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[TwitchySeal]

Classic Twitchy. When someone has a different opinion than you, the person must be a shill for X or Y.
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On Betcoin.

I am “Vae Victis” there.

Ok, now I know who you are and am pretty confident that you're not a paid shill or alt account of Xiao or Betcoin.
Can you really blame me for being suspicious?  I would be a fool not to be.  This is Betcoin we're talking about here.

If you think I am siding with Xiao, I have no side but only the poker players’ one.

Then we are on the same side.

All of your questions concerning Xiao’s personal deal have nothing to do with the poker players. It does not matter how much he has on Casino/Sportsbook, how much he makes and so on.

As I said once again in my post, players can be disappointed that he has no pull on Betcoin policies considering his special relationship. And I have been myself quite a critic towards him for that. But past that, you just have to treat him as your random poker affiliate.

What does it mean ? At the end of the day for the poker players the only question is: does this affiliate deliver on what he is offering ?
The Answer is: yes.

Xiao has personally endorsed Betcoin for over 2 years now as a poker player and member of this community.  When there's any discussion about Bitcoin Poker, he pretends to be an impartial third party and makes posts like this one and this one.   He also has his own threads on multiple sites/subforums that he has been spamming only good things about Betcoin for years now.

He tries to gain trust by acting as if his "rakeback service" is motivated by his generosity and selfless desire to do good for Bitcoin and Online Poker as a whole.  He want's everyone to trust him and believe he is only promoting Betcoin because of how great they are not because of the amount of money he's made and stands to make in the future.  So he lies and tells people he barely makes any money from his players sports/casino action because they only play poker.

When I started posting the reality of Betcoin last year, (from the BBJP, to the missing VIP rewards to the over charged rake and constant lies) he handled it similar to how Betcoin did.  Ignore the situation.  If that doesn't work make the situation seem like really no big deal.  If that doesn't work lie about the situation and attack the credibility of whoever is complaining.

According to Xiao, I'm mentally ill, a retard, brain dead, a degenerate, a dos attacker, an "abuser of trust" (still dunno what he means there), and when other people complain about Betcoin - he there's a good chance he'll declare they are just me using alt accounts.  

He says all this stuff because he doesn't want people to believe what I say and he won't have a reasonable discussion about the issues for the same reason Betcoin won't.  There's no excuse for their behavior.  

Xiao and NiceSoft, over 2 years ago:

reg'd looking forward to playing as soon as i get my coins

Great, make sure to pm me if you have any issues.  I am sort of like an unofficial ambassador to Betcoin.  I know they are kind of overwhelmed right now from support.

[TwitchySeal]

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Yeah Junko.

Good lookin out for all those people who play on Betcoin but don't care about Betcoins scummy behavior and also don't want to have to go to Betcoins website or forum or twitter to hear about any news or updates about Betcoin.

Scumbag.

[Betcoin.AG]

We are contemplating a self moderated thread in order to more effectively address the issues of our great players as many questions are lost in the spam comments and remarks.  

On the the one hand it will allow us to focus on assisting players, but on the other our thread won't be bumped as much which always helps us attract more visitors.  

Any thoughts are appreciated.  

I would be in favor of a self-moderated thread for the reasons you mentioned. It would also make it easier for those of us who are already well aware (or not well aware, but don't care anyways) of all the issues regarding the site which people have concerns about to not have to scroll through all the same old stuff over and over and over again just to see if there are any new updates or news regarding the site and the games.

The campaign thread is so much more better and less cluttered ever since it became self-moderated. XiaoXiao's affiliate thread is much more useful and coherent for his rakers.

Allow those who feel the need to continuously remind everyone and keep people - new and old - aware of what they perceive to be egregious misdeeds and scammery by betcoin.ag to do so in their own threads as much as they want, to their heart's content. They have every right to do so, just as you have every right to create a new self-moderated thread.

It would also make it easier for those interested in the nefarious goings on of betcoin.ag to keep up to date on things or post their own updates and findings/evidence by checking out the thread(s) of those who wish to inform people of such things and not have to scroll through stuff they aren't interested in such as site updates, tourney info, affiliate offerings or shill posts. Their threads will be just as easily visible as yours for people who might be interested either way. A win for betcoin.ag, a win for betcoin haters and those with a personal agenda, a win for those wishing to keep the community informed of betcoin's bad behavior, a win for players, a win for prospective players, a win for all.

As far as your self-moddded thread not getting bumped as much, I think it would be fair to post anything you feel your customers would be interested in knowing, such as any important updates, promotions, significant/new tournaments, important dates, issues, player news, improvements, resolutions, etc just as you currently do now in addition to dealing with customer's issues, questions, grievances and feedback.

Excellent feedback.  Many Bitcointalk members and staff have urged us to do this for months.  This thread is now closed. 

Here is our poker lobby when Betcoin Poker first launched just under 3 years ago, we have come a long way but there is still a long way to go.  Thank you everyone for your support: