Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[Tash]

This scamdemic is done
President of Croatia
https://youtu.be/cXTGgup_Yto

[bakasabo]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/20/health/covid-children-vaccine-pfizer.html

FDA says children, ages 5-11 can take Pfizer's Covid vaccine in low doses.

I also can't imagine being dumb enough to give a child a Covid vaccine for which they are at virtually no risk. The idea of inoculating hundreds of millions of kids all over the world over a virus that poses almost no risk to them just so the adults can feel safe is paranoia and fear taken to another level. Being afraid of a small child, what a world we live in.

I might be paranoiac, but since at schools they start to run tests and kids get positive results, I can not agree with "virtually no risk".

I assume that this is just mass media making things worse or someone else, but here is how situation looks in my country. It was mentioned that children at the age younger than 12 years should not take vaccine. Now, when the school starts, they run daily/weekly tests. They dont take samples from nose, instead they all spit in a plastic can. In mass media it is mentioned, that almost every school class parallel has one student that is tested positive. Colleagues at work start to work from home because their kids got sick and has high temperature + cough. By looking from the side, someone can make a conclusion that new wave that infect only children has started.

P.S. I am against vaccinating kids. After I have taken second doze, I felt nearly completely destroyed for 2 days with almost 40°c temp. Dont want any kid to go through this.

[Natsuu]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/20/health/covid-children-vaccine-pfizer.html

FDA says children, ages 5-11 can take Pfizer's Covid vaccine in low doses.

I also can't imagine being dumb enough to give a child a Covid vaccine for which they are at virtually no risk. The idea of inoculating hundreds of millions of kids all over the world over a virus that poses almost no risk to them just so the adults can feel safe is paranoia and fear taken to another level. Being afraid of a small child, what a world we live in.

I might be paranoiac, but since at schools they start to run tests and kids get positive results, I can not agree with "virtually no risk".

I assume that this is just mass media making things worse or someone else, but here is how situation looks in my country. It was mentioned that children at the age younger than 12 years should not take vaccine. Now, when the school starts, they run daily/weekly tests. They dont take samples from nose, instead they all spit in a plastic can. In mass media it is mentioned, that almost every school class parallel has one student that is tested positive. Colleagues at work start to work from home because their kids got sick and has high temperature + cough. By looking from the side, someone can make a conclusion that new wave that infect only children has started.

P.S. I am against vaccinating kids. After I have taken second doze, I felt nearly completely destroyed for 2 days with almost 40°c temp. Dont want any kid to go through this.

In other words;

1. The Covid is not a joke
2. Kids can be infected by covid
3. Children has low immune system making them candidates to acquire major symptoms
4. Less research has been conducted for childrens with regards to covid so many unforeseen events may occur

Trust the experts everyone, they didn't study years of no sleep for nothing.

[Gyfts]

In other words;

1. The Covid is not a joke
2. Kids can be infected by covid
3. Children has low immune system making them candidates to acquire major symptoms
4. Less research has been conducted for childrens with regards to covid so many unforeseen events may occur

Trust the experts everyone, they didn't study years of no sleep for nothing.

Children are not overly susceptible to Covid, their immune systems are not part of the equation. The death rate over 1.5 years for Covid is lower than the flu for children, so tell me what the risk actually is? How far would you like to go, because if we are using the average flu season as a measure, there wasn't a lot of paranoia and fear dominating media headlines.

Less vaccination studies have been conducted on children too, but we have the data for child deaths pertaining to Covid, and the average kid has a higher chance of dying in a car wreck than dying from Covid.

And surely we do not strap helmets to children every time we take them for a car ride.

[franky1]

Children are not overly susceptible to Covid, their immune systems are not part of the equation. The death rate over 1.5 years for Covid is lower than the flu for children, so tell me what the risk actually is? How far would you like to go, because if we are using the average flu season as a measure, there wasn't a lot of paranoia and fear dominating media headlines.

Less vaccination studies have been conducted on children too, but we have the data for child deaths pertaining to Covid, and the average kid has a higher chance of dying in a car wreck than dying from Covid.

