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Author Topic: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - www.middlecoin.com  (Read 829960 times)
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February 02, 2014, 03:29:19 PM
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guys i can say that amsterdam server is better than others.

last time it was %7 rejected on useast server.

it was %5 at eu server

and its %1,5-2 on amsterdam servers.

actually my earnings really lowered this days.

it is about servers? or same for everyone?

i mean a miner on us server with same spec. can earn more than amsterdam server?
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February 02, 2014, 03:40:20 PM
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55 minuts

Reject rate lowering

5.9% now

142336 Accepted
9000 rejected
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February 02, 2014, 03:41:16 PM
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guys i can say that amsterdam server is better than others.

last time it was %7 rejected on useast server.

it was %5 at eu server

and its %1,5-2 on amsterdam servers.

actually my earnings really lowered this days.

it is about servers? or same for everyone?

i mean a miner on us server with same spec. can earn more than amsterdam server?

A lot of the reject differences between servers depend on two things: your distance/ping between you and those servers (not necessarily geographical) and the specific coins each server is mining at the time.  

Someone from the USA east coast will have different numbers across servers than someone from Australia, Singapore, Russia, or Italy... You should ping each server to see which one has the lowest ping.

All things being equal, that's all you would need to choose your failover strategy, but unfortunately, h2o is still tweaking the coin balance and software among the different beta servers so it is not equal at the moment.  It will be once he's done. So for now, your mileage may vary.

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February 02, 2014, 03:41:27 PM
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You may find they are mining different pools, so today maybe worse than US server but tomorrow might be better, and it probably isn't what h2o want in the first place, having everyone rushing to 1 pool that had most payout yesterday and cause more issues. The solution is to standardize the payout since multiple servers can't mine the same coin due to the large hashrate middlecoin has, this really should be a priority rather than adding new servers with different payouts.

I can't agree more with this right now; I don't like all of this "one middlecoin server is better for payout at the moment over the other".

This will not be good long term; here's to hoping H20 will be standardizing payouts.
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February 02, 2014, 03:43:00 PM
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Uh oh, sounds like h2o is stealing peoples monies again.  That crazy crazy pool op...

Cheesy
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February 02, 2014, 03:47:21 PM
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lowering to 5.1% minute by minute % percetage

Edot

and  more 4.7%

again

4.5%
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February 02, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
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the rejects are getting quite high  on useast, but then again useast is unstable ... regular middlecoin is also getting high rejects

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February 02, 2014, 03:59:39 PM
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Uh oh, sounds like h2o is stealing peoples monies again.  That crazy crazy pool op...

Cheesy

LOL!!!  Glad I have a life outside of watching Middlecoin stats every 5 seconds, aren't you?




P.S.  People, they're not "rejects," that's h2o's secret program reaching in and snatching your coins . . . MUUUAAAAAHHHHAAAAHHHAAAHHHAAA.


Oh and . . . SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!!
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February 02, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
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noticed something on cgminer , it will submit a stale but then it will get immediately get rejected , is middle coin not accepting stales anymore?

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February 02, 2014, 04:15:36 PM
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they're not "rejects," that's h2o's secret program reaching in and snatching your coins . . . MUUUAAAAAHHHHAAAAHHHAAAHHHAAA.


Oh and . . . SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!!


hahahahahahah

+1

what a strange movie that was...
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February 02, 2014, 04:20:10 PM
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Today isn't going so well,
Current balance:  0.01050614
Unexchanged balance:  0.00651058
Immature balance:  0.00295424
with a 2.3 MH/s rig and very low rejects (<1%, the last client in the table below).

I don't know where people are getting a lot of unexchanged from because I ain't getting none!

Take this from the page, 6 clients with the same Accepted MH/s, two of which doesn't have any rejects at all (the last one in the table is mine).  
These two without rejects have about the same immature as the other but are lacking seriously (-0.025 btc ish) in unexchanged but on the other hand they have a balance of ~0.005 btc more..  
So in theory they're -0.02 btc behind others with the same rate as themselves, which is a lot with a rig that does about 0.03 btc per day normally.
I you look at the middlecoin page you can see the pattern repeat, why are some less favored than others? Why such a difference between servers?

