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April 17, 2015, 10:42:14 AM |
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darlidada
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April 17, 2015, 11:03:06 AM |
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why is hitbtc back on coinmarketcap?
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mickyd
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April 17, 2015, 11:05:56 AM |
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why is hitbtc back on coinmarketcap?
who is talking about hitbtc?   |
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darlidada
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April 18, 2015, 09:13:51 AM |
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why is hitbtc back on coinmarketcap?
who is talking about hitbtc? i am. its a scam site. there was several threads mentioning it linked in the last page. i guess coinmarketcap took a bribe and added them again. wont be the first time tho, BCN is a premine scam and has no star anymore too. coinmarketcap should be careful : encouraging noob scamming is the best way to lose its relevance and disappear in the history of bitcoin scam sites |
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mickyd
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April 18, 2015, 07:20:21 PM |
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why is hitbtc back on coinmarketcap?
who is talking about hitbtc? i am. its a scam site. there was several threads mentioning it linked in the last page. i guess coinmarketcap took a bribe and added them again. wont be the first time tho, BCN is a premine scam and has no star anymore too. coinmarketcap should be careful : encouraging noob scamming is the best way to lose its relevance and disappear in the history of bitcoin scam sites why hitbtc is scamsite? links? |
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maki
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April 18, 2015, 08:21:03 PM |
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I collect and trade rare and lost cryptocurrencies and blockchains.
Prefer fair launch/no premine, pre-2014 coins.
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darlidada
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April 19, 2015, 11:10:08 AM |
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@mickyd: here's why hitbtc is a scam: |
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luckybreak
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April 20, 2015, 09:13:13 PM |
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Starin
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April 21, 2015, 01:17:14 AM |
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fluffypony
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April 22, 2015, 10:26:20 AM |
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Thanks for the links, removed it from the listing for now. Updated  Gliss, your removal of HitBTC lasted like a week before you added them back. You have a mountain of evidence that nobody in this thread has contradicted. How much are they paying you to keep them there? No wonder your site is getting slammed on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33fubn/ripple_freezes_1m_in_user_funds_time_to_remove_it/Time to move to CoinGecko, at least they don't actively support scammers. |
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April 22, 2015, 12:08:53 PM |
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We reached out to them and they said they had resolved most of those issues. If you find any more recent evidence of scamming, please let me know. |
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fluffypony
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April 22, 2015, 02:14:06 PM |
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We reached out to them and they said they had resolved most of those issues. If you find any more recent evidence of scamming, please let me know.
Current as of January, 2015: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=857344.0Current as of March 20, 2015 (a month ago): https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=984188.0Current as of January 31, 2015: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=935305.0Current as of January, 2015: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=911841.0Current as of March 13, 2015: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2yx2z1/scammed_on_hitbtc/Current as of February 15, 2015: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vzhvj/hitbtc_exchange_no_withdrawal_possible_funds_not/Current as of January 29, 2015: http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/2u29a3/hitbtc_anyone_using_it_request_for_review/Current as of January, 2015: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=911995.0Negative trust from January not removed, additional negative trust added on March 12, 2015: https://asktom.cf/index.php?action=trust;u=194708There is ample, recent evidence that the volumes are inflated and outrightly false. They're flagged as scammers on this forum. I find it utterly absurd that you thought you'd reach out to them and they'd say anything besides insisting that there was no problem. How did you imagine that conversation going down? Reductio ad absurdum: "Oh haaaai scammers, we herd u mite b scammin?" "O NO U CAUGHT US SORRY GUIZE" |
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April 22, 2015, 04:09:58 PM |
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Why is Ripple still being listed? It has nothing to do with decentralized cryptocurrencies. It has frozen $1 million in user funds, its CEO is in bed with the establishment, and he has publicly bashed Bitcoin every chance he got.
Is Ripple paying to be listed in coinmarketcap?
And Stellar is basically the same thing. One good day they even decided to shut down the entire network (proving it wasn't decentralized at all) to fix a bug.
These scamcoins are hurting the ecosystem. You should be ashamed of listing them.
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April 22, 2015, 04:40:48 PM |
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The "evidence" against HitBTC is absurd. User confirms in the thread that the problem is solved. This is the same user with two threads. User mentions he withdrawn his funds with Bitcoin, not fiat. Looks like fiat problems, not scam. Read the thread. User mentions that actually he wasn't scammed. Comments at the end of the thread cover the comment by HitBTC in media and also mentions from users that everything has been resolved. It's a question, not a report on scamming. |
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fluffypony
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April 22, 2015, 04:53:38 PM |
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Hello newly registered HitBTC shill, and welcome to Bitcointalk! The evidence presented is a general mounting body thereof. The main issue with the exchange you're shilling for is that the trade volume is clearly false, and users have demonstrated that orders around theirs get sold or bought by the fake volume bot, and yet their orders don't get met. Given that CoinMarketCap relies heavily on data not being manipulated, and HitBTC's volume is so paltry, I can't see a reason not to remove them. Once they've built up an honourable reputation they can be readded. |
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April 22, 2015, 05:04:02 PM
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Hello newly registered HitBTC shill, and welcome to Bitcointalk! The evidence presented is a general mounting body thereof. The main issue with the exchange you're shilling for is that the trade volume is clearly false, and users have demonstrated that orders around theirs get sold or bought by the fake volume bot, and yet their orders don't get met. Given that CoinMarketCap relies heavily on data not being manipulated, and HitBTC's volume is so paltry, I can't see a reason not to remove them. Once they've built up an honourable reputation they can be readded. Just like to point out, that HitBTC is also the only real exchange for Bytecoin, which happens to be Fluffypony's main competition in his role as Monero lead dev (with Monero being a Bytecoin clone). So delisting HitBTC will "memory-hole" Bytecoin's market cap for the benefit of Monero market cap presumably, and this coming from Fluffy on the same day that Bytecoin overtakes Monero on CoinMarketCap, and the same time the other Monero core dev Smooth is very active on the Bytecoin thread accusing it of being an ' abject fraud' I don't know if this is true, and I don't hold any Bytecoin or Monero or use HitBTC, but one has to question the ethics and timing here.  (earlier today Bytecoin was higher but here are the 2 now)  |
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fluffypony
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April 22, 2015, 05:44:59 PM |
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Just like to point out, that HitBTC is also the only real exchange for Bytecoin, which happens to be Fluffypony's main competition in his role as Monero lead dev (with Monero being a Bytecoin clone). So delisting HitBTC will "memory-hole" Bytecoin's market cap for the benefit of Monero market cap presumably, and this coming from Fluffy on the same day that Bytecoin overtakes Monero on CoinMarketCap, and the same time the other Monero core dev Smooth is very active on the Bytecoin thread accusing it of being an ' abject fraud' I don't know if this is true, and I don't hold any Bytecoin or Monero or use HitBTC, but one has to question the ethics and timing here. The original and comprehensive complaint wasn't from me: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=199685.msg11032474#msg11032474As I mentioned in the Monero thread, if it incorrectly skews Monero's trade volume, it is doubly important to me that it is removed. Additionally, as Bytecoin is traded on two other exchanges, the removal of HitBTC will have no effect on its valuation and market capitalisation, it will *only* affect its trade volume (and will show reality instead of a false, inflated value). |
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April 22, 2015, 05:55:45 PM |
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Hi Gliss, Seeing as 13 of the top 20 assets are on the Nxt platform, can we have an option to dsiplay the prices on the asset page in NXT? > http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/I have an idea of what the asset prices are in my head in NXT but I have to convert from BTC (finding the current rate) to see if the prices have change much. It is very cumbersome and not very useful. Thanks  Bump |
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