Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[EarnOnVictor]

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Well, I will have to agree on this one cause the rate at which BTC is pumping right now, the cost of frontloading your investment portfolio into Bitcoin will be really expensive, but hey you never can tell, someone with a deep pocket can just do it (still a presumption thought)

Such a thing does not need to be assumed because most people can also see that at this time there are already many rich people with deep pockets who want to buy Bitcoin without thinking about the expensive costs. Because people who already understand Bitcoin will never stop buying Bitcoin and they will even continue to be enthusiastic in buying when they see the price of Bitcoin which has increased. But if you do not have deep enough pockets to be able to buy Bitcoin in large quantities, you can still buy it little by little because that can also be a good option for people who do not have that much money.

The money we should invest in bitcoin is our discretionary income and not the other way round the reason why some people are to buy now is not because of the current price of bitcoin but rather they undermine the worth of bitcoin and they are afraid to take the risk. Traders are mostly the one that is seeing the current price to be too expensive because they are looking for short-term profit

Can you even hear yourself? Why would traders see the price of Bitcoin as expensive when they are interested in a quick buying and selling? That's not accurate, for traders are interested in the slightest fluctuation of the market price in their favour and can profit on both sides (Buy or Sell position). Investors should mostly consider the purchasing value of their asset and the intended goal of purchasing it.

Many of you might also fake it to call black--white, but the truth is that the Bitcoin you bought at $10,000 is cheaper than the Bitcoin you bought at $100,000 and the profit the two would earn when Bitcoin gets to $150,000 aren't the same, let's stop pretending that the value of Bitcoin is always the same at all prices, smart investments and planning are keys.

[Promocodeudo]

Even with the best analysis, we are never certain about the outcomes. Markets are unpredictable and if we don't adapt to a safer method of investing, we are basically leaving things to change. I bet that is where DCA falls into place.

Peace can come when we adapt a strategy that is less risky which we all know that DCA has proven to be one of the strategies that reduces risk since you don't get to be checking at the price of Bitcoin often.

Mate you're right, Bitcoin market is really volatile that's why it's price can not be ascertain anytime, so for us to scale through in the market we must apply the strategy that works perfectly well irrespective of the market situation at all time, we must learn how not to over do more than our financial ability for us to have rest of mind as bitcoiners, our approach to Bitcoin acumulation matters, the DCA method has many benefit in Bitcoin acumulation, its less stressful, very efficient and reliable, it gives all individual equal right to accumulate Bitcoin freely irrespective of our financial status but what matters is our ability to be consistent in the amount we are DCAing with and also to increase once our income increase.

[JayJuanGee]

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Well, I will have to agree on this one cause the rate at which BTC is pumping right now, the cost of frontloading your investment portfolio into Bitcoin will be really expensive, but hey you never can tell, someone with a deep pocket can just do it (still a presumption thought)

Such a thing does not need to be assumed because most people can also see that at this time there are already many rich people with deep pockets who want to buy Bitcoin without thinking about the expensive costs. Because people who already understand Bitcoin will never stop buying Bitcoin and they will even continue to be enthusiastic in buying when they see the price of Bitcoin which has increased. But if you do not have deep enough pockets to be able to buy Bitcoin in large quantities, you can still buy it little by little because that can also be a good option for people who do not have that much money.

The money we should invest in bitcoin is our discretionary income and not the other way round the reason why some people are to buy now is not because of the current price of bitcoin but rather they undermine the worth of bitcoin and they are afraid to take the risk. Traders are mostly the one that is seeing the current price to be too expensive because they are looking for short-term profit

Can you even hear yourself? Why would traders see the price of Bitcoin as expensive when they are interested in a quick buying and selling? That's not accurate, for traders are interested in the slightest fluctuation of the market price in their favour and can profit on both sides (Buy or Sell position). Investors should mostly consider the purchasing value of their asset and the intended goal of purchasing it.

For sure you are correct about traders in that if they are somewhat experienced rather than a newbie who is guessing about what to do, then they are going to have varying techniques to attempt to play both or either side of the trade, and so they may well not be too concerned about current prices as long as they believe that they have a reasonable thesis for taking a position in one direction or another, including realizing that even an overvalued asset can sometimes (or even frequently) continue to go up and to provide trading opportunities for any trader who is able to identify some kinds of meaningful and/or reliable indicators that go beyond merely assessments of over or under valued.

On the other hand, I think that you misstate the investor's sensitivity about short term BTC prices, especially if you are discounting that low coiners and no coiners may well need to spend several years accumulating bitcoin without giving too many shits about BTC prices, especially if they are entering into bitcoin with an investment thesis that is 4-10 years or longer, and surely there are some investors who may well be considering their entrance into bitcoin (and their plans to accumulate bitcoin) as something that carries out 15-30 years or longer, so even if they might change their mind down the road (which they surely have the right to do), they still might consider that they are investing into bitcoin for decently long timelines, so they plan their BTC accumulation strategy in accordance with regularly buying bitcoin and without giving any shits about short term BTC price movements, and they might even consider that anything currently under $1 million per BTC is a good deal, so they accumulate BTC no matter the price.... and they also may well not be in a position to lump sum invest into bitcoin, so their $100 per week (or even their $10 per week) is not going to make too much of a difference if the BTC price happens to be $108k, $93k, $61k or even $236k....

Once some of the newbie investors accumulate bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer, there may be some point in which they start to become more interested in monitoring the BTC price and attempts to strategize their additional purchases on dips rather than regularly, consistently, persistently and ongoingly.

Many of you might also fake it to call black--white, but the truth is that the Bitcoin you bought at $10,000 is cheaper than the Bitcoin you bought at $100,000

If someone just came into bitcoin, even within the last couple of years, have never had opportunities to buy bitcoin lower than $16k, and it would be unrealistic for them to turn back the clock or even to guess about where the BTC price might go from here, including that it may well be quite presumptive for them to speculate that BTC prices are ever going below $90k again.. .so they have to be careful about fantasizing regarding what they did in the past or what they could have done or should have done, including that whatever they did do, is already locked in, so sure they  can take that into account in order to try to figure out what they are going to do from here in terms of ongoing BTC accumulation strategies.

and the profit the two would earn when Bitcoin gets to $150,000 aren't the same,

Even guys that got into bitcoin under $10k, perhaps 4 years ago or more, may well feel that they are not in a position to be fucking around with trying to take profits, even if BTC were to reach $150k in the coming weeks or months.

If you might realize that investors do not tend to preoccupy themselves with taking profits, then you might see that there may well be some mental frameworks that you are trying to impose, since you seem to have such an ongoing tendency to preoccupy yourself with profits and/or trading opportunities that you might identify, yet investors might not give too many shits about those short-to-medium term profit factors that you seem to want to measure as being so relevant to your own perspective but not so relevant to a BTC accumulator/HODLer who is way more long-term oriented.

So your preaching about various profits are likely not going to be very relatable for BTC investors who have really gotten into longer term thinking and appreciating a likely beneficial outcome that focuses on either ongoing accumulation or some combination of accumulation and hold rather than including selling into their BTC portfolio management orientations.

let's stop pretending that the value of Bitcoin is always the same at all prices, smart investments and planning are keys.

Sure.. value versus price.. which frequently, I like to consider the 200-WMA as a way of valuating our BTC holdings, yet the mere fact that the BTC spot price and the 200-WMA bounce around relative to each other does not necessarily justify attempting trying to trade upon such variations in value versus price.

You seem to continue to want to suggest that you are smarter than everyone else since you seem to want to promote trading ideas, and surely trading is a specialty that an overwhelming majority of normies are not going to be able to employ in profitable kinds of ways. .including being able to beat a BTC accumulation strategy that spans over 4-10 years or longer and that largely focuses on ongoingly, persistently, consistently and perhaps even aggressively accumulating BTC.  Sure, there may well be some guys (traders) who have been able to beat longer term BTC accumulation strategies, such as beating BTC accumulation strategies that are 8 years or more, yet the mere fact that some guys have been able to beat such regular BTC accumulation strategy surely does not justify that guys fuck around with such a trading strategy, absent maybe some personal specific reason that they would be suitable for the employment of such trading strategies.. .seems like rare individuals, and personally, I think that it is way better to be attempting to figure out what an overwhelming majority of people should be doing (which is likely ongoingly buying BTC) rather than projecting that normies have abilities to fuck around with trading strategies or even  waiting to buy dips rather than getting started and focusing on accumulating as many BTC as they can through buying-oriented strategies over the next 4-10 years or longer without getting distracted into fucking around with selling and without ending up overdoing their own BTC accumulation strategies by failing/refusing to sufficiently/adequately manage their cashflows.

And.. by the way, on a more personal level.. Merry Christmas, Happy New Years, and otherwise happy holidays to you EarnOnVictor.

[GiftedMAN]

However, just like you said that you stared few months ago and it is practically and humanly impossible to grasp everything now perhaps you should give it more time to.... so you shouldn't be in haste before you lead yourself into problem, this discussion or this board is not just an ordinary discussion board but rather a discussion where you don't have to misunderstood things or rush things, how long you joined the forum doesn't matter rather what matters is that at the end of the day you are able to make a difference.

I think it's better to do it properly and normally, buying BTC with DCA is most comfortable to do manually, if it feels right, just buy and buy according to our financial capabilities.

Everything that looks sophisticated and is considered helpful has an expiration date and will be abandoned, especially if it is problematic and deviates from the desired function.

Investing must be relaxed.

Yea you are very much correct bro, investing must be done in a relax manner because if for any reason you invest more than you can afford to do away without for a very long time or you invest aggressively, more than your capabilities, at some point you may struggle in not tempering with your investment, because when money meant for other things are being diverted for an investment purpose, their will be too much pressure on your emergency fund and your discretionary income, so if the emergency fund is not large enough to carry the burden, you will be forced to temper with your investment if the emergency situation at hand is too important to ignore.

You made a great point here and I agree with you, Bitcoin investment and every other investment out there must be be done in a way that the investor is not placed in a state of restlessness after doing an investment this is the more reason why everyone who chooses a long term investment is advised to have different stream of income so that they are not dependent on the funds they invested in Bitcoin because it will affect their chances of making profit if they are not relaxed when the price is not increasing.

An amount that is to be invested in Bitcoin shouldn't be an amount that is meant for other things because there will also be needs in the family that's why one should have s spare money that should be used for investment only, coming to the forum there has been a popular saying that one should invest with an amount that he or she is willing to lose not just because the investor is losing the money but because it will help the investor not to put so much trust in the amount because it will not be helpful to his mental health. Always have an amount set aside for other things and don't use all your money for investment it will save you the stress of running around to pull out your money when there are emergencies in the family. Have a stable source of income if you must be a good investor and know the amount to use for your investment.

[Bd officer]

An amount that is to be invested in Bitcoin shouldn't be an amount that is meant for other things because there will also be needs in the family that's why one should have s spare money that should be used for investment only, coming to the forum there has been a popular saying that one should invest with an amount that he or she is willing to lose not just because the investor is losing the money but because it will help the investor not to put so much trust in the amount because it will not be helpful to his mental health. Always have an amount set aside for other things and don't use all your money for investment it will save you the stress of running around to pull out your money when there are emergencies in the family. Have a stable source of income if you must be a good investor and know the amount to use for your investment.

Yes, in order to invest in Bitcoin one should not invest more money than one can afford to lose. Now if you invest more money than you can afford to lose then it will be risky for you to hold the investment for long. If you invest with what you can afford to lose then you don't need to sell bitcoins for urgent needs. Besides, money should be saved for emergency use. Now I never invest more money than I can afford to lose. I invest as much as I can. Besides, I have a separate fund for emergency needs. I invest safely, because I don't need to sell bitcoins for urgent needs. However, the price of bitcoin has dropped a bit so no one will be disappointed here, buy and hold bitcoin.

happy new year

[Barikui1]

An amount that is to be invested in Bitcoin shouldn't be an amount that is meant for other things because there will also be needs in the family that's why one should have s spare money that should be used for investment only, coming to the forum there has been a popular saying that one should invest with an amount that he or she is willing to lose not just because the investor is losing the money but because it will help the investor not to put so much trust in the amount because it will not be helpful to his mental health. Always have an amount set aside for other things and don't use all your money for investment it will save you the stress of running around to pull out your money when there are emergencies in the family. Have a stable source of income if you must be a good investor and know the amount to use for your investment.

Yes, in order to invest in Bitcoin one should not invest more money than one can afford to lose. Now if you invest more money than you can afford to lose then it will be risky for you to hold the investment for long. If you invest with what you can afford to lose then you don't need to sell bitcoins for urgent needs. Besides, money should be saved for emergency use. Now I never invest more money than I can afford to lose.

Investing with an amount you can afford to lose? No.
Who would want to be investing in something he is not certain off?
Or are you trying to say that it's very much important to invest an amount of money you can do away without for a very long period of time?
Know the difference between these two statement bro.
Though we live in a world full of uncertainty, but no body would want to invest his or her money in something that is 50/50. Bitcoin investment is not gambling bro, but in my own opinion the ideal word you should be saying is invest only what you can do away with in a very long period of time, so that you wouldn't fall back to your investment when in serious financial needs.

[GiftedMAN]

An amount that is to be invested in Bitcoin shouldn't be an amount that is meant for other things because there will also be needs in the family that's why one should have s spare money that should be used for investment only, coming to the forum there has been a popular saying that one should invest with an amount that he or she is willing to lose not just because the investor is losing the money but because it will help the investor not to put so much trust in the amount because it will not be helpful to his mental health. Always have an amount set aside for other things and don't use all your money for investment it will save you the stress of running around to pull out your money when there are emergencies in the family. Have a stable source of income if you must be a good investor and know the amount to use for your investment.

Yes, in order to invest in Bitcoin one should not invest more money than one can afford to lose. Now if you invest more money than you can afford to lose then it will be risky for you to hold the investment for long. If you invest with what you can afford to lose then you don't need to sell bitcoins for urgent needs. Besides, money should be saved for emergency use. Now I never invest more money than I can afford to lose.

Investing with an amount you can afford to lose? No.
Who would want to be investing in something he is not certain off?
Or are you trying to say that it's very much important to invest an amount of money you can do away without for a very long period of time?
Know the difference between these two statement bro.
Though we live in a world full of uncertainty, but no body would want to invest his or her money in something that is 50/50. Bitcoin investment is not gambling bro, but in my own opinion the ideal word you should be saying is invest only what you can do away with in a very long period of time, so that you wouldn't fall back to your investment when in serious financial needs.

The word what you can afford to lose is what I think you misunderstood because that word doesn't necessarily mean you are investing to lose your money, do not get it twisted, there is no guarantee that every Bitcoin investor is going make profit unless the investor understands what Bitcoin investment is all about and is able to take advantage of the market to buy during the dip so they can take profit during the bull.

The mindset of every investor is to make profit but being honest I think there is no certainty that every investor will make profit as some have even gone broke as a result of wrong investment plans, Bitcoin investment doesn't guarantee 100 percent profit but it doesn't mean the investor will lose everything if he understands what he's doing.

[Taskford]

Yes, in order to invest in Bitcoin one should not invest more money than one can afford to lose. Now if you invest more money than you can afford to lose then it will be risky for you to hold the investment for long. If you invest with what you can afford to lose then you don't need to sell bitcoins for urgent needs. Besides, money should be saved for emergency use. Now I never invest more money than I can afford to lose.

Investing with an amount you can afford to lose? No.
Who would want to be investing in something he is not certain off?
Or are you trying to say that it's very much important to invest an amount of money you can do away without for a very long period of time?
Know the difference between these two statement bro.
Though we live in a world full of uncertainty, but no body would want to invest his or her money in something that is 50/50. Bitcoin investment is not gambling bro, but in my own opinion the ideal word you should be saying is invest only what you can do away with in a very long period of time, so that you wouldn't fall back to your investment when in serious financial needs.

The word what you can afford to lose is what I think you misunderstood because that word doesn't necessarily mean you are investing to lose your money, do not get it twisted, there is no guarantee that every Bitcoin investor is going make profit unless the investor understands what Bitcoin investment is all about and is able to take advantage of the market to buy during the dip so they can take profit during the bull.

The mindset of every investor is to make profit but being honest I think there is no certainty that every investor will make profit as some have even gone broke as a result of wrong investment plans, Bitcoin investment doesn't guarantee 100 percent profit but it doesn't mean the investor will lose everything if he understands what he's doing.

I guess those words belong only on trading since we know how risky the nature of this activity that's why people should think about that way.

But they would never think about that when they are accumulating for long term since they are not dealing with more bigger risk since by using DCA it eliminates what they have worried since at anytime they can set up their buy orders especially if they understand on to make everything work according to their plans set. People just need to be patience and stick on their target so that everything will goes well on their long term journey with Bitcoin.

[Sim_card]

An amount that is to be invested in Bitcoin shouldn't be an amount that is meant for other things because there will also be needs in the family that's why one should have s spare money that should be used for investment only, coming to the forum there has been a popular saying that one should invest with an amount that he or she is willing to lose not just because the investor is losing the money but because it will help the investor not to put so much trust in the amount because it will not be helpful to his mental health. Always have an amount set aside for other things and don't use all your money for investment it will save you the stress of running around to pull out your money when there are emergencies in the family. Have a stable source of income if you must be a good investor and know the amount to use for your investment.

Yes, in order to invest in Bitcoin one should not invest more money than one can afford to lose. Now if you invest more money than you can afford to lose then it will be risky for you to hold the investment for long. If you invest with what you can afford to lose then you don't need to sell bitcoins for urgent needs. Besides, money should be saved for emergency use. Now I never invest more money than I can afford to lose.

Investing with an amount you can afford to lose? No.
Who would want to be investing in something he is not certain off?
Or are you trying to say that it's very much important to invest an amount of money you can do away without for a very long period of time?
Know the difference between these two statement bro.
Though we live in a world full of uncertainty, but no body would want to invest his or her money in something that is 50/50. Bitcoin investment is not gambling bro, but in my own opinion the ideal word you should be saying is invest only what you can do away with in a very long period of time, so that you wouldn't fall back to your investment when in serious financial needs.

The word what you can afford to lose is what I think you misunderstood because that word doesn't necessarily mean you are investing to lose your money, do not get it twisted, there is no guarantee that every Bitcoin investor is going make profit unless the investor understands what Bitcoin investment is all about and is able to take advantage of the market to buy during the dip so they can take profit during the bull.

Buying bitcoin during the dip and sell during the bull run shouldn't be our target or our focus but rather we should think and have a long-term goal mindset, so that we can have good size of bitcoin portfolio in the long run for our future. Bitcoin investment is best when you keep on buying, building and growing your bitcoin for longer time frame and hodli. Don't think about a circle profit because if you do and sell during the bull run because you bought during the dip, you are doing yourself harm because you will miss out the compounding effect of your bitcoin portfolio and will have will turn into a no coiner after selling.

Starting all over again should be your plan when your plan should be to keep your accumulation journey ongoing without selling a dime with constant DCA weekly overtime till you reach your bitcoin target. Why will you destroy what you have built for some years because of dollar profit, when bitcoin future is far brighter than one circle.

[Mayor of ogba]

To buy bitcoin doesn't have a perfect time to buy bitcoin but I know that investing in Bitcoin what you to know concerning bitcoin investment is for you to know when you will invest, because probably bitcoin investment is something that  someone who have courage can do, and if you're money conscious person you will not think to keep your investment just a few time of investment, don't panic because bitcoin investment know the condition of every cryptocurrency investment.

You are right that investing in bitcoin doesn't have a perfect time, but at some point in your post, you said someone needs to know when to invest in bitcoin, which is not the right thing to say in a thread like this because someone can't figure out the right time to invest in bitcoin, and it will likely make newbies figure out the right time to invest in bitcoin when they are supposed to start their bitcoin investment right away when their accumulation money is readily available. You will not need courage to invest in bitcoin if you invest in bitcoin within your discretionary income or with the money you will not need for 4-10 years or more because you used the money that is not allocated to solve your daily expenses to invest in bitcoin, which will always allow you to invest in bitcoin freely and take care of your daily expenses.

[Ruttoshi]

An amount that is to be invested in Bitcoin shouldn't be an amount that is meant for other things because there will also be needs in the family that's why one should have s spare money that should be used for investment only, coming to the forum there has been a popular saying that one should invest with an amount that he or she is willing to lose not just because the investor is losing the money but because it will help the investor not to put so much trust in the amount because it will not be helpful to his mental health. Always have an amount set aside for other things and don't use all your money for investment it will save you the stress of running around to pull out your money when there are emergencies in the family. Have a stable source of income if you must be a good investor and know the amount to use for your investment.

Yes, in order to invest in Bitcoin one should not invest more money than one can afford to lose. Now if you invest more money than you can afford to lose then it will be risky for you to hold the investment for long. If you invest with what you can afford to lose then you don't need to sell bitcoins for urgent needs. Besides, money should be saved for emergency use. Now I never invest more money than I can afford to lose.

Investing with an amount you can afford to lose? No.
Who would want to be investing in something he is not certain off?
Or are you trying to say that it's very much important to invest an amount of money you can do away without for a very long period of time?
Know the difference between these two statement bro.
Though we live in a world full of uncertainty, but no body would want to invest his or her money in something that is 50/50. Bitcoin investment is not gambling bro, but in my own opinion the ideal word you should be saying is invest only what you can do away with in a very long period of time, so that you wouldn't fall back to your investment when in serious financial needs.

The word what you can afford to lose is what I think you misunderstood because that word doesn't necessarily mean you are investing to lose your money, do not get it twisted, there is no guarantee that every Bitcoin investor is going make profit unless the investor understands what Bitcoin investment is all about and is able to take advantage of the market to buy during the dip so they can take profit during the bull.

The mindset of every investor is to make profit but being honest I think there is no certainty that every investor will make profit as some have even gone broke as a result of wrong investment plans, Bitcoin investment doesn't guarantee 100 percent profit but it doesn't mean the investor will lose everything if he understands what he's doing.

[sotelorene]

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Such a thing does not need to be assumed because most people can also see that at this time there are already many rich people with deep pockets who want to buy Bitcoin without thinking about the expensive costs. Because people who already understand Bitcoin will never stop buying Bitcoin and they will even continue to be enthusiastic in buying when they see the price of Bitcoin which has increased. But if you do not have deep enough pockets to be able to buy Bitcoin in large quantities, you can still buy it little by little because that can also be a good option for people who do not have that much money.

Previously, you had to differentiate between price and cost. Price is the value of the bitcoin itself being traded, while fees are the amount you have to spend to make transactions with bitcoin on the network, or also trading fees. Anyone can buy any amount of bitcoin, but you will definitely find exchanges setting a minimum amount. Anyone who knows about Bitcoin's long-term potential will likely invest in it, but no one can force you to invest if you don't believe in this potential.

Whether or not someone invests heavily in bitcoin also depends on how well they are able to weigh the risks. They may have sufficient budget power, but they should not invest in bitcoin using all their money without any consideration.

When it comes to bitcoin investment there's risk however how high or low the risk is depend on the type of strategy they are using if you are into Bitcoin trading then there's a high risk but if you are into Long term Bitcoin investment there's low risk so if you are going into Bitcoin investment you should be able to understand the result of chosing any of the strategy.
We all know that one of the reasons for Bitcoin investment risk is it's volatility however it's volatility doesn't negatively affects your investment as a Long term hodler, the significant gap between its current price and its potential future value prevents Bitcoin's volatility from having a major impact over the long term holders so it simply means that going for long term holding is less risky than trading.

It is not advisable to use all your capital for Bitcoin investment the only capital that is advisable to use is your Discretionary income and the reason why it is advised to use your Discretionary income is so that you will be able to settle your bills with your income that way you won't be tempted to dip hands into your Bitcoin investment to settle bills, using only your Discretionary income reduces the temptation to dipping hands into your Bitcoin investment.

you are actually right, but bitcoin trading and bitcoin investment is not really a strategy per say but perhaps it is an aspect or a classification which everyone interested will have to chose and venture into and then the strategy is what they use to make profit or what help people attain what they really want in that classification or aspect they are into. and i have come to realize that the reason why some people touch there investment when it is not due is because whenever they are investing, they do not know what figure to invest and that is a result of poor financial management skill and until they work on themselves they can not really go far in any investment even outside bitcoin. Volatility is not actually a bitcoin investment risk rather it is a risk to bitcoin traders because if they predict the market to go up and at the end of the day the market go the opposite direction at that point in time they are already on loss but bitcoin investor do not predict they invest and hold so whether up or down they do not care.

[Shadiq]

Yes, in order to invest in Bitcoin one should not invest more money than one can afford to lose. Now if you invest more money than you can afford to lose then it will be risky for you to hold the investment for long. If you invest with what you can afford to lose then you don't need to sell bitcoins for urgent needs. Besides, money should be saved for emergency use. Now I never invest more money than I can afford to lose. I invest as much as I can. Besides, I have a separate fund for emergency needs. I invest safely, because I don't need to sell bitcoins for urgent needs. However, the price of bitcoin has dropped a bit so no one will be disappointed here, buy and hold bitcoin.

It is absolutely safe to invest money that you can afford to lose, that is, unnecessary money. It is best to invest the money that you have left after meeting your monthly needs, which is completely worthless or not necessary for you. If you are investing with the necessary money or the money that is incomplete to meet your monthly needs or the money that you will need before reaching your investment goal in the near future or in a few days, it is not safe to invest with that money and this investment is questionable in the long term.

You definitely do not want to keep your investment at risk or questionable in the long term. Investing with the ability to lose means that you are planning or managing your investment with long-term investment protection. Starting an investment is easy but making it successful is difficult. That is why you need to give equal importance to long-term planning along with investing. Holding it in the long term is the most important and difficult task of investing. You need to focus on this and try to make the difficult task easy.

[JayJuanGee]

An amount that is to be invested in Bitcoin shouldn't be an amount that is meant for other things because there will also be needs in the family that's why one should have s spare money that should be used for investment only, coming to the forum there has been a popular saying that one should invest with an amount that he or she is willing to lose not just because the investor is losing the money but because it will help the investor not to put so much trust in the amount because it will not be helpful to his mental health. Always have an amount set aside for other things and don't use all your money for investment it will save you the stress of running around to pull out your money when there are emergencies in the family. Have a stable source of income if you must be a good investor and know the amount to use for your investment.

Yes, in order to invest in Bitcoin one should not invest more money than one can afford to lose. Now if you invest more money than you can afford to lose then it will be risky for you to hold the investment for long. If you invest with what you can afford to lose then you don't need to sell bitcoins for urgent needs. Besides, money should be saved for emergency use. Now I never invest more money than I can afford to lose.

Investing with an amount you can afford to lose? No.
Who would want to be investing in something he is not certain off?
Or are you trying to say that it's very much important to invest an amount of money you can do away without for a very long period of time?
Know the difference between these two statement bro.
Though we live in a world full of uncertainty, but no body would want to invest his or her money in something that is 50/50. Bitcoin investment is not gambling bro, but in my own opinion the ideal word you should be saying is invest only what you can do away with in a very long period of time, so that you wouldn't fall back to your investment when in serious financial needs.

For sure the expression:  "don't invest anymore than you can afford to lose" has several interpretations, and we might not want to read too much into it - since many of us know that the future is not guaranteed, and an investment can be good , even if its odds of playing out (as planned) are less than 50/50...   We choose our position size on expectations, and yeah once time has passed, then certain scenarios become 100% or nothing based on either they happened or they did not, yet we still did not really know with any level of confidence when we took the bet, or maybe in the case of bitcoin, we are investing $100 per week for 10 years straight, so then after 10 years we have invested right around $52k (that is $5,200 per year), and so we might thinking that in 10 years, relatively acceptable scenarios would be that bitcoin's prices go up 2x or they might go up 10x or more, and sure there are other worse scenarios, yet we are hoping that the positive rather than the negative scenarios play out, but we don't really know for sure... so we choose our position size based on our own personal finances and psychology but also based on our view of bitcoin as an investment versus other places that we could put such value.

Another thing is that if BTC prices go up 10x in 10 years, not all of our BTC has appreciated in price at the same rate, even though perhaps our earliest of investments had achieved the fullest of the 10x price appreciations, yet perhaps our investments in the last 2-5 years might have ONLY gone up 50% or maybe doubled or tripled, so we cannot necessarily treat the whole investment as if it would have gone up 10x, since even though we invested $52k into bitcoin over 10 years, that $52k is not necessarily going to be $520k, but perhaps instead something like $312k and our earliest contributions would have gone up the most, and we can ONLY frontload our investment so much.  Another thing that tends to happen is that income tends to increase, so if we are raising our BTC contribution amounts with the raises in our income (and perhaps raising of our convictions about bitcoin with the passage of time), we may well end up having way more contributions on a dollar denominated way in the later part of our investment as compared to our earlier part of our investment (so we did not end up frontloading our investment), so those later contributions did not have as much time to compound on each other (or appreciate in value) as compared with the earlier portions, so it could well be that a BTC asset that goes up more than 10x in 10 years, our BTC holdings within that account after contributing $52k might be worth less than $200k... there are ways to forward calculate these matter (though filled with uncertainties) and of course, once the time past, we can see how we performed, but that still does not help us in terms of changing the past, yet it ONLY can help us to figure out if we might want to change (or tweak) any of our present practices.

If we don't want to devolve into gambling, we are restricted towards spending within our discretionary income, and yeah we can try to be as aggressive as we are able to do, yet we don't want to overdo it and end up losing BTC because we had overdone it, and we want to make sure that we keep our various relationships in order, which sometimes requires spending some money and contributing to the group rather than being perceived as self-ish and self-centered.  So we have to strike balances in regards to pursuing our best interests but also living our lives in ways that  is not screwing ourselves and/or our relations with others.. whether direct family or otherwise.

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I guess those words belong only on trading since we know how risky the nature of this activity that's why people should think about that way.

But they would never think about that when they are accumulating for long term since they are not dealing with more bigger risk since by using DCA it eliminates what they have worried since at anytime they can set up their buy orders especially if they understand on to make everything work according to their plans set. People just need to be patience and stick on their target so that everything will goes well on their long term journey with Bitcoin.

You may be saying this with more ambiguity than necessary.

DCA does not eliminate risks, but it instead allows us to set our level of aggressiveness within our budget, so that we would not necessarily be overspending, and we spread our investments into bitcoin within the capacities of our discretionary income. 

Surely the more confidence that some of us have in bitcoin, we start to consider that bitcoin is less risky than a lot of other kinds of investments, including being less risky than holding value in fiat, since fiat is damned close to certain (or inevitable) to go down in value, yet it could take several years for us to perceive how much our fiat had gone down (depending on which fiat we have our value), so in the short term, bitcoin can go up or down relative to various fiats, yet it seems that the odds of bitcoin going up in value relative to fiats has very strong possibilities, especially if we look at 4 years or longer, so in that case, we can choose our bitcoin allocation size and even feel that we are likely in a less risky position in regards to the portion that we are holding in bitcoin as compared with other places that we could place such value, whether in fiat or in other places.  Sure we could be wrong about our assessment of risk (or non-risk), yet we can still come to our assessments regarding what we consider to be a place of having familiarity with what bitcoin is - which is a kind of asymmetric form of information, since there are so many folks who seem to hardly have any clues about what bitcoin is, even though they have heard the word and they act like they know what bitcoin is, but some of the bitcoin "know-it-alls" have not spent more than 10 hours studying bitcoin yet still have an opinion about bitcoin.  Many of us become advantaged by knowing about bitcoin, especially once we might start to get into the area of 50-100 or more hours studying bitcoin, as compared with folks who barely have superficial ideas about bitcoin and have put little to no time into trying to learn about what bitcoin is... in order that they can start to take action to get a stake in bitcoin rather than staying on zero and likely continuing to lose out by their failure/refusal to look into it and their failure/refusal to act to start to buy bitcoin (or alternatively buy bitcoin price exposure).

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you are actually right, but bitcoin trading and bitcoin investment is not really a strategy per say but perhaps it is an aspect or a classification which everyone interested will have to chose and venture into and then the strategy is what they use to make profit or what help people attain what they really want in that classification or aspect they are into. and i have come to realize that the reason why some people touch there investment when it is not due is because whenever they are investing, they do not know what figure to invest and that is a result of poor financial management skill and until they work on themselves they can not really go far in any investment even outside bitcoin. Volatility is not actually a bitcoin investment risk rather it is a risk to bitcoin traders because if they predict the market to go up and at the end of the day the market go the opposite direction at that point in time they are already on loss but bitcoin investor do not predict they invest and hold so whether up or down they do not care.

A person could have an annual income of $20k over many years and perhaps receiving 4% to 10% raises per year, depending on if they get promotions or if they stay in the same job position, and they might be aspiring to get their investment to $1 million or close to $1 million so that they can start to live off of the interest from their bitcoin.  They might consider that they might not even have to get their investment to $1 million and as low as $500k might sufficiently serve their purposes, yet $1 million seems to provide a better cushion, so they are shooting to get to their BTC investment being valuated at $1million (hopefully using the 200-WMA rather than spot price, so they might still be learning about how to valuate their BTC investment), and so if the person spends more than 6 years buying $100-ish per week in bitcoin (which is really in the ballpark of 20% of their income, so quite aggressive), they might consider themselves to be investing into bitcoin aggressively and not to be having very much other income for other recreational or life-style type things.  They are mostly paying the bills and living a fairly frugal life.

After 6 years investing into bitcoin, they have put in $31,200, and they are feeling quite good about that, since they put in right around 1.5x of their annual income into bitcoin, and so if bitcoin has appreciated in those 6 years then they would be even better off.

We can look at the past 6 years, and see that $100 per week would have accumulated close to 2 BTC, and so at BTC spot prices that would be $187k and at 200-WMA that would be $85.5k, so the person can feel quite satisfied with his BTC stacking progress, yet he can still be tempted to tap into his bitcoin, even though he is still quite far from his goal of $500k to $1million, yet if he has no other investments or savings and he had never built up such wealth, he can still be tempted to use some of the money.. and I am not even proclaiming that he should not spend some of the money, even though withdrawing some of the money is likely going to slow down his progress towards reaching his goals.  Even if he cashes out less than 10% (such as 0.2 BTC), it will still take him quite a long time to build back that 0.2 BTC, and ultimately it is his choice to do, and I am suggesting that there are so many folks who get way too tempted into tapping into their long term investment and they end up either delaying their progress, or they really fuck up their whole practice of regularly building their investment.  There is no real right answer, except a person trying to reach fuck you status may well never be able to reach fuck you status if they have such bad habits of regularly (or even sporatically) dipping into their investments and messing up their BTC accumulation progress.

[SuperBitMan]

To buy bitcoin doesn't have a perfect time to buy bitcoin but I know that investing in Bitcoin what you to know concerning bitcoin investment is for you to know when you will invest, because probably bitcoin investment is something that  someone who have courage can do, and if you're money conscious person you will not think to keep your investment just a few time of investment, don't panic because bitcoin investment know the condition of every cryptocurrency investment.

You are right that investing in bitcoin doesn't have a perfect time, but at some point in your post, you said someone needs to know when to invest in bitcoin, which is not the right thing to say in a thread like this because someone can't figure out the right time to invest in bitcoin, and it will likely make newbies figure out the right time to invest in bitcoin when they are supposed to start their bitcoin investment right away when their accumulation money is readily available. You will not need courage to invest in bitcoin if you invest in bitcoin within your discretionary income or with the money you will not need for 4-10 years or more because you used the money that is not allocated to solve your daily expenses to invest in bitcoin, which will always allow you to invest in bitcoin freely and take care of your daily expenses.

Yes there is no fixed time or perfect time to invest in Bitcoin. If you buy bitcoin today, is the best time for you and if you buy bitcoin tomorrow, is the best time for you. Whenever you buy bitcoins it will be the best time for you. Although there is no fixed time to buy bitcoins we should buy bitcoins immediately. We should aim not to delay in buying Bitcoin because the way Bitcoin price is increasing day by day maybe if we don't buy Bitcoin now then we will regret when Bitcoin price increases in future.

However, long-term Bitcoin investment plans should be prepared for at least eight years or up to 10 years. The more sources of income a person has, the longer their investment will last. So create a source of income keep some of the money you earn from that source for investment and use the rest for daily expenses.

Yeah you are right, there are people who had the opportunity to buy Bitcoin 10 years ago but refused to buy because they feel Bitcoin won't be valuable and now they are regretting, some of them feels is already late for them to start Bitcoin accumulation for those set of people is not late for them they can still start there accumulation journey, those set of people that are also just knowing about Bitcoin investment is not late for them.
Bitcoin still has a long way to go and it has not reached half of it's growth limit so for now is not late the only time we can say Bitcoin is late for people to start accumulating is when Bitcoin has reached its growth limit.

your statement that The more sources of income a person has, the longer their investment will last, it is true that having a source of income is one criteria that can help your investment last because when you have a source of income it will prevent the urge of you dipping hands into your investment however this is not the only way to help you hold your Bitcoin for long term you need to have a strong emergency, reserve and float funds and also have a management skill, this things together with your good source of income will help you hold for a very long term.

[Blueswiss]

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And if I may ask @JJG how much Bitcoin do you think or feel an investor should accumulate in less than a year. However, how people are able to accumulate enough Bitcoin shouldn't dismay you because there are people who are stinkingly rich and this kind of people accumulating enough Bitcoin in their portfolio wouldn't be a problem or big deal to them regardless of the market price and I want to believe some of them don't usually use the DCA but rather the lump sum and their 3 - 4 times lump sum can be some investor's 4-6 years of DCAing if not more.

When it comes to investing, there is no set rule as to how much bitcoin you should accumulate in a year. For investing in Bitcoin some people buy large amounts of Bitcoins while others buy small amounts of Bitcoins. So it is clear that those who regularly buy large amount of bitcoins will grow their investment portfolio very quickly in a short period of time and those who regularly buy small amount of bitcoins will grow their investment portfolio slowly and their investment portfolio will take longer to grow.

If we look at MicroStrategy's investment strategy, it can be seen that they are currently buying Bitcoin at a very fast pace. They have purchased a large amount of Bitcoins in the last two months which has resulted in their investment portfolio growing very rapidly in a short span of time.

No matter how big the Bitcoin investment is, we only need to keep in mind that holding Bitcoin in the future days, institutions or individuals who are there will mainly depend on holding Bitcoin for their investment. Some investors who are there mainly hold it for a short time. I think such a move is wrong, because if that person increases the duration of his investment, then I think his Bitcoin benefit will definitely increase several times.
Among them, the microstrategy company is playing one of the roles, because the duration of their investment will depend on them for the next few years. They have invested the most Bitcoin in these two months, November and December, but in these two months they have bought the DCA method and deep.

The holding may look small in your portfolio in the bearish season, but do everything possible in your capacity to hold the Bitcoin for long term before you will dream on how to release them for sale and it will help you to make a huge income from Bitcoin. Have you come to ask yourself why some big men and poor men wish to hold Bitcoin in the bearish season, because they know that is the best season to use Dollars to purchase some huge amount of Bitcoins that will allow them to boost their income when the bullish season appear in the market.  I don't think, those that have the skills of Bitcoin holding will use this month of December to accumulate Bitcoin, because the price of Bitcoin is still high for majority of investors to purchase Bitcoin than to wait for the bearish season investors are waiting to come before they can purchase and hold Bitcoin for another bullish season. Well, using the method of DCA to accumulate Bitcoin is very good to those investors that have other sources of income, because you need to have what will be sustaining you in the bearish season not to sell your Bitcoin than to wait for your target to happen in the bullish season before you can sell to take a double income.

I think the issue of Bitcoin price been high has been tabled and deliberated on so why saying the price of Bitcoin is high again and i have come to realize that what one speak of something is how that particular thing will appear to them, it is more like having a belief on something so having this mindset can or will make you not to invest in this period. The price of Bitcoin has depreciated to $92k plus and perhaps it is a nice time to buy and hold because the price we are going to see this year new will be massive and incredible. However, talking about selling in the bullish makes me feel that you are a short term investors because a long term investor won't be talking about selling their Bitcoin now because they knew the potential of Bitcoin though selling Bitcoin in the bullish won't be a bad idea if an investors started holding for like 6-7 years ago.

Whether a bitcoin holder is in a position to sell after being in bitcoin for 6-7 years is not merely a function of how long he has been in bitcoin, yet also how many BTC he had accumulated.

If you are thinking about selling BTC merely because it is in good profits and you have been in for 6-7 years, then you still seem to be trading rather than investing.

We need to know details in order to figure out whether such person might have had transitioned from accumulation stage to maintenance to liquidation.

I have a hard time imagining a regular investor (even one who had been investing for 7-ish years) getting to a point of being served by selling his bitcoin, unless he had been able to significantly front load his investment.  Let's go with an example of the person who has been investing around 10% of his salary into bitcoin, and so he had been earning $30k to $50k in the past 7 years and investing around $100 per week, and so after 7 years he had invested $36,600 and he had accumulated 2.71 BTC.

If we look at the 200-WMA value of his 2.71 BTC as compared with the spot price, we have $116k versus $250k, which would ONLY be around 2-5x his annual income, which seems way too premature to be considering the quantity of BTC to have reached a status of enough or more than enough...  We can come to differing assessments about this and truly we could consider scenarios in which a person of similar means would have had been able to accumulate 2-10x more bitcoin within the same timeline, which would put him in a much better position to be able to assess that he has enough BTC or more than enough BTC in order to start to feel at liberty to start selling some of his BTC.  Imagine a scenario in which the same person was able to front load most of his investment, which means that maybe he could have had bought most of his BTC stash in 2018 while the BTC price was going down, and so maybe he could have had achieved a $36,600 investment into BTC with an average BTC price of around $6k - which surely would have had put him at right around 6 BTC, and if he had been able to figure out ways to garner up more funds (such as if he had already been an experienced investor and he could reallocate from other investments into bitcoin), then surely he might have been able to accumulate 20 or more BTC, which would surely put him at a better status, and likely even able to sustain an income off of his bitcoin stash that would match his current level of income, if that might be what he might be wanting to achieve.

Sure the amount of time in bitcoin certainly helps to figure out if a person had been able to put himself in a position of overaccumulation of BTC, yet we likely need to know more beyond just the fact that the guy had spent a longer time accumulating BTC in order to know if he might have been able to put himself into a position of being able to start to sell some of his BTC either based on price and/or based on time.

I vehemently agree with you, with the rapid growth of Bitcoin every wise investor who hasn't invested in it ought to start investing now as Bitcoin will be more capital intensive within a short period from now.

[Frankolala]

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And if I may ask @JJG how much Bitcoin do you think or feel an investor should accumulate in less than a year. However, how people are able to accumulate enough Bitcoin shouldn't dismay you because there are people who are stinkingly rich and this kind of people accumulating enough Bitcoin in their portfolio wouldn't be a problem or big deal to them regardless of the market price and I want to believe some of them don't usually use the DCA but rather the lump sum and their 3 - 4 times lump sum can be some investor's 4-6 years of DCAing if not more.

When it comes to investing, there is no set rule as to how much bitcoin you should accumulate in a year. For investing in Bitcoin some people buy large amounts of Bitcoins while others buy small amounts of Bitcoins. So it is clear that those who regularly buy large amount of bitcoins will grow their investment portfolio very quickly in a short period of time and those who regularly buy small amount of bitcoins will grow their investment portfolio slowly and their investment portfolio will take longer to grow.

If we look at MicroStrategy's investment strategy, it can be seen that they are currently buying Bitcoin at a very fast pace. They have purchased a large amount of Bitcoins in the last two months which has resulted in their investment portfolio growing very rapidly in a short span of time.

No matter how big the Bitcoin investment is, we only need to keep in mind that holding Bitcoin in the future days, institutions or individuals who are there will mainly depend on holding Bitcoin for their investment. Some investors who are there mainly hold it for a short time. I think such a move is wrong, because if that person increases the duration of his investment, then I think his Bitcoin benefit will definitely increase several times.
Among them, the microstrategy company is playing one of the roles, because the duration of their investment will depend on them for the next few years. They have invested the most Bitcoin in these two months, November and December, but in these two months they have bought the DCA method and deep.

The holding may look small in your portfolio in the bearish season, but do everything possible in your capacity to hold the Bitcoin for long term before you will dream on how to release them for sale and it will help you to make a huge income from Bitcoin. Have you come to ask yourself why some big men and poor men wish to hold Bitcoin in the bearish season, because they know that is the best season to use Dollars to purchase some huge amount of Bitcoins that will allow them to boost their income when the bullish season appear in the market.  I don't think, those that have the skills of Bitcoin holding will use this month of December to accumulate Bitcoin, because the price of Bitcoin is still high for majority of investors to purchase Bitcoin than to wait for the bearish season investors are waiting to come before they can purchase and hold Bitcoin for another bullish season. Well, using the method of DCA to accumulate Bitcoin is very good to those investors that have other sources of income, because you need to have what will be sustaining you in the bearish season not to sell your Bitcoin than to wait for your target to happen in the bullish season before you can sell to take a double income.

I think the issue of Bitcoin price been high has been tabled and deliberated on so why saying the price of Bitcoin is high again and i have come to realize that what one speak of something is how that particular thing will appear to them, it is more like having a belief on something so having this mindset can or will make you not to invest in this period. The price of Bitcoin has depreciated to $92k plus and perhaps it is a nice time to buy and hold because the price we are going to see this year new will be massive and incredible. However, talking about selling in the bullish makes me feel that you are a short term investors because a long term investor won't be talking about selling their Bitcoin now because they knew the potential of Bitcoin though selling Bitcoin in the bullish won't be a bad idea if an investors started holding for like 6-7 years ago.

Whether a bitcoin holder is in a position to sell after being in bitcoin for 6-7 years is not merely a function of how long he has been in bitcoin, yet also how many BTC he had accumulated.

If you are thinking about selling BTC merely because it is in good profits and you have been in for 6-7 years, then you still seem to be trading rather than investing.

We need to know details in order to figure out whether such person might have had transitioned from accumulation stage to maintenance to liquidation.

I have a hard time imagining a regular investor (even one who had been investing for 7-ish years) getting to a point of being served by selling his bitcoin, unless he had been able to significantly front load his investment.  Let's go with an example of the person who has been investing around 10% of his salary into bitcoin, and so he had been earning $30k to $50k in the past 7 years and investing around $100 per week, and so after 7 years he had invested $36,600 and he had accumulated 2.71 BTC.

If we look at the 200-WMA value of his 2.71 BTC as compared with the spot price, we have $116k versus $250k, which would ONLY be around 2-5x his annual income, which seems way too premature to be considering the quantity of BTC to have reached a status of enough or more than enough...  We can come to differing assessments about this and truly we could consider scenarios in which a person of similar means would have had been able to accumulate 2-10x more bitcoin within the same timeline, which would put him in a much better position to be able to assess that he has enough BTC or more than enough BTC in order to start to feel at liberty to start selling some of his BTC.  Imagine a scenario in which the same person was able to front load most of his investment, which means that maybe he could have had bought most of his BTC stash in 2018 while the BTC price was going down, and so maybe he could have had achieved a $36,600 investment into BTC with an average BTC price of around $6k - which surely would have had put him at right around 6 BTC, and if he had been able to figure out ways to garner up more funds (such as if he had already been an experienced investor and he could reallocate from other investments into bitcoin), then surely he might have been able to accumulate 20 or more BTC, which would surely put him at a better status, and likely even able to sustain an income off of his bitcoin stash that would match his current level of income, if that might be what he might be wanting to achieve.

Sure the amount of time in bitcoin certainly helps to figure out if a person had been able to put himself in a position of overaccumulation of BTC, yet we likely need to know more beyond just the fact that the guy had spent a longer time accumulating BTC in order to know if he might have been able to put himself into a position of being able to start to sell some of his BTC either based on price and/or based on time.

I vehemently agree with you, with the rapid growth of Bitcoin every wise investor who hasn't invested in it ought to start investing now as Bitcoin will be more capital intensive within a short period from now.

Bitcoin is a long-term investment and not for short-term, because long-term investment plan gives you more confidence and opportunity to build and grow your bitcoin investment overtime. It's good that you invest in bitcoin and see it as yiur retirement funds in future so that you will bs able to be consistent in your buying and stay focus on your target, because you want a good investment that will givw you financial confidence and increment in future. Don't get carried away with short-term profits, and as a new investor, profit shouldn't be what you should capitalize on, but how to continue with your bitcoin accumulation overtime.

Of course, is better to get started right away, if you have figured out how mucj of your discretionary income that's cool with you to keep your bitcoin accumulation consistent, and ongoing with DCA buying strategy every week or month for 4-10 years and above.

[red4slash]

But they would never think about that when they are accumulating for long term since they are not dealing with more bigger risk since by using DCA it eliminates what they have worried since at anytime they can set up their buy orders especially if they understand on to make everything work according to their plans set. People just need to be patience and stick on their target so that everything will goes well on their long term journey with Bitcoin.

The concept is not like that buddy because even though we do it with DCA, it doesn't mean we don't think about risk because in the end, regardless of the method, risk still exists, especially when talking about where we invest. Bitcoin is one of the risky aspects of investment and we must be prepared for all possibilities including loss if we really want to be here.

So whatever we take in terms of strategy in accumulating bitcoin whether it's DCA or buy on the dip or even lump sum everything has a risk in the end.

So that we cannot let go of the word risk from the investments we make so that in the end we realize that being in bitcoin is not as comfortable as thought because even though we will get good things when our goals are achieved but in the end all the risks are clearly very present and we must be prepared with all of that.

[Tonimez]

But they would never think about that when they are accumulating for long term since they are not dealing with more bigger risk since by using DCA it eliminates what they have worried since at anytime they can set up their buy orders especially if they understand on to make everything work according to their plans set. People just need to be patience and stick on their target so that everything will goes well on their long term journey with Bitcoin.

The concept is not like that buddy because even though we do it with DCA, it doesn't mean we don't think about risk because in the end, regardless of the method, risk still exists, especially when talking about where we invest. Bitcoin is one of the risky aspects of investment and we must be prepared for all possibilities including loss if we really want to be here.

So whatever we take in terms of strategy in accumulating bitcoin whether it's DCA or buy on the dip or even lump sum everything has a risk in the end.

So that we cannot let go of the word risk from the investments we make so that in the end we realize that being in bitcoin is not as comfortable as thought because even though we will get good things when our goals are achieved but in the end all the risks are clearly very present and we must be prepared with all of that.

Life itself is risky and not taking risk is also a risk. When you talk about investing with DCA it appears like it's an unwanted fund. No matter how discretionary an amount is, there are definitely other areas of problems it could have solved.

In my own understanding, investing only DCA doesn't takeaway the heartbreak that could possibly come with a different outcome.

Buying of bitcoin is something everyone who has the means would love to do. But  sometimes, fear is the real thief of opportunity.
To survive in the bitcoin market, every investor should count every invested amount as a possible luck -trap which could make one smile anyday or move on completely like he never invested at the first place.
Accumulation of bitcoin by anyone who has a complete understanding of its concept will be a continuous buy buy thing.

[Bd officer]

An amount that is to be invested in Bitcoin shouldn't be an amount that is meant for other things because there will also be needs in the family that's why one should have s spare money that should be used for investment only, coming to the forum there has been a popular saying that one should invest with an amount that he or she is willing to lose not just because the investor is losing the money but because it will help the investor not to put so much trust in the amount because it will not be helpful to his mental health. Always have an amount set aside for other things and don't use all your money for investment it will save you the stress of running around to pull out your money when there are emergencies in the family. Have a stable source of income if you must be a good investor and know the amount to use for your investment.

Yes, in order to invest in Bitcoin one should not invest more money than one can afford to lose. Now if you invest more money than you can afford to lose then it will be risky for you to hold the investment for long. If you invest with what you can afford to lose then you don't need to sell bitcoins for urgent needs. Besides, money should be saved for emergency use. Now I never invest more money than I can afford to lose.

Investing with an amount you can afford to lose? No.
Who would want to be investing in something he is not certain off?
Or are you trying to say that it's very much important to invest an amount of money you can do away without for a very long period of time?
Know the difference between these two statement bro.
Though we live in a world full of uncertainty, but no body would want to invest his or her money in something that is 50/50. Bitcoin investment is not gambling bro, but in my own opinion the ideal word you should be saying is invest only what you can do away with in a very long period of time, so that you wouldn't fall back to your investment when in serious financial needs.

Now how do you recommend me to invest? Now I believe Bitcoin is definitely profitable to hold long term (but there is some uncertainty, where there is some risk? But you can't guarantee 100%. Now I can't invest more than I can afford. 

Now I should not invest all my money, because everyone has a family and has to spend for the family. Besides, a separate fund should be set aside for emergencies, as danger may strike at any time. Besides, everyone expects a bear market to start in 2026, so can you be safe with all your money invested? So I invest in DCA method as much as I can afford to lose. Now I don't focus on the price, I prefer to buy bitcoins at any price. I started investing with a long term plan. So I invest as much as I can.