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January 02, 2025, 09:14:59 PM
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Knowing when btc price falling and increase does make it worth investing on,  as much some competition would try to make fault out of the the system it has been, I will say it perfect especially with DCA method of investing, keep investing and accumulate as much you can for better profit is the best in btc market
Early investor and the luckiest but there's never bad time to invest btc and that's most fascinating about and attract more investor and that way the transaction rate is high.
Is good to know more about the btc market like other method of investing to know what you are in the market for but it best to use DCA method as is the best for now
Price volatility gives you the opportunity to buy low and sell high. It's not about day trading, but the focus is on investing. When you maximize DCA all the time, the average price of the Bitcoin you buy will certainly be lower than other purchasing methods. There are times when you buy at a high price, then there are times when you buy at a correction price, this makes the average price lower.

When you invest not for your future assets, then maybe you need to set a time when to exit and save the returns you get. I say this because basically everyone's investment goals are different, even though the goal is actually to get a return. If you have set a time or target, then leave when the target is achieved and you must be disciplined with it.

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Knowing when btc price falling and increase does make it worth investing on,  as much some competition would try to make fault out of the the system it has been, I will say it perfect especially with DCA method of investing, keep investing and accumulate as much you can for better profit is the best in btc market
Early investor and the luckiest but there's never bad time to invest btc and that's most fascinating about and attract more investor and that way the transaction rate is high.
Is good to know more about the btc market like other method of investing to know what you are in the market for but it best to use DCA method as is the best for now
Price volatility gives you the opportunity to buy low and sell high. It's not about day trading, but the focus is on investing. When you maximize DCA all the time, the average price of the Bitcoin you buy will certainly be lower than other purchasing methods. There are times when you buy at a high price, then there are times when you buy at a correction price, this makes the average price lower.

When you invest not for your future assets, then maybe you need to set a time when to exit and save the returns you get. I say this because basically everyone's investment goals are different, even though the goal is actually to get a return. If you have set a time or target, then leave when the target is achieved and you must be disciplined with it.
It doesn't mean that because you have a target, that after you have reached your target you should sell all your bitcoin and exit the market. This is because bitcoin value might keep on increasing overtime and the longer you hodli, the more profit you make. Bitcoin is worth hodli till old age and if you have reached your bitcoin target, it means that you will be in the next phase which is your maintenance stage, where you only hodli and relax.

If you sell all your bitcoin and bitcoin price keeps on increasing, you will regret your actions. This was the same thing the early investors also felt and sold early but now they're regretting it.

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January 02, 2025, 10:14:01 PM
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Knowing when btc price falling and increase does make it worth investing on,  as much some competition would try to make fault out of the the system it has been, I will say it perfect especially with DCA method of investing, keep investing and accumulate as much you can for better profit is the best in btc market
Early investor and the luckiest but there's never bad time to invest btc and that's most fascinating about and attract more investor and that way the transaction rate is high.
Is good to know more about the btc market like other method of investing to know what you are in the market for but it best to use DCA method as is the best for now
Price volatility gives you the opportunity to buy low and sell high. It's not about day trading, but the focus is on investing. When you maximize DCA all the time, the average price of the Bitcoin you buy will certainly be lower than other purchasing methods. There are times when you buy at a high price, then there are times when you buy at a correction price, this makes the average price lower.

When you invest not for your future assets, then maybe you need to set a time when to exit and save the returns you get. I say this because basically everyone's investment goals are different, even though the goal is actually to get a return. If you have set a time or target, then leave when the target is achieved and you must be disciplined with it.

You sound like a trader (with various trading talking/thinking points) who likes to call himself an investor.... especially since many times long term investors will not set such specific time and/or profit ideas in regards to whether or how they might exit.. .. .. even though surely at various points down the road they might reassess their investment to figure if they might change or adjust their strategy, yet they might not have had come into the investment with any kind of specific exit point in mind or any target, like a trader might consider to be a prerequisite.

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January 02, 2025, 11:06:03 PM
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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader, but people in their own way of understanding things they do say that a trader is an investor I think it is a misconception from my way of understanding what is threading and what is investment, who purchase a Bitcoin and the sell within a short time that person will be probably called an investor and is equal as someone who purchase a bitcoin and the hold for long time.

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January 02, 2025, 11:18:08 PM
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Knowing when btc price falling and increase does make it worth investing on,  as much some competition would try to make fault out of the the system it has been, I will say it perfect especially with DCA method of investing, keep investing and accumulate as much you can for better profit is the best in btc market
Early investor and the luckiest but there's never bad time to invest btc and that's most fascinating about and attract more investor and that way the transaction rate is high.
Is good to know more about the btc market like other method of investing to know what you are in the market for but it best to use DCA method as is the best for now
Price volatility gives you the opportunity to buy low and sell high. It's not about day trading, but the focus is on investing. When you maximize DCA all the time, the average price of the Bitcoin you buy will certainly be lower than other purchasing methods. There are times when you buy at a high price, then there are times when you buy at a correction price, this makes the average price lower.

When you invest not for your future assets, then maybe you need to set a time when to exit and save the returns you get. I say this because basically everyone's investment goals are different, even though the goal is actually to get a return. If you have set a time or target, then leave when the target is achieved and you must be disciplined with it.

You sound like a trader (with various trading talking/thinking points) who likes to call himself an investor.... especially since many times long term investors will not set such specific time and/or profit ideas in regards to whether or how they might exit.. .. .. even though surely at various points down the road they might reassess their investment to figure if they might change or adjust their strategy, yet they might not have had come into the investment with any kind of specific exit point in mind or any target, like a trader might consider to be a prerequisite.

Not really good to think about price volatility when talking about accumulating and using DCA method. Those people usually consider that is a trader not an investor, also if they pay to much attention on the market volatility or each movement happening on Bitcoin provably there are certain scenarios that can discourage them and decide to sell all Bitcoins they acquired.

So if they think they can really do straight up long term investment on Bitcoin better ignore any unnecessary noise brought up by market events and buy whatever price Bitcoin showing up and don't give much attention of price volatility or anything related to the price. Since for sure that if they have chance to accumulate when market experience a bearish condition especially if they are consistent with their accumulation using DCA method.

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January 03, 2025, 12:49:47 AM
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Knowing when btc price falling and increase does make it worth investing on,  as much some competition would try to make fault out of the the system it has been, I will say it perfect especially with DCA method of investing, keep investing and accumulate as much you can for better profit is the best in btc market
Early investor and the luckiest but there's never bad time to invest btc and that's most fascinating about and attract more investor and that way the transaction rate is high.
Is good to know more about the btc market like other method of investing to know what you are in the market for but it best to use DCA method as is the best for now
Price volatility gives you the opportunity to buy low and sell high. It's not about day trading, but the focus is on investing. When you maximize DCA all the time, the average price of the Bitcoin you buy will certainly be lower than other purchasing methods. There are times when you buy at a high price, then there are times when you buy at a correction price, this makes the average price lower.

When you invest not for your future assets, then maybe you need to set a time when to exit and save the returns you get. I say this because basically everyone's investment goals are different, even though the goal is actually to get a return. If you have set a time or target, then leave when the target is achieved and you must be disciplined with it.

You sound like a trader (with various trading talking/thinking points) who likes to call himself an investor.... especially since many times long term investors will not set such specific time and/or profit ideas in regards to whether or how they might exit.. .. .. even though surely at various points down the road they might reassess their investment to figure if they might change or adjust their strategy, yet they might not have had come into the investment with any kind of specific exit point in mind or any target, like a trader might consider to be a prerequisite.

Not really good to think about price volatility when talking about accumulating and using DCA method. Those people usually consider that is a trader not an investor, also if they pay to much attention on the market volatility or each movement happening on Bitcoin provably there are certain scenarios that can discourage them and decide to sell all Bitcoins they acquired.

So if they think they can really do straight up long term investment on Bitcoin better ignore any unnecessary noise brought up by market events and buy whatever price Bitcoin showing up and don't give much attention of price volatility or anything related to the price. Since for sure that if they have chance to accumulate when market experience a bearish condition especially if they are consistent with their accumulation using DCA method.
Price volatility to me does not exist in the book of a real investor. This is because it is only panic that can make a person to be conscious of price volatility which already signifies that such bitcoin wallet can be emptied any moment when you exhaust your maximum bearable market fluctuations.

This should be best described as Trading as pointed out by @JayJuanGee and not investment.

Trading involves keeping wake, studying the bitcoin cycle, monitoring and swift withdrawal whenever the market looks unfavorable.

Investment deals with DCA income and doesn't reoccur in the mind of the investor because it is more of a forsaken token, dumped in bitcoin wallet for further reference at a very long time to come. Bitcoin investment doesn't care about how high bitcoin may appear to be today. It's all hoped for the future unlike Trading which is more of a one time trial and error.

An investor only cares about the future and focus more on buying. He buys, buys and still buy whenever he has a descretionary income.

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January 03, 2025, 04:52:16 AM
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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader,
if that is your definition of investor then you can go and stack some dust in your wallet and hope for a better return. but i will assure you that you'll later cry. i don't think your definition of investor is what you think it is. as a matter of fact, any shitcoin you buy and hodl for God knows how long, is not an investment, if its not bitcoin investment and cant be held for long then its not an investment. in other word shitcoin is not considered an investment, no matter the quantity you hodl.

but people in their own way of understanding things they do say that a trader is an investor I think it is a misconception from my way of understanding what is threading and what is investment, who purchase a Bitcoin and the sell within a short time that person will be probably called an investor and is equal as someone who purchase a bitcoin and the hold for long time.
even as it has been long since you are registered here way longer than most guys here, i see that you cant still spot the different between a trader and an investor. if you are still confused about a trader and investor, let me draw to your attention that a  trader is person that buys shitcoin or bitcoin as well and sell within a short period of time for making profit{short term} . while an investor is a person who buys bitcoin and hold for a long period of time.{long term} note: this 2 set of people are looking towards making profit, but the different between the both  of them is that an investor focuses on duration an regular investing without considering the market ups and down and choosing the right coin to invest{bitcoin} is what makes him different from trader.

 
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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader, but people in their own way of understanding things they do say that a trader is an investor I think it is a misconception from my way of understanding what is threading and what is investment, who purchase a Bitcoin and the sell within a short time that person will be probably called an investor and is equal as someone who purchase a bitcoin and the hold for long time.
You may loss all your money if you choose to hodl shitcoins for long the only coin that has a great potentials to be held for long is bitcoin and from your explanation regarding investor and trader I think you really don't know the difference between this two buying and selling in a short while is trading while buying Bitcoin and HODL for long is investment and this set of people are the ones called investors and bitcoin investment should be for a long time purpose probably 4-10 and more.
Please it will be advisable not to put your income into shitcoins which is unreliable to invest on because you will definitely regret doing so but if choose to you can invest only with 10% of your income, and you should also try and understand the difference between bitcoin and shitcoin and also using the word cryptocurrency is highly prohibited in this thread for you could either say bitcoin or shitcoins instead of the word cryptocurrency.
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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader,
if that is your definition of investor then you can go and stack some dust in your wallet and hope for a better return. but i will assure you that you'll later cry. i don't think your definition of investor is what you think it is. as a matter of fact, any shitcoin you buy and hodl for God knows how long, is not an investment, if its not bitcoin investment and cant be held for long then its not an investment. in other word shitcoin is not considered an investment, no matter the quantity you hodl.

but people in their own way of understanding things they do say that a trader is an investor I think it is a misconception from my way of understanding what is threading and what is investment, who purchase a Bitcoin and the sell within a short time that person will be probably called an investor and is equal as someone who purchase a bitcoin and the hold for long time.
even as it has been long since you are registered here way longer than most guys here, i see that you cant still spot the different between a trader and an investor. if you are still confused about a trader and investor, let me draw to your attention that a  trader is person that buys shitcoin or bitcoin as well and sell within a short period of time for making profit{short term} . while an investor is a person who buys bitcoin and hold for a long period of time.{long term} note: this 2 set of people are looking towards making profit, but the different between the both  of them is that an investor focuses on duration an regular investing without considering the market ups and down and choosing the right coin to invest{bitcoin} is what makes him different from trader.
Do you know that you are the one that is confused, that you don't that trader is one that sell assets neither financial or not in short time in other to make a profit, why investor is someone who invest for long-term and also have a target or duration when it investment will yield profit, so traders only focus on the immediate profit they will realise at a moment of trade, so when next you're typing try to make investigation, don't use abuse words to type, research is the key of anything, you can research of the difference between trader and investor elsewhere or in the forum here, we have similar threads that discuss about it before.

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January 03, 2025, 07:25:23 AM
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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader, but people in their own way of understanding things they do say that a trader is an investor I think it is a misconception from my way of understanding what is threading and what is investment, who purchase a Bitcoin and the sell within a short time that person will be probably called an investor and is equal as someone who purchase a bitcoin and the hold for long time.

