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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
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$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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The scenarios are not really fantasy. It could touch $150k by November this year.
This would be a minimum touch that if $180k is reached by this year

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 That's beautiful!  Thank you.

 Perhaps my idea was too subtle but for my version, I purposely used the right angle triangle and intentionally placed "something.to.do" on the hypotenuse (the longest side) because philipma1957 really seems to like keeping himself busy.


it is not a problem that you have intentionally placed "something.to.do" on the diagonal (the longest side) but I could understand it naturally that you are indicating the busy time of philipma1957.

However, whether the triangle is complete or not is not a problem because we know that the sum of the three angles of the triangle is 180 degrees. No matter what we do the state inside the triangle is indicated by 180 degrees so there is no problem with these. However, the pattern that you have highlighted is really worthy of praise.


yeah i am busy. at 68 i do more work then most.

i like working with my hands.


i will drive to my partners shed and grab 18 bags to prep.

prepping the wires is fun. i put on 60s and 70s music and knock them out.

actually if i didnt have so much other work to do I would not mind doing this three times a week for a year or so.


we do not have enough wire  to do 3x52=156 trips

it would be 91,200 dollars for three days a week  say 21 hours each week.


frankly when i went into the four man partnership with the mine in 2018 i had no idea how much work i would need to do.

then my bro-in-law got dementia in summer of 2021. he is a ton of work.

easliy 20 to 30 hours a week.

so yeah i am busy really busy.


oh blog here

and blog on mac rumors

and blog on altcoinstalks


it is a busy time for me.



You are working so stably even at such a time, it is a source of inspiration for others or for us.

If I can do 80 percent of your work properly with the amount of work you are still doing, I will go a long way.

Although being in a job sector requires a lot of work, I am really surprised to hear about your hard work.

Keep the busy time and you will see that it will be good until the end of your time.
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Today is the day that I've been saying would be the top for Bitcoin for quite some time.  I've actually been eyeballing today for basically the last 4 years.  Now that it is here I don't want to sell any Bitcoin, but I may sell a tiny bit just to stick to the plan...  There's a ton of bullish news out there and with December looking like it will be the MSTR inclusion period, I have mentally begun making excuses that my sell date should be moved to December 16th.  We will see how that plays out for me, but I've definitely started watching the exits.  

you thinking that such a prediction could be accurate amazes me actually...

What’s amazing to me is that this will be the fourth time it’s happened.

Don’t listen to me though. Watch this instead.

https://youtu.be/eCXaCSVhivI?si=M62NPB5I8NIX6tIt

We are in bubble territory already and “the Titanic has hit the iceberg.”

I think we go higher, but looking back there will be a lot of people who wish they had started taking profits here instead of trying to time the top, which we will definitely hit in the next 100 days if we haven’t already.


Thanks for the video. Watched it in full.

I think that guy has a lot of valid points but it doesn't seem that he gets the difference between crypto and Bitcoin. He also sees Bitcoin as a risk asset and gold as the safe haven.

The talk about a new form of world trade currency that is on "a Blockchain" sounds to me that that will likely be Bitcoin.

If all what he says happens, Bitcoin is likely to come out as the new world trade currency / reserve currency, which means we will be in the millions per coin.

Selling BTC at a cycle top bigly is really nice but that's only half of the gamble. if you don't get back onto the train again at the right time, you can easily lose the (generational) opportunity of your lifetime.

I think none of his arguments destroy the value proposition of Bitcoin.
If you successfully trade the cycles, great! But that's not a safe strategy for everyone. I think that would be hodling...

 



World Reserve Currency will be the currency, that underpins AI to AI transactions!

It takes great strength and conviction, to see the cycle before us, let alone a cycle at all!

I personally believe we are on the last leg of this cycle and as stated before, I will be transferring some wealth in return for hard/illiquid assets, obviously fiat first...

Guarantee you one thing, the next 3 months, will be a wild ride!



In that case it probably would have to be a POW coin. There is only one that makes sense.


Since you are already giving guarantees what is your investment advise?


If you mean how to handle this cycle?... Don't try to time to top, set a plan and stick with it!... If you are selling and planning to buy back lower, DON'T!

Besides, everyone's circumstances are different, however, the last and most important advice i can give is, think and plan 2/5/10/20 years ahead!...
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#haiku

Nice poetry to display your points of view, recently watching lots of poetry for bitcoin. Emikoyumi I like your writings. Haha should I join?


My target was BTC will touch the 100-102k area, but it seems like they go down 107k and bounced back , now sideaways are going on. It's feeling rn that it's the quite environment before the real storms coming. We can see a new big ATH for btc. It's beeen 18 days since BTC recover from 107k level and doing it's sideaways from 112k - 116k . Let's see what's the storm is waiting for . I bull or bear
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Today is the day that I've been saying would be the top for Bitcoin for quite some time.  I've actually been eyeballing today for basically the last 4 years.  Now that it is here I don't want to sell any Bitcoin, but I may sell a tiny bit just to stick to the plan...  There's a ton of bullish news out there and with December looking like it will be the MSTR inclusion period, I have mentally begun making excuses that my sell date should be moved to December 16th.  We will see how that plays out for me, but I've definitely started watching the exits.  
you thinking that such a prediction could be accurate amazes me actually...
What’s amazing to me is that this will be the fourth time it’s happened.
Don’t listen to me though. Watch this instead.

https://youtu.be/eCXaCSVhivI?si=M62NPB5I8NIX6tIt
We are in bubble territory already and “the Titanic has hit the iceberg.”

I think we go higher, but looking back there will be a lot of people who wish they had started taking profits here instead of trying to time the top, which we will definitely hit in the next 100 days if we haven’t already.
Thanks for the video. Watched it in full.
I think that guy has a lot of valid points but it doesn't seem that he gets the difference between crypto and Bitcoin. He also sees Bitcoin as a risk asset and gold as the safe haven.

The talk about a new form of world trade currency that is on "a Blockchain" sounds to me that that will likely be Bitcoin.
If all what he says happens, Bitcoin is likely to come out as the new world trade currency / reserve currency, which means we will be in the millions per coin.

Selling BTC at a cycle top bigly is really nice but that's only half of the gamble. if you don't get back onto the train again at the right time, you can easily lose the (generational) opportunity of your lifetime.
I think none of his arguments destroy the value proposition of Bitcoin.
If you successfully trade the cycles, great! But that's not a safe strategy for everyone. I think that would be hodling...

Great review Gachapin.  I had heard that interview around 12 hours before OgNasty had posted it, yet I did not listen to it in a mind of commenting on it, and you capture a lot of the ideas well and within a framework to show why the guy is not a nutjob and he is even quite smart, yet at the same time, he is likely too smart for his own good and also too smart for folks who ONLY hear part of his message and decide to sell their bitcoin too soon and/or to fail/refuse to stock up on enough of the cornz.

So part of the actionary problems relate to failing to build up a sufficiently large enough stash, even if one might be a HODLer, and sure, for many of us, HODLing tends to be enough since we have stacked up on dee cornz years ago or at least we had been adequately/sufficiently stacking through the years.  many folks may well hold some cornz, but they don't have nearly enough to account for what bitcoin is, even though surely being a low coiner is better than being a no coiner, but still one of the better actions for folks is to spend their earliest of years ongoingly stacking coin, even if they might sometimes consider the price to be high, because they largely don't have enough and HODLing is not going to be as good for them as ongoing accumulation through buying would be.

Also, as you said, Bitcoin is different. Shitcoins are bought to be sold (for BTC?) later, while one might keep most of his Bitcoin if he/she doesn't need the money, to avoid the mistakes you mentioned.
People sell Shitcoin only when it gets a push from it. This is not the situation from Bitcoin in contrast. I always keep 50% of my income for Bitcoin.
Shitcoins are pure gambling and if you are not smart enough, your investment could be gone.
You might be going to take profit after a little push and boom!...you see rug pull.

Only if you have master the art...few times profits might amaze you but no guarantee of you earning continually from Shitcoins.
Putting your money in other investments can be profitable with little guarantee if you can hold but not shitcoins. Thank again!

Thanks for highlighting that point.

There surely may well be an intention to put money in shitcoins in order to buy more bitcoin, just like there is an intention of the roulette wheel player to win when he places his various bets and to have more dollars after placing such bets.. . yet it is likely that the house in shitcoins is taking more than the roulette table house is taking... so your odds are likely better with putting money on a roulette table than it is with a shitcoin.

A long long time without posting here in the wall oberserver which this months is really a obersving wall, nothing is happening at all we are at a super calm for what? 2/3 months?

I was not expecting this sudden stop on out rally. Come on guys put the engines of pump to work again, i want to see BTC on 200 k before the year ends, and at this pace is gonna be impossible.

I have been seeing a lot of whiners in bitcoinlandia in recent times.

This pump is not enough..

OMG.

Bitcoin is not guaranteed to go up, and surely there is no reason to be unhappy no matter which way this pig is taking us (reference to billyjoelallen).

We are up just shy of 2x from October 2024, and we are up nearly 7.5x from our November 2022 lows.

I am having trouble seeing why "this" is not enough?

Another thing is that there is likely quite a bit of value in having our UPpity grind up slowly rather than going up violently, even though surely the traders love the violent tops, especially if they can catch them.. but investors should appreciate a more gradual UPward grind, which seems to be our current status.. at least so far.

By the way, to a certain extent, "I was not expecting" tends to be healthy state of affairs in bitcoinlandia, yet directionally in the bitcoin price, we seem to be getting as much, if not more, than any of us could expect to play out, yet some of us still want to proclaim that "we" wanted "more" than what we have already been getting? 

I just glanced at your forum registration date, Volgastallion. 

I cannot imagine very many situations in which normal guys would have had been able to frontload enough of their bitcoin investment within 2.5-ish years (if we go by your forum registration date), yet I can see some guys stacking and then stopping in their stacking because they are planning to sell (and trade) even though they probably would be better off to either just keep stacking or to let their investment play out for a cycle or two.

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World Reserve Currency will be the currency, that underpins AI to AI transactions!
It takes great strength and conviction, to see the cycle before us, let alone a cycle at all!

I personally believe we are on the last leg of this cycle and as stated before, I will be transferring some wealth in return for hard/illiquid assets, obviously fiat first...
Guarantee you one thing, the next 3 months, will be a wild ride!

You are trading too?

Everyone is a trader?

Some of us might not realize that bitcoin is the last trade.... meaning that once we are in it, then we should not have to trade it.

Sure, shave off some profits here and there along the way.. .. but yeah, guys can do what they are going to do.. and I am not opposed to diversification.. so maybe there is some hope in your use of the term "some"
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World Reserve Currency will be the currency, that underpins AI to AI transactions!
It takes great strength and conviction, to see the cycle before us, let alone a cycle at all!

I personally believe we are on the last leg of this cycle and as stated before, I will be transferring some wealth in return for hard/illiquid assets, obviously fiat first...
Guarantee you one thing, the next 3 months, will be a wild ride!

You are trading too?

Everyone is a trader?

Some of us might not realize that bitcoin is the last trade.... meaning that once we are in it, then we should not have to trade it.

Sure, shave off some profits here and there along the way.. .. but yeah, guys can do what they are going to do.. and I am not opposed to diversification.. so maybe there is some hope in your use of the term "some"

No definitely not a trader!... you know that!.. this has been in the planning for few years now! already have the OTC contact on speed dial!

I was suppose to hang up the boots and call it a day during this cycle, but work has been really good lately... Been able to work more from home, has been less stressful.

some, for me some means "not a significant amount, but not an insignificant amount either"


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"Crabs walk sideways due to their unique anatomy, which features a flattened body and legs positioned on the sides, making lateral movement more efficient. This sideways gait also helps them navigate through their natural habitats, like crevices and rocky terrain.
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"Never thought about walking next to a crab in that way but you have really presented a wonderful scene or event! In fact, crabs have been created this way since the beginning of time.
Nature has designed crabs in such a way that it is easiest and safest for them to walk like this with their flat bodies and legs on their sides. They can use the legs they have to walk on to protect themselves from danger.

it's surprising to think how effective this unique walking posture of crabs is in surviving in harmony with the cracks and waves of the rocky seashore.
Truly, every detail created by nature is perfectly crafted, which is simply fascinating to see.""
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Looks like the sell-the-news-boys are dumping into the buying volume of the buy-the-news-boys.
Fun to watch.
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Don’t listen to me though. Watch this instead.

https://youtu.be/eCXaCSVhivI?si=M62NPB5I8NIX6tIt

We are in bubble territory already and “the Titanic has hit the iceberg.”

