NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[NxtChg]

100k missing in marketing account and no one cares?!

Let's panic.

[Damelon]

There is 200 Nxt especially for the conf. Other coins could be borrowed from the same acc from NxtMarketing, but it would be nice to give them back, because conferences have too high budget. There is already a loan for the radio spot (currently 250k). In past there were big discussions about funds, so I quickly published this acc, where I already had 100k before CFB's donation, so then I sent them to the different account.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgAGADgnQcrtdHRrV3V3Z1lzOXVEMWtqdElUaEtqV1E#gid=15

Can you tell the community to which account you have sent 100k please thank you

please quote me he has me on ignore

have to quote myself:

100k missing in marketing account and no one cares?!

I think you are getting a bit overly worked up at the moment, even if the question is valid...

Can we have an answer to this, please?

Tempers are running a bit hot today.  

[bitcoinpaul]

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 In past there were big discussions about funds, so I quickly published this acc, where I already had 100k before CFB's donation, so then I sent them to the different account.

[pinarello]

There is 200 Nxt especially for the conf. Other coins could be borrowed from the same acc from NxtMarketing, but it would be nice to give them back, because conferences have too high budget. There is already a loan for the radio spot (currently 250k). In past there were big discussions about funds, so I quickly published this acc, where I already had 100k before CFB's donation, so then I sent them to the different account.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgAGADgnQcrtdHRrV3V3Z1lzOXVEMWtqdElUaEtqV1E#gid=15

Can you tell the community to which account you have sent 100k please thank you

please quote me he has me on ignore

have to quote myself:

100k missing in marketing account and no one cares?!

I think you are getting a bit overly worked up at the moment, even if the question is valid...

Can we have an answer to this, please?

Tempers are running a bit hot today.  

no what answer?

[pinarello]

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 In past there were big discussions about funds, so I quickly published this acc, where I already had 100k before CFB's donation, so then I sent them to the different account.

and that is just fine?

I asked what account !

salsa answer me

[salsacz]

There is 200 Nxt especially for the conf. Other coins could be borrowed from the same acc from NxtMarketing, but it would be nice to give them back, because conferences have too high budget. There is already a loan for the radio spot (currently 250k). In past there were big discussions about funds, so I quickly published this acc, where I already had 100k before CFB's donation, so then I sent them to the different account.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgAGADgnQcrtdHRrV3V3Z1lzOXVEMWtqdElUaEtqV1E#gid=15

Can you tell the community to which account you have sent 100k please thank you

please quote me he has me on ignore

have to quote myself:

100k missing in marketing account and no one cares?!

[DrearyUrbanite]

Are DGEX going to be lowering the fee to cashouts to your nxt account?

Either that or I believe they will go out of business.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Btw, I don't see Salsa's salary in that Google doc. I hope he doesn't work for free, this is not what I expected when sent 250k.

[Passion_ltc]

salsacz, when nexerns client is published for a few days and we filled the subreddit /r/Nxt with many quality links, I want to start a reddit ad campaign.

http://de.reddit.com/wiki/selfserve
http://www.reddit.com/ad_inq

I will create pictures, other users can create pictures as well. We get 1000 views for 0,75$. We can target specific subreddits like /r/Bitcoin with 100k user or /r/litecoin with 18k user. But we can also target the whole frontpage.

For only 75$ or 1000 NXT we could create 100k views. From interested persons or from every person world wide.

I think it would be nice if we can get a minimum of 24.000 NXT for this. I would use 250 NXT per week to generate about 20000 views each week. In the beginning only on cryptocurrency subreddits. Later I would rotate it, so the "normal" ppl see the ad also.

This campaign I would run for 2 years. What do you guys think?

[landomata]

salsacz, when nexerns client is published for a few days and we filled the subreddit /r/Nxt with many quality links, I want to start a reddit ad campaign.

http://de.reddit.com/wiki/selfserve
http://www.reddit.com/ad_inq

I will create pictures, other users can create pictures as well. We get 1000 views for 0,75$. We can target specific subreddits like /r/Bitcoin with 100k user or /r/litecoin with 18k user. But we can also target the whole frontpage.

For only 75$ or 1000 NXT we could create 100k views. From interested persons or from every person world wide.

I think it would be nice if we can get a minimum of 24.000 NXT for this. I would use 250 NXT per week to generate about 20000 views each week. In the beginning only on cryptocurrency subreddits. Later I would rotate it, so the "normal" ppl see the ad also.

This campaign I would run for 2 years. What do you guys think?

GOOD IDEA!

[bitcoinpaul]

salsacz, when nexerns client is published for a few days and we filled the subreddit /r/Nxt with many quality links, I want to start a reddit ad campaign.

http://de.reddit.com/wiki/selfserve
http://www.reddit.com/ad_inq

I will create pictures, other users can create pictures as well. We get 1000 views for 0,75$. We can target specific subreddits like /r/Bitcoin with 100k user or /r/litecoin with 18k user. But we can also target the whole frontpage.

