Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[sorehammer]

The 25% is not much use if they keep the minimum order of x1's at 10 or how do people who ordered 1 x1 order another 1 to get the free one with out ordering 9 they don't want.

[y_boonstra]

the ppl who orderd 1 X1 are getting screwed. and the ppl wich have orderd an uneven number of miners

[sorehammer]

the ppl who orderd 1 X1 are getting screwed

the 25% is a rip off it's supposed to appese batch 1 and batch 2, as i see it batch 1 is now middle of May but thats when batch2 is supposed to ship.

[y_boonstra]

the ppl who orderd 1 X1 are getting screwed

the 25% is a rip off it's supposed to appese batch 1 and batch 2, as i see it batch 1 is now middle of May but thats when batch2 is supposed to ship.

True + the 25% can only be used on minion based products.. like we would ever buy another minion based miner.. NOT.
it would be nice if you could use it in a future order thats not limited to a minion based miner..

the only ppl who would maybe buy a minion based miner are those who bought 1 X1 to get their extra miner.
But to get your compensation @ BA you have to buy a min of 10..

[RoadStress]

the ppl who orderd 1 X1 are getting screwed

the 25% is a rip off it's supposed to appese batch 1 and batch 2, as i see it batch 1 is now middle of May but thats when batch2 is supposed to ship.

True + the 25% can only be used on minion based products.. like we would ever buy another minion based miner.. NOT.
it would be nice if you could use it in a future order thats not limited to a minion based miner..

I invite you to speak with the wallet and to change your mining supplier!

[Adrians__]

Anyone checked with them about changing the order to include hosting? Do they have any capacity left?

I asked this question, but have not gotten an answer yet.

[david105396]

Adrians, it is being looked into to see if this is still possible to organize at the moment.

[bobsag3]

Anyone checked with them about changing the order to include hosting? Do they have any capacity left?

I asked this question, but have not gotten an answer yet.

We have plenty of space over in the US for hosting.

[kgbgk]

the ppl who orderd 1 X1 are getting screwed. and the ppl wich have orderd an uneven number of miners

I concur with this sentiment. I think there should be a direct payout relational to the hashing power purchased over the period of time misrepresented by the company. They failed to deliver a product plain and simple and now they're using a buy 2 get 1 free scheme to illicit more money. The only compensation after the initial failed delivery should be from the company and not from customer purchases buying more units to fulfill the hokey compensation scheme.

I want to believe in Black Arrow as other customers but investing more money is not an option.

[jimmothy]

the ppl who orderd 1 X1 are getting screwed. and the ppl wich have orderd an uneven number of miners

I concur with this sentiment. I think there should be a direct payout relational to the hashing power purchased over the period of time misrepresented by the company. They failed to deliver a product plain and simple and now they're using a buy 2 get 1 free scheme to illicit more money. The only compensation after the initial failed delivery should be from the company and not from customer purchases buying more units to fulfill the hokey compensation scheme.

I want to believe in Black Arrow as other customers but investing more money is not an option.

bobsag said he thinks those with a single x1 order will receive a second x1 free. This would be great but we still need to wait for clarification.

[bobsag3]

the ppl who orderd 1 X1 are getting screwed. and the ppl wich have orderd an uneven number of miners

I concur with this sentiment. I think there should be a direct payout relational to the hashing power purchased over the period of time misrepresented by the company. They failed to deliver a product plain and simple and now they're using a buy 2 get 1 free scheme to illicit more money. The only compensation after the initial failed delivery should be from the company and not from customer purchases buying more units to fulfill the hokey compensation scheme.

I want to believe in Black Arrow as other customers but investing more money is not an option.

bobsag said he thinks those with a single x1 order will receive a second x1 free. This would be great but we still need to wait for clarification.

I am checking about that, and offering a Gift Card to my store for the equiv value to allow to be ordered on X1 or X3.

[ernie-]

bobsag said he thinks those with a single x1 order will receive a second x1 free. This would be great but we still need to wait for clarification.

I guess he would need to be able to claim an even number of them from BA in one hit.

[heslo]

the ppl who orderd 1 X1 are getting screwed. and the ppl wich have orderd an uneven number of miners

I concur with this sentiment. I think there should be a direct payout relational to the hashing power purchased over the period of time misrepresented by the company. They failed to deliver a product plain and simple and now they're using a buy 2 get 1 free scheme to illicit more money. The only compensation after the initial failed delivery should be from the company and not from customer purchases buying more units to fulfill the hokey compensation scheme.

I want to believe in Black Arrow as other customers but investing more money is not an option.

bobsag said he thinks those with a single x1 order will receive a second x1 free. This would be great but we still need to wait for clarification.

