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July 10, 2025, 07:20:53 PM
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Why wouldn't a candidate accept cryptocurrencies as a form of donation in the first place? It is a form of payment afterall. Soon enough it will be the only form of payment accepted worldwide the way it's trajectory has been only trending upwards over the past 4-5 years.

The thing that has been grabbing the headlines from this entire AI controversy has been Grok calling itself MechaHitler:
https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-full-nazi-elon-musk-s-ai-chatbot-started-calling-itself-mechahitler-242978885708

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/grok-hitler-elon-musk-antisemitism-rcna217506

Grok calling itself the "MechaHitler" sounds creepy. Imagine if it's put in-charge of Tesla's humanoid robots. Elon Musk would rule the world. It seems our fears are about to become a reality. Elon now wants to integrate Grok on Tesla vehicles and Optimus robots.

More info here:

https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/2874/tesla-to-integrate-xais-grok-into-optimus-helping-bring-the-robot-to-life

https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/10/grok-is-coming-to-tesla-vehicles-next-week-says-elon-musk/

As for Elon's political ambitions, we're yet to see if they're going to be any success. Third-parties often have little-to-no success in US politics. But anything's possible. Accepting Bitcoin as payment method for donations is a good start. I would've wished Elon opened up the doors for other cryptocurrencies to help increase mainstream awareness/recognition. Especially a coin like Dogecoin which is often described as Elon Musk's favorite cryptocurrency. He isn't serious about the old "meme" coin. That's for sure.

Elon didn't even integrate DOGE into X as promised. All words and no action. As a latest attempt to gather attention from the public, Elon Musk announced the launch of Grok 4. The question is: Will the new iteration of Grok live up to its claim of being "better than PhD level in every subject"? Only time will tell.

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July 12, 2025, 12:29:10 PM
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Well elon is more for crypto now then he has ever been, he called fat 'hopeless' when someone asked on X if his proposed political party, the America Party, would “embrace Bitcoin.”

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2025/07/07/elon-musk-says-america-party-will-embrace-btc-as-fiat-is-hopeless



However hes directly going against trump by forming a new party, will he back down again or go all in ? Shocked

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July 13, 2025, 11:32:25 AM
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Why wouldn't a candidate accept cryptocurrencies as a form of donation in the first place? It is a form of payment afterall. Soon enough it will be the only form of payment accepted worldwide the way it's trajectory has been only trending upwards over the past 4-5 years.
The thing that has been grabbing the headlines from this entire AI controversy has been Grok calling itself MechaHitler:
https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/-full-nazi-elon-musk-s-ai-chatbot-started-calling-itself-mechahitler-242978885708
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/grok-hitler-elon-musk-antisemitism-rcna217506
Grok calling itself the "MechaHitler" sounds creepy. Imagine if it's put in-charge of Tesla's humanoid robots. Elon Musk would rule the world. It seems our fears are about to become a reality. Elon now wants to integrate Grok on Tesla vehicles and Optimus robots.
More info here:
https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/2874/tesla-to-integrate-xais-grok-into-optimus-helping-bring-the-robot-to-life
https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/10/grok-is-coming-to-tesla-vehicles-next-week-says-elon-musk/
As for Elon's political ambitions, we're yet to see if they're going to be any success. Third-parties often have little-to-no success in US politics. But anything's possible. Accepting Bitcoin as payment method for donations is a good start. I would've wished Elon opened up the doors for other cryptocurrencies to help increase mainstream awareness/recognition. Especially a coin like Dogecoin which is often described as Elon Musk's favorite cryptocurrency. He isn't serious about the old "meme" coin. That's for sure.
Elon didn't even integrate DOGE into X as promised. All words and no action. As a latest attempt to gather attention from the public, Elon Musk announced the launch of Grok 4. The question is: Will the new iteration of Grok live up to its claim of being "better than PhD level in every subject"? Only time will tell.
Grok new version launched yesterday and many are comparing it to the previous version. Problems of course arise from it not recognizing photos to it showing code in it's answers.

But it has voice activation so this is a plus. Hope it doesn't cost the 300 euro per month price point to have this feature because Google's AI already has this activated in Gemini for free:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1944283687677571231

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July 19, 2025, 04:01:36 PM
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Only seen grok interactions on twitter, and been good for X with people using it to confirm thing's,find sources or even conduct giveaways

There maybe some initial bugs but im sure it’ll get better

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Only seen grok interactions on twitter, and been good for X with people using it to confirm thing's,find sources or even conduct giveaways

There maybe some initial bugs but im sure it’ll get better

The most uncensored AI is grok. I do use chatgpt, gemini for my work. But what I found that grok is uncensored. Grok didn't even flick to say something about politic figure. If elon musk still gets connected with chatgpt we could have seen our current AI technology 3x better than this. Instead he choose to build his own AI platform.

Haha he is combining a social media platform with AI.  Grok is constantly learning from X . Since there is millions of people feeding grok. It's sure can rule over in future AI platforms.

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July 20, 2025, 03:27:54 PM
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Only seen grok interactions on twitter, and been good for X with people using it to confirm thing's,find sources or even conduct giveaways
There maybe some initial bugs but im sure it’ll get better
The most uncensored AI is grok. I do use chatgpt, gemini for my work. But what I found that grok is uncensored. Grok didn't even flick to say something about politic figure. If elon musk still gets connected with chatgpt we could have seen our current AI technology 3x better than this. Instead he choose to build his own AI platform.

Haha he is combining a social media platform with AI.  Grok is constantly learning from X . Since there is millions of people feeding grok. It's sure can rule over in future AI platforms.
This is what Musk markets grok as with free speech and does constantly endorse it's fundamentals on X daily.
Wouldn't doubt the censored AI models can only be used for your work. Since the answers grok provides can be very controversial thus not work safe at times.

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July 23, 2025, 01:41:15 AM
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Well elon is more for crypto now then he has ever been, he called fat 'hopeless' when someone asked on X if his proposed political party, the America Party, would “embrace Bitcoin.”

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2025/07/07/elon-musk-says-america-party-will-embrace-btc-as-fiat-is-hopeless

However hes directly going against trump by forming a new party, will he back down again or go all in ? Shocked

He's right, you know. Fiat continues to lose value due to irresponsible practices from both the government and the central bank. The "money printer" continues to go "brrr", without any signs of stopping anytime soon. It's why many (like Elon) believe Bitcoin will ultimately render Fiat obsolete. Or at least, become a better alternative for those seeking a hedge against inflation.

Elon's new political party better embrace Bitcoin as promised. Otherwise, it will lose the votes required to make the difference on both chambers of Congress (and possibly even the White House). It's a risky move from Elon Musk, considering that most "alternative political parties" have failed in the US. The Tea Party, The Libertarian Party, etc, have all failed in gathering enough attention from voters. Would you imagine Bitcoin becoming legal tender in the US under the America Party's leadership? It would be mind-blowing. Unless, Trump and his Republican base do it first. Only time will tell...

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July 23, 2025, 11:19:00 PM
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At the beginning of the week there was several cryptocurrency addresses of Elon Musk's SpaceX company that had been holding a large amount of bitcoin when it was discovered they had moved over $102million worth to an exchange wallet.
https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/07/22/spacex-wallet-springs-to-life-with-153m-bitcoin-transfer-first-move-since-2022

That same bitcoin address still holds 6,977 BTC valued at around $815 million.

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July 24, 2025, 02:13:02 PM
 #729

Trump denies plans to cut subsidies to Elon Musk’s companies,
says he wants Elon and US businesses to THRIVE like never before.



https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1948382787293057088?t=19

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July 27, 2025, 05:06:49 PM
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Trump denies plans to cut subsidies to Elon Musk’s companies,
says he wants Elon and US businesses to THRIVE like never before.

https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1948382787293057088?t=19
Well to be honest Trump has to do something since his approval rating has dropped dramatically in the last month.
But his company World Liberty Finance has been buying up cryptocurrenies in this month so to keep his investors happy.
Elon Musk's own company SpaceX still has a massive holding of bitcoin in it's own portfolio. So both are behind bitcoin and cryptocurrenies and would like to see their use thrive within the United States aswell.

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August 06, 2025, 02:32:03 PM
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Grok 'confirmed' that chances of a quantum computer breaking sha256 in the near future is extremely low

https://99bitcoins.com/news/bitcoin-btc/did-elon-musk-just-blow-the-lid-on-bitcoins-future-heres-why-quantum-computing-wont-kill-sha-256/

The chance remains close to zero over the next five years.” – Grok, xAI
“Even by 2035, the probability is still under 10%.” – Grok, xAI

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August 07, 2025, 07:53:45 PM
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Well to be honest Trump has to do something since his approval rating has dropped dramatically in the last month.
But his company World Liberty Finance has been buying up cryptocurrenies in this month so to keep his investors happy.
Elon Musk's own company SpaceX still has a massive holding of bitcoin in it's own portfolio. So both are behind bitcoin and cryptocurrenies and would like to see their use thrive within the United States aswell.
Massive attacks on Trump do have their effect, the psyops sometimes do work. I don't think Musk's companies have enough Bitcoin though compared to their size. The problem with him is that he is a very unstable and sick person, so his support is always questionable. Today he may support you, tomorrow he may have a breakdown and attack you.

Grok 'confirmed' that chances of a quantum computer breaking sha256 in the near future is extremely low

https://99bitcoins.com/news/bitcoin-btc/did-elon-musk-just-blow-the-lid-on-bitcoins-future-heres-why-quantum-computing-wont-kill-sha-256/

The chance remains close to zero over the next five years.” – Grok, xAI
“Even by 2035, the probability is still under 10%.” – Grok, xAI
Grok like every other model of this kind is just reiterating things that it has found online and mixing it. Therefore any predictions that it makes should be dismissed completely. SHA256 is unlikely to be broken anyway, not even worth asking.


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August 18, 2025, 11:51:32 PM
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Well to be honest Trump has to do something since his approval rating has dropped dramatically in the last month.
But his company World Liberty Finance has been buying up cryptocurrenies in this month so to keep his investors happy.
Elon Musk's own company SpaceX still has a massive holding of bitcoin in it's own portfolio. So both are behind bitcoin and cryptocurrenies and would like to see their use thrive within the United States aswell.
Massive attacks on Trump do have their effect, the psyops sometimes do work. I don't think Musk's companies have enough Bitcoin though compared to their size. The problem with him is that he is a very unstable and sick person, so his support is always questionable. Today he may support you, tomorrow he may have a breakdown and attack you.

Grok 'confirmed' that chances of a quantum computer breaking sha256 in the near future is extremely low
https://99bitcoins.com/news/bitcoin-btc/did-elon-musk-just-blow-the-lid-on-bitcoins-future-heres-why-quantum-computing-wont-kill-sha-256/
The chance remains close to zero over the next five years.” – Grok, xAI
“Even by 2035, the probability is still under 10%.” – Grok, xAI
Grok like every other model of this kind is just reiterating things that it has found online and mixing it. Therefore any predictions that it makes should be dismissed completely. SHA256 is unlikely to be broken anyway, not even worth asking.
That is true. Musk's companies probably do own more bitcoin than Trump's because the ones that are held for the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve are for the government and not him.
From what cryptocurrency wallet trackers have discovered was that his vice president owns more than he does from their investigations.

As for Grok decyphering SHA-256 I don't think it can ever break the code.
From what others have concluded with their use of the latest update Grok 4 it does not work like that.

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August 22, 2025, 03:29:50 PM
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Elon still going to create the 'America Party.'

The Wall Street Journal reported that elon will not do it anymore but he just said that was false



People are expecting this to be big for cyrpto as it would put a soon to be major party very very positively on our side

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August 25, 2025, 11:02:19 AM
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There was some news in relation to Musk wanting to partner with Zuckerberg to acquire ChatGPT's Open AI.

https://x.com/MatthewDR/status/1958854465462870498

Other than that, today is the launch of Starship 10. Grin
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1959730865140871323

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August 25, 2025, 02:22:42 PM
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There was some news in relation to Musk wanting to partner with Zuckerberg to acquire ChatGPT's Open AI.

https://x.com/MatthewDR/status/1958854465462870498

Other than that, today is the launch of Starship 10. Grin
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1959730865140871323

Saw that too a few days back, but not much major reporting since then so either it was fake or very insider story that got killed quickly

Just today in local newspaper there  is article about chatgpt lawyers asking for proof of the same news-

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/chatgpt-lawyers-to-court-order-mark-zuckerberg-to-tell-what-elon-musk-said-he-sought-his-help-to-buy-openai-for-97-billion-read-metas-response/articleshow/123488649.cms

"OpenAI issuing a subpoena to tech rival Meta for documents related to Musk's attempt to acquire the ChatGPT-maker."

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August 27, 2025, 11:35:39 AM
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To continue with the theme of this race of AI, many have seemed to gloss over the news about someone who has four times Elon's wealth and going all in on this emerging technology:

https://futurism.com/uae-sheikh-tahnoon-wealth-ai

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September 05, 2025, 11:41:26 AM
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Well this was interesting.
Trump hosted a dinner last night for all the top ceo's in the technology sector with the likes of Bill Gates & Tim Cook.
But did not invite Elon Musk. Undecided
There must still be some animosity between the two since their fallout publicly on the tech giant's social media platform X.

Here is the video which shows well over fifteen ceo's at this event that was made public on PBS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYyaNm7UqFQ

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September 05, 2025, 01:20:50 PM
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Watching the lately spot about Musk appearing on live tv this weekend for showing what all the hype is about and if he will actually have a mention of his favorite cryptocurrency doge, it seems the media are jumping all over this appearance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWWzszskgmA

What are your thoughts about this North American appearance and what do you think he will do or say about doge or even bitcoin?
I think since Miley Cyrus is the musical guest he will have her dress up as a dog and call her doge. Cheesy
She likes cats and had dressed up as them on stage during her concerts, so you never know what these two crazy people will do on this episode.

He is not at all interested in doing any good to crypto. He cares about increasing his net worth and he can even harm crypto community if that makes him achieve that target.
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September 12, 2025, 09:27:38 PM
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^^
Well he has to do a u-turn if he wants to stay the world's richest man for the fourth year straight.
It was revealed earlier in the week that Larry Ellison of co-founder of Oracle corporation was now the richest person in the world. Well, for a limited time but it was a difference of one billion.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/10/larry-ellison-dislodges-elon-musk-as-worlds-richest-person

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