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June 18, 2014, 06:37:46 PM |
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That government form is not allowing me to register my proper address. It does not accept non US states or zip codes. Should I fax proof of claim to Jessica Mickelsen's fax number as listed on the creditor matrix?
No, the hardcopy of the proof of claim has to be filed via standard mail, unfortunately. I think perhaps if the creditor (you) are not a US citizen or have a US address the online form will not work for you. Others have been able to file their claim through this online form: https://ecf.canb.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/autoFilingClaims.plIf someone knows for sure if everyone needs to send their claim form by mail or only if you are not from/living in the US it would be helpful to clarify for everyone. Thanks I successfully filed my claim today online, I am from the UK so it should work for everyone. I thought the address is US-only? How did you bypass the address? I just followed the instructions on my letter and it worked.
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June 18, 2014, 07:33:20 PM |
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That government form is not allowing me to register my proper address. It does not accept non US states or zip codes. Should I fax proof of claim to Jessica Mickelsen's fax number as listed on the creditor matrix?
No, the hardcopy of the proof of claim has to be filed via standard mail, unfortunately. I think perhaps if the creditor (you) are not a US citizen or have a US address the online form will not work for you. Others have been able to file their claim through this online form: https://ecf.canb.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/autoFilingClaims.plIf someone knows for sure if everyone needs to send their claim form by mail or only if you are not from/living in the US it would be helpful to clarify for everyone. Thanks I successfully filed my claim today online, I am from the UK so it should work for everyone. I thought the address is US-only? How did you bypass the address? When I entered my name and the case number my address was already listed so I just selected it to move on to the rest of the form.
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June 18, 2014, 09:09:55 PM |
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CAN SOMEBODY TELL WHAT THE HEL L IS GOING ON?? WHAT ABOUT SMALL ORDERS?
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allinvain
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June 19, 2014, 04:36:37 AM |
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CAN SOMEBODY TELL WHAT THE HEL L IS GOING ON?? WHAT ABOUT SMALL ORDERS?
submit your proof of purchase..there are instructions a few pages back on where to send it (Office of the Clerk..etc). I mailed my proof and I'm a "small order" customer.
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June 19, 2014, 10:07:33 AM |
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So, how did the creditor formation meeting turned out to be? Any updates?
Nothing too exciting. People got a chance to ask questions of Hashfast's bankruptcy lawyer and their CFO, who was there representing the company. Neither Simon nor Eduardo showed up.
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cedivad
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June 19, 2014, 10:12:39 AM |
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So, how did the creditor formation meeting turned out to be? Any updates?
Nothing too exciting. People got a chance to ask questions of Hashfast's bankruptcy lawyer and their CFO, who was there representing the company. Neither Simon nor Eduardo showed up. And the interesting answers were given using orders of magnitude: How much is the IP worth? 1 to 10 millions. Meh.
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My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive: Bitcointa.lk - Replace "asktom.cf" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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June 19, 2014, 11:26:38 AM |
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pwewww fucking shit company ... they just screwed us completly..
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June 19, 2014, 03:41:34 PM |
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I guess they want to just hold up.. delay.. misrepresent until most just give up and move on??
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June 19, 2014, 09:38:01 PM |
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So, how did the creditor formation meeting turned out to be? Any updates?
Nothing too exciting. People got a chance to ask questions of Hashfast's bankruptcy lawyer and their CFO, who was there representing the company. Neither Simon nor Eduardo showed up. And the interesting answers were given using orders of magnitude: How much is the IP worth? 1 to 10 millions. Meh. Tnx. Good thing they aren't giving blurry answers.
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Prepare to enter a world of stress
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June 20, 2014, 12:13:29 AM |
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Ok I think I found my name on creditors list: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4g8D3nvEYDzajhuTzJTWmZWM3c/editIt seems that my address there isn't complete (missing United Kingdom, London). Is it only a draft of creditors adresses or do they have my full details somewhere? Is there anyone dealing with creditors, I could e-mail my complete address to? Thanks fucking shit....so hashfast just help compiled a hit list for people that want to physically steal bitcoin machines. beef up your physical security all. please. edit: FUCK! edit2: Hopefully, Simon and Amy have moved since their addresses are also in the list. Despite by utter disdain for this company I wouldn't want to see physical harm come to anyone. I live in an open carry stand your ground state. I have relocated hardware to a colo anyway for electricity reasons.
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June 20, 2014, 12:48:51 AM |
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just curious: as the ancestor to hashfast in the sense of "pre-order never delivered", how come BFL still lives, and never sued for bankruptcy?
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June 20, 2014, 01:06:07 AM |
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just curious: as the ancestor to hashfast in the sense of "pre-order never delivered", how come BFL still lives, and never sued for bankruptcy?
Because BFL mostly conned/screwed a lot of people for a little bit of money. Hashfast on the other hand conned/screwed fewer people for a *HUGE* amount of money. Those people are now fighting back.
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June 20, 2014, 07:19:36 AM |
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Ok I think I found my name on creditors list: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4g8D3nvEYDzajhuTzJTWmZWM3c/editIt seems that my address there isn't complete (missing United Kingdom, London). Is it only a draft of creditors adresses or do they have my full details somewhere? Is there anyone dealing with creditors, I could e-mail my complete address to? Thanks fucking shit....so hashfast just help compiled a hit list for people that want to physically steal bitcoin machines. beef up your physical security all. please. Actually the people on the list are those who did not receive their magic internet money making machines so this should not be much of a problem
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cedivad
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June 20, 2014, 02:29:01 PM |
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Some paperwork happened: 06/19/2014 78 Order Granting Motion to Shorten Time (Related Doc # 76) (pb) (Entered: 06/20/2014) http://hashfast.org/14-30725.78.pdf06/19/2014 76 First Amended Motion to Shorten TimeEx Parte Application for Order Shortening Time and Setting Hearing on Debtors' Motion to Amend Stipulation and Further Order with Respect to Emergency Motion of Liquidbits Corp. for Entry of an Order Appointing a Chapter 7 Trustee Pursuant to Section 303(G) of the Bankruptcy Code or for Alternative Relief(RE: related document(s) 71Motion to Shorten Time filed by Debtor Hashfast Technologies LLC). Filed by Debtor Hashfast Technologies LLC (Attachments: # 1Declaration Amended Declaration of Jessica M. Mickelsen) (Mickelsen, Jessica) (Entered: 06/19/2014) http://hashfast.org/14-30725.76.pdfhttp://hashfast.org/14-30725.76.2.pdf06/19/2014 75 Order Denying Debtor's Ex Parte Application for order shortening time and setting hearing on debtors' Motion to amend stipulation and further order with respect to emergency Motion of Liquidbits Corp. for entry of an Order appointing a chapter 7 trustee pursuant to Section 303(G) of the Bankruptcy code or for alternative relief. (Related Doc # 71) (ac) (Entered: 06/19/2014) http://hashfast.org/14-30725.75.pdf06/18/2014 73 Declaration of Jessica M. Mickelsen in support ofEx Parte application for Order Shortening Time and setting Hearing on Debtors' Motion to Amend Stipulation and Further Order with Respect to Emergency Motion of Liquidbits Corp. for Entry of an Order Appointing a Chapter 7 Trustee Pursuant to Section 303(G) of the Bankruptcy Code or for Alternative Relief(RE: related document(s) 71Motion to Shorten Time). Filed by Debtor Hashfast Technologies LLC (Mickelsen, Jessica) (Entered: 06/18/2014) http://hashfast.org/14-30725.73.pdf06/18/2014 71 Ex Parte Motion to Shorten TimeApplication for Order Shortening Time and Setting Hearing on Debtors' Motion to Amend Stipulation and Further Order with Respect to Emergency Motion of Liquidbits Corp. for Entry of an Order Appointing a Chapter 7 Trustee Pursuant to Section 303(G) of the Bankruptcy Code or for Alternative Relief(RE: related document(s) 68Motion to Amend filed by Debtor Hashfast Technologies LLC). Filed by Debtor Hashfast Technologies LLC (Mickelsen, Jessica) (Entered: 06/18/2014) http://hashfast.org/14-30725.71.pdf06/18/2014 68 Motion to AmendStipulation and Further Order with Respect to Emergency Motion of Liquidbits Corp. For Entry of an Order Appointing a Chapter 7 Trustee Pursuant to Section 303(G) of the Bankruptcy Code or for Alternative ReliefFiled by Debtor Hashfast Technologies LLC (Attachments: # 1Declaration of Monica Hushen) (Mickelsen, Jessica) (Entered: 06/18/2014) http://hashfast.org/14-30725.68.pdfhttp://hashfast.org/14-30725.68.2.pdf
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My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive: Bitcointa.lk - Replace "asktom.cf" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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June 20, 2014, 04:41:31 PM |
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Anyone waiting for BJ upgrade kits and not seeing their name on the list?
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June 20, 2014, 04:42:34 PM Last edit: June 20, 2014, 05:09:29 PM by aasl |
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Has anyone successfully send the claim documents to the court?
I sent mine via EMS, and today I checked the status and it says "Failed Delivery -- Addessee requested collection at Post Office".
So they will collect at the post office, right? How can I know they have received it or not?
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June 20, 2014, 05:34:59 PM |
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Actually the people on the list are those who did not receive their magic internet money making machines so this should not be much of a problem
Not true...I received a shitty miner that hashes at less than 350 GH/s that needs to be rebooted every few hours.
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June 20, 2014, 10:02:28 PM |
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Has anyone successfully send the claim documents to the court?
I sent mine via EMS, and today I checked the status and it says "Failed Delivery -- Addessee requested collection at Post Office".
So they will collect at the post office, right? How can I know they have received it or not?
Just file the claim online. You will get a number to ref back to. The most important thing is that the court has your name on record that you are owed money. If the court needs further clarification as to communications, order numbers ETC they will ask you via mail with the address you listed on the damn claim form. If Hashfast has a new chip they would like to deploy and properly restructure under Chapter 11, debtors will get more funds back. Very rarely 100%. The golden Brick shit is about to be obsolete in a few weeks thanks to Bitmain S3. What source of cash flow do they have after that? The legal team they have is most likely working for cash up front, huge retainer or they will end up on this list same as us and what are left are pennies on the dollar for outstanding creditors. A decent attorney ranges from about $275 to $400 per hr. in San Francisco. I would take bets they are late on utilities and lease obligations as well. Under Chapter 11 these get paid first.
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June 21, 2014, 06:35:37 AM |
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Perhaps for another thread. However you BLF folks that have filed suit should also engage the USPS as they ship product through them. Letting them know this company is using them to deliver fraudulent goods under the consumer protection act. Failing to deliver and refunding in a timely manner. Purposefully withholding time sensitive hardware.(the Postal investigators carry guns, only found this out recently.) If you get blown off by the postal service send the response to your elected Representative in congress asking them to see if they can look into it further. I kid you not sometimes our government works. Just have to push the right butt hole. I would also write the board of directors to FedEx and UPS with a similar letter. These two companies are publicly traded and this letter sufficing to notify governing leadership BLF has is or may use their service in transporting goods across state lines facilitating in fraud. Actually if you folks would Kraft one letter print it out, attach your signature to it and send it in snail mail so they get like a few hundred letters. It Will rattle them a tad. They will know a group is unhappy that may request compensation. UPS in particular just paid 40 Million in fines for the online pharmacy thing. They may listen. If they blow you off you send the response to the SEC asking them to look into this further. Hopefully creating as much pressure on the scum farts as possible so they settle. Also slowing down shipping to these large farms skipping your order Que. Good Luck.
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