AddressAccepted MH/sRejected MH/sImmatureUnexchangedBalance
1QHxYW2ngFPvsqZXxG8c72gRAtpF3bTzje2.591100.004367100.009029490.01055366
1AtG5gvumRdHCEwAa24B13zQAECQPvSWCs   2.59110.18640.003908640.029061610.00489334
1QKFfMkMoMiUifk2NMBgTuL3EjMtFjFPwu2.59110.27960.002892570.030443900.00526744
1CBdJeLB17mNcVpWA2SKJxECjdvqFt5uMA2.59110.11180.003110960.022304960.00442423
1HQC8TmkC2VkZAc1SMqXkdRJWKZHh1ztzU2.59110.13050.003939860.030394960.00660055
1JTgncSrWiQtEAdtYhtytCEqND8wVb3b5R2.591100.003321270.006160170.01086730

Edit: I run on amsterdam with failover to eu, useast, uswest, asia.      

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February 02, 2014, 04:24:07 PM
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@websson

thanks for the stats site. It is the only one that shows me balance in my currency.
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February 02, 2014, 04:24:20 PM
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Can't win them all...ugly payout today, hardly any unexchanged.
Yup, whereas renting you could make between 0.016 and 0.017 BTC/MH/day for the same time period (However, the day before, mining on this pool would have been more profitable)

Profitability of most coins has dropped off in the past 2-3 days, so it's more the market that's the issue, not how this pool is handling trading/mining.

I don't blame h2o for waiting to exchange a fair amount of what we mined :]

that's lies... blood is thicker than water... GETUS US TEH BETERER RETURNS ON MINNING h2O or we all go waffle...lotto is 40 bucks a day cheater!

You're clearly too emotive to play this game, you should quit.

well said.

in the end, you can vote your disapproval by pointing your workers somewhere else.
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February 02, 2014, 04:25:14 PM
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Today isn't going so well,
Current balance:  0.01050614
Unexchanged balance:  0.00651058
Immature balance:  0.00295424
with a 2.3 MH/s rig and very low rejects (<1%, the last client in the table below).

I don't know where people are getting a lot of unexchanged from because I ain't getting none!

Take this from the page, 6 clients with the same Accepted MH/s, two of which doesn't have any rejects at all (the last one in the table is mine).  
These two without rejects have about the same immature as the other but are lacking seriously (-0.025 btc ish) in unexchanged but on the other hand they have a balance of ~0.005 btc more..  
So in theory they're -0.02 btc behind others with the same rate as themselves, which is a lot with a rig that does about 0.03 btc per day normally.
I you look at the middlecoin page you can see the pattern repeat, why are some less favored than others? Why such a difference between servers?

AddressAccepted MH/sRejected MH/sImmatureUnexchangedBalance
1QHxYW2ngFPvsqZXxG8c72gRAtpF3bTzje2.591100.004367100.009029490.01055366
1AtG5gvumRdHCEwAa24B13zQAECQPvSWCs   2.59110.18640.003908640.029061610.00489334
1QKFfMkMoMiUifk2NMBgTuL3EjMtFjFPwu2.59110.27960.002892570.030443900.00526744
1CBdJeLB17mNcVpWA2SKJxECjdvqFt5uMA2.59110.11180.003110960.022304960.00442423
1HQC8TmkC2VkZAc1SMqXkdRJWKZHh1ztzU2.59110.13050.003939860.030394960.00660055
1JTgncSrWiQtEAdtYhtytCEqND8wVb3b5R2.591100.003321270.006160170.01086730

Edit: I run on amsterdam with failover to eu, useast, uswest, asia.      


Im on useast.
for today with 2.9 MH iam at
balance: 0.0065 (freakin low)
unexchanged: 0.0344 (high, just like 2 days ago, good payout after they got exchanged)

Yesterday i had also a bad payout 0,022 (wth something like 0.02 unechanged)

For me the unexchanged is rising:

http://www.middlecoin.com/reports/1Kj7m2uoUJ73pE5JDxPxKEgNc1G6x7Swkr.html
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February 02, 2014, 04:32:15 PM
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I you look at the middlecoin page you can see the pattern repeat, why are some less favored than others? Why such a difference between servers?
because the hash rate fluctuates.  you, and everyone else moves up and down the list throughout the day.  some people have more hash rate than others, and you're just looking at a snapshot of an instant when you happen to be next to each other.

