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October 18, 2024, 04:32:54 PM
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bitcoin investment is very risky and so also trading, just because you started your investment with a huge amount of money doesn't mean that "the higher the capital the higher the return", you may loss your fund with blink of an eye, the possibility of earning profit that you have at the back of your mind,
Who Said Bitcoin Investing is very Risky? Investments will involve risk so you have to accept this before investing. If someone before saying these words had properly observed how the price of Bitcoin was in the beginning i.e. after Bitcoin was created and how high it has risen to now, they would probably never say that Bitcoin investment is risky. In 2010, the price of a bitcoin was 0.05 dollars and now in 2024, that is 14 years later, the price of that coin has increased to 73 thousand dollars (ATH). If the price of a coin has rocketed like this since its inception then how can it be risky to invest in that coin. There is a difference between investing and trading, investing and trading are never the same because trading is short-term with the highest chance of losing money. Investments on the other hand are long term so by holding patiently for a long time you can sell it after reaching your target price.
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put at the back of it that there is also a possibility of loosing your money too, that is why it is often said that you should trade with what you can a to lose. Don't be so eager/impatient to make huge profits because it may land you in regret.
In answer to your mentioned statement I would like to say that you should adopt DCA for investment because investing in this method will not require you to have a large amount of money. As a result, you will not have to worry about losing money. Regardless of your income-expenditure, you can invest whatever amount of money you have, i.e. the money left over after meeting your family expenses. Those who invest with the remaining money after meeting their family expenses may not have to worry while investing i.e. they will never worry.

Finally want to say that you are still new i.e. you don't have little knowledge about Bitcoin which is why you are confused. You can visit this link to see a detailed discussion of the history of Bitcoin that applies to you.
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October 18, 2024, 04:46:44 PM
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If this proces is reapeted using $100 in replacement of $10 weekly as regard to fuck you status, the approximately $2500 will be $25000. Now obviously your success depends on your level of accumulation. Meaning the profit increase has not been added yet, if the profit should be added, it could amount to a Total of $30k or $35k
As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, every investor should invest in bitcoin according to how much their discretionary funds can allow them to invest in bitcoin. Even though we are investing in bitcoin, we ought to go on vacation, enjoy life, and learn about other people's way of life. Investors should not invest in bitcoin in a way that they will find it difficult to solve their daily expenses. If $10 is what he can afford to invest in bitcoin every week, encourage him to do better and don't condemn his effort in trying to be among those people who will hold bitcoin, and remember the goal of every investor accumulating bitcoin for long-term is to accumulate the quantity of bitcoin they want to hold no matter how many years it takes them to achieve it. As time goes on, he can work on his income so that there will be a good income flow at the end of every week or month, which will allow him to increase his weekly bitcoin accumulation money.
I was expecting you to say that every investor that is investing in Bitcoin to have a limitation of what the invest so that when the market is against there will not feel disappointed and they will not feel depressed because as a new someone for cryptocurrency investment mostly in Bitcoin you have to know that the risk which is involved in Bitcoin is much and they have to understand that Bitcoin have two things neither you make a profit for the investment or you lose for the investment this things are the major things that is involved in cryptocurrency investment so someone who is investing in Bitcoin so invest for what it can afford to lose not invest what it cannot afford to lose that should be the advice to anyone who is a beginner to bitcoin investment
from the way you are sounding I don't think you are talking about Bitcoin, this statement of investing what one can afford to lose is not for Bitcoin, this statement is used for shitcoins and traders, as a long time Bitcoin investor just don't be in a hurry to sell off your bitcoin and you won't have anything to worry.
And I disagree with you for saying the risk in Bitcoin is much the only thing that can make you lose your money in Bitcoin is if Bitcoin dips and never rise again and for now Bitcoin is still growing and has not reached half of it's growth limit, the other thing if he you are afraid or in a hurry and you sell when there's a dip, there's risk in Bitcoin but is not much.
If you hold your Bitcoin for a very long time you won't be in much risk and that is what it's always advised to hold your Bitcoin for long term.

Whether a person is investing into bitcoin, or buying shitcoins or gambling, they should be using discretionary income.. which is the money that is remaining after expenses are taken care of.... Also they are using money that they are not going to need for 4-10 years or longer.. which also should account for the possibility that the investment could end up going to zero... so the expression about not investing any more than you can afford to lose refers to not needing the money for expenses in the coming years and also in the coming 4-10 years or more.. and also realizing that it is possible to completely lose your money.. so you have to NOT be so emotionally attached with a belief that you are guaranteed to get the money back, which you are not guaranteed to get the money back, even if you invested into bitcoin, the best investment currently broadly available to anyone in the world.

Exactly, Mr. JayJuanGee what you said is absolutely right, it is advisable for someone to use discretionary income if he wants to invest into bitcoin, gambling or buying shitcoins. You can not invest your total funds in bitcoin investment or trading, bitcoin investment is very risky and so also trading, just because you started your investment with a huge amount of money doesn't mean that "the higher the capital the higher the return", you may loss your fund with blink of an eye, the possibility of earning profit that you have at the back of your mind, put at the back of it that there is also a possibility of loosing your money too, that is why it is often said that you should trade with what you can a to lose. Don't be so eager/impatient to make huge profits because it may land you in regret.

Please you don't have to get yourself confused as regards to what Bitcoin stands for and what trading stand for, no doubt that Bitcoin  investment is risky but it is not as risky as many claims or proclaim it to be the reason why it also advisable to invest from your disposable income after ensuring that whatever that might be considered to be a basic needs are taken care of,  and when it comes to trading in this context  it refers to buying Bitcoin with the aim of maximizing profits within the short time frame, justifiably Bitcoin has proven to be best appreciated when viewed on a long term perspective the reason it is always advisable to buy and hold for as long as necessary possibly 4 to 10 years or more.

 
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October 18, 2024, 05:03:31 PM
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If you invest in the DCA method for four to five years from now, you will have a lot of bitcoins, and you will be rich. will be


Checking from his statement you will understand what I mean and why I replied what I did.
 
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1) investing in bitcoin through DCA for 4 to five years from now you will have a lot of bitcoin.

2) and you will be rich

Now how possible is that to achieve a lot of bitcoin in 4 to 5 year if he doesn't increase his accumulation process or discretion?

And how can he be rich so suddenly why we all knows that bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme.

your definition of being rich might not be the same with his own definition of being rich and certainly, if you've stacked Bitcoin consistently for a period of 4 years, you're going to look rich regardless of how much you're using for your DCA.

If I'm earning $500 per month and I can afford to DCA $300 every month which for me is something that's 💯 realistic, by the end of the year, I have a groose Bitcoin that's worth $3.6k.

Even without doing it for a period of four years I will look really rich because it's not eaey to be disciplined to the point of owning such worth of Bitcoin for a year considering that I'm only earning $500 per month. If I continue buying it for the next 4 years, I must have had at least $14.4k worth of bitcon for that period of time and definitely Bitcoin would have gone past $120k by that time which means that my $14.4k worth of Bitcoin should be at least  $25k. Now it's possible that Bitcoin might do better than that before the next four years or that it might not have gotten to that price which is the least possibility but regardless of what's the current Bitcoin price at the time, consistently doing DCA for 4 years is enough to have taken you to a Point that you might look rich. For others than earn way above $500k per month and can DCA with a larger amount, it's going to even be more advantageous for them.
Oooh God..you guys are making things complicated, now why don't you assume to receive $100 as salary in a month and invest $40 per month in DCA instead of $500 salary and $300 DCA? I expect you guys to give an amount lesser to define how little amount can make someone rich withing a specific period of between 4-5 year. I am trying to explain how any amount invested can not make you rich that's why I used lesser amount to describe my explanation but you guys keep giving an amount that will sum up to a reasonable figure. Why don't you use a lesser amount of investment that will give you $400 Roi in a year.  if it's actually what they define to be "Rich" then toe I don see such. I know  people's description as rich differs, a person who has $400 may value it like $40k because of his level poverty, but to me I don't count $400 or $1.5k to be rich.


 
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October 18, 2024, 06:00:09 PM
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Exactly, Mr. JayJuanGee what you said is absolutely right, it is advisable for someone to use discretionary income if he wants to invest into bitcoin, gambling or buying shitcoins. You can not invest your total funds in bitcoin investment or trading, bitcoin investment is very risky and so also trading, just because you started your investment with a huge amount of money doesn't mean that "the higher the capital the higher the return", you may loss your fund with blink of an eye, the possibility of earning profit that you have at the back of your mind, put at the back of it that there is also a possibility of loosing your money too, that is why it is often said that you should trade with what you can a to lose. Don't be so eager/impatient to make huge profits because it may land you in regret.

I think that you are engaging in distraction and perversion/convolution of what I said, and I am not sure whether you are engaging in such gobble-dee-gook speech on purpose.

Trading is stupid, especially when it comes to bitcoin.

Bitcoin is one of the best investments known to man, so why should anyone be fucking around with trading?  I think trading (which frequently can end up devolving into gambling) is a bad idea (and gambling is even worse), even though people can do what they like.

And, yeah so there are levels of irresponsible actions that people could take when it comes to whether the trade, invest, gamble or get involved in shitcoins, and if they are using money that they need for expenses within the next 4-10 years or longer for investing, then they are likely going overboard, since investments tend to be a long time, including with bitcoin the commitment should be 4-10 years or more if there is a desire to invest into bitcoin.. and yeah there are folks who want to play the price swings for relatively short periods of time.

I believe that those people who invest less than 4 years in regards to bitcoin are traders and/or gamblers rather than investors, and sure there could also be ways to responsibly trade/gamble.. though personally I don't recommend them or to discuss them as if they were equals, and especially I would consider that there would need to be some care with position size when more risky behaviors are entered into, even if the aim ends up being to trade rather than invest, there can be ways to adjust the position size so that it is not as crazy if losses end up resulting. 

I frequently suggest that people do not trade, do not gamble, do not involve yourself in shitcoins, yet if you cannot resist the temptation of your own desires, then at least limit your exposure to those activities to no more than 10% the size of your bitcoin investment.. though many of us likely realize that traders who devolve into gamblers cannot help their own temptations to put in more and more an more into their trades and into their working capital.. which is frequently referred to as greed. .and sooner or later is likely to blow up, even if there might be long periods of "winning streaks."

So yeah, the same principles apply in regards to investing or trading in regards to taking the money from discretionary income rather than money that you need for expense, and also the principle of don't invest, trade, gamble or shitcoin any more than you can afford to lose apply to all of them, yet even if the same principles apply to each of those activities, the activities are neither equal concepts and it becomes problematic to convolute them to talk about them like they were the same thing or that they were comparable ways to spend money. .. which they are not.

I start to get the sense that I should not even talk about these topics anymore when guys pervert and convolute the ideas in order to act like trading and/or gambling is a good idea or to try to suggest that just because there is risk in bitcoin, to suggest all risk is the same, which it is not, and some risks are easier to mitigate than others.  Sometimes talking about the topic, such as saying that all income that is not tied to expenses that is not expenses is discretionary income so you can use that money as you, like, but if you choose to invest, trade, shitcoin gamble, then you should not be using money that you cannot afford to lose, that does not say that they are the same thing, yet it still seems to inevitably devolves into opening the door to giving too much praise to trading, gambling and shitcoining, even though I know that there can be responsible ways to trade/gamble and shitcoin, but it still tends to not be good ideas and/or practices.  Many people should not be allowing themselves to be distracted by bells and whistles of trading/gambling and/or shitcoining, and to be learning bitcoin first before getting themselves distracted into affinity scam nonsense (affinity scam largely just means that comparisons are being made to make certain things seem like other things, so if a person is affinity scamming trading as compared to investing, they may well be making suggesting that they are the same and/or similar, which they mostly are not.. especially if you create practices that are not in the overlapping area since one can devolve into the other when either one of them is done in sloppy ways that does not distinguish)... 

It can take years to focus on bitcoin, to learn about bitcoin, to learn about how bitcoin fits into your life and cashflow management, including that bitcoin's level of volatility would also be needed to be worked into the way that anyone chooses to invest into it including position size and cashflow management considerations, and to really get a good bitcoin strategy going and then maybe at that point some portion of the time, energy and value could be allowed to be spent on  shitcoins and trading/gambling if there is still desire and/or the temptation remains irresistible to get distracted into those inferior activities... hopefully no more than 10% the value of the bitcoin holdings..and yeah in the end, people can do whatever they want, even dumb stuff, while believing themselves to be smarter than everyone else in regards to either trading bitcoin or trading shitcoins.

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October 18, 2024, 07:34:18 PM
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If this proces is reapeted using $100 in replacement of $10 weekly as regard to fuck you status, the approximately $2500 will be $25000. Now obviously your success depends on your level of accumulation. Meaning the profit increase has not been added yet, if the profit should be added, it could amount to a Total of $30k or $35k
As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, every investor should invest in bitcoin according to how much their discretionary funds can allow them to invest in bitcoin. Even though we are investing in bitcoin, we ought to go on vacation, enjoy life, and learn about other people's way of life. Investors should not invest in bitcoin in a way that they will find it difficult to solve their daily expenses. If $10 is what he can afford to invest in bitcoin every week, encourage him to do better and don't condemn his effort in trying to be among those people who will hold bitcoin, and remember the goal of every investor accumulating bitcoin for long-term is to accumulate the quantity of bitcoin they want to hold no matter how many years it takes them to achieve it. As time goes on, he can work on his income so that there will be a good income flow at the end of every week or month, which will allow him to increase his weekly bitcoin accumulation money.
I was expecting you to say that every investor that is investing in Bitcoin to have a limitation of what the invest so that when the market is against there will not feel disappointed and they will not feel depressed because as a new someone for cryptocurrency investment mostly in Bitcoin you have to know that the risk which is involved in Bitcoin is much and they have to understand that Bitcoin have two things neither you make a profit for the investment or you lose for the investment this things are the major things that is involved in cryptocurrency investment so someone who is investing in Bitcoin so invest for what it can afford to lose not invest what it cannot afford to lose that should be the advice to anyone who is a beginner to bitcoin investment
from the way you are sounding I don't think you are talking about Bitcoin, this statement of investing what one can afford to lose is not for Bitcoin, this statement is used for shitcoins and traders, as a long time Bitcoin investor just don't be in a hurry to sell off your bitcoin and you won't have anything to worry.
And I disagree with you for saying the risk in Bitcoin is much the only thing that can make you lose your money in Bitcoin is if Bitcoin dips and never rise again and for now Bitcoin is still growing and has not reached half of it's growth limit, the other thing if he you are afraid or in a hurry and you sell when there's a dip, there's risk in Bitcoin but is not much.
If you hold your Bitcoin for a very long time you won't be in much risk and that is what it's always advised to hold your Bitcoin for long term.

Whether a person is investing into bitcoin, or buying shitcoins or gambling, they should be using discretionary income.. which is the money that is remaining after expenses are taken care of.... Also they are using money that they are not going to need for 4-10 years or longer.. which also should account for the possibility that the investment could end up going to zero... so the expression about not investing any more than you can afford to lose refers to not needing the money for expenses in the coming years and also in the coming 4-10 years or more.. and also realizing that it is possible to completely lose your money.. so you have to NOT be so emotionally attached with a belief that you are guaranteed to get the money back, which you are not guaranteed to get the money back, even if you invested into bitcoin, the best investment currently broadly available to anyone in the world.

Exactly, Mr. JayJuanGee what you said is absolutely right, it is advisable for someone to use discretionary income if he wants to invest into bitcoin, gambling or buying shitcoins. You can not invest your total funds in bitcoin investment or trading, bitcoin investment is very risky and so also trading, just because you started your investment with a huge amount of money doesn't mean that "the higher the capital the higher the return", you may loss your fund with blink of an eye, the possibility of earning profit that you have at the back of your mind, put at the back of it that there is also a possibility of loosing your money too, that is why it is often said that you should trade with what you can a to lose. Don't be so eager/impatient to make huge profits because it may land you in regret.
Where you use huge funds or small funds to trade from your discretionary income, you will still regret it in the long run because you will run at loss. This is why trading shouldn't be an option for a new investor because it is gambling. Throwing away you extra cash on trading is not the best when you can use such funds to invest in bitcoin gradually every week and build your bitcoin portfolio overtime for the future.

Some people think that trading is a get rich quick scheme, rather it is a way to steal the little bitcoin that you have. Invest in bitcoin and hodli, you will not run at loss but you will make profit because bitcoin is still in its transition stage and will get more matured in future. The size of your bitcoin is what will determine the profit, and this is why you need to buy bitcoin now and keep growing your bitcoin stash continuously to a great height because a time will come that only the rich might be able to buy bitcoin due to the expensive price.
I didn't mean that people should not invest in bitcoin, what I mean is that they should invest in it with discretionary income that they will not need anytime soon after all their expenses has been covered.

I admit that I said bitcoin investment is risky, but I didn't mean it the way you are taking it, no one will compare Bitcoin to trading in any way talk less of gambling. But I have my own reasons for saying that bitcoin is a little bit risky. Because there is nothing in this world that you will engage yourself in and it will be risk free, especially when it as to do with money, everything that have an advantage also have a disadvantage including bitcoin investment.

My reasons are as follow:
MARKET VOLATILITY: How can you invest in bitcoin with a huge amount of money after knowing about bitcoin's volatility, it price can volatile anytime because it is unpredictable and it may rise higher or lower anytime. For instance, let say you are a bitcoin investor, you are buying and you are also holding bitcoin, you have 3BTC and your calculations based on each bitcoin is $68, 614.47, and it price fall lower than that, how are you going to feel when you are expecting something greater. But if it rise higher then pleasure will be yours.

SECURITY RISKS: fraudster/scammers eyes are on bitcoin investors, and they are targeting them, you may be scam or your account may be hacked if care is not taken.

INVESTOR RISKS: some people will not have knowledge or understand anything based on bitcoin investment, but because their friend is a bitcoin investor and he is earning a lot of profit from it, they will also invest in it so that they should earn what their friend is earning. What did you think will happen to this people after involving themselves in bitcoin investment without knowing anything about it?? Greediness and fear can result in weak investment, if an investor is emotionally scared it will kill the investor's motivation.

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October 18, 2024, 09:49:15 PM
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As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, every investor should invest in bitcoin according to how much their discretionary funds can allow them to invest in bitcoin. Even though we are investing in bitcoin, we ought to go on vacation, enjoy life, and learn about other people's way of life.
Bitcoin investment is not something you should force yourself to do, some people will end up starving themselves just because they want to invest in bitcoin, which is not making sense to me. If you are investing in bitcoin, then it should be at your convenience, don’t invest, and at the end you will end up spending all the money gotten from the investment on medical bills. Always enjoy your life even when investing. I do try to invest almost every month, but there are some months in which I don’t invest. I do enjoy all my money with my family members. Sometimes I do invest little amount, and sometimes my investment is always high. I don’t have a fixed amount that I do invest in bitcoin monthly, my investment is always determined by the problem that I am having to solve at that month.

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October 19, 2024, 04:55:56 AM
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As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, every investor should invest in bitcoin according to how much their discretionary funds can allow them to invest in bitcoin. Even though we are investing in bitcoin, we ought to go on vacation, enjoy life, and learn about other people's way of life.
Bitcoin investment is not something you should force yourself to do, some people will end up starving themselves just because they want to invest in bitcoin, which is not making sense to me. If you are investing in bitcoin, then it should be at your convenience, don’t invest, and at the end you will end up spending all the money gotten from the investment on medical bills. Always enjoy your life even when investing. I do try to invest almost every month, but there are some months in which I don’t invest. I do enjoy all my money with my family members. Sometimes I do invest little amount, and sometimes my investment is always high. I don’t have a fixed amount that I do invest in bitcoin monthly, my investment is always determined by the problem that I am having to solve at that month.

Actually there are different ways to invest in Bitcoin, and here everyone is free to invest according to their convenience and preference. A beginner should first research the method of investing, and definitely adopt such a method that he can continue for a long time.

In case of DCA we have to invest a certain amount of money regularly monthly or weekly. Investing in the DCA method will give you an average price over the long term and will be able to make good profits despite market fluctuations. But for this you definitely need to build a strong source of income, because investing in DCA requires you to invest a certain amount of money regularly, and keep it constant, and for that you definitely need a good source of income, Which will pay you good money on a regular weekly/monthly basis. And must always keep reserve fund and emergency fund ready.

And here the method @Issa56 is investing in is “Flexible Investment Strategy”, its also a good investment strategy, in this method of investment no fixed amount of money is required to be invested regularly, rather the amount of investment is determined depending on personal situation, monthly financial condition. This strategy will also be a good strategy for new investors. As it will be a bit difficult for beginners to continue investing regularly in the beginning, it is normal for them to start investing in this “Flexible Investment Strategy”, so that they do not face any financial pressure or family risk, and slowly in this investment method After normalization, then they can focus on DCA.

But whichever way you invest, your goal should be long-term holding.

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As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, every investor should invest in bitcoin according to how much their discretionary funds can allow them to invest in bitcoin. Even though we are investing in bitcoin, we ought to go on vacation, enjoy life, and learn about other people's way of life.
Bitcoin investment is not something you should force yourself to do, some people will end up starving themselves just because they want to invest in bitcoin, which is not making sense to me. If you are investing in bitcoin, then it should be at your convenience, don’t invest, and at the end you will end up spending all the money gotten from the investment on medical bills. Always enjoy your life even when investing. I do try to invest almost every month, but there are some months in which I don’t invest. I do enjoy all my money with my family members. Sometimes I do invest little amount, and sometimes my investment is always high. I don’t have a fixed amount that I do invest in bitcoin monthly, my investment is always determined by the problem that I am having to solve at that month.

I do not argue that we should not enjoy ourselves while making investments in bitcoin but for someone who believes in the future of bitcoin and knows the potential benefits that awaits their investments when they consistently accumulate without spending much money on frivolous things that people call fun, more fun awaits them in the future when they must have own a big investment in bitcoin. We need to understand that life itself is about risks and until we deny ourselves some comfort, fun and pleasure it will be difficult for us to be determined in owning a huge portfolio because there will be times when you will want to invest in bitcoin but you will find it more better to use the money for pleasures. We need to pay more attention to what we can be able to achieve in the future than being distracted by things we call fun now. Except for health cases, i don't see the reasons why we shouldn't invest in bitcoin with all alacrity. If you are determined to own a huge portfolio in bitcoin then making an irregular investment may not help you except if you want to increase your investment amount depending on the level of your income.

The problem most of us faces why making investments in bitcoin is just fear of uncertainty. I have learnt do devote my time in anything that have a good future and bitcoin is part of it so i rather ride or die with bitcoin.

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As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, every investor should invest in bitcoin according to how much their discretionary funds can allow them to invest in bitcoin. Even though we are investing in bitcoin, we ought to go on vacation, enjoy life, and learn about other people's way of life.
Bitcoin investment is not something you should force yourself to do, some people will end up starving themselves just because they want to invest in bitcoin, which is not making sense to me. If you are investing in bitcoin, then it should be at your convenience, don’t invest, and at the end you will end up spending all the money gotten from the investment on medical bills. Always enjoy your life even when investing. I do try to invest almost every month, but there are some months in which I don’t invest. I do enjoy all my money with my family members. Sometimes I do invest little amount, and sometimes my investment is always high. I don’t have a fixed amount that I do invest in bitcoin monthly, my investment is always determined by the problem that I am having to solve at that month.

I do not argue that we should not enjoy ourselves while making investments in bitcoin but for someone who believes in the future of bitcoin and knows the potential benefits that awaits their investments when they consistently accumulate without spending much money on frivolous things that people call fun, more fun awaits them in the future when they must have own a big investment in bitcoin. We need to understand that life itself is about risks and until we deny ourselves some comfort, fun and pleasure it will be difficult for us to be determined in owning a huge portfolio because there will be times when you will want to invest in bitcoin but you will find it more better to use the money for pleasures. We need to pay more attention to what we can be able to achieve in the future than being distracted by things we call fun now. Except for health cases, i don't see the reasons why we shouldn't invest in bitcoin with all alacrity. If you are determined to own a huge portfolio in bitcoin then making an irregular investment may not help you except if you want to increase your investment amount depending on the level of your income.

The problem most of us faces why making investments in bitcoin is just fear of uncertainty. I have learnt do devote my time in anything that have a good future and bitcoin is part of it so i rather ride or die with bitcoin.

I think everything would depend on your priorities and financial capabilities. Since not everyone could able to spend lots of money thru investment on bitcoin. There are people just think about they are saving some money for future and bitcoin is good asset to store especially that it shows huge potential to grow more. But fun thing towards our investment will depend on what thing you enjoy. We should remember that finding things we can enjoy is not about money. Sometimes we can achieve that especially when have solid discussions towards our experience or sharing some insight about the future of  bitcoin.  

Those issues mentioned would really happen that's why its good that we prepare earlier so that we will not get heavily affected when this problems occur. That's why aside from building up your portfolio on your bitcoin investment, we also need to build up some funds to use for emergency situation. If we have this discipline provably that we can always bounce back more stronger if there's issue happen to us.

Normal to get fear especially if you are not sure on things about what you are doing. But this doubt will be corrected if they are eager to learn and knows how to research to know more about what they are trying to invest..

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As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, every investor should invest in bitcoin according to how much their discretionary funds can allow them to invest in bitcoin. Even though we are investing in bitcoin, we ought to go on vacation, enjoy life, and learn about other people's way of life.
Bitcoin investment is not something you should force yourself to do, some people will end up starving themselves just because they want to invest in bitcoin, which is not making sense to me. If you are investing in bitcoin, then it should be at your convenience, don’t invest, and at the end you will end up spending all the money gotten from the investment on medical bills. Always enjoy your life even when investing. I do try to invest almost every month, but there are some months in which I don’t invest. I do enjoy all my money with my family members. Sometimes I do invest little amount, and sometimes my investment is always high. I don’t have a fixed amount that I do invest in bitcoin monthly, my investment is always determined by the problem that I am having to solve at that month.

We need to understand that life itself is about risks and until we deny ourselves some comfort, fun and pleasure it will be difficult for us to be determined in owning a huge portfolio because there will be times when you will want to invest in bitcoin but you will find it more better to use the money for pleasures.
No doubt that life is all about risk, but that doesn't mean we would invest so agresively in bitcoin and forget to take good care of ourselves, surely it is good to increase our investment when we have more sizable discretion but not when we don't have. talk more of starving ourselves. That is the more reason it is advised to seperate your fund in different dimension in Oder not to overdoing it. In as much as life is concerned, it is the first priority to handle including having fun and all that, so we shouldn't neglect it all because we want to invest in bitcoin. Bitcoin investment is good and should be taken seriously but health is wealth, if you don't take good care of your body properly, you may undergo a serious illness that will slow down your bitcoin investment or you may even sell your Bitcoin to treat yourself, after you may have neglected setting aside your emergency fund because of investing agresively to increase your portfolio.


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As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, every investor should invest in bitcoin according to how much their discretionary funds can allow them to invest in bitcoin. Even though we are investing in bitcoin, we ought to go on vacation, enjoy life, and learn about other people's way of life.
Bitcoin investment is not something you should force yourself to do, some people will end up starving themselves just because they want to invest in bitcoin, which is not making sense to me. If you are investing in bitcoin, then it should be at your convenience, don’t invest, and at the end you will end up spending all the money gotten from the investment on medical bills. Always enjoy your life even when investing. I do try to invest almost every month, but there are some months in which I don’t invest. I do enjoy all my money with my family members. Sometimes I do invest little amount, and sometimes my investment is always high. I don’t have a fixed amount that I do invest in bitcoin monthly, my investment is always determined by the problem that I am having to solve at that month.

We need to understand that life itself is about risks and until we deny ourselves some comfort, fun and pleasure it will be difficult for us to be determined in owning a huge portfolio because there will be times when you will want to invest in bitcoin but you will find it more better to use the money for pleasures.
No doubt that life is all about risk, but that doesn't mean we would invest so agresively in bitcoin and forget to take good care of ourselves, surely it is good to increase our investment when we have more sizable discretion but not when we don't have. talk more of starving ourselves. That is the more reason it is advised to seperate your fund in different dimension in Oder not to overdoing it. In as much as life is concerned, it is the first priority to handle including having fun and all that, so we shouldn't neglect it all because we want to invest in bitcoin. Bitcoin investment is good and should be taken seriously but health is wealth, if you don't take good care of your body properly, you may undergo a serious illness that will slow down your bitcoin investment or you may even sell your Bitcoin to treat yourself, after you may have neglected setting aside your emergency fund because of investing agresively to increase your portfolio.



You will be aware of the status of Bitcoin investment until you get involved in investing.  The more bitcoins you invest, the less aggressive you will become, because investing aggressively will never yield good results.  So Bitcoin is the only trusted coin where investing can get the most benefit, it needs a long time. If you invest in a long-term process and use the DCA method, you are most likely to have success. So it must be trusted to create itself, and it is the only bitcoin where the world's largest institutions and countries have invested in bitcoin.
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As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, every investor should invest in bitcoin according to how much their discretionary funds can allow them to invest in bitcoin. Even though we are investing in bitcoin, we ought to go on vacation, enjoy life, and learn about other people's way of life.
Bitcoin investment is not something you should force yourself to do, some people will end up starving themselves just because they want to invest in bitcoin, which is not making sense to me. If you are investing in bitcoin, then it should be at your convenience, don’t invest, and at the end you will end up spending all the money gotten from the investment on medical bills. Always enjoy your life even when investing. I do try to invest almost every month, but there are some months in which I don’t invest. I do enjoy all my money with my family members. Sometimes I do invest little amount, and sometimes my investment is always high. I don’t have a fixed amount that I do invest in bitcoin monthly, my investment is always determined by the problem that I am having to solve at that month.

We need to understand that life itself is about risks and until we deny ourselves some comfort, fun and pleasure it will be difficult for us to be determined in owning a huge portfolio because there will be times when you will want to invest in bitcoin but you will find it more better to use the money for pleasures.
No doubt that life is all about risk, but that doesn't mean we would invest so agresively in bitcoin and forget to take good care of ourselves, surely it is good to increase our investment when we have more sizable discretion but not when we don't have. talk more of starving ourselves. That is the more reason it is advised to seperate your fund in different dimension in Oder not to overdoing it. In as much as life is concerned, it is the first priority to handle including having fun and all that, so we shouldn't neglect it all because we want to invest in bitcoin. Bitcoin investment is good and should be taken seriously but health is wealth, if you don't take good care of your body properly, you may undergo a serious illness that will slow down your bitcoin investment or you may even sell your Bitcoin to treat yourself, after you may have neglected setting aside your emergency fund because of investing agresively to increase your portfolio.


The truth of the matter is that, if you haven't taken good care of you basic needs you can't hold longer, you might decide to buy aggressively during a dip and as at then you have a little bit of money that can sustain you for a while, but wouldn't be enough on a longer run, so if you decide to hold for a very long period of time and you are starving yourself doing it bro, along the line, you will see yourself tempering with your holdings just for survival, so it's very important that in as much as we are all trying to get a very good stash of Bitcoin in our possession, let's not forget to sort out our basic needs first, if not, at some point we will see ourselves falling back to our investment even when we actually don't like doing it.

So in essence of what am trying to say is that before you invest in Bitcoin or even think of buying aggressively during a dip, let's our basic needs and money for survival first of all be in place, because it's very wrong to invest  our emergency funds or money for our upkeep, just because we want to seize the opportunity of buying more during a dip, so let's be guided.

 
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If this proces is reapeted using $100 in replacement of $10 weekly as regard to fuck you status, the approximately $2500 will be $25000. Now obviously your success depends on your level of accumulation. Meaning the profit increase has not been added yet, if the profit should be added, it could amount to a Total of $30k or $35k
As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, every investor should invest in bitcoin according to how much their discretionary funds can allow them to invest in bitcoin. Even though we are investing in bitcoin, we ought to go on vacation, enjoy life, and learn about other people's way of life. Investors should not invest in bitcoin in a way that they will find it difficult to solve their daily expenses. If $10 is what he can afford to invest in bitcoin every week, encourage him to do better and don't condemn his effort in trying to be among those people who will hold bitcoin, and remember the goal of every investor accumulating bitcoin for long-term is to accumulate the quantity of bitcoin they want to hold no matter how many years it takes them to achieve it. As time goes on, he can work on his income so that there will be a good income flow at the end of every week or month, which will allow him to increase his weekly bitcoin accumulation money.
You're absolutely right here. All hands are not the same. At every point in time, it is necessary to understand how much our discretionary funds are after we receive our salary or get paid before investing. And only investors who calculate this properly can be able to. Some investor dont know what their discretionary income is till today. Apart from Bitcoin knowledge, they lack the level of education that affects them. And yes, Bitcoin is both for the literate and illiterate. As long as they know Bitcoin investment an investor must find a way, either by help from others to calculate his discretionary funds before investing.
Since Bitcoin investment is a long-term investment, discretion plays a very important role. In the past we have seen a lot in the society after getting salary we spend the salary money on various activities which can not play any role in future investment. It can be seen in many cases, after the end of the salary money at the end of the month, one has to borrow from others. Actually the reason behind this is our lack of discretionary thinking, we need to understand what our income is and how much money we can save for future investment at the end of the month. Anyone educated or illiterate can invest in Bitcoin if he can develop his rational thinking.
As an example, suppose a person earns $40 per week and spends $30 on other expenses and the remaining $10 on Bitcoin investment. That totals up to about $120 at the end of the month on a $40 investment.

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October 20, 2024, 12:04:56 PM
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You will be aware of the status of Bitcoin investment until you get involved in investing.  The more bitcoins you invest, the less aggressive you will become, because investing aggressively will never yield good results.  So Bitcoin is the only trusted coin where investing can get the most benefit, it needs a long time. If you invest in a long-term process and use the DCA method, you are most likely to have success. So it must be trusted to create itself, and it is the only bitcoin where the world's largest institutions and countries have invested in bitcoin.

The investment class with Bitcoin is a very large class because currently everyone who has known Bitcoin has certainly seen how world figures who are already rich enough still invest in Bitcoin until now. Likewise with other large companies and several countries that have also begun to believe enough in Bitcoin investment so that this has added more confidence in the minds of many people that Bitcoin is not something that needs to be doubted for its investment. As for the method of collecting Bitcoin itself, I think everyone will continue to do what they do most often and it still feels comfortable enough to continue doing as in the example of the DCA method that you said.

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As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, every investor should invest in bitcoin according to how much their discretionary funds can allow them to invest in bitcoin. Even though we are investing in bitcoin, we ought to go on vacation, enjoy life, and learn about other people's way of life.
Bitcoin investment is not something you should force yourself to do, some people will end up starving themselves just because they want to invest in bitcoin, which is not making sense to me. If you are investing in bitcoin, then it should be at your convenience, don’t invest, and at the end you will end up spending all the money gotten from the investment on medical bills. Always enjoy your life even when investing. I do try to invest almost every month, but there are some months in which I don’t invest. I do enjoy all my money with my family members. Sometimes I do invest little amount, and sometimes my investment is always high. I don’t have a fixed amount that I do invest in bitcoin monthly, my investment is always determined by the problem that I am having to solve at that month.

We need to understand that life itself is about risks and until we deny ourselves some comfort, fun and pleasure it will be difficult for us to be determined in owning a huge portfolio because there will be times when you will want to invest in bitcoin but you will find it more better to use the money for pleasures.
No doubt that life is all about risk, but that doesn't mean we would invest so agresively in bitcoin and forget to take good care of ourselves, surely it is good to increase our investment when we have more sizable discretion but not when we don't have. talk more of starving ourselves. That is the more reason it is advised to seperate your fund in different dimension in Oder not to overdoing it. In as much as life is concerned, it is the first priority to handle including having fun and all that, so we shouldn't neglect it all because we want to invest in bitcoin. Bitcoin investment is good and should be taken seriously but health is wealth, if you don't take good care of your body properly, you may undergo a serious illness that will slow down your bitcoin investment or you may even sell your Bitcoin to treat yourself, after you may have neglected setting aside your emergency fund because of investing agresively to increase your portfolio.


The truth of the matter is that, if you haven't taken good care of you basic needs you can't hold longer, you might decide to buy aggressively during a dip and as at then you have a little bit of money that can sustain you for a while, but wouldn't be enough on a longer run, so if you decide to hold for a very long period of time and you are starving yourself doing it bro, along the line, you will see yourself tempering with your holdings just for survival, so it's very important that in as much as we are all trying to get a very good stash of Bitcoin in our possession, let's not forget to sort out our basic needs first, if not, at some point we will see ourselves falling back to our investment even when we actually don't like doing it.

So in essence of what am trying to say is that before you invest in Bitcoin or even think of buying aggressively during a dip, let's our basic needs and money for survival first of all be in place, because it's very wrong to invest  our emergency funds or money for our upkeep, just because we want to seize the opportunity of buying more during a dip, so let's be guided.
Investing aggressively is good, it will make you reach your bitcoin target fast. That is why, if you have the opportunity to invest aggressively, you should do it, as long as you are not overdoing it. This is because it enables you to cover up some little wasted time in the past when you didn't invest. It is when you overdo it, that it becomes gambling and not investing, because when your important needs arises, you will sell part of your bitcoin at loss if the price of bitcoin is experiencing a dip at that moment.

The size of your emergency funds will also determine how aggressive you will be. It is not only the dip that one can invest aggressively, it can be done whenever you have the money to buy aggressively. For instance, I earn $400, and my monthly expenses is $300, and I am a new investor. I can be using $40 to build my emergency funds and $40 for my weekly bitcoin investment simultaneously with my emergency funds.

If I have built my emergency funds and reserve funds, I can then use all the $80 to buy bitcoin weekly continuously. Or if my income increases to $700, and my monthly expenses increased to $400. I can choose to invest aggressively for that period of time by investing $200 weekly for long, or if I get paid my Christmas bonus at work, I can spread it out in 4 weeks and invest aggressively with it irrespective of the price of bitcoin, as long as it will not affect my expenses and needs, while my regular DCA is ongoing.

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We need to understand that life itself is about risks and until we deny ourselves some comfort, fun and pleasure it will be difficult for us to be determined in owning a huge portfolio because there will be times when you will want to invest in bitcoin but you will find it more better to use the money for pleasures.
No doubt that life is all about risk, but that doesn't mean we would invest so agresively in bitcoin and forget to take good care of ourselves, surely it is good to increase our investment when we have more sizable discretion but not when we don't have. talk more of starving ourselves. That is the more reason it is advised to seperate your fund in different dimension in Oder not to overdoing it. In as much as life is concerned, it is the first priority to handle including having fun and all that, so we shouldn't neglect it all because we want to invest in bitcoin. Bitcoin investment is good and should be taken seriously but health is wealth, if you don't take good care of your body properly, you may undergo a serious illness that will slow down your bitcoin investment or you may even sell your Bitcoin to treat yourself, after you may have neglected setting aside your emergency fund because of investing agresively to increase your portfolio.
You will be aware of the status of Bitcoin investment until you get involved in investing.  The more bitcoins you invest, the less aggressive you will become, because investing aggressively will never yield good results.  So Bitcoin is the only trusted coin where investing can get the most benefit, it needs a long time. If you invest in a long-term process and use the DCA method, you are most likely to have success. So it must be trusted to create itself, and it is the only bitcoin where the world's largest institutions and countries have invested in bitcoin.
There is nothing wrong with being aggressive with bitcoin investment because it simply depend on the passion of the investor and his motivation/conviction on bitcoin. Provided he is putting adequate measures in place to keep himself afloat without resorting to selling his bitcoin, I think he will be happy for being aggressive with bitcoin investing.

You don't have to mistake being aggressive with being reckless, both are different things and never the same when it comes to investing in bitcoin. Being aggressive in bitcoin can be like investing as high as 50% of your income in bitcoin provided the remaining 50% can cover all your needs and still allow you set aside emergency funds for any eventuality. This is a high percentage if you think it through although it depends heavily on the cashflow. I chose the percentage to just paint a picture of what being aggressive in bitcoin investing is. People become aggressive sometimes to meet their targets like getting 1BTC within a calendar year. Someone can set this target but may run into some challenges that will reduce his cashflow at the early part of the year. But towards the end of the year he might have major inflows of cash and hence resort to aggressive purchase of bitcoin to meet his earlier target. There are several scenarios that can make an investor become aggressive in bitcoin accumulation.

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October 20, 2024, 09:19:04 PM
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Investing aggressively is good, it will make you reach your bitcoin target fast. That is why, if you have the opportunity to invest aggressively, you should do it, as long as you are not overdoing it. This is because it enables you to cover up some little wasted time in the past when you didn't invest. It is when you overdo it, that it becomes gambling and not investing, because when your important needs arises, you will sell part of your bitcoin at loss if the price of bitcoin is experiencing a dip at that moment.

The size of your emergency funds will also determine how aggressive you will be. It is not only the dip that one can invest aggressively, it can be done whenever you have the money to buy aggressively. For instance, I earn $400, and my monthly expenses is $300, and I am a new investor. I can be using $40 to build my emergency funds and $40 for my weekly bitcoin investment simultaneously with my emergency funds.

If I have built my emergency funds and reserve funds, I can then use all the $80 to buy bitcoin weekly continuously. Or if my income increases to $700, and my monthly expenses increased to $400. I can choose to invest aggressively for that period of time by investing $200 weekly for long, or if I get paid my Christmas bonus at work, I can spread it out in 4 weeks and invest aggressively with it irrespective of the price of bitcoin, as long as it will not affect my expenses and needs, while my regular DCA is ongoing.
Aggressively is aggressively
There's nothing like over doing it and under doing it.
If you invest aggressively it would help get to your Bitcoin target faster or slower is two ways.
You start moving as the market
If it falls too much you sell to control your losses and if it rises you start 'collecting profit '
Personally I believe aggressive is quite greedy thus susceptible to emotional changes.
Invest according to your capability and if you can go aggressive and won't feel it if it dips
Well Good for you.

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Exactly, Mr. JayJuanGee what you said is absolutely right, it is advisable for someone to use discretionary income if he wants to invest into bitcoin, gambling or buying shitcoins. You can not invest your total funds in bitcoin investment or trading, bitcoin investment is very risky and so also trading, just because you started your investment with a huge amount of money doesn't mean that "the higher the capital the higher the return", you may loss your fund with blink of an eye, the possibility of earning profit that you have at the back of your mind, put at the back of it that there is also a possibility of loosing your money too, that is why it is often said that you should trade with what you can a to lose. Don't be so eager/impatient to make huge profits because it may land you in regret.
Actually in this case I have some things that I agree with and some things that I don't.
I have the same opinion when saying that in gambling, investment or anything of course everything refers and uses discretionary income but on the other hand actually I don't really agree with your last sentence that you should trade with what you can afford to lose.
I'm a bit ambiguous here because I think no matter how much money we have at the end of the day when it comes to trading then you have to be prepared for the worst and regret it at the end. Not that I underestimate those who trade but at the end of the day bad luck always happens and we have seen so many people liquidated just because of failed trades so in this case I would rather say that when you trade then you are bound to lose not prepare to lose.
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October 20, 2024, 10:25:29 PM
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You will be aware of the status of Bitcoin investment until you get involved in investing.  The more bitcoins you invest, the less aggressive you will become, because investing aggressively will never yield good results.  So Bitcoin is the only trusted coin where investing can get the most benefit, it needs a long time. If you invest in a long-term process and use the DCA method, you are most likely to have success. So it must be trusted to create itself, and it is the only bitcoin where the world's largest institutions and countries have invested in bitcoin.

The investment class with Bitcoin is a very large class because currently everyone who has known Bitcoin has certainly seen how world figures who are already rich enough still invest in Bitcoin until now. Likewise with other large companies and several countries that have also begun to believe enough in Bitcoin investment so that this has added more confidence in the minds of many people that Bitcoin is not something that needs to be doubted for its investment. As for the method of collecting Bitcoin itself, I think everyone will continue to do what they do most often and it still feels comfortable enough to continue doing as in the example of the DCA method that you said.

Only does people don't have enough knowledge about it will doubt on Bitcoin. But if they came into to do further more research and know those things then provably that investing with bitcoin for long term would really be not a problem with them.

There are lots of sources where they can learn lots of information about bitcoin and there's no excuse for people to research more deeper information about it. But if they still choose to be doubtful on this asset and believe on traditional people saying that this is scam then they are wasting opportunities what bitcoin could potentially grab. Bitcoin is strong asset now and hopefully this condition together with those good events also acceptance happen is strong basis to think about that bitcoin is not easy to collapsed asset. Those experience bitcoin investors would provably continue what they are doing and we see people doing fine and provably would earn more from it in future.

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Only does people don't have enough knowledge about it will doubt on Bitcoin. But if they came into to do further more research and know those things then provably that investing with bitcoin for long term would really be not a problem with them.

There are lots of sources where they can learn lots of information about bitcoin and there's no excuse for people to research more deeper information about it. But if they still choose to be doubtful on this asset and believe on traditional people saying that this is scam then they are wasting opportunities what bitcoin could potentially grab. Bitcoin is strong asset now and hopefully this condition together with those good events also acceptance happen is strong basis to think about that bitcoin is not easy to collapsed asset. Those experience bitcoin investors would provably continue what they are doing and we see people doing fine and provably would earn more from it in future.

It's understandable but not having enough knowledge is not enough reason for someone to doubt something that they've seen increased overtime. That's why their's a saying that (people perish because of ignorance) and people who fall under that category don't know what they're missing out. Most people who are yet to start investing in Bitcoin are just so scared of the dip and just like you said they should've made research about it to know better and understand it before condemning or ignoring it due to fear (something that's very beneficial on the long run) and that's why I feel it's not only ignorance but unwillingness to learn, procrastination and so on. Well whether they still doubt Bitcoin or not, it's not going to change the fact that Bitcoin must attain greater heights it's already on it's way to 100k and that's enough reason for any one to jump in and start hoarding. Like I said earlier, they don't know what they're missing and I bet that when Bitcoin gets to 100k their excuse would be that the price is too much for investment, If only they knew.

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