[ANN] BitMixList.org - Best TradeOgre Alternatives - Bitcoin Mixer List

[dkbit98]

I am quite surprised (pleasantly) at how many people stepped up to make new coordinators after ZKsnacks shut down theirs. Good job guys.

Maybe it's even better situation now than it was in time of ZKsnacks, but I would be careful choosing what coordinators to use.
I don't know if this is possible but government and other malicious actors could create their own coordinator and use it for tracking and monitoring transactions.
It would be good if you could add live tracking to see what coordinator is used the most.

Do you guys think I should list whirlpool dojos too? Not the main one obviously, but others that still work. Are there still any wallets that even use dojos?

Maybe, if people actually use that these days.

[Kruw]

I don't know if this is possible but government and other malicious actors could create their own coordinator and use it for tracking and monitoring transactions.

Coordinators can't track or monitor transactions.

It would be good if you could add live tracking to see what coordinator is used the most.

The Liquisabi bot tracks each coordinator's liquidity: https://x.com/LiquiSabi / npub1u4rl3zlfa2efxslhypf4v6r8va5e0c9smxyr5676pxkyk0chn33s0teswa

[NotATether]

It would be good if you could add live tracking to see what coordinator is used the most.

Live tracking would be very difficult to implement because it requires JS, and it would be unavailable for people who choose to use the website without Javascript. The best I can do is track the websites server-side but that would require me to add PHP and a database to the main domain, and I don't have plans to do that any time soon.

[dkbit98]

Live tracking would be very difficult to implement because it requires JS, and it would be unavailable for people who choose to use the website without Javascript. The best I can do is track the websites server-side but that would require me to add PHP and a database to the main domain, and I don't have plans to do that any time soon.

Maybe you could fetch daily status information from LiquiSabi page on twitter, or other similar sources.
This is not ideal solution and it can't be verified if information on that page is always correct and up to date, but it's still better than nothing.

[examplens]

It would be good if you could add live tracking to see what coordinator is used the most.

Live tracking would be very difficult to implement because it requires JS, and it would be unavailable for people who choose to use the website without Javascript. The best I can do is track the websites server-side but that would require me to add PHP and a database to the main domain, and I don't have plans to do that any time soon.

It would be more logical to expect this kind of information from the current wasabi coordinator tracker like https://wabisator.com
Given that this is at a new beginning, many things still need to be implemented, maybe over time we will get more detailed monitoring from here.

[bitmover]

It would be good if you could add live tracking to see what coordinator is used the most.

Live tracking would be very difficult to implement because it requires JS, and it would be unavailable for people who choose to use the website without Javascript. The best I can do is track the websites server-side but that would require me to add PHP and a database to the main domain, and I don't have plans to do that any time soon.

It would be more logical to expect this kind of information from the current wasabi coordinator tracker like https://wabisator.com
Given that this is at a new beginning, many things still need to be implemented, maybe over time we will get more detailed monitoring from here.

One option would be just to track this file
https://wabisator.com/config.json

It contains basically all information about those coordinators in real time.

If you don't use javascript you would need php. But that wouldn't require a database...

[Wasabist.IO]

It would be good if you could add live tracking to see what coordinator is used the most.

Live tracking would be very difficult to implement because it requires JS, and it would be unavailable for people who choose to use the website without Javascript. The best I can do is track the websites server-side but that would require me to add PHP and a database to the main domain, and I don't have plans to do that any time soon.

It would be more logical to expect this kind of information from the current wasabi coordinator tracker like https://wabisator.com
Given that this is at a new beginning, many things still need to be implemented, maybe over time we will get more detailed monitoring from here.

One option would be just to track this file
https://wabisator.com/config.json

It contains basically all information about those coordinators in real time.

If you don't use javascript you would need php. But that wouldn't require a database...

I have small API as well for WW coordinators: https://wasabist.io
check it out by clicking on API link at the bottom right

[NotATether]

Always verify that your letter of guarantee is from the correct address before you send coins to a mixer. There have been instances where the user receives a letter of guarantee, but it's signed by the wrong address! It is a classic scam attempt so be vigilant.

I might include the signing address of each mixer on the website in the near future.

[icopress]

I decided to add your site to the list. It would be nice if those who view the information could do a parallel check using BitList (as I actually did .. designating BitMixList as a reliable source of information). Anyway it's up to you 

[NotATether]

I decided to add your site to the list. It would be nice if those who view the information could do a parallel check using BitList (as I actually did .. designating BitMixList as a reliable source of information). Anyway it's up to you  

Thank you!

I will need some time to do a site update, as each one takes a few days to complete.

[examplens]

I decided to add your site to the list. It would be nice if those who view the information could do a parallel check using BitList (as I actually did .. designating BitMixList as a reliable source of information). Anyway it's up to you 

Was Bitmixlist launched in 2018, or was it just a typo?

[NotATether]

Was Bitmixlist launched in 2018, or was it just a typo?

Obviously not, I did not even discover Bitcoin until 2019.  

BitMixList was opened on December 2023.

[dkbit98]

Obviously not, I did not even discover Bitcoin until 2019. 

Maybe you performed time traveling?

PS
You should remove WasabiCoordinator and some other coordinators from your website asap!
They are accused of being scammers who tricked people and I see they are removed from other list of coordinators, even wasabi official X account talked about this.
You can check the currently active list on wasabist.io.

[NotATether]

New knowledge update!

Changes include:

- A shiny new dark mode
- Updated logo
- Removed WasabiCoordinator.io
- culled old mirrors (I'm still looking for suitable hosting for the Tor mirror).
- Added warnings next to Whir and Ginger Wallet, for different reasons
- Links back to BitList
- And the big change, now you can verify your letters of guarantee.

This last one is a major coup, and it's going to stop a lot of people from getting scammed if they use it. It is an anti-phishing defense you can use to make sure you are using the correct website.

It supports all major mixers with a few exceptions that are noted on the website.

[icopress]

- And the big change, now you can verify your letters of guarantee.

Great addition!

I'm glad that there is healthy competition between BitList and BitMixList, as it forces these resources to become better.

P.S. Is it possible to make the light version the default?

[LoyceV]

- And the big change, now you can verify your letters of guarantee.

My first thought: that's bad, never upload it anywhere but verify it locally! Then I saw this:

This verification tool runs locally on your browser and does not fetch data or even scripts from other servers.

That does make it convenient, especially since (I tested this) it also checks if the correct address is used for signing). But still, the user can't easily verify whether or not anything gets uploaded, so I'd still prever to verify any signed messages in my own Bitcoin wallet.

[NotATether]

- And the big change, now you can verify your letters of guarantee.

My first thought: that's bad, never upload it anywhere but verify it locally! Then I saw this:

This verification tool runs locally on your browser and does not fetch data or even scripts from other servers.

That does make it convenient, especially since (I tested this) it also checks if the correct address is used for signing). But still, the user can't easily verify whether or not anything gets uploaded, so I'd still prever to verify any signed messages in my own Bitcoin wallet.

You can check in Chrome/Firefox DevTools to see if there are any XHR requests in order to verify that no data is transmitted over the network (besides advertisements).

Most people who are know how to use a mixer are probably aware of devtools, but I'll make sure to explicitly write it out on the website.

- And the big change, now you can verify your letters of guarantee.

Great addition!

I'm glad that there is healthy competition between BitList and BitMixList, as it forces these resources to become better.

P.S. Is it possible to make the light version the default?

To be honest, I don't really see it as competition, as we both need each other. As you can see, I even have Kruw's coordinator listed even though I had called out his behavior a few months ago.

The biggest competition is with the governments, because they are the ones who want to shut all these resources down.

I still have a few more updates to do (offline coordinators, eXch - I'm still mad at how they are defaming me now) so I will probably figure out how to do with the toggle in a few more days.

[NotATether]

Guys, I noticed some time ago that the domain for wizardswap was reported to cloudflare for phishing (wizardswap.io) and it was disabled - I don't know what that was supposed to mean.

But it seems that they have moved the domain over to DDoS-Guard.

So in order to avoid sending users to the domain which may experience interruptions, I have changed all the wizardswap links to their other official domain: wizardswap.pw.

I wonder if they have an ANN thread or some other presence though. All I know is that they have an email,and they are responsive there.

[dkbit98]

- And the big change, now you can verify your letters of guarantee.

One suggestion, can you make a separate page (maybe even a subdomain) for tool to Verify Letter of Guarantee?
Or you could make a button on top with menu that opens this tool directly without any distractions.
Menu navigation could also be used for other purposes.

[JeromeTash]

Guys, I noticed some time ago that the domain for wizardswap was reported to cloudflare for phishing (wizardswap.io) and it was disabled - I don't know what that was supposed to mean.

But it seems that they have moved the domain over to DDoS-Guard.

So in order to avoid sending users to the domain which may experience interruptions, I have changed all the wizardswap links to their other official domain: wizardswap.pw.

I wonder if they have an ANN thread or some other presence though. All I know is that they have an email,and they are responsive there.

I don't know if this helps, but according to their twitter, It looks like they first acquired the wizardswap.pw domain as just an alternative mirror site. About a week after, they got DDoS attacks and the very next day Clouldflare showed both domains as phishing

So It was not only one domain that got affected - https://x.com/WizardSwap_io/status/1803214323264712947