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[ddd1]

when you guys calculate btc/mhs do you calculate based on khash or on WU?

as Ive understood it the WU is the correct way to measure khash.

[BrainShutdown]

h2o is a bad pool operator, very amateur and is stealing. When will you people wakeup? Sounds like you're starting to

Oh i am new here buy i heard this guy is a famous troll  

I put him on ignore. Life is much easier after that.

+1 a long long time ago 

[ckoeber]

hi i have a query I can't find the answer to. One of my miners (on the eu server) keeps telling me

"accepted untracked stratum share from pool 0"

I'm using cgminer 3.7.2, and not using --no-submit-stale

The other miners (also pointing to the eu server) don't, which confuses me since this link (below) suggests it is to do with the server.

http://mining-tips.weebly.com/1/post/2014/01/-accepted-untracked-stratum-share-from-pool-0.html

but that doesn't make any sense, because only one of my miners is doing this and all my miners are pointing to the same server..

Is there something obvious I'm missing ??

Take out the --no-submit-stale.

Middlecoin counts those.

From the FAQ:

Code:

Any tips for cgminer configuration?

Don't use --no-submit-stale. Stale shares caused by coin switches are actually paid.

Just reread this; you are already doing what I said.

I will look around then.

[pitobread]

How has it been today?

.016 btc. Monitor has gone off 5 times to tell me  I am below 1.9 on a 3 my miner.

Even my good days I am only making about  .011per mh.

[ckoeber]

How has it been today?

.016 btc. Monitor has gone off 5 times to tell me  I am below 1.9 on a 3 my miner.

Even my good days I am only making about  .011per mh.

What has your reject rate been like? At least based on what you wrote you won't be doing much better on wafflepool or clevermining.com

Check their states; they are at 0.010~0.011 btc right now (per 1 MH/s hash rate)

[BombaUcigasa]

"wafflepool" lol...

Where are you getting these stats from? Are you load balancing each server on one of your rigs or something? Are you taking into account that the payout people ACTUALLY receive is ~3.4% less than total pool earnings?

I ask because these numbers are quite different than my numbers. Based on my personal payouts. I'll share my numbers in a bit.

You're showing ~.014/MH for yesterday.
My numbers say about .009.

this is what my payments look like, as well as the associated BTC/day and BTC/day/MH. includes 5 days averages and all time averages (from mid January)

ok here we go:

Yes, I explained before I keep one rig mining on all servers and track each one's result. If one server has connectivity issues it will show at a lower payout (because it will be de-prioritized against better uptime connections taking it's power).

Also my numbers are averaged over 2-3 days, not instant numbers. It's easy to calculate, look at this chart:


Let's say the last 5 payments as reference:
239.45 BTC
219.59 BTC
443.37 BTC
354.32 BTC
266.92 + 92.78 BTC

On average: 332.20 BTC/day. Now looking at the power graph we "see" about 21000 Mhash. So we have an average of 0.0158 BTC/Mhash/day. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also from this the fee is subtracted.

Then there are users like http://www.middlecoin.com/reports/15yiUpi18EZjYzfmxhxpT7MWK9JvnBCNXp.html which seem to get below 0.009 BTC/Mhash/day.

[phzi]

Let's say the last 5 payments as reference:
239.45 BTC
219.59 BTC
443.37 BTC
354.32 BTC
266.92 + 92.78 BTC

On average: 332.20 BTC/day. Now looking at the power graph we "see" about 21000 Mhash. So we have an average of 0.0158 BTC/Mhash/day. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also from this the fee is subtracted.

Badly incorrect.  Notice that the pool's exchange balance never starts at 0 after a payout.  You would have to subtract an unknown chunk of exchanged but unpaid balances from the "payments" you are quoting.

[Nodster]

I feel like since I've increased my hashrate, my btc/Mhash/day has gone down something rotten! Things don't seem to work out when you do the maths like ^

http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/19FXHN7jnSei1qVkYTiZqjvvGcoMgb8aFX.html

[iqacid]

I feel like since I've increased my hashrate, my btc/Mhash/day has gone down something rotten! Things don't seem to work out when you do the maths like ^

http://middlecoin2.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/reports/19FXHN7jnSei1qVkYTiZqjvvGcoMgb8aFX.html

i stopped mining at MC since 8 hours ago with two riigs

http://www.bfpcoin.com/middle-coin-web.php?w=1HeFdHcCvFCCv57MihYANRXLjJQ5oMkeQs&c=USD

and i kept mining with another two rigs

http://www.bfpcoin.com/middle-coin-web.php?w=1DRjiHfMYQzx5EfmKywS3zmziSutV3Vhr7

my second rigs were 0.005 btc behind the first rigs but the stats dosent changed at all and still behind that! seems graph dosent work for 10 hours or more

anyone has this problem too?

Edited: im on useast btw

[resetgoris]

I get 99.9% reject... wth is wrong with middlecoin?
No problem on other pools.

[BombaUcigasa]

Let's say the last 5 payments as reference:
239.45 BTC
219.59 BTC
443.37 BTC
354.32 BTC
266.92 + 92.78 BTC

On average: 332.20 BTC/day. Now looking at the power graph we "see" about 21000 Mhash. So we have an average of 0.0158 BTC/Mhash/day. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also from this the fee is subtracted.

Badly incorrect.  Notice that the pool's exchange balance never starts at 0 after a payout.  You would have to subtract an unknown chunk of exchanged but unpaid balances from the "payments" you are quoting.

Badly corrected. I would have to agree with you if the starting point varied greatly every day. Instead it starts at about the same point, so they might as well start from zero. Even if we exclude that, there is still some difference.

However there has to a high hash payment source recorded for every day so the entire pool is averaged into calculation. The difference between servers is still important for profitability.

[coins101]

MC was supposed to be easy - point miners, add BTC address, done.

I'm spending more time keeping up with this thread than drinking beer. Tried to do both, but it spoils the moment (of drinking beer .

So, it is now beer o'clock 

[BombaUcigasa]

So, it is now beer o'clock 

As is tradition...

[dgross0818]

USEast still experiencing a large number of rejects? Throwing around 14.5MH/s at the server right now and getting 1.7MH/s in rejects, which is way higher than normal

[ckoeber]

I get 99.9% reject... wth is wrong with middlecoin?
No problem on other pools.

Almost 100% rejection? Post your config; weird.

[Damnsammit]

I'm getting around 8% rejects on USEast right now.

Too lazy to fix it... just spent all afternoon locating a bad GPU and reconfiguring a rig.

Now time to place an order for some new toys.

Daddy needs more hash.

[pitobread]

How has it been today?

.016 btc. Monitor has gone off 5 times to tell me  I am below 1.9 on a 3 my miner.

Even my good days I am only making about  .011per mh.

What has your reject rate been like? At least based on what you wrote you won't be doing much better on wafflepool or clevermining.com

Check their states; they are at 0.010~0.011 btc right now (per 1 MH/s hash rate)

Before the update to all servers running  the new  beta code I was getting g 6-8% rejects with zero "disconnects". Now I get 1-2 and middle coin drops my connection. I use the term disconnect loosely because I am still connected and sending valid work. But middlecoin says I am not and it shows in my payout.  I am making .007-.008 a day?  I can definitely beat that.

[gsrcrxsi]

Let's say the last 5 payments as reference:
239.45 BTC
219.59 BTC
443.37 BTC
354.32 BTC
266.92 + 92.78 BTC

On average: 332.20 BTC/day. Now looking at the power graph we "see" about 21000 Mhash. So we have an average of 0.0158 BTC/Mhash/day. Correct me if I'm wrong. Also from this the fee is subtracted.

Badly incorrect.  Notice that the pool's exchange balance never starts at 0 after a payout.  You would have to subtract an unknown chunk of exchanged but unpaid balances from the "payments" you are quoting.

Badly corrected. I would have to agree with you if the starting point varied greatly every day. Instead it starts at about the same point, so they might as well start from zero. Even if we exclude that, there is still some difference.

However there has to a high hash payment source recorded for every day so the entire pool is averaged into calculation. The difference between servers is still important for profitability.

unfortunately i think your method is terribly flawed. you have too much room for error.

youre guessing at what the average hashrate is for the whole pool. rather than work of the individual servers.

and you arent taking into account the fees. youre going by rough "eyeball" values. when you really need to be looking at controlled hashrates and ACTUAL IN YOUR WALLET payments.

unless you could get an accurate reading of the average hashrate of the whole pool everyday and then remember to take off 3.4% (which it appears you didnt) from the total BTC generated.

[Raz31337]

My workers are solid at ~4MH - but middlecoin wanders from 1.5 to 4.2 mhash all over the place
http://www.middlecoin.com/reports/1KkfPxwQTsTawfuFgPxn78DuVvdJUxpcvv.html

miners are all pointed at USwest

[pitobread]

My workers are solid at ~4MH - but middlecoin wanders from 1.5 to 4.2 mhash all over the place
http://www.middlecoin.com/reports/1KkfPxwQTsTawfuFgPxn78DuVvdJUxpcvv.html

miners are all pointed at USwest

Looks identical to mine.  I also use USwest.