Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[Yablee0]

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

buying a coin in dip is quit safer than buying it when it is already high at price, but most of the buyer only buy coins when it is already on top because they can't control thier emotions, and that is the big problem not only today but also from the past people is greedy and they cannot control thier emotions and that make them loss.

Since we are talking about bitcoin investment, I want you to understand that there's no right time to invest in bitcoin. If you are waiting to buy bitcoin in a dip, you are wasting your time, and you may possibly miss out on accumulating a reasonable amount of bitcoin since no man or woman on planet earth can actually predict when a dip will happen. Instead of waiting for a dip, you can start accumulating bitcoin with the DCA strategy when you money is readily available because the DCA strategy will allow you to even accumulate bitcoin in the bullish trend and the bearish trend, and it will also control your emotions.

I still doubt that those who really want to invest in Bitcoin are actually waiting for the price of Bitcoin to drop. Maybe this trend exists among people who don't know that small fractions of Bitcoin can be purchased. A Bitcoin investor never worries about the price of Bitcoin falling, He always has a thought about how he can increase his income, which he will use to accumulate more Bitcoins, that is buy Bitcoins. He even has a tendency to wonder how he will be able to grow his Bitcoin investment. For example people who want to trade may often hear that it is better to buy Bitcoin at a low price and they think that is reasonable. In fact if you ask a real investor, they will never say, Buy Bitcoin tomorrow or Buy Bitcoin the next day. Even real investors would never mention that it is better to wait for the price of Bitcoin to drop.

You are very correct my brother, real investor are never bothered about the drop in price of Bitcoin all they are concentrating on is how to stack more bitcoin to there portfolio regardless of anything.

Because If you are really waiting to buy bitcoin in dip is simply crazy because it is almost a waste of time knowing fully well that the price of Bitcoin is almost unpredictable. However, keep buying bitcoin and hold for long time duration perhaps if you want to achieve success.

[MainIbem]

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

buying a coin in dip is quit safer than buying it when it is already high at price, but most of the buyer only buy coins when it is already on top because they can't control thier emotions, and that is the big problem not only today but also from the past people is greedy and they cannot control thier emotions and that make them loss.

Since we are talking about bitcoin investment, I want you to understand that there's no right time to invest in bitcoin. If you are waiting to buy bitcoin in a dip, you are wasting your time, and you may possibly miss out on accumulating a reasonable amount of bitcoin since no man or woman on planet earth can actually predict when a dip will happen. Instead of waiting for a dip, you can start accumulating bitcoin with the DCA strategy when you money is readily available because the DCA strategy will allow you to even accumulate bitcoin in the bullish trend and the bearish trend, and it will also control your emotions.

I still doubt that those who really want to invest in Bitcoin are actually waiting for the price of Bitcoin to drop. Maybe this trend exists among people who don't know that small fractions of Bitcoin can be purchased. A Bitcoin investor never worries about the price of Bitcoin falling, He always has a thought about how he can increase his income, which he will use to accumulate more Bitcoins, that is buy Bitcoins. He even has a tendency to wonder how he will be able to grow his Bitcoin investment. For example people who want to trade may often hear that it is better to buy Bitcoin at a low price and they think that is reasonable. In fact if you ask a real investor, they will never say, Buy Bitcoin tomorrow or Buy Bitcoin the next day. Even real investors would never mention that it is better to wait for the price of Bitcoin to drop.

There are some people who think differently, there are Bitcoin investors who buy Bitcoin only when there's a dip no matter how small or little the dip is they believe is a better way to accumulate and hold Bitcoin for long term, we have a lot of Bitcoin strategy and to be honest there are people who won't be comfortable using the DCA strategy and is not in our power to decide for them the strategy they should use, however what we can do is discuss the different advantage and disadvantage of Bitcoin strategies and an investor who wants to grow will find a more better option, when I started Bitcoin investment i was accumulating only during the dip but when I came into this forum I discovered other strategy and that was how I started using DCA strategy because it was a better strategy, using the DCA strategy will still make you benefit from any dip especially an investor that has backup funds, waiting for a dip to come before you buy Bitcoin will delay your accumulation journey, if you are always waiting for a dip before you can start accumulating then years will pass and you have not Accumulated anything meaningful.

