[ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - www.middlecoin.com

[gsrcrxsi]

Well now we are just thread-jacking and getting way off-topic,  but that guys post is validation enough as why not to run CGWatcher. CGWatcher is a piece of shit. I'm no Einstein, but I'm not fucking stupid either. I agree that cutting the balls off by selecting a lower intensity is fucking stupid.  It's also fucking stupid to wring the shit out of your cards until they end up "sick" and "dead",  and to rely on a re-start to straighten everything out until it happens again. Throwing shares away to re-boot because I overheated my cards or constantly running at a sub-par speed are not my ideas of a stable and optimized system.  All but one of my single-core 7950s are set to I-19 and average ~630 kh/s each,  and throttle back and forth between ~620 and ~640. I have one set to I-18 so I can periodically use my monitor while mining without locking up the rig. That one throttles between ~600 and 620 Khs.  Temps almost never go above 74 degrees and fan speeds almost never go above 3400 rpm on any of my cards. Most of the time they run lower in terms of temp and fan speed. I could squeeze a liiiiittle more hash out of them if I wanted periodic lock-ups,  but what's the point since I stopped having sick/dead cards (your temps are too high,  you are killing your fans/cards) or hard locks (indicates gpu engine and/or mem clocks and/or T.C. settings are too high),  once I tuned my config.  Why do I need CGWatcher again?  Why do I need a program that would consistently NOT work properly and consistently NOT activate CGMiner if I decided to reboot or the power went out? A simple BIOS setting and a cgminer batch file in the start-up menu addresses those conditions.  And forget about setting CGWatcher up for quota work across multiple pools,  those settings were good for what,  one go-around, iirc. It didn't take me too long to figure out that CGWatcher was basically an all-around pain-in-the-ass,  barely-serviceable band-aid for a poorly tuned config file. CGMiner gives you all of the tools that you need to maximize your hash rate as well as to avoid sick/dead cards/hard locks at the same time. It took me a little longer to figure out which version of CGMiner has a dead-balls accurate quota function,  but yeah,  it does that too.

Personally I'd rather keep my 7950 making 690KH/s and have cgwatcger restart or reboot 1-2 times a day than take the hit of running it significantly slower but more "stable" as to not need cgwatcher.

I don't see how you think CGwatcher is such a pain to work with. I found it incredibly easy to use and configure.

[Catswold]

This thread just gets more entertaining every day.   I'm about to run out of popcorn.



There's more melodrama than a cheap matinee B-movie.

Funny thing, regardless of all the hysteria, I have more bitcoin today than I did yesterday and all I had to do is keep my computers running and connected . . . something I've been doing for a long, long time . . . for nothing.

Y'all just continue to run about, screaming, whining, complaining, threatening, accusing . . . and "just generally carrying on cranky.^*"  It's a lot more entertaining than a soap opera.




^*Commander Susan Ivonova, Babylon 5

[Quenouille79]

This thread just gets more entertaining every day.   I'm about to run out of popcorn.



There's more melodrama than a cheap matinee B-movie.

Funny thing, regardless of all the hysteria, I have more bitcoin today than I did yesterday and all I had to do is keep my computers running and connected . . . something I've been doing for a long, long time . . . for nothing.

Y'all just continue to run about, screaming, whining, complaining, threatening, accusing . . . and "just generally making cranky.^*"  It's a lot more entertaining than a soap opera.




^*Commander Susan Ivonovich, Babylon 5

hey man, i'm going to grocery now, I'll get you more popcorn. do you need anything else?

[meuhrik]

The automatic selection of nearest server does not seem to be 100% optimal. I live 10 KM from Amsterdam, bit still the miner seems to point to Ireland.


Pinging middlecoin.com [54.194.173.83] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 54.194.173.83: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=56
Reply from 54.194.173.83: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=56

Pinging amsterdam.middlecoin.com [37.58.69.218] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 37.58.69.218: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=54
Reply from 37.58.69.218: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=54


Does anyone know how the server is chosen? I get only the Ireland and Amsterdam server when I query middlecoin.com for DNS records.

 

[jedimstr]

The automatic selection of nearest server does not seem to be 100% optimal. I live 10 KM from Amsterdam, bit still the miner seems to point to Ireland.


Pinging middlecoin.com [54.194.173.83] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 54.194.173.83: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=56
Reply from 54.194.173.83: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=56

Pinging amsterdam.middlecoin.com [37.58.69.218] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 37.58.69.218: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=54
Reply from 37.58.69.218: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=54


Does anyone know how the server is chosen? I get only the Ireland and Amsterdam server when I query middlecoin.com for DNS records.

