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Author Topic: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)  (Read 531171 times)
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October 20, 2014, 01:44:30 AM
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This is fucked up. From an assured Oct 15th testnet, to a week delay, to a 2-3 month delay. There's really nothing I can say, very weird way of acting.

When the darkcoin dev made a few mistakes along the way, I always felt assured that he would pull through with results, since he had his real name and face out there since day 1 (and had been delivering actual results) . With gnosis it feels like he can just walk away from all this stuff if he decides to and no one can hold him accountable for it. If he feels the task is too big after all, all he needs to do is stop posting.




I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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October 20, 2014, 01:45:56 AM
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Massive dump, massive money lost for investors.

We believe in a project, we hold through the good.... we get eaten alive by devs empty promises.

For shame.
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October 20, 2014, 01:49:53 AM
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Just some quote from gnosis account to put things into perspective:

his first post on btct in 2013:

Perhaps anoncoin can fulfill a market niche, but everyone is watching the zerocash developers, it's likely they will be in the spotllight while anoncoin at best remains in the shadows
Hello all, I am Gnosis, the new member of the Anoncoin team; I will be implementing Zerocoin in Anoncoin.  Since an interested party has chosen to support this development financially, I will be able spend a lot more of my time on this.  Expect a release for testing Zerocoin sometime in March!

a few weeks ago:

I realized that I have made deadlines in the past that were not met. I put a lot of thought into the above deadlines and I know that they can be met. Just as a reminder, I'm working full-time on Zerocoin until at least October 1, and possibly after depending on funding.

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October 20, 2014, 01:51:24 AM
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Massive dump, massive money lost for investors.


Really? Nothing lost until you sell for a lower price than you bought for...
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October 20, 2014, 01:52:54 AM
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Massive dump, massive money lost for investors.


Really? Nothing lost until you sell for a lower price than you bought for...

It's called unrealized loss. Really;)

Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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October 20, 2014, 01:53:32 AM
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There will be a data dump in nov. One of the biggest yet. It details efforts to discredit the anonymous movement. Anoncoin is mentioned thousands of times in the small sections that have been reviewed so far. Can post a few gb early if you like.
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October 20, 2014, 01:54:26 AM
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This is fucked up. From an assured Oct 15th testnet, to a week delay, to a 2-3 month delay. There's really nothing I can say, very weird way of acting.

When the darkcoin dev made a few mistakes along the way, I always felt assured that he would pull through with results, since he had his real name and face out there since day 1 (and had been delivering actual results) . With gnosis it feels like he can just walk away from all this stuff if he decides to and no one can hold him accountable for it. If he feels the task is too big after all, all he needs to do is stop posting.

These "delays" are going on for around a year already.

Do not send any donations. As long as they receive donations they will pretend an activity "2 weeks" (TM). If gnosis was ever serious he would finish the coin long time ago and could become rich instantly from its repricing. But he is focused on cashing the donations only. Why is that?
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October 20, 2014, 02:00:53 AM
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Massive dump, massive money lost for investors.


Really? Nothing lost until you sell for a lower price than you bought for...

It's called unrealized loss. Really;)

IMO the only mistake gnos1s did was to offer those silly time-frames... He has no responsibilities towards us, we are not employing him, he is not working for our start up -- we never signed any contracts. Our investing is highly risky and its silly from some people to talk in a way as if they were gnos1s boss or something, get real. The guy wants to implement zerocoin that's all. If you want a secure, slow investment way then buy bonds and mutual funds.
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October 20, 2014, 02:07:51 AM
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IMO the only mistake gnos1s did was to offer those silly time-frames... He has no responsibilities towards us, we are not employing him, he is not working for our start up -- we never signed any contracts. Our investing is highly risky and its silly from some people to talk in a way as if they were gnos1s boss or something, get real. The guy wants to implement zerocoin that's all. If you want a secure, slow investment way then buy bonds and mutual funds.

He is a liar or very very stupid.
If he confuses a few days with 2-3 months, he will never to implement zerocoin.

That's 5 days left until Zerocoin on testnet. Some 22-23 days until it's on mainnet.
Getting very close!  Cool
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October 20, 2014, 02:11:49 AM
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Serious question : Gnosis are you still like figuring out how this shit works or something? Are you lost in the advanced cryptography and mathematics? Do you know exactly how zerocoin is supposed to work and what it takes to make it work and how to code that? Are you learning on the spot? Something is clearly wrong.


If you do intend on doing this, don't give fixed deadlines, give lots of updates and explain those updates so it doesn't just feel like you're saying words. If you said ok done with "x", say what X does. For fucks sake.

I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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October 20, 2014, 02:14:51 AM
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Strange. Check out all the ZC notices on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/AnonCoinProject

What does this mean?

"We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us." - E.M. Forster
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October 20, 2014, 02:15:48 AM
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Why are you committing so much now?

https://twitter.com/AnoncoinProject/with_replies


A guy with 21 BTC just moved down his bid to 0.0007 from 0.00086, smart move.



Last thing I post for now, if you're for real Gnosis and you really can get the job done, I can sympathize with the pressure from the community for updates. If you're not for real and just hoping you can pull it off well then of course die in a fire.

I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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October 20, 2014, 02:16:22 AM
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This is fucked up. From an assured Oct 15th testnet, to a week delay, to a 2-3 month delay. There's really nothing I can say, very weird way of acting.

When the darkcoin dev made a few mistakes along the way, I always felt assured that he would pull through with results, since he had his real name and face out there since day 1 (and had been delivering actual results) . With gnosis it feels like he can just walk away from all this stuff if he decides to and no one can hold him accountable for it. If he feels the task is too big after all, all he needs to do is stop posting.


+1 for Darkcoin dev - he has done it the right way and delivered successfully.

Invest in the dev!
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October 20, 2014, 02:17:07 AM
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Strange. Check out all the ZC notices on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/AnonCoinProject

What does this mean?

Means maybe Gnosis feels bad about having to delay it and does feel bad about investors losing huge amounts of money so he wants to do anything he can to salvage it, aka show that he really is working on it and not just bluffing. Maybe he's human after all.

I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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October 20, 2014, 02:17:13 AM
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Wow, terrible update.

A coin is like a business.

This is not how you might run a successful business.


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October 20, 2014, 02:17:55 AM
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Strange. Check out all the ZC notices on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/AnonCoinProject

What does this mean?

Nothing. He just pulled his private work to the public repository. Now, he will probably ask for help or more donations Grin
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October 20, 2014, 02:19:26 AM
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Wow, terrible update.

A coin is like a business.

This is not how you might run a successful business.



I think a coin is more like a contestant on American Idol. Sometimes you see something amazing and they inspire you, and sometimes you watch them melt down and fall apart. Then we vote.

"We must be willing to let go of the life we have planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us." - E.M. Forster
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October 20, 2014, 02:22:10 AM
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He was asked in IRC to update the public repository and did.
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October 20, 2014, 02:27:03 AM
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Wow, terrible update.

A coin is like a business.

This is not how you might run a successful business.



Sure, we are shareholders of Anoncoin Inc. and gnos1s is the CEO who lifts a lavish salary out of our pockets and doesn't deliver on his promises and his legal responsibilities towards us... Let's get real for a moment...
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October 20, 2014, 02:31:25 AM
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Wow, terrible update.

A coin is like a business.

This is not how you might run a successful business.

Sure, we are shareholders of Anoncoin Inc. and gnos1s is the CEO who lifts a lavish salary out of our pockets and doesn't deliver on his promises... Let's get real for a moment...

Fortunately, he is not the CEO of a company because with this kind of bullshit, his company would go to bankruptcy very quickly.
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