That's their own perspective concerning owning Bitcoin anyways but it doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do. Well, anyone can choose to follow that process if they wish but I won't advise people on that since there's chances of them missing out on owning Bitcoin at a more cheaper rate while waiting to buy it more cheaper, buying during the dip is an opportunity to buy bitcoin cheaper, that's quite right but an investor don't need to wait for the market to dip before they start investing on Bitcoin, they can buy at anytime, do the DCA and still seize the opportunity of buying cheaper when a dip occurs, this particular point of discussion have been treated repeatedly and I keep wondering why people keep bringing it up instead of learning from previous discussions about it, one of the best way of accumulation is doing the DCA cause it gives investor the opportunity of buying with any amount suitable for them to keep investing consistently and it's much more preferable than waiting for the price to dip before buying Bitcoin.

[Stablexcoin]

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

buying a coin in dip is quit safer than buying it when it is already high at price, but most of the buyer only buy coins when it is already on top because they can't control thier emotions, and that is the big problem not only today but also from the past people is greedy and they cannot control thier emotions and that make them loss.

Since we are talking about bitcoin investment, I want you to understand that there's no right time to invest in bitcoin. If you are waiting to buy bitcoin in a dip, you are wasting your time, and you may possibly miss out on accumulating a reasonable amount of bitcoin since no man or woman on planet earth can actually predict when a dip will happen. Instead of waiting for a dip, you can start accumulating bitcoin with the DCA strategy when you money is readily available because the DCA strategy will allow you to even accumulate bitcoin in the bullish trend and the bearish trend, and it will also control your emotions.

I still doubt that those who really want to invest in Bitcoin are actually waiting for the price of Bitcoin to drop. Maybe this trend exists among people who don't know that small fractions of Bitcoin can be purchased. A Bitcoin investor never worries about the price of Bitcoin falling, He always has a thought about how he can increase his income, which he will use to accumulate more Bitcoins, that is buy Bitcoins. He even has a tendency to wonder how he will be able to grow his Bitcoin investment. For example people who want to trade may often hear that it is better to buy Bitcoin at a low price and they think that is reasonable. In fact if you ask a real investor, they will never say, Buy Bitcoin tomorrow or Buy Bitcoin the next day. Even real investors would never mention that it is better to wait for the price of Bitcoin to drop.

There are some people who think differently, there are Bitcoin investors who buy Bitcoin only when there's a dip no matter how small or little the dip is they believe is a better way to accumulate and hold Bitcoin for long term, we have a lot of Bitcoin strategy and to be honest there are people who won't be comfortable using the DCA strategy and is not in our power to decide for them the strategy they should use, however what we can do is discuss the different advantage and disadvantage of Bitcoin strategies and an investor who wants to grow will find a more better option, when I started Bitcoin investment i was accumulating only during the dip but when I came into this forum I discovered other strategy and that was how I started using DCA strategy because it was a better strategy, using the DCA strategy will still make you benefit from any dip especially an investor that has backup funds, waiting for a dip to come before you buy Bitcoin will delay your accumulation journey, if you are always waiting for a dip before you can start accumulating then years will pass and you have not Accumulated anything meaningful.

That's their own perspective concerning owning Bitcoin anyways but it doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do. Well, anyone can choose to follow that process if they wish but I won't advise people on that since there's chances of them missing out on owning Bitcoin at a more cheaper rate while waiting to buy it more cheaper, buying during the dip is an opportunity to buy bitcoin cheaper, that's quite right but an investor don't need to wait for the market to dip before they start investing on Bitcoin, they can buy at anytime, do the DCA and still seize the opportunity of buying cheaper when a dip occurs, this particular point of discussion have been treated repeatedly and I keep wondering why people keep bringing it up instead of learning from previous discussions about it, one of the best way of accumulation is doing the DCA cause it gives investor the opportunity of buying with any amount suitable for them to keep investing consistently and it's much more preferable than waiting for the price to dip before buying Bitcoin.

I agree with you here. Buying on dips does not hinder any strategy that an investor uses to accumulate. No investor can ever get the right time to buy at the lowest that is why it is likely an error when an investor chooses to time the in the motive of buying the dip. Clinging to a particular strategy while preparing for any opportunity that may come with the feeling it is a dip. The investor can buy more as long as he has extra funds and it doesn't affects his other investment plans.

I remember sharing my personal experience sometime ago here on this matter. TBH i bough at 64k and saw the price went down to 60k the next day by then it was all about buying the dip. I though that 64k was a dip not knowing it will even go down more. You see, we can never get the accurate time for a dip, we can buy thinking its a dip while we watch the price of Bitcoin sink more.

[Stormisover]

Bitcoin is an independent coin and it's originality is what has brought about the unique features we are seeing today and it took it time, but some time I wonder how people want to come in and rush out, anyone who is already captivevated with the mindset of selling too soon will find it difficult to stay for long but anyone who feels the need to allow whatever they have to grow before coming in May not sell, there is different between planting and harvesting, there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

[Solodoski]

there is different between planting and harvesting, there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

i like this analogy of planting and harvesting in relating it to bitcoin investment because it is just what some people are missing out on. just the same way there is time for planting and there is also time for harvesting, there is also time for buying bitcoin and just like the time for planting when you set things in place that encourages good planting, the time one is buying bitcoin should be all about setting things in place that helps one buy more bitcoin as well.

if in the place of focusing on how well to buy bitcoin at the time that you are just buying and have not had enough bitcoin you now start getting distracted with price and start selling or start looking for the best time to exit when you have not bought a good amount of sats, who loses? of cause it is you. there is time for everything, a time to buy and build your bitcoin account and a time that if you talk about selling it for reasons best known to you, it would not be out of place. selling or thinking of selling when you should be buying is like harvesting crops that are not yet matured enough to be harvested, it will only show how impatience and indiscipline you are but would never make you gain from your investment.

[Futurexxx]

there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

It is very logical for all to see that anything that is being harvested prematurely, will not be as good as something that was matured enough before it was harvested, and that also implies to Bitcoin investment, but I want you to take note that without you being perfect with your financial planning, by having a  source of income and an emergency funds to carry you through during the rainy days, you might be forced to sell or temper with your investment even when it's not your intention to sell, so in other not to temper with your Bitcoin investment, you must have a source of income and an emergency funds or even possibly a backup fund to sort out any emergencies or financial troubles that may arise in the future, if all this are in place, I believe that their is nothing stopping you from holding firm, without tempering with your investment till it gets mature.

Another thing we should joke with is our stash of Bitcoin, because that's is what going to determine how profitable we might be, you can't invest only $50 and be expecting to be filthy rich in the future, you need to add more to your stash, because the same effort used in making $10k is also the same effort used in making $1M, the only difference is the capital, so it's best we add to our stash at every given opportunity.

[JayJuanGee]

You remove all the thinking and start saving bitcoins for the long term, you can get the most profit and success.  But whenever you get involved in trading and short-term bitcoins, your long-term holdings can fail.  
So if you are limited by holding Bitcoin long-term you will be successful, but whenever you get involved in multiple ways you will immediately run into problems and your money will remain unaccounted for.  So you will definitely get maximum success if you hold bitcoins with proper strategy and proper long term long term.

To see the results that are guaranteed, one should hodl.

All the other options are available too, but they have more risk to them, that would be it .

You are guaranteed not to lose more than 100% of what you invested, as long as you did not use leverage.

[edited out]

This is a fact that can't be look down at. Especially when you are new to it, like me.
Though you might end up finding it hard depending on the mindset you have going into it cause am actually finding it hard.
Am so happy I came across this post cause I never had the mindset of long term, even when their are fluntuation in price.

There is no reason to quote my whole post in order to make some kind of a comment about it.  If you are new to bitcoin, then hopefully you are figuring out a system that works for you in which you can continue to invest into bitcoin from your discretionary income, and also manage your cashflow and your back up funds.

So, yeah, if you want to invest into bitcoin you should be considering bitcoin like a 4-10 years or longer investment, otherwise you may well be trading rather than investing.  Sure, once you get into bitcoin, you can choose to cash out at any time that you like, yet at the same time, it may well be to your advantage to continue to study bitcoin so that you might be able to recognize why it is better to consider bitcoin as a long term investment that you may well rather continue to hold value in rather than withdrawing from it early, which also may well end up putting you in a worse position to have had ended up selling too many bitcoin too soon and/or failing/refusing to accumulate enough and/or failing/refusing to advantage by bitcoin's likely future compounding effects.