 

Per the site.. bolded for emphasis:

middlecoin.com will point you to the closest server to you, but it's not always perfect. If you want to connect to a specific server or set backup pools, here is a list of the servers:

uswest.middlecoin.com (Oregon)
useast.middlecoin.com (N. Virginia)
eu.middlecoin.com (Ireland)
amsterdam.middlecoin.com
asia.middlecoin.com (Singapore)

If you're closer to Amsterdam and your pings are better there, then use amsterdam.middlecoin.com:3333 as your primary pool.

[coins101]

This thread just gets more entertaining every day.   I'm about to run out of popcorn.



There's more melodrama than a cheap matinee B-movie.

Funny thing, regardless of all the hysteria, I have more bitcoin today than I did yesterday and all I had to do is keep my computers running and connected . . . something I've been doing for a long, long time . . . for nothing.

Y'all just continue to run about, screaming, whining, complaining, threatening, accusing . . . and "just generally carrying on cranky.^*"  It's a lot more entertaining than a soap opera.




^*Commander Susan Ivonova, Babylon 5

[MrBobC]

If you're getting high rejects, just set a fixed server that works well for you. I use US East and I'm at 99.4% accepted atm.

@Prima Primat, what are your expiry/scan-time/queue settings?

[elpsycongro]

This thread just gets more entertaining every day.   I'm about to run out of popcorn.



There's more melodrama than a cheap matinee B-movie.

Funny thing, regardless of all the hysteria, I have more bitcoin today than I did yesterday and all I had to do is keep my computers running and connected . . . something I've been doing for a long, long time . . . for nothing.

Y'all just continue to run about, screaming, whining, complaining, threatening, accusing . . . and "just generally carrying on cranky.^*"  It's a lot more entertaining than a soap opera.




^*Commander Susan Ivonova, Babylon 5

this is my favorite thread to read at work makes the day go by faster

[eMiz0r]

Teh fuck... 15 GH/s? Has it ever been so "low" in the past weeks?

[pitobread]

wafflepool and middlecoin are on par in the last 24hr...

+1, just as clevermining by the way. I've switched from middlecoin to wafflepool a week ago and payouts are merely the same. You don't need to switch if you want to get payed better, the only reason could be better support (wafflepool), better website (clevermining) or don't switch at all. I was just tired of no communication and all the issues.

I can understand this; but what really is there to communicate beyond what has been communicated already via the Twitter posts and IRC?

It's obvious that all of the "lost shares" and percentages of those lost shares don't have a significant impact and the other pools aren't better where it counts.

On top of that you get higher than average payouts on Middlecoin than you get on these other pools.

So long story short; with all of the hoopla and hype people have been talking about these other pools they boil down to no big reason to switch.

Where it counts is putting money in my bank account.  The past week or so middlecoin hasn't been doing that, it is dropping my hashrate and accepting my work but I am not getting paid for that work.  In my opinion it is pretty foolish to work for someone for free under the premise it may pay out for you in the end.

I would rather put my work into a pool that is paying me for my work.

The twitter thing is a laughable support tool.  Real issues are brought up in this thread and no reply's are ever made to them, not even on this magical twitter feed.  One day it just may be fixed and start working right or it won't but you don't really know and just have to hope that it does. Why support a pool that makes attempts at fixing errors you bring up, I can go to the clevermining thread and get a nice courteous reply to an issue.  Hell on reddit he replied to one of my threads about a problem a few days after to let me know that he had finally fixed the issue.  this was after he at least replied and let me know he would look into it.

You don't see that here.  Other than twitter (which I don't use) or the contact link which half assed takes you here, he has no other means of contact on his page.

You may or may not be on the other end of the spectrum some day, but if you are like myself and others and have to just play the waiting game you could understand our complete frustration with how this whole operation works.  If he can't fix it, great let me know so I can switch to a different pool till you get your shit sorted out.  Not waste my time being unprofitable.

To me those are pretty good reasons to switch.

[MrBobC]

This is likely due to that thing from a few days ago where all the reported hashrates were down because it was mining a coin that hadn't been set up for representation in the stats.

[elpsycongro]

i have noticed the regular middlecoin.com server is producing very low rejects , i had load balancing on both useast.middlecoin.com and regular middlecoin.com and the difference was night and day so for now i switched to it entirely with useast as failover just to test further.

[zneww]

you guys wanted support for middlecoin? 

[MarcoPon]

i have noticed the regular middlecoin.com server is producing very low rejects , i had load balancing on both useast.middlecoin.com and regular middlecoin.com and the difference was night and day so for now i switched to it entirely with useast as failover just to test further.

There isn't a "regular" middlecoin.com server, it's just a way to redirect to one of the "real" servers:

uswest = 54.214.242.184
useast = 54.197.251.210
eu = 54.194.173.83
amsterdam = 37.58.69.218
asia = 54.254.224.191

I'm in Europe, and for me middlecon.com point to the amsterdam one. For you it will be a different one. If you ping middlecoin.com you'll see which one.

[forcefedvr6]

If it crashed all the time ... it's a piece of shit.

But it doesn't.

Personally I'd rather keep my 7950 making 690KH/s and have cgwatcger restart or reboot 1-2 times a day than take the hit of running it significantly slower but more "stable" as to not need cgwatcher.

Neither of you two paid close enough attention. 

[artiface]

wafflepool and middlecoin are on par in the last 24hr...

+1, just as clevermining by the way. I've switched from middlecoin to wafflepool a week ago and payouts are merely the same. You don't need to switch if you want to get payed better, the only reason could be better support (wafflepool), better website (clevermining) or don't switch at all. I was just tired of no communication and all the issues.

I can understand this; but what really is there to communicate beyond what has been communicated already via the Twitter posts and IRC?

It's obvious that all of the "lost shares" and percentages of those lost shares don't have a significant impact and the other pools aren't better where it counts.

On top of that you get higher than average payouts on Middlecoin than you get on these other pools.

So long story short; with all of the hoopla and hype people have been talking about these other pools they boil down to no big reason to switch.

Where it counts is putting money in my bank account.  The past week or so middlecoin hasn't been doing that, it is dropping my hashrate and accepting my work but I am not getting paid for that work.  In my opinion it is pretty foolish to work for someone for free under the premise it may pay out for you in the end.

I would rather put my work into a pool that is paying me for my work.

The twitter thing is a laughable support tool.  Real issues are brought up in this thread and no reply's are ever made to them, not even on this magical twitter feed.  One day it just may be fixed and start working right or it won't but you don't really know and just have to hope that it does. Why support a pool that makes attempts at fixing errors you bring up, I can go to the clevermining thread and get a nice courteous reply to an issue.  Hell on reddit he replied to one of my threads about a problem a few days after to let me know that he had finally fixed the issue.  this was after he at least replied and let me know he would look into it.

You don't see that here.  Other than twitter (which I don't use) or the contact link which half assed takes you here, he has no other means of contact on his page.

You may or may not be on the other end of the spectrum some day, but if you are like myself and others and have to just play the waiting game you could understand our complete frustration with how this whole operation works.  If he can't fix it, great let me know so I can switch to a different pool till you get your shit sorted out.  Not waste my time being unprofitable.

To me those are pretty good reasons to switch.

If your bottom line is money in your bank account, then go to other pools and see how they compare.  Then come back and apologize after you see middlecoin is consistently the highest.  I've tried pretty much every other auto trading pool there is, because yes middle coin does leave something to be desired in transparency, but in the end the payout is what counts and I always get more here.

[elpsycongro]

i have noticed the regular middlecoin.com server is producing very low rejects , i had load balancing on both useast.middlecoin.com and regular middlecoin.com and the difference was night and day so for now i switched to it entirely with useast as failover just to test further.

There isn't a "regular" middlecoin.com server, it's just a way to redirect to one of the "real" servers:

uswest = 54.214.242.184
useast = 54.197.251.210
eu = 54.194.173.83
amsterdam = 37.58.69.218
asia = 54.254.224.191

I'm in Europe, and for me middlecon.com point to the amsterdam one. For you it will be a different one. If you ping middlecoin.com you'll see which one.

its possible its redirecting me to a closer server, i pinged them all and useast has the lowest ping but seems like if i let middlecoin.com redirect me i get lower rejects.

[KS]

If your bottom line is money in your bank account, then go to other pools and see how they compare.  Then come back and apologize after you see middlecoin is consistently the highest.  I've tried pretty much every other auto trading pool there is, because yes middle coin does leave something to be desired in transparency, but in the end the payout is what counts and I always get more here.

Pretty much.

Even with the high rejects, I haven't found another that would pay as much. The others are still paying out 10-15% less (that's considering a 0% reject rate vs 5-10% for Middlecoin). Can't wait for the rejects to go back down.

[zSprawl]

i have noticed the regular middlecoin.com server is producing very low rejects , i had load balancing on both useast.middlecoin.com and regular middlecoin.com and the difference was night and day so for now i switched to it entirely with useast as failover just to test further.

There isn't a "regular" middlecoin.com server, it's just a way to redirect to one of the "real" servers:

uswest = 54.214.242.184
useast = 54.197.251.210
eu = 54.194.173.83
amsterdam = 37.58.69.218
asia = 54.254.224.191

I'm in Europe, and for me middlecon.com point to the amsterdam one. For you it will be a different one. If you ping middlecoin.com you'll see which one.

Earlier this week, I had 5% rejects pointing to uswest. Today I have less than 2%.

[Quenouille79]

Today is already a great day and we're still hours away from payout :-) 

very happy!