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I believe the relevant quote here is, don’t shoot the messenger.

Take a look at these two charts and tell me we aren’t about to see a repeat of 2008. Inflation has held the housing market up so far, and it seems obvious the fix for this is more inflation. That might save the housing market from massive losses, but it is going to destroy the consumer. Everything is going to be on sale in a year, including Bitcoin.




since you are quite a prediction guy, what do you think is the top this time, and also the bottom when the great crash comes...
honestly interested!
I mean you have some soma numbers in your head right?
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Looks like the sell-the-news-boys are dumping into the buying volume of the buy-the-news-boys.
Fun to watch.

The market needed a surprise on interest rates. 50bps was needed to keep the market afloat. Volatility incoming…

I’m not sure how we get to new highs from here, but if Bitcoin doesn’t find a way in the next 2 months then MSTR doesn’t get into the S&P500 and this cycle top is in. It’s finger crossing time.


since you are quite a prediction guy, what do you think is the top this time, and also the bottom when the great crash comes...
honestly interested!
I mean you have some soma numbers in your head right?

I cannot predict how irrational the market will become. I can only tell you that Treasury companies are whales selling their coins at a premium to suckers while saying Bitcoin is going to a million…
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Looks like the sell-the-news-boys are dumping into the buying volume of the buy-the-news-boys.
Fun to watch.

The market needed a surprise on interest rates. 50bps was needed to keep the market afloat. Volatility incoming…

I’m not sure how we get to new highs from here, but if Bitcoin doesn’t find a way in the next 2 months then MSTR doesn’t get into the S&P500 and this cycle top is in. It’s finger crossing time.

That sounds a little too bearish to me right now.
I expect more like a down-before-up situation, because many loaded their (dump-) guns around $111k. When their power is absorbed by the buyers, the upity could resume in a stronger way.
When we dip, then into areas slightly above this range, imo, which would be still for ants.
Just scale down (/10), then the $5k dump would be like a $500 dump in $11k territories.
We have seen better dumps than such  Wink
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"Crabs walk sideways due to their unique anatomy, which features a flattened body and legs positioned on the sides, making lateral movement more efficient. This sideways gait also helps them navigate through their natural habitats, like crevices and rocky terrain.
 animal-club.co.uk''''



"Never thought about walking next to a crab in that way but you have really presented a wonderful scene or event! In fact, crabs have been created this way since the beginning of time.
Nature has designed crabs in such a way that it is easiest and safest for them to walk like this with their flat bodies and legs on their sides. They can use the legs they have to walk on to protect themselves from danger.

it's surprising to think how effective this unique walking posture of crabs is in surviving in harmony with the cracks and waves of the rocky seashore.
Truly, every detail created by nature is perfectly crafted, which is simply fascinating to see.""

"Huge hawks and wild bald eagles are among some of the birds that make a meal of crabs. They pick up crabs and take them upwards, throwing them on a hard surface like a stone in order to break the crab's shell and get to the meat. Crabs have a soft shell, making them easy prey for many of their enemies.
When they're under the sea,
Sharks are natural enemies of the crab, relying on it as their only source of food.
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Don’t listen to me though. Watch this instead.

https://youtu.be/eCXaCSVhivI?si=M62NPB5I8NIX6tIt

We are in bubble territory already and “the Titanic has hit the iceberg.”

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I believe the relevant quote here is, don’t shoot the messenger.

Take a look at these two charts and tell me we aren’t about to see a repeat of 2008. Inflation has held the housing market up so far, and it seems obvious the fix for this is more inflation. That might save the housing market from massive losses, but it is going to destroy the consumer. Everything is going to be on sale in a year, including Bitcoin.




Dey gonna print grandpa's barn condo a third heloc to keep em in golf cart tires and golden corral rather than let prices fall in ongoingly real terms.

After dip printing (if), a considerable sum leaks into the ultimately scarce revolutionary cybercoin
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