And surely we do not strap helmets to children every time we take them for a car ride.

for kids its not about death rate..
the understanding of vaccinating kids is more about preventing high viral load/spread.

meaning instead of kids still going school because they are fit enough, but then breathing on others in high load amounts to then pass it around. a vaccination lowers the viral load so less passes around and thus less then spreads around the community.

while you are concerned about say kids dying in car accidents. though the death rate is low, you have to understand this rate is low because they dont allow kids to drive until they are 16.
so there are actually restrictions to prevent death related to car accidents that you are not thinking about.

in this instance using your comparison. a vaccination is comparable to the driving permit age limit. not to save kids from dying. but to save other pedestrians and other road users from getting hit due to the actions of a kid

[Tash]

No shit
"reports from Israel suggest INCREASED RISK OF SEVERE DISEASE amongst those vaccinated early".
https://twitter.com/i/status/1440288590521516042

Apparently there is a damning report from a German Pathological institute on its way.


Dead after million cuts

[BADecker]

^^^ Sign you up to what? To get more vaccines?     

[n0nce]

Anyway, I already pinned 50% of doctors as being the Grim Reaper in disguise before the plandemic.  Now it's up around 90%.  So I'll just do my own work...

The only time the white coat to ever see me ever again is some kind of serious accident.

You guys are very confusing. First, you say most doctors are indoctrinated. Then you quote doctors that say the pandemic is fake, so those are somehow not indoctrinated even though they had the same 'indoctrinating' education. And lastly, you do want to trust a doctor with your life when you have a serious accident, so they're not so bad after all? You do know what kind of medicines and 'chemicals' get 'injeccted' into your precious, brittle little bodies that can't move for 10 minutes after an injection, when you're lying on an operation table after a serious accident?

[KingsDen]

Before the issue of trust is raised, my major concerns are below;
1. Can one still be affected even after being vaccinated?
2. Are there extreme side effects of the vaccination?
3. Is there any conspiracy behind the vaccination?
4. Are the vaccines tested extensively and proven good?
5. Do you trust the government?
In number 5, there are some holy books that said subjects should obey the leaders. So, if we do not trust the government or maybe suspecting they will kill us all, it's very bad.
6. Covid-19 is not country base, if there be a conspiracy it should be an international conspiracy. To what end then? Trusting the vaccine will depend largely on your answers above.

[n0nce]

6. Covid-19 is not country base, if there be a conspiracy it should be an international conspiracy. To what end then? Trusting the vaccine will depend largely on your answers above.

This point is very interesting and common in most conspiracies, like 'chemtrails', 'fake global warming' etc.
They give politicians and influential people of the world way too much credit They really expect everybody to collaborate - from communist to capitalist countries, between countries in freaking war, every last scientist collecting data independently etc., without anyone slipping and revealing the 'master plan' to the 'sheeples' that are all of us ^^
Man, even the EU isn't able to work out things together and it's less than 20 states, and they don't have to keep everything secret while doing it..

[Tash]

Bam
Why a Doctor in Alberta with a masters from harvard refuses to be shot death with the mRNA toxin injection.
https://www.jccf.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Sep-15-FINAL-PAYNE-CPSA-letter.pdf

Natural immunity from SARS-CoV-2 is more durable and robust than the partial immunity achieved from the current mRNA vaccines

[Lordhermes]

I have not been vaccinated,but I have the belief that the Vaccine is good enough to cure anyone sick of the dreaded disease called covid19.Government cannot bring out or produce a drugs that will not totally cure a sickness,and tell the whole world that the cure is gotten.I believe before showing the world about it,it must have been tested and verified that it is good to go.So it is trusted by me.

[Hamich124D]

Damn the misinformation being thrown around here is insane ! well its a bitcoin forum after all dunno what i expected.

I have not been vaccinated,but I have the belief that the Vaccine is good enough to cure anyone sick of the dreaded disease called covid19.Government cannot bring out or produce a drugs that will not totally cure a sickness,and tell the whole world that the cure is gotten.I believe before showing the world about it,it must have been tested and verified that it is good to go.So it is trusted by me.

Vaccines don't cure anything,it's a prevention measure you take the vaccin before getting sick so when you get the actual virus your body will be much more prepared against it
im sure you know that...right ?

Bam
Why a Doctor in Alberta with a masters from harvard refuses to be shot death with the mRNA toxin injection.
https://www.jccf.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Sep-15-FINAL-PAYNE-CPSA-letter.pdf

Natural immunity from SARS-CoV-2 is more durable and robust than the partial immunity achieved from the current mRNA vaccines

What about all the other doctors and scientists around the world who actually took the vaccin ? why are just chosing to focus on this one ?