We all have a different concept of trader / investor and what is short and long-term, but the general concepts are there with everybody, that is who does what and how.
Bitcoin is the best choice for investors.
I think somebody trades Bitcoin, but it's not as good as accumulating it for a long time.
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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader, but people in their own way of understanding things they do say that a trader is an investor I think it is a misconception from my way of understanding what is threading and what is investment, who purchase a Bitcoin and the sell within a short time that person will be probably called an investor and is equal as someone who purchase a bitcoin and the hold for long time.
Only bitcoin is a long-term investment and not altcoins, that's why you need to be specific with the word bitcoin and not cryptocurrency because bitcoin is different from shitcoins. Bitcoin has the potential to increase in value exponentially and is a store of value. Whereas, investing in shitcoin is gambling because the dev created them for their own selfish interests which means it can be manipulated anytime because it's centralized making it very risky and inferior.

A brand new investor should only invest in bitcoin because that's the only cryptocurrency with solid foundation and is for the future and that's why you need to buy, invest and build your bitcoin stash to a good size overtime when you are buying constantly every week with full dedication and commitment to grow your bitcoin investment overtime. Trading and shitcoin are gambling.

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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader,
if that is your definition of investor then you can go and stack some dust in your wallet and hope for a better return. but i will assure you that you'll later cry. i don't think your definition of investor is what you think it is. as a matter of fact, any shitcoin you buy and hodl for God knows how long, is not an investment, if its not bitcoin investment and cant be held for long then its not an investment. in other word shitcoin is not considered an investment, no matter the quantity you hodl.

but people in their own way of understanding things they do say that a trader is an investor I think it is a misconception from my way of understanding what is threading and what is investment, who purchase a Bitcoin and the sell within a short time that person will be probably called an investor and is equal as someone who purchase a bitcoin and the hold for long time.
even as it has been long since you are registered here way longer than most guys here, i see that you cant still spot the different between a trader and an investor. if you are still confused about a trader and investor, let me draw to your attention that a  trader is person that buys shitcoin or bitcoin as well and sell within a short period of time for making profit{short term} . while an investor is a person who buys bitcoin and hold for a long period of time.{long term} note: this 2 set of people are looking towards making profit, but the different between the both  of them is that an investor focuses on duration an regular investing without considering the market ups and down and choosing the right coin to invest{bitcoin} is what makes him different from trader.
Do you know that you are the one that is confused, that you don't that trader is one that sell assets neither financial or not in short time in other to make a profit, why investor is someone who invest for long-term and also have a target or duration when it investment will yield profit, so traders only focus on the immediate profit they will realise at a moment of trade, so when next you're typing try to make investigation, don't use abuse words to type, research is the key of anything, you can research of the difference between trader and investor elsewhere or in the forum here, we have similar threads that discuss about it before.


Your definition is quite okay but it is very weird that, the dude don't understand or know the difference between an investor and a trader. In as much as there is difference  between... there is also similarities between them but that is not necessary. However, research is not the key of anything because it is not just doing research rather it is about doing a concrete research because some people or some website have different idea or knowledge of everything and so if you don't have a little knowledge of what you want to research you easily be convinced with what you will research that may not even be correct. Have you ever ask yourself why some students fail assignment even after doing research  well the reason is because they don't have knowledge on what they are ask to research and they didn't do a concrete research on it because they don't have the knowledge.











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January 03, 2025, 08:01:57 AM
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Only bitcoin is a long-term investment and not altcoins, that's why you need to be specific with the word bitcoin and not cryptocurrency because bitcoin is different from shitcoins. Bitcoin has the potential to increase in value exponentially and is a store of value. Whereas, investing in shitcoin is gambling because the dev created them for their own selfish interests which means it can be manipulated anytime because it's centralized making it very risky and inferior.

A brand new investor should only invest in bitcoin because that's the only cryptocurrency with solid foundation and is for the future and that's why you need to buy, invest and build your bitcoin stash to a good size overtime when you are buying constantly every week with full dedication and commitment to grow your bitcoin investment overtime. Trading and shitcoin are gambling.

Bitcoin should be the main part of any portfolio.
Alts, big and reputable ones, that are around for an eternity, basically, - are there to be analyzed and seen as the ones to work around once the BTC DOM. factor falls off.
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Only bitcoin is a long-term investment and not altcoins, that's why you need to be specific with the word bitcoin and not cryptocurrency because bitcoin is different from shitcoins. Bitcoin has the potential to increase in value exponentially and is a store of value. Whereas, investing in shitcoin is gambling because the dev created them for their own selfish interests which means it can be manipulated anytime because it's centralized making it very risky and inferior.

A brand new investor should only invest in bitcoin because that's the only cryptocurrency with solid foundation and is for the future and that's why you need to buy, invest and build your bitcoin stash to a good size overtime when you are buying constantly every week with full dedication and commitment to grow your bitcoin investment overtime. Trading and shitcoin are gambling.

Bitcoin should be the main part of any portfolio.
Alts, big and reputable ones, that are around for an eternity, basically, - are there to be analyzed and seen as the ones to work around once the BTC DOM. factor falls off.


Some may not believe on this and think its better to spread their investment since they believe that don't put all your egg on one basket only. But we can really say its totally different on Bitcoin since we can maximize more our gains if we focus our investment with this coin.

Shitcoins is so risky that's why I really don't believe that this is good to acquire, since everything is fast with those shitcoins and don't have much time monitoring those risky tokens out there. Bitcoin is best investment for busy person since they can just leave their investment and just came back when they are ready to acquire then add up more volumes. Its really a huge gamble for people if they invest in shitcoin.

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January 03, 2025, 08:35:03 AM
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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader, but people in their own way of understanding things they do say that a trader is an investor I think it is a misconception from my way of understanding what is threading and what is investment, who purchase a Bitcoin and the sell within a short time that person will be probably called an investor and is equal as someone who purchase a bitcoin and the hold for long time.
Your explanation about Bitcoin investment seems to be inaccurate because there's no short term holding or  short term investment in bitcoin. Investing in Bitcoin require one to accumulate and hold for longer period of time for it to yield good profit over time.  Then in regards to purchasing different cryptocurrencies can also be tagged as gambling because shitcoins and Altcoins lacks growth fundamentals, its important to focus and channel your funds on bitcoin which has shown resilience and  profitability over the years, can be more vital move compared to investing in cryptocurrencies that might lack solid growth fundamentals.
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January 03, 2025, 10:02:54 AM
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......Have you ever ask yourself why some students fail assignment even after doing research  well the reason is because they don't have knowledge on what they are ask to research and they didn't do a concrete research on it because they don't have the knowledge.

You know that there can be a variety of reasons that some students might not receive a good mark for their research and/or performance, and it could be the way that they present the materials or it could be whether they had made some kind of a substantive contribution in regards to the topic.

Sometimes they might fuck up in regards to presentation and substance, and it also might appear that they have not put very much time into their project(s), and other times, it might be clear that they put a lot of time into their project, but they still were not able to get a good grade based on their unclear presentation.. and/or perhaps sometimes internally contradicting explanation that might have ended up coming out of their presentation of the materials/substance.

For sure both trading and investing come up quite a bit as a topic, and also there are quite of few discussions of bitcoin versus shitcoin, and frequently there can be confusion both in the sense of whether they are even relevant to discuss within a bitcoin thread or the extent to which they might be somewhat relevant if there had been sufficient enough clarification regarding how the author might consider shitcoins to be the same or different from bitcoin, and surely if it is a bitcoin, there would be some desire that to know that they actually have some kind of an understanding about how bitcoin differs from shitcoins.

I would not proclaim that trading and/or shitcoining would need to 100% be absent from investing in bitcoin, yet frequently I advocate that folks try to keep their shitcoining and trading to less than 10% the size of their bitcoin investment, whether we are referring to time, energies and/or value, so sure there could be ways to still call yourself an investor but to include some trading activities within your activities, and there are even some traders (perhaps rare) who approach their trading in a way that they are trading/investing at the same time, yet surely, an overwhelming majority of traders are neither successful in their fucking around with trading and/or they do not come up with systems that are sustainably able to both support themselves and to build their investment stash (whether BTC or otherwise) at the same time.  So, it can come off as quite confusing when some traders are trying to pump their trading nonsense and to suggest that trading is a suitable way to approach bitcoin, whether they consider their target audience to be a bitcoin newbie or some more experienced bitcoiner.

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January 03, 2025, 10:39:54 AM
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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader,
if that is your definition of investor then you can go and stack some dust in your wallet and hope for a better return. but i will assure you that you'll later cry. i don't think your definition of investor is what you think it is. as a matter of fact, any shitcoin you buy and hodl for God knows how long, is not an investment, if its not bitcoin investment and cant be held for long then its not an investment. in other word shitcoin is not considered an investment, no matter the quantity you hodl.

but people in their own way of understanding things they do say that a trader is an investor I think it is a misconception from my way of understanding what is threading and what is investment, who purchase a Bitcoin and the sell within a short time that person will be probably called an investor and is equal as someone who purchase a bitcoin and the hold for long time.
even as it has been long since you are registered here way longer than most guys here, i see that you cant still spot the different between a trader and an investor. if you are still confused about a trader and investor, let me draw to your attention that a  trader is person that buys shitcoin or bitcoin as well and sell within a short period of time for making profit{short term} . while an investor is a person who buys bitcoin and hold for a long period of time.{long term} note: this 2 set of people are looking towards making profit, but the different between the both  of them is that an investor focuses on duration an regular investing without considering the market ups and down and choosing the right coin to invest{bitcoin} is what makes him different from trader.
Do you know that you are the one that is confused, that you don't that trader is one that sell assets neither financial or not in short time in other to make a profit, why investor is someone who invest for long-term and also have a target or duration when it investment will yield profit, so traders only focus on the immediate profit they will realise at a moment of trade, so when next you're typing try to make investigation, don't use abuse words to type, research is the key of anything, you can research of the difference between trader and investor elsewhere or in the forum here, we have similar threads that discuss about it before.
You still failed to understand where your mistake is coming from you will be losing money if choose to hodl shitcoins for long because when you used the word cryptocurrency it means you are referring to shitcoins and also you can't hodl bitcoin for a short while and still called your self an investor so you should take correction from Pi-network314159 and stop arguing about what you don't really know at some point here I see you are the one trying to more confusion on your self where you started getting your self confused is when you said this word but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor.
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Last edit: January 03, 2025, 12:05:53 PM by hero_the_bossman
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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader, but people in their own way of understanding things they do say that a trader is an investor I think it is a misconception from my way of understanding what is threading and what is investment, who purchase a Bitcoin and the sell within a short time that person will be probably called an investor and is equal as someone who purchase a bitcoin and the hold for long time.
Your explanation about Bitcoin investment seems to be inaccurate because there's no short term holding or  short term investment in bitcoin. Investing in Bitcoin require one to accumulate and hold for longer period of time for it to yield good profit over time.  Then in regards to purchasing different cryptocurrencies can also be tagged as gambling because shitcoins and Altcoins lacks growth fundamentals, its important to focus and channel your funds on bitcoin which has shown resilience and  profitability over the years, can be more vital move compared to investing in cryptocurrencies that might lack solid growth fundamentals.

Because Onyeeze said about " different kinds of cryptocurrency", quote.
So that's why there are short and long term in the post regarding investing / trading with them.
So, all matches up in my book.
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January 03, 2025, 11:06:36 AM
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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader,

Is this your understanding about trading and investor?, if so that means you also don't understand the clarification you were trying to make because you did not explain it the way it should be and I would have agreed to it if I did not understand what those things means but since I can differentiate the both, your definition about the trader and investor needs to be adjusted or amended because an investor is not a short term holder or even someone who acquired a lot of other cryptocurrency aside from Bitcoin because the moment you came up with a short term investment you already put yourself on the trading side, investor has only a unique word and that's long term.

 
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January 03, 2025, 12:08:36 PM
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There is something people does not understand for investment and the trading someone who is a trader of cryptocurrency that person is not an investor but someone who purchase different kinds of cryptocurrency and hold for long time or a short time that person can be classified as an investor not someone who is a trader,

Is this your understanding about trading and investor?, if so that means you also don't understand the clarification you were trying to make because you did not explain it the way it should be and I would have agreed to it if I did not understand what those things means but since I can differentiate the both, your definition about the trader and investor needs to be adjusted or amended because an investor is not a short term holder or even someone who acquired a lot of other cryptocurrency aside from Bitcoin because the moment you came up with a short term investment you already put yourself on the trading side, investor has only a unique word and that's long term.

Depends on the coin we are talking about.
Not all coins have cycles and need as much time as others to see the profits made, so would it be considered trading or investing still?
With some alts, there is only a year or two when you need to rip off your PNL, with newer ones - it's more like a roller coaster of possibilities.
If we are talking about BTC - then of course, long-term, for me, would be considered going from cycle to cycle.
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