I am checking about that, and offering a Gift Card to my store for the equiv value to allow to be ordered on X1 or X3.

That's much appreciated even though it's not a problem that you have caused. What is the equivalent value to though? I'll most definitely order through you again, seems I'll be buying at least a PSU

[y_boonstra]

the ppl who orderd 1 X1 are getting screwed. and the ppl wich have orderd an uneven number of miners

I concur with this sentiment. I think there should be a direct payout relational to the hashing power purchased over the period of time misrepresented by the company. They failed to deliver a product plain and simple and now they're using a buy 2 get 1 free scheme to illicit more money. The only compensation after the initial failed delivery should be from the company and not from customer purchases buying more units to fulfill the hokey compensation scheme.

I want to believe in Black Arrow as other customers but investing more money is not an option.

bobsag said he thinks those with a single x1 order will receive a second x1 free. This would be great but we still need to wait for clarification.

I am checking about that, and offering a Gift Card to my store for the equiv value to allow to be ordered on X1 or X3.

That's much appreciated even though it's not a problem that you have caused. What is the equivalent value to though? I'll most definitely order through you again, seems I'll be buying at least a PSU

Bobsag,

Thats a nice gesture you made, now i wish i had orderd from you instead of BA.. but im stuck with BA directly and i dont want to spend more money to get my complete compensation.. we already lost to much

[Wookie50]

I've been trying to follow all the posts but missed something...

Is BA officially slipping B1 orders X-3's again ... from May 1 to May 8?  I didn't get any email notification from BA ... the latest email I received from BA was on Jan 29 stating that they are slipping B1 shipments until May 1.  So, is this another official slip?

Power Supply for the 3rd 1TH/s module:  Is there an official spec on this?  Should I be getting a Corsair 750?  1200?  Is it even an ATX PSU?  

I see the spec for the X-3 (the 2 TH/s version) says that the Power Consumption is 1050W ... Is that 525W per each of the modules?  So will the 3rd one will also require 525W?  That's less than the 0.75W/GHs they are advertising.  What gives?

Lastly -- how's the 5 days of FREE hosting going to work and when does it begin?  How do we provide the pool information?

Thanks in advance to all

Ping... anyone?

[david105396]

The PSU's use 12v (X3: 120A, X1: 12A) and 5volts (5A). This would be 1430-1480 Watts.
Also it needs to be a high quality PSU, not one with cheap parts.

With the free hosting you will receive an IP address and port to log into your miner. You will have full control of it including setting it up with your pool.

[Wookie50]

The PSU's use 12v (X3: 120A, X1: 12A) and 5volts (5A). This would be 1430-1480 Watts.
Also it needs to be a high quality PSU, not one with cheap parts.

With the free hosting you will receive an IP address and port to log into your miner. You will have full control of it including setting it up with your pool.

David, thank you for your response.

Can you recommend a specific brand?  I have a Corsair 1200i but looks like it won't have enough power.  Do  you really need a 1500W PSU to power a single 1TH/s module?

[fivejonnyfive]

I am checking about that, and offering a Gift Card to my store for the equiv value to allow to be ordered on X1 or X3.

So just hoping to clarify this a little bit as I have a single batch 1 X1 ordered:

You'll be offering customers in my situation a gift card for 50% the value of an x1? Do you know if this is going to be applicable only to Black Arrow hardware you sell or could it be used, say, for gridseeds?

Not trying to press the issue - I know you're in the middle on this and I appreciate everything you're doing for your customers. Just trying to clarify and plan accordingly. Big thank you.

[Dot99lr]

I am checking about that, and offering a Gift Card to my store for the equiv value to allow to be ordered on X1 or X3.

So just hoping to clarify this a little bit as I have a single batch 1 X1 ordered:

You'll be offering customers in my situation a gift card for 50% the value of an x1? Do you know if this is going to be applicable only to Black Arrow hardware you sell or could it be used, say, for gridseeds?

Not trying to press the issue - I know you're in the middle on this and I appreciate everything you're doing for your customers. Just trying to clarify and plan accordingly. Big thank you.

Or perhaps allow them to be sold?  I would split a 50% discount with someone to get 2 miners.   ie...

Someone ordered a single X-1, but cannot afford or chooses not to buy another X-1.  In this scenario, the customer would get nothing based on the current model.  If they were allowed to be sold, I pay customer 1 some agreed upon amount, then use his discount to buy an X-1 and get 2 shipped to me.  I would buy up all I could in this scenario and be a happy customer.

That might be interesting. BA should consider this, everyone benefits.

[rokshis]

Hey, Bobsag3, you are starting to send refunds today?