Of course, there are no guarantees that bitcoin will be profitable, so you should be attempting to size your bitcoin position in accordance with your comfort level to keep value in it, and surely there are many guys who gain a lot more confidence with bitcoin over the passage of time, yet they still might need to go through a whole cycle before they really start to feel higher levels of confidence that come from continuing to watch and to learn about bitcoin rather than perhaps their only having superficial understandings of bitcoin when they first get started investing into it.

Not everyone is going to learn about bitcoin merely from investing into it, yet it helps to have taken some stake into it, and it also helps to figure out how to balance your own circumstances in your own learning about how to invest and/or how aggressive you might be able to be based on your own individual financial and psychological factors.

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

buying a coin in dip is quit safer than buying it when it is already high at price, but most of the buyer only buy coins when it is already on top because they can't control thier emotions, and that is the big problem not only today but also from the past people is greedy and they cannot control thier emotions and that make them loss.

Since we are talking about bitcoin investment, I want you to understand that there's no right time to invest in bitcoin. If you are waiting to buy bitcoin in a dip, you are wasting your time, and you may possibly miss out on accumulating a reasonable amount of bitcoin since no man or woman on planet earth can actually predict when a dip will happen. Instead of waiting for a dip, you can start accumulating bitcoin with the DCA strategy when you money is readily available because the DCA strategy will allow you to even accumulate bitcoin in the bullish trend and the bearish trend, and it will also control your emotions.

I agree with you here. Predicting the dip is almost or completely impossible. As far as investment is concerned, every time is a good time to invest in Bitcoin. Every opportunity that an investor sees, as long as he has the money to buy without neglecting the important things in life, he should see that opportunity and buy Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not measured by when you bought it and how much bought at that time. But it is checked by the amount you have been able to accumualte for a period of time in your portfolio.

Your outline of purpose is correct Dailyscript, since ongoing accumulation of BTC can show conviction and also build conviction while it is also building the size of a person's bitcoin holdings, and surely a guy might be sometimes buying bitcoin at higher than usual prices, yet he still sees value in staying committed to ongoingly building his bitcoin stash rather than dinkering around trying to figure out if various purchases are high price, low price or some other thing, and truly if the guy is investing into bitcoin by buying 4-10 years or longer, he is likely to be putting himself in a much better financial and psychological position, even though it is not guaranteed and even though there might have had been times that he could have had bought bitcoin for lower prices...

Here is an example of two similarly situated guys:
In the end, a guy (guy 1) is likely going to be better off if he had spent $100k over 9 years and accumulated close to 30 BTC rather than if a similarly situated guy (guy 2) (with a similar budget) had dickered around and spent only $20k over the same period of time waiting to buy the dip and had gotten less than 20 BTC over the same period of time.  The mere fact that the second guy saved money and got lower cost per BTC did not end up putting the second guy in good of a position in regards to his bitcoin stash as the first guy who stuck with his conviction to buy bitcoin consistently, persistently, ongoingly and perhaps even aggressively.  The first guy spent around 5x more on bitcoin, and his merely getting 1/3 more bitcoin ended up having a lot of payouts for the first guy as compared with the second guy.

Out of these two examples, which guy would you rather be?  
The first guy who invested consistently and persistently with 1/3 more BTC but his BTC cost around $3,300 per BTC
or would you rather be the second guy who had a lower cost per BTC (of around $1k per BTC), but who had ONLY accumulated 20 BTC rather than 30 BTC..
Surely the second guy saved $80k that he did not invest in bitcoin as compared with the first guy who ended up investing $100k into bitcoin over 9 years.

By the way, I think that these two kinds of examples are somewhat realistic, since there are guys who come to bitcoin from differing perspectives and differing levels of aggressiveness (or whimpiness), and even my examples are not super extreme from one another because even in bitcoin the whimpy investor still might end up doing o.k. as long as he is mostly accumulating bitcoin through buying and not trading, but the more whimpy guy might be just being more cautious about his investment into bitcoin...and perhaps also with my examples I was being overly generous towards the whimpy investor, since in bitcoin, over a 9-year period, there may well end up being way greater disparities between the two similarly situated financial guys with the more aggressive guy merely ending up with 1/3 more bitcoin, and many times the disparities between two similarly situated guys are more like 5 to 1 or 10 to 1 or some other greater level of extreme, yet I was still trying to show an example of two guys who are more on the "believing in bitcoin" side of things, but more whimpy one of them had been more concerned about buying the dip and timing his entrance into bitcoin at various price points, and the other more aggressive guy is just ongoingly focused on buying bitcoin with whatever spare money he has at any point in time on a weekly basis..  They both have similar amounts of money in the beginning, but the aggressive guy puts his priorities on buying bitcoin as compared to the more whimpy guy concerning himself with price and ending up not investing as much into bitcoin.

[Wakate]

there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

It is very logical for all to see that anything that is being harvested prematurely, will not be as good as something that was matured enough before it was harvested, and that also implies to Bitcoin investment, but I want you to take note that without you being perfect with your financial planning, by having a  source of income and an emergency funds to carry you through during the rainy days, you might be forced to sell or temper with your investment even when it's not your intention to sell, so in other not to temper with your Bitcoin investment, you must have a source of income and an emergency funds or even possibly a backup fund to sort out any emergencies or financial troubles that may arise in the future, if all this are in place, I believe that their is nothing stopping you from holding firm, without tempering with your investment till it gets mature.

Another thing we should joke with is our stash of Bitcoin, because that's is what going to determine how profitable we might be, you can't invest only $50 and be expecting to be filthy rich in the future, you need to add more to your stash, because the same effort used in making $10k is also the same effort used in making $1M, the only difference is the capital, so it's best we add to our stash at every given opportunity.

If you take a look at the current price of Bitcoin, the price has started going up and soon, we may see Bitcoin going back to the previous high to create a new high. The market always being an opportunity to us to make decisions but many do not know how to interpret that. When the price of Bitcoin keeps going down, that's an opportunity for us to buy and hold before the price retrace and starting going up.

This is the same pattern whales use to buy our stash of Bitcoin when we keep panicking about what could be the next direction of the market. Fear losing had made many people to end up in big loss because they thought selling would be a good idea not to lose their money. Even the Bible emphasized on this that "Those who are ready to give their lives would have it but those who are not ready would lose it..."

There is more to just buying and holding! Everyone investing needs to know the secret behind holding for a long term purpose. The holders are the ones that are going to rejoice later because they are able to stay patient and persevere through the storms of the market without selling their holdings.

[JayJuanGee]

there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

It is very logical for all to see that anything that is being harvested prematurely, will not be as good as something that was matured enough before it was harvested, and that also implies to Bitcoin investment, but I want you to take note that without you being perfect with your financial planning, by having a  source of income and an emergency funds to carry you through during the rainy days, you might be forced to sell or temper with your investment even when it's not your intention to sell, so in other not to temper with your Bitcoin investment, you must have a source of income and an emergency funds or even possibly a backup fund to sort out any emergencies or financial troubles that may arise in the future, if all this are in place, I believe that their is nothing stopping you from holding firm, without tempering with your investment till it gets mature.

Another thing we should joke with is our stash of Bitcoin, because that's is what going to determine how profitable we might be, you can't invest only $50 and be expecting to be filthy rich in the future, you need to add more to your stash, because the same effort used in making $10k is also the same effort used in making $1M, the only difference is the capital, so it's best we add to our stash at every given opportunity.

If you take a look at the current price of Bitcoin, the price has started going up and soon, we may see Bitcoin going back to the previous high to create a new high. The market always being an opportunity to us to make decisions but many do not know how to interpret that. When the price of Bitcoin keeps going down, that's an opportunity for us to buy and hold before the price retrace and starting going up.

This is the same pattern whales use to buy our stash of Bitcoin when we keep panicking about what could be the next direction of the market. Fear losing had made many people to end up in big loss because they thought selling would be a good idea not to lose their money. Even the Bible emphasized on this that "Those who are ready to give their lives would have it but those who are not ready would lose it..."

There is more to just buying and holding! Everyone investing needs to know the secret behind holding for a long term purpose. The holders are the ones that are going to rejoice later because they are able to stay patient and persevere through the storms of the market without selling their holdings.

The guy who has been continuing to buy BTC over the past 4 months (his $100 per week or whatever) is likely way better off than the guy fucking around trying to figure out if there is going to be a dip or not.  Sure such ongoingly accumulating guy might have invested $1,800 and got around 0.027 BTC in the past 4 months, and sure is he in profits or not?  Maybe it does not matter so much if he is in profits or not if he is thinking about 4-10 years or more down the road, and those 2.7 million satoshis might seem to be quite a great bargain that he had acquired them for merely $1,800 in the past 4 months while others were screwing around either trying to trade (gamble) or not keeping their eyes on the prize of accumulating BTC..

