Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[dogie]

Hmm I'm struggling over here. I can't get my unit stable at all (BTC guild spamming 20 idle notifications a day...) and I can't upgrade its firmware.

[maxwellga]

Bobsag,

Can you tell me when order #1429 will ship? I spoke with you by phone on the 14th, and you said it should ship by Friday. I have seen no sign of any activity on my order.

thanks

[Trademan1]

A little excitement today.

Go my 2nd X-1 in the mail.

Pulled it out of the box and set it up on my desk plugged the cable into the back of the unit and then into the powerstrip. There was a thunderous electrical crackle and spark and the room went dark.

Looks like the power supply died and popped the circuit breaker along with it.

This is the first piece of electrical equipment I have had die straight out of the box that I can remember. It sure does smell bad!

" However, we have done all preliminary calculations possible right now and due to our design focused on quality including:

-8 layer PCBs

-heatpipe heatsinks

-aluminium case

-included power supply

-long life 4 wire 5000 RPM fans

-genuine parts (capacitors, resistors, mosfets, inductors etc)

-capacitors that cannot not explode "

Do us a favour and open it up and see which of the massively high quality component that justify black arrow shafting us has failed within the psu/miner?

I think what I would do as well is check every other electrical item in your house and see if it has done any damage to other gear you own.
Also, I wouldn't open it up, id get a certified electrician to open it and give a detailed report in writing.
You might need that sort of proof if you want to claim anything from these assholes.
Just my opinion of course.

[Trademan1]

A little excitement today.

Go my 2nd X-1 in the mail.

Pulled it out of the box and set it up on my desk plugged the cable into the back of the unit and then into the powerstrip. There was a thunderous electrical crackle and spark and the room went dark.

Looks like the power supply died and popped the circuit breaker along with it.

This is the first piece of electrical equipment I have had die straight out of the box that I can remember. It sure does smell bad!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gouMnKavDI4

A short video clip of "capacitors that cannot not explode".

Excellent utube demo of what could be happening inside. Another great reason why NOT to open up the unit and get a certified electrician to open it and give a full detailed written report. Also take photos at the same time if possible.
In any claim scenario, you are going to need proof, sorry, your word just wont be enough.
Don't forget to check all other electrical gear at your home that this could have damaged.

[Dallas5]

asked for refund months ago ignored by mine source again & again what legal action can I take

I think a lot of people like you and me have been waiting months for a refund now. I've ordered a lot online, this is definitely my worst shopping experience.

[ghcannon]

Who was the guy putting up a lawsuit ? Can somebody point me ?

[Hippie Tech]

He has plenty of BTC for advertising..

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=586898.0

[heslo]

Ah, obviously that's where our refunds are headed

[fivejonnyfive]

He has plenty of BTC for advertising..

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=586898.0

Minersource is a reseller, not the manufacturer. They've honored refund requests with store credit at their own expense, not sure if their still doing that now that shipping is sort of ongoing.
If you've had issues getting in touch with them try emailing [email protected] or their phone number is on the website. I've always at least gotten a response. Hope that helps.

[Dot99lr]

Bobsag or Thomas_s, any idea of next shipment from BA? Thanks.

[Hippie Tech]

He has plenty of BTC for advertising..

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=586898.0

Minersource is a reseller, not the manufacturer. They've honored refund requests with store credit at their own expense, not sure if their still doing that now that shipping is sort of ongoing.
If you've had issues getting in touch with them try emailing [email protected] or their phone number is on the website. I've always at least gotten a response. Hope that helps.

I'm sure you have, Mr. Ponzi Shill.

@ all

bobsag3, aka. borito4 is one of the relatively few to have graced this forum with a scammer tag.

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=603586.msg6654786#msg6654786

They are mining with YOUR gear.

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=640010.0

[ninjaboon]

last BA update:
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/bitcoin-miners-progress-update-06-july-2014.html

Only 11 days left for July and I have a feeling my X3 will only arrive in Oct....sucks.

[xstr8guy]

A little excitement today.

Go my 2nd X-1 in the mail.

Pulled it out of the box and set it up on my desk plugged the cable into the back of the unit and then into the powerstrip. There was a thunderous electrical crackle and spark and the room went dark.

Looks like the power supply died and popped the circuit breaker along with it.

This is the first piece of electrical equipment I have had die straight out of the box that I can remember. It sure does smell bad!

" However, we have done all preliminary calculations possible right now and due to our design focused on quality including:

-8 layer PCBs

-heatpipe heatsinks

-aluminium case

-included power supply

-long life 4 wire 5000 RPM fans

-genuine parts (capacitors, resistors, mosfets, inductors etc)

-capacitors that cannot not explode "

Do us a favour and open it up and see which of the massively high quality component that justify black arrow shafting us has failed within the psu/miner?

I think what I would do as well is check every other electrical item in your house and see if it has done any damage to other gear you own.
Also, I wouldn't open it up, id get a certified electrician to open it and give a detailed report in writing.
You might need that sort of proof if you want to claim anything from these assholes.
Just my opinion of course.

Right, because paying a certified electrician to make a detailed report on a now virtually worthless mining device makes a lot of sense? 

[sirsmokesalot]

If Blackarrow wasn't a bullshit company, you would think they would ship out what ever http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/40ghash-16x-bitfury-hashing-board.html they have in stock to those that are waiting and willing. I am telling you, i can't fuckin prove it, but it is the ONLY logical solution. They went ahead and made those miners, figured they could mine with them and announce one delay, most people in the crypto world would accept that and not complain much, nature of the beast. Shit got out of hand for them, they dropped the ball, now they fucked over a bunch of people. I surely hope a fate worse than death befalls any scumbag who had their hands involved in this.

[sirsmokesalot]

If Blackarrow wasn't a bullshit company, you would think they would ship out what ever http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/40ghash-16x-bitfury-hashing-board.html they have in stock to those that are waiting and willing. I am telling you, i can't fuckin prove it, but it is the ONLY logical solution. They went ahead and made those miners, figured they could mine with them and announce one delay, most people in the crypto world would accept that and not complain much, nature of the beast. Shit got out of hand for them, they dropped the ball, now they fucked over a bunch of people. I surely hope a fate worse than death befalls any scumbag who had their hands involved in this.

that's normal, they need to make the money come in

notice that the price is quite ok for this product
(that's normal, surely a lot of BTC has been mined with and it might cost them nothing)

it's not the same for our over priced X3s we payed looongtime ago

how a company can sell direct order cheaper than preorders ??

answer: the cheap direct order product cost them nothing and it already made a lot of BTC

welcome in the BA world ...

this makes me sick... how they can do it just in front of us ?
they screwed us and they show us how well it was ...  

Yeah, it is "normal" just like delaying a product for 6 months is "normal". These aren't normal circumstances we are under.

Just because it says 1000 bucks and it is down to 50 doesn't mean it is awesome pricing. You still need a few other pieces to get them to work. They simply will not sell if they charge more given what is out there right now.

My whole point is, people are waiting for hardware to hash with. They have hardware to hash with. If they cared at all, and weren't a fucking scam, they would offer something.

[itod]

Is there something wrong with their pricing model?

It's the current market price (0.002 BTC / GHs).

Almost the same price has AntMiner S3 shipping in a week:
https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140704023505485N5SxDMkW0693
Actually, AntiMiner is 0.0015 BTC / GHs, but there's a possibility it may ship in two weeks, which makes for this 25% price difference. Both of these products are very robust and energy efficient.

Whoever pays more than 0.002 BTC / GHs for miner shipping today obviously haven't done his homework.

[sirsmokesalot]

they dump their old miners cause they've got the new ones to mine with

and then this will become the X3 's and the X2 product (when they have suck all of the out of this shit)
backplane was a shitty reason they found to delay the delivery of their boards while they hashing



I hope the whole building will collapse on them with a giant hearthquake
(just after they send all the orders   )

Ain't that the truth! I personally have no issue buying a miner after it has been used for a while, as long as the company is transparent about things.

I am mostly curious about the black arrow boards the bitfury chips are on. When did they have the time to make those up? Was that during the time they should have been working on designing the machines they were taking preorders on?

[eXOBeX]

Bobsag,

Can you tell me when order #1429 will ship? I spoke with you by phone on the 14th, and you said it should ship by Friday. I have seen no sign of any activity on my order.

thanks

BA haven't even moved on the #800-series orders yet, so don't hold your breath.

A little excitement today.

Go my 2nd X-1 in the mail.

Pulled it out of the box and set it up on my desk plugged the cable into the back of the unit and then into the powerstrip. There was a thunderous electrical crackle and spark and the room went dark.

Looks like the power supply died and popped the circuit breaker along with it.

This is the first piece of electrical equipment I have had die straight out of the box that I can remember. It sure does smell bad!

No surprise there. Probably the cheapest, shittiest power supplies from Lucky Golden Rabbit Electric Co., Ltd or whatever it was. Back in February they asked the PSU suppliers to reduce the physical size of the unit, trimming the safety margins on a unit that, like so much other turfed out from China, probably had no margins to start with.

Ordered in November, it's July. They're taking the piss to a whole new level.

[sirsmokesalot]

Bobsag,

Can you tell me when order #1429 will ship? I spoke with you by phone on the 14th, and you said it should ship by Friday. I have seen no sign of any activity on my order.

thanks

BA haven't even moved on the #800-series orders yet, so don't hold your breath.

lol, they haven't even hit orders in the 100's yet, or at least is the assumption i can make as i am sitting on an order about halfway into 100's, and another in the 300s.

[sirsmokesalot]

People on their forums are reporting that their miners are being shipped, even though their orders have been canceled after they have requested refunds.

That actually makes sense as to why the orders in the 100s aren't being touched yet. Ship out the orders of the people requesting refunds first, so you don't have to refund them. Then ship out orders for people who don't say anything, as they have most likely given up.