For only 75$ or 1000 NXT we could create 100k views. From interested persons or from every person world wide.

I think it would be nice if we can get a minimum of 24.000 NXT for this. I would use 250 NXT per week to generate about 20000 views each week. In the beginning only on cryptocurrency subreddits. Later I would rotate it, so the "normal" ppl see the ad also.

This campaign I would run for 2 years. What do you guys think?

I don't think we should plan spending 2 years for reddit ads. In a few month, NXT is known (or not).

Maybe a short campaign (3 month)? After that, we decide again?

[MtheK]

Hello Guys,
I published the first alpha version of my Android App "NXT Watcher".
See https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2588.0.html for further details and install instructions.

Screenshot to get a first impression of how it looks like:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1304372/NXTWatcher/Screenshots/NXTWatcher2.png

I need a lot help testing on different devices, especially Gingerbread and Honeycomb!

So if you own an Android device, follow the link above and please provide some feedback

Additionally there is a 1k bounty for providing a good looking, Android-ready laucher logo for the app -- two guys working on it already.


And now the obligate NXT signature  :
If you like it, you are welcome to donate a few NXT to keep me motivated
6887853321138092071

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1304372/NXTWatcher/Screenshots/NXTWatcher1.png


NXT Watcher version 0.2.1 is out!

Now you can directly compare different exchanges by overlapping the charts,
additionally I added Vircurex.com!

Have fun


=> 6887853321138092071   

Please update to NXT Watcher Version 0.2.2!
Vircurex.com is broken on older versions of NXT Watcher because they changed their API.

[Bitventurer]

salsacz, when nexerns client is published for a few days and we filled the subreddit /r/Nxt with many quality links, I want to start a reddit ad campaign.

http://de.reddit.com/wiki/selfserve
http://www.reddit.com/ad_inq

I will create pictures, other users can create pictures as well. We get 1000 views for 0,75$. We can target specific subreddits like /r/Bitcoin with 100k user or /r/litecoin with 18k user. But we can also target the whole frontpage.

For only 75$ or 1000 NXT we could create 100k views. From interested persons or from every person world wide.

I think it would be nice if we can get a minimum of 24.000 NXT for this. I would use 250 NXT per week to generate about 20000 views each week. In the beginning only on cryptocurrency subreddits. Later I would rotate it, so the "normal" ppl see the ad also.

This campaign I would run for 2 years. What do you guys think?

du hast meine erlaubnis

[Anon136]

what did you think? this may be a dry run for something like letstalkbitcoin in the future. did i make any mistakes? did i say anything false?

I thought that u were going to stay anonymous, but u revealed ur name and ur face.

PS: I didn't listen to the interview coz I don't comprehend English speech.

lol anyone who cared could have figured out my identity. i never guarded it very carefully.

[pocesar]

great, NXT client isn't sending any money, it says "money is sent" but nothing goes out... what gives?

[Passion_ltc]

salsacz, when nexerns client is published for a few days and we filled the subreddit /r/Nxt with many quality links, I want to start a reddit ad campaign.

http://de.reddit.com/wiki/selfserve
http://www.reddit.com/ad_inq

I will create pictures, other users can create pictures as well. We get 1000 views for 0,75$. We can target specific subreddits like /r/Bitcoin with 100k user or /r/litecoin with 18k user. But we can also target the whole frontpage.

For only 75$ or 1000 NXT we could create 100k views. From interested persons or from every person world wide.

I think it would be nice if we can get a minimum of 24.000 NXT for this. I would use 250 NXT per week to generate about 20000 views each week. In the beginning only on cryptocurrency subreddits. Later I would rotate it, so the "normal" ppl see the ad also.

This campaign I would run for 2 years. What do you guys think?

I don't think we should plan spending 2 years for reddit ads. In a few month, NXT is known (or not).

Maybe a short campaign (3 month)? After that, we decide again?

Or that. 3 months, but generating more views over that time. Then we can see the results and decide. You are right.

[Anon136]

just gave an interview with tai zen it was fun.

Do u have the link?

no he says its going to take a day or two to finish the editing.

I've seen the interview. And we know ur real name. Looks like u should change ur nickname now (Anon136).

what did you think? this may be a dry run for something like letstalkbitcoin in the future. did i make any mistakes? did i say anything false?

I thought you're that ~60 yo guy from your user pick 

Me too

rofl 

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[salsacz]

salsacz, when nexerns client is published for a few days and we filled the subreddit /r/Nxt with many quality links, I want to start a reddit ad campaign.

http://de.reddit.com/wiki/selfserve
http://www.reddit.com/ad_inq

I will create pictures, other users can create pictures as well. We get 1000 views for 0,75$. We can target specific subreddits like /r/Bitcoin with 100k user or /r/litecoin with 18k user. But we can also target the whole frontpage.

For only 75$ or 1000 NXT we could create 100k views. From interested persons or from every person world wide.

I think it would be nice if we can get a minimum of 24.000 NXT for this. I would use 250 NXT per week to generate about 20000 views each week. In the beginning only on cryptocurrency subreddits. Later I would rotate it, so the "normal" ppl see the ad also.

This campaign I would run for 2 years. What do you guys think?

well, there is a logical problem:

250 (nxt) x 100 (weeks) = 25.000 - this would be OK, but that would also mean that this campaign is worthless, because Nxt would still be 0.00008 Btc

So yes I agree, if you want to manage reddit for 250/week, especially if in 2 months it would cost 100 Nxt / week thanks to better price for Nxt
+ we would always provide swarms (30+ people) to help

Or that. 3 months, but generating more views over that time. Then we can see the results and decide. You are right.

probably better, lets the manager decide

[opticalcarrier]

I have no problems with someone being critical about funds, but as regards to marketing a critical mistake is made: it's treated the same as a technical funding.

When you fund a technical or development effort, it's easy to put measurable parameters: "If we spend X, we expect to get Y" and that is cold hard fact.

With marketing, especially at the start, this is very hard to do, and sometimes downright silly. Anyone who has any experience looking at marketing analytics knows that at some point you just can't say: "X happened because of Y".

That means that sometimes money is spent unnneccessarily. That's what bad marketeers do! And most people, I am sad to say, tend to judge marketing and PR by that standard.

The other side is, that marketing gets subjected to over-auditing.

I believe in this case, this is happening. I'll be blunt: if people want hard facts on what the result of marketing efforts like LTB minutes and conferences would be, you won't be able to get them. I can tell you that if you don't get good people out there, Nxt has a major problem.

Take the Miami conference. If you'd have audited Nifty and JustaBit up front about numbers, that would have been silly. Even now, when we know that they have made very good contacts, it's still silly. All they can say at this moment is that things are in the pipeline. If you take the hard line now, you'd say: "you don't get funding, because you don't have results". And that would mean they wouldn't be able to get those results.

I sense a large amount of distrust towards the marketing efforts from some corners. Distrust is something different from critical questions.

I'll be blunt once more: marketing at this point needs trust up front. That means funding without too many questions, based on the fact that you know some people who know what they are doing are taking care of it. I put it to you that some developers in here would get blind funding because of their reputation and there wouldn't be as many questions asked as there are of marketing.

Also, from a "division of power" perspective, I would be less than happy if the person who does the audit also is the person who takes the end decision about actual spending. That is putting jury and judge together.

I'm not going to beg for PR funds, but I do want people to know that I really dislike being put in a place where I feel I have to defend my talents and job and explain I'm not evil.

+1

Those who are skeptical of funding marketing: ask yourself, where would NXT be without the work we've done already? People don't just randomly discover yet another cryptocurrency.
Just look at how reluctant the exchange has been about adding NXT because it requires a bit of additional work, yet we have got more to add us, which has lead to a big increase in users.

Look at all the info we have got out there which has made people trust NXT whereas just 1 month ago the consensus in the crypto world was that NXT was a premined scam. We have managed to turn this image around to "One of the most exciting developements in crypto".

We got a ton of projects upcoming and we've basically only got started.
Look at Ethereum, just look at the amount of marketing they have done and how they are repeaing attention for it. Without having really proved anything they got A LOT of people interested.


There is really no reason for the funds to just sit there and do nothing. Let's actually spend them on making the community bigger and NXT more known to everyone.

I'm voicing my opinion here and agreeing that marketing seems to be undervalued and those involved perhaps under-appreciated.

My out of pocket expenses for a fast secure server for NXT($149 USD / month) and paid advertising and hours away from billable work is costing me too much. Honestly, I may need to pull back from my efforts if something doesn't change. I have given you a very developed and active Facebook page and Twitter account which I believe have very positively helped spread the word about NXT to the community outside of these forums. In fact, I have stats to prove that. I have given you original art. And I hope I've contributed positively to the marketing conversations. I haven't taken very much time to wander around asking for NXT donations or spouting what I do, but the few times I have there has been almost no response. The NXT that has been contributed to my efforts would have to reach a very high price to cover my costs. I had hoped to double my purchased NXT through my marketing efforts and at times wonder if I should have just bought more instead of investing out of pocket in these expenses. But I'm an idealist and a believer in the cause. If I abandon my marketing efforts, I won't do it bitterly—I'll do it when I can't justify the expense.

Qbtc is rreferring to the www.nxtcrypto.org site.  She should not have to pay the fefees out of pocket.  Come on people.  Same for joefox on wiki and btc24 on forums and intel for info/download.

Marketing fund.

[Damelon]

what did you think? this may be a dry run for something like letstalkbitcoin in the future. did i make any mistakes? did i say anything false?

I thought that u were going to stay anonymous, but u revealed ur name and ur face.

PS: I didn't listen to the interview coz I don't comprehend English speech.

lol anyone who cared could have figured out my identity. i never guarded it very carefully.

Just want to add my congratulations, too.
Very clearly explained and nice to see a face to Nxt