And surely the guy who had been accumulating $100 per week of bitcoin over the past 6 months is doing even better with $2,700 invested and 4.05 million satoshis in his stash from his ability to stay focused on ongoing and persistent BTC accumulation.

[sotelorene]

Bitcoin is an independent coin and it's originality is what has brought about the unique features we are seeing today and it took it time, but some time I wonder how people want to come in and rush out, anyone who is already captivevated with the mindset of selling too soon will find it difficult to stay for long but anyone who feels the need to allow whatever they have to grow before coming in May not sell, there is different between planting and harvesting, there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

You are right to some point but what brings about the unique feature we are seeing today in Bitcoin is not because of the originality rather it is value and potential of Bitcoin and if I may ask what do you mean by Bitcoin originality? Because if you say Bitcoin is original does it mean Ethereum, BNB, Solana, GOLD and some others are not original? Off course they are but the uniqueness of a coin is a measure of it value and potential. Any investor who accumulate consistently regardless of how much they are using to... and hold for a long period of time will definitely have the cause to smile.

[GeorgeJohn]

Bitcoin is an independent coin and it's originality is what has brought about the unique features we are seeing today and it took it time, but some time I wonder how people want to come in and rush out, anyone who is already captivevated with the mindset of selling too soon will find it difficult to stay for long but anyone who feels the need to allow whatever they have to grow before coming in May not sell, there is different between planting and harvesting, there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

investment of Bitcoin for long-term or short-term is been determined to the target of the investors, their's some people who loves to invest in bitcoin on short-term, why some people loves to invest on Bitcoin in long-term, so it depends on the target of the investors, I may indirectly say that some people who loves a long-term investment, are the people that has money and they invest on target, and they have other funds to sustain, whereas, people who frequently go for short-term investment investment, are people who is scared of losing money for investment and it maybe that they borrow to invest in order to make weekly or monthly profit from bitcoin.

[Churchillvv]

Bitcoin is an independent coin and it's originality is what has brought about the unique features we are seeing today and it took it time, but some time I wonder how people want to come in and rush out, anyone who is already captivevated with the mindset of selling too soon will find it difficult to stay for long but anyone who feels the need to allow whatever they have to grow before coming in May not sell, there is different between planting and harvesting, there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

Of course if you read from the 1st page to at least 5th page of this thread you will figure out that selling has always been discouraged however one can use some of the sustainable withdrawal ideas to take profit when it's due yet for those of us here especially the noobs who are yet to achieve a great portfolio with bitcoin investment selling or withdrawals shouldn't be a priority as accumulation is more encouraged at this level than selling.

[Glen Hoddle]

Bitcoin is an independent coin and it's originality is what has brought about the unique features we are seeing today and it took it time, but some time I wonder how people want to come in and rush out, anyone who is already captivevated with the mindset of selling too soon will find it difficult to stay for long but anyone who feels the need to allow whatever they have to grow before coming in May not sell, there is different between planting and harvesting, there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

Investing in bitcoins will definitely keep you on your way to success, because whenever you invest bitcoins your mind will instantly connect and want to invest again and again.  That's why you just start investing in Bitcoin once, then you can see your own success. 
But you can determine and execute your plan properly, but investing is most useful in the wind until the next bull market, in the next bull market we will stay for a total period of 4 to 5 years so within these four to five years you can definitely make yourself self-sufficient with Bitcoin investment.
  If you invest in bitcoins weekly or even monthly then you will have maximum investment on your part.

[JayJuanGee]

Bitcoin is an independent coin and it's originality is what has brought about the unique features we are seeing today and it took it time, but some time I wonder how people want to come in and rush out, anyone who is already captivevated with the mindset of selling too soon will find it difficult to stay for long but anyone who feels the need to allow whatever they have to grow before coming in May not sell, there is different between planting and harvesting, there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

investment of Bitcoin for long-term or short-term is been determined to the target of the investors, their's some people who loves to invest in bitcoin on short-term, why some people loves to invest on Bitcoin in long-term, so it depends on the target of the investors, I may indirectly say that some people who loves a long-term investment, are the people that has money and they invest on target, and they have other funds to sustain, whereas, people who frequently go for short-term investment investment, are people who is scared of losing money for investment and it maybe that they borrow to invest in order to make weekly or monthly profit from bitcoin.