1. Can one still be affected even after being vaccinated?

Yes.

2. Are there extreme side effects of the vaccination?

No.The possible side effects are what you would expect from any vaccin (Tiredness,Headache,Muscle pain,Chills,Fever,Nausea....)

4. Are the vaccines tested extensively and proven good?

Read people read

3. Is there any conspiracy behind the vaccination?
5. Do you trust the government?
6. Covid-19 is not country base, if there be a conspiracy it should be an international conspiracy. To what end then? Trusting the vaccine will depend largely on your answers above.

Uhhhhhh

[Tash]

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What about all the other doctors and scientists around the world who actually took the vaccin ? why are just chosing to focus on this one ?

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You mean the scientist in the sig (Scientists and vaccines)?

[BADecker]

Damn the misinformation being thrown around here is insane ! well its a bitcoin forum after all dunno what i expected.

I have not been vaccinated,but I have the belief that the Vaccine is good enough to cure anyone sick of the dreaded disease called covid19.Government cannot bring out or produce a drugs that will not totally cure a sickness,and tell the whole world that the cure is gotten.I believe before showing the world about it,it must have been tested and verified that it is good to go.So it is trusted by me.

Vaccines don't cure anything,it's a prevention measure you take the vaccin before getting sick so when you get the actual virus your body will be much more prepared against it
im sure you know that...right ?

Actually, all the vaxxes do is make the people think that they are healed or protected. Their protection comes from what they believe, a form of placebo effect.

Bam
Why a Doctor in Alberta with a masters from harvard refuses to be shot death with the mRNA toxin injection.
https://www.jccf.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Sep-15-FINAL-PAYNE-CPSA-letter.pdf

Natural immunity from SARS-CoV-2 is more durable and robust than the partial immunity achieved from the current mRNA vaccines

What about all the other doctors and scientists around the world who actually took the vaccin ? why are just chosing to focus on this one ?

I don't think we can get links about all the other doctors. But go thru all these videos - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ - to see what a bunch of doctors from around the world think.

1. Can one still be affected even after being vaccinated?

Yes.

It's kinda like those people who haven't been vaxxed, and still can't be infected... without being vaxxed.

Does anybody have a study where test subjects (people) were injected with pure Covid and got sick from it?

2. Are there extreme side effects of the vaccination?

No.The possible side effects are what you would expect from any vaccin (Tiredness,Headache,Muscle pain,Chills,Fever,Nausea....)

4. Are the vaccines tested extensively and proven good?

Read people read

But VAERS shows death in loads of vaxx cases - https://openvaers.com/, https://openvaers.com/covid-data, https://openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf.

3. Is there any conspiracy behind the vaccination?
5. Do you trust the government?
6. Covid-19 is not country base, if there be a conspiracy it should be an international conspiracy. To what end then? Trusting the vaccine will depend largely on your answers above.

Uhhhhhh

It IS an international conspiracy. The groundwork for it has been being laid for over 100 years.

[Tash]

Myocarditis increased hundred fold after the "vaccine"
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.13.21262182v1.full

[Hamich124D]

Actually, all the vaxxes do is make the people think that they are healed or protected.

Are you talking about vaccines in general or just the covid ones ?

Their protection comes from what they believe, a form of placebo effect.

This study and many more others clinical trials will disagree

[Tash]

The same people who think they healthy after vaccination, think they are rich after having a loan approved.

[BADecker]

Actually, all the vaxxes do is make the people think that they are healed or protected.

Are you talking about vaccines in general or just the covid ones ?

Their protection comes from what they believe, a form of placebo effect.

This study and many more others clinical trials will disagree

Studies only do one thing. They prove that the universe works in the ways that those who believe, believe it does.

[Hamich124D]

Actually, all the vaxxes do is make the people think that they are healed or protected.

Are you talking about vaccines in general or just the covid ones ?

Their protection comes from what they believe, a form of placebo effect.

This study and many more others clinical trials will disagree

Studies only do one thing. They prove that the universe works in the ways that those who believe, believe it does.

You should've probably told me that you dont believe in studies/science  in the first place, Our debate would've been much shorter.