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February 02, 2014, 04:37:29 PM
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Im on useast.
for today with 2.9 MH iam at
balance: 0.0065 (freakin low)
unexchanged: 0.0344 (high, just like 2 days ago, good payout after they got exchanged)

Yesterday i had also a bad payout 0,022 (wth something like 0.02 unechanged)

For me the unexchanged is rising:

http://www.middlecoin.com/reports/1Kj7m2uoUJ73pE5JDxPxKEgNc1G6x7Swkr.html

Hmm, I'm switching my miner over to useast for a couple of hours to look for improvements.

@websson

thanks for the stats site. It is the only one that shows me balance in my currency.

Thanks Smiley I'm working on some changes that will be released in a couple of hours probably (3 hour average and some display fixes).
Later I will implement ability to choose where to get exchange rates from, email alert for worker speed a payout graph with btc/mhs line in it.

because the hash rate fluctuates.  you, and everyone else moves up and down the list throughout the day.  some people have more hash rate than others, and you're just looking at a snapshot of an instant when you happen to be next to each other.

Funny you say that, if I take the addresses and enter into my stats page I can see that the hashrate for all of them a pretty stable over time (7 days) and should in no way have anything to do with different balances, this is ALL server differences that should be taken care of asap.

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February 02, 2014, 04:45:34 PM
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Funny you say that, if I take the addresses and enter into my stats page I can see that the hashrate for all of them a pretty stable over time (7 days) and should in no way have anything to do with different balances, this is ALL server differences that should be taken care of asap.
to me, 'pretty' stable is not stable.  you have a ragged sawtooth, not a line.  you're seeing the peak of one user's sawtooth, and the valley of another.  

e.g. in your last 24 hours, i see a peak of up to 3.0mh, and a valley close to 2.1mh.  that is a max/min difference of 0.9mh.  everyone has this same flux in their hashrate as returned by the middlecoin servers.  

e.g. take a look at your bottom 'pretty' stable graph of accepted shares in the past HOUR alone:  at times you have over 150shares/min, and at other times you have 0shares/min.  again, a 'pretty' stable graph is not stable. 

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February 02, 2014, 05:00:05 PM
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Today isn't going so well,
Current balance:  0.01050614
Unexchanged balance:  0.00651058
Immature balance:  0.00295424
with a 2.3 MH/s rig and very low rejects (<1%, the last client in the table below).

I don't know where people are getting a lot of unexchanged from because I ain't getting none!

Take this from the page, 6 clients with the same Accepted MH/s, two of which doesn't have any rejects at all (the last one in the table is mine).  
These two without rejects have about the same immature as the other but are lacking seriously (-0.025 btc ish) in unexchanged but on the other hand they have a balance of ~0.005 btc more..  
So in theory they're -0.02 btc behind others with the same rate as themselves, which is a lot with a rig that does about 0.03 btc per day normally.
I you look at the middlecoin page you can see the pattern repeat, why are some less favored than others? Why such a difference between servers?

AddressAccepted MH/sRejected MH/sImmatureUnexchangedBalance
1QHxYW2ngFPvsqZXxG8c72gRAtpF3bTzje2.591100.004367100.009029490.01055366
1AtG5gvumRdHCEwAa24B13zQAECQPvSWCs   2.59110.18640.003908640.029061610.00489334
1QKFfMkMoMiUifk2NMBgTuL3EjMtFjFPwu2.59110.27960.002892570.030443900.00526744
1CBdJeLB17mNcVpWA2SKJxECjdvqFt5uMA2.59110.11180.003110960.022304960.00442423
1HQC8TmkC2VkZAc1SMqXkdRJWKZHh1ztzU2.59110.13050.003939860.030394960.00660055
1JTgncSrWiQtEAdtYhtytCEqND8wVb3b5R2.591100.003321270.006160170.01086730

Edit: I run on amsterdam with failover to eu, useast, uswest, asia.      

agree with you! amsterdam's rejected value is really good but payout is really bad.

i cant get why this is happening.
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February 02, 2014, 05:27:24 PM
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Bit of a heads up people, dont install the 14.1 mantle drivers... They completely break the miner software.

I have a R9 290 and have tested both cgminer and sgminer, both no worky.

Im sure one of the software boffins will work out whats going on soon enough.

Thanks! I was tempted...

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February 02, 2014, 05:30:56 PM
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It's been 12 hours since last payout... my balance is .005 for 3.5 Mhs.  Emote on that a while. 

What is your un-exchanged balance?

not enough...

LOL; You are either an asshole or a really good satirist Smiley

I always thought he was being sarcastic. Wink

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