Getting in and out of bitcoin for periods of anything less than 4 years is trading and not investing, even if you call it investing.  Sure we can argue about semantics, and there are a lot of folks (I mean traders) who  consider less than 4 year timelines to be investing, even when they are purposefully planning to play their conjecture of the bitcoin wave within a four year cycle and perhaps try to build up their investment in the earlier stages of the cycle and then try to get out completely (or mostly) toward the top  of the cycle with an  intention  of buying  back lower when the BTC price dips later in the cycle.  That sounds like trading rather than investing even though some  traders will refer to their activities as investing.

I understand that long-term traders may consider their trading capital and their building up of their trading capital as a form of investment, and I would not disagree with that kind of a characterization of their desire to build their trading capital, and  maybe they might start out with $1,000 or they might add to it from time to time from some of their outside income, yet over the years they might strive to build it up to $10k and  then  to $50k and then to $100k and then maybe to various larger amounts, and of course,  the larger that they can build their trading capital, then the more sizeable positions they can maintain at one time and even to play some of their positions off of each other, perhaps even some positions being hedges for other positions. 

In any event, even if there might be logical ways that traders could characterize their building up of their trading  capital holdings in terms of being their investment, I would still disagree that planning to get in and out of bitcoin in less than 4 years would not be considered investing, even if there might be intentions to build the amount of the bitcoin that are holding by going through various trades (or even intentions to play the BIG swings within cycles).

[Cryptoprincess101]

Bitcoin is an independent coin and it's originality is what has brought about the unique features we are seeing today and it took it time, but some time I wonder how people want to come in and rush out, anyone who is already captivevated with the mindset of selling too soon will find it difficult to stay for long but anyone who feels the need to allow whatever they have to grow before coming in May not sell, there is different between planting and harvesting, there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

investment of Bitcoin for long-term or short-term is been determined to the target of the investors, their's some people who loves to invest in bitcoin on short-term, why some people loves to invest on Bitcoin in long-term, so it depends on the target of the investors, I may indirectly say that some people who loves a long-term investment, are the people that has money and they invest on target, and they have other funds to sustain, whereas, people who frequently go for short-term investment investment, are people who is scared of losing money for investment and it maybe that they borrow to invest in order to make weekly or monthly profit from bitcoin.

I doubt if folks that chooses to invest for a long term are financially buoyant people ALONE, anyone who have a clear understanding about bitcoin investment should know that it is profitable when you embark on a long-term investment journey even though you are financially capable or not. Short term investors are basically those that are only interested in short term gains of which it is possible that they can go borrowing since they are of the idea that their investment can yield them profits in the short run hoping that they can pay back their loan after making some profits from their investment. But it will be unwise for any investor to borrow money to invest in bitcoin with a short-term target of taking profits even for a long-term investor, there is no need to go borrowing just to fulfil your investment target and that is why the DCA is there for you to apply so that you don't get pressured at any time but by consistently investing same amount of money at different intervals gives you the liberty to follow your investment with ease instead of borrowing to fulfil your set investment goals.

[laijsica]

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

buying a coin in dip is quit safer than buying it when it is already high at price, but most of the buyer only buy coins when it is already on top because they can't control thier emotions, and that is the big problem not only today but also from the past people is greedy and they cannot control thier emotions and that make them loss.

Since we are talking about bitcoin investment, I want you to understand that there's no right time to invest in bitcoin. If you are waiting to buy bitcoin in a dip, you are wasting your time, and you may possibly miss out on accumulating a reasonable amount of bitcoin since no man or woman on planet earth can actually predict when a dip will happen. Instead of waiting for a dip, you can start accumulating bitcoin with the DCA strategy when you money is readily available because the DCA strategy will allow you to even accumulate bitcoin in the bullish trend and the bearish trend, and it will also control your emotions.

I still doubt that those who really want to invest in Bitcoin are actually waiting for the price of Bitcoin to drop. Maybe this trend exists among people who don't know that small fractions of Bitcoin can be purchased. A Bitcoin investor never worries about the price of Bitcoin falling, He always has a thought about how he can increase his income, which he will use to accumulate more Bitcoins, that is buy Bