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February 04, 2014, 07:33:38 AM |
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Any instructions on how to get Dualminer to work under Linux? I'm only interested in doing Scrypt with it.
Slightly off-topic here, but you could get BFGMiner support if they send nwoolls a sample one. Dude, you are pathetic. Get out of the cgminer thread and promote your stolen software elsewhere. You have it backward. So you're saying kano and ckolivas stole software from you? Legally speaking, they haven't stripped my copyrights and are abiding by the terms I licensed my code under. Practically speaking, they seem to be doing what they can to convince newbies that cgminer is the "original" and BFGMiner a "clone", when in reality I originally wrote the code basis for FPGA/ASIC mining*. On the other hand, I make it very clear in BFGMiner's documentation who has contributed, and to what degree. * cgminer has since moved on to rewrite most of this code, but the reality remains that it was second to the game, after BFGMiner.
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matt4054
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February 04, 2014, 10:36:33 AM |
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By the way, there are still relics from Scrypt/GPU support here, you may want to update 
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Askit2
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February 04, 2014, 11:12:28 AM |
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Any instructions on how to get Dualminer to work under Linux? I'm only interested in doing Scrypt with it.
Slightly off-topic here, but you could get BFGMiner support if they send nwoolls a sample one. Dude, you are pathetic. Get out of the cgminer thread and promote your stolen software elsewhere. You have it backward. So you're saying kano and ckolivas stole software from you? Legally speaking, they haven't stripped my copyrights and are abiding by the terms I licensed my code under. Practically speaking, they seem to be doing what they can to convince newbies that cgminer is the "original" and BFGMiner a "clone", when in reality I originally wrote the code basis for FPGA/ASIC mining*. On the other hand, I make it very clear in BFGMiner's documentation who has contributed, and to what degree. * cgminer has since moved on to rewrite most of this code, but the reality remains that it was second to the game, after BFGMiner. You remind me of a real doctor I know of. A patient comes in with a skyrocketing white count, very low (hospitalization required) platelet count, coughing up blood, dizzy, and a few other issues it seems better not to post. All of the symptoms pointed to a certain C word. The doctor sends the patient home blaming mono and states if you where 50 and smoked we would worry about cancer. Within a week patient was diagnosed with leukemia and wasn't terribly happy with the generally malpractice worthy doctoring. The reason you remind me of said doctor is you are sure that you are right, all knowing and to be trusted beyond reason. Lets be honest. bfgminer wasn't mining on anything in the early days of FPGA's. It didn't exist. After BFL singles support and some Icarus related windows issues you went your own way. Now maybe you wrote a lot of code in cgminer I personally don't know. The commits would know. That having been said you hadn't re-written the entire code base just for FPGA's. You made use of everything cgminer did for GPU's and potentially added on some interfacing code to allow non GPU devices. Now that doesn't mean big freaking deal miner existed. It means cgminer supported the items that where supported up until you left by whatever developer maintained the devices. The fact that your software pulled 2.3.4 to start means 2.3.3 and before versions of cgminer worked just fine without bfgminer existing. Current version also works great (imho) without your meddling. You have a thread use it.
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NicholasB54
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February 04, 2014, 01:02:39 PM |
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Hi folks
Just wondering if I can run 2 different USB ASICs (Antminer + Block Erupter) on same Win 7 PC using CGMiner ?
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Beastlymac
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February 04, 2014, 01:33:58 PM |
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Hi folks
Just wondering if I can run 2 different USB ASICs (Antminer + Block Erupter) on same Win 7 PC using CGMiner ?
Yes you can.
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Message me if you have any problems
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NicholasB54
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February 04, 2014, 02:41:06 PM |
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Hi folks
Just wondering if I can run 2 different USB ASICs (Antminer + Block Erupter) on same Win 7 PC using CGMiner ?
Yes you can. Well I guess that does answer my question in a minimalist sort of way  I found a post elsewhere saying CGMiner tries to use all attached devices by default, but it's not working for me. Given the few cent per day, don't think it's worth bothering about so wil just continue running the Ant alone Thx
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Luke-Jr
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February 04, 2014, 05:14:39 PM |
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Lets be honest. bfgminer wasn't mining on anything in the early days of FPGA's. It didn't exist. Yes it did, it was released under the name "cgminer", in collaboration with Con/Kano's GPU miner. After BFL singles support and some Icarus related windows issues you went your own way. No, after ASICs were announced, Con/Kano went their own way because they were upset. Now maybe you wrote a lot of code in cgminer I personally don't know. The commits would know. That having been said you hadn't re-written the entire code base just for FPGA's. You made use of everything cgminer did for GPU's and potentially added on some interfacing code to allow non GPU devices. No, cgminer had been very tied around GPU code, and had entirely independent code for CPUs. It took some pretty big changes to make it into a modular/driver based model. Now that doesn't mean big freaking deal miner existed. It means cgminer supported the items that where supported up until you left by whatever developer maintained the devices. The fact that your software pulled 2.3.4 to start means 2.3.3 and before versions of cgminer worked just fine without bfgminer existing. You have an awfully centralised way of looking at things. Just because early versions of BFGMiner were released in this thread, thanks to my efforts to try to collaborate rather than release independently at the start, somehow means in your mind that everything only "counts" toward Con/Kano's sole credit after they decide to split off?
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February 04, 2014, 05:16:35 PM |
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Hi folks
Just wondering if I can run 2 different USB ASICs (Antminer + Block Erupter) on same Win 7 PC using CGMiner ?
Yes you can. Well I guess that does answer my question in a minimalist sort of way  I found a post elsewhere saying CGMiner tries to use all attached devices by default, but it's not working for me. Given the few cent per day, don't think it's worth bothering about so wil just continue running the Ant alone Thx Every little bit helps.
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February 04, 2014, 05:53:02 PM |
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You have an awfully centralised way of looking at things. Just because early versions of BFGMiner were released in this thread, thanks to my efforts to try to collaborate rather than release independently at the start, somehow means in your mind that everything only "counts" toward Con/Kano's sole credit after they decide to split off?
It is amazing to me that after all this time you continually try to lie to convince everyone. Perhaps you are lying over and over so that some day you might convince yourself that you actually matter. You don't. You are a troll. You are an insignificant little man who only gains attention by riding the coattails of people who have actually done something. I feel sorry that this, most likely, is the only thing you have in your life to bring you joy. The fact that you must continually insert yourself into places where you clearly don't belong and are not wanted only serves to prove just how pathetic you really are. I pity you.
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Viceroy
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February 04, 2014, 06:39:10 PM |
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Dear Viceroy, Good day to you and may the fleas of a thousand camels infest your crotch.
WOW, that was insightful, thanks for the contribution! 
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February 04, 2014, 09:29:11 PM Last edit: February 04, 2014, 09:56:55 PM by Askit2 |
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Lets be honest. bfgminer wasn't mining on anything in the early days of FPGA's. It didn't exist. Yes it did, it was released under the name "cgminer", in collaboration with Con/Kano's GPU miner. By releasing cgminer with your code it doesn't change the fact bfgminer was not in existence as bfgminer. Cgminer existed but bfgminer wasn't a thing yet. Let me give an example to provide some illuminated cognition. There was a car made by Pontiac called the LeMans. It existed for a few years before its more famous option package was available. Now did the parts of the GTO exists in a GM catalogue? Most of them. Does that mean anyone owned a 60 GTO? No. The product in question didn't exist as such until it did. It doesn't matter that something like it existed. What I am saying is that until you released your miner that your miner by its name and only cgminer pulls and teams work existed. You have added people since and that's great. That doesn't change the fact that only one miner was released. After BFL singles support and some Icarus related windows issues you went your own way. No, after ASICs were announced, Con/Kano went their own way because they were upset. no the split happened when ztex boards released the Y version. Cgminer supported it bfgminer either did or was working on it. Now april of 2012 wasn't when ASICs started. They where announced before July of 2012. I am pretty sure it was in June. Even then it isn't like everything was done with FPGA's. Now maybe you wrote a lot of code in cgminer I personally don't know. The commits would know. That having been said you hadn't re-written the entire code base just for FPGA's. You made use of everything cgminer did for GPU's and potentially added on some interfacing code to allow non GPU devices. No, cgminer had been very tied around GPU code, and had entirely independent code for CPUs. It took some pretty big changes to make it into a modular/driver based model. I am not saying it didn't. What I was saying is that based on commits at the time you didn't single handedly change it. Now that doesn't mean big freaking deal miner existed. It means cgminer supported the items that where supported up until you left by whatever developer maintained the devices. The fact that your software pulled 2.3.4 to start means 2.3.3 and before versions of cgminer worked just fine without bfgminer existing. You have an awfully centralised way of looking at things. Just because early versions of BFGMiner were released in this thread, thanks to my efforts to try to collaborate rather than release independently at the start, somehow means in your mind that everything only "counts" toward Con/Kano's sole credit after they decide to split off? Not centralized way of looking at anything (ignoring your typo). There was a project named cgminer. It existed yours as bfgminer didn't. Now did some code live in cgminer that you created sure. I never argued against that. But you didn't have bfgminer released until far later. The credit as such goes not to just you but the whole team that worked on cgminer at the time. Yes con and kano and lJr get credit in my mind. That being said the split off is where bfgminer started. Sorry if I forgot anyone who did provide code I don't mean to leave you out of credit. Just trying to make a point.
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February 04, 2014, 09:33:49 PM |
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Silly question and I see it back on a 2011 post as a feature request, but is there a way to pause the client? Control+C (as well as Q) obviously is a kill command.
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February 04, 2014, 09:48:43 PM Last edit: February 04, 2014, 10:00:33 PM by rgr_rgr |
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You could disable devices. And you could disable pools. Both "pause" mining. Does this fit for you?
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February 04, 2014, 09:59:36 PM |
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Once upon a time we were all here, working together, trying to create a decentralized currency. Unfortunately that idea has been lost by Kano and company as they no longer support the individual miners that were the early adopters and creators of all the cryptocurrency.
Instead they are only supporting groups with massive infrastructures and massive capital.
A USB miner costs about $20. What does a GPU cost? Maybe you should calm down and check reality. I don't like the decision to abandon GPU and scrypt. But the small guy is still able to mine. With a USB stick he mines faster and cheaper than with GPU. So if you want to argue, please use arguments.
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February 04, 2014, 10:31:10 PM |
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Once upon a time we were all here, working together, trying to create a decentralized currency. Unfortunately that idea has been lost by Kano and company as they no longer support the individual miners that were the early adopters and creators of all the cryptocurrency.
Instead they are only supporting groups with massive infrastructures and massive capital.
A USB miner costs about $20. What does a GPU cost? Maybe you should calm down and check reality. I don't like the decision to abandon GPU and scrypt. But the small guy is still able to mine. With a USB stick he mines faster and cheaper than with GPU. So if you want to argue, please use arguments. You missed what actually caused all this. He created a scrypt scamcoin, like every other one created every so often, and was upset that someone decided to stop altcoin support and GPU support in cgminer. GPU support is complete nonsense in bitcoin mining (as you've pointed out) so that's got nothing to do with it. So what he is really complaining about is altcoins - which is even off topic in here  (Yes his post can be requested to be deleted - it is off topic) lol at the crap he posted above - it's so funny that some one delusional go running to the delusion king himself 
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Viceroy
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February 04, 2014, 10:34:12 PM |
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Who created a scam coin?
You had better watch your mouth, mustache pete, that is libel where I come from and it's a criminal offense to commit libel against a Coloradan. And kindly post in English, not your native mafioso.
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February 04, 2014, 10:40:01 PM |
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Who created a scam coin?
You had better watch your mouth, mustache pete, that is libel where I come from and it's a criminal offense to commit libel against a Coloradan. And kindly post in English, not your native mafioso.
You created a scamcoin. They are off topic.
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Viceroy
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February 04, 2014, 10:41:14 PM |
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Who created a scam coin? Specifics please.
The only scam I see here is Kano's support of centralized mining which is exactly what we all came here to avoid. Thank god there are better supported miners than cgminer or we'd all be doomed to Kano's world.
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Viceroy
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February 04, 2014, 10:59:28 PM |
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A USB miner costs about $20. What does a GPU cost? Maybe you should calm down and check reality. I don't like the decision to abandon GPU and scrypt. But the small guy is still able to mine. With a USB stick he mines faster and cheaper than with GPU. So if you want to argue, please use arguments.
"The small guy is able to mine". I think you missed the point. The small guy's mining with a USB stick is meaningless in the face of massive centralized mining operations. Kano supports massive centralized mining and for this reason alone you should adopt a different piece of software. Or perhaps you like the idea of centralized banking, like Kano does. If so, support him. If you are against decentralization adopt another mining program.
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Luke-Jr
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February 04, 2014, 11:02:32 PM |
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Not centralized way of looking at anything (ignoring your typo). There was a project named cgminer. It existed yours as bfgminer didn't. BFGMiner is merely a continuation of the same project under a new name. The credit as such goes not to just you but the whole team that worked on cgminer at the time. Yes con and kano and lJr get credit in my mind. Great, sounds like you're the exception here who understands that. That being said the split off is where bfgminer started. No, the split off was Con/Kano deciding they would no longer collaborate. If any project started forking off at this point, it was the new cgminer. One could argue it was simply a two-way split of the same project, but to say new-cgminer is a continuation and BFGMiner "merely" a fork is unreasonable since BFGMiner just continued on as things were prior to the split. In any case, how one prefers to label these things is much less relevant than what works best, which is ultimately the proper metric to be using when you choose your mining software. For some people, cgminer works better (hot unplug and Avalon dynamic clocking come to mind as cgminer advantages at the moment). For many others, BFGMiner is the clear winner... and we strive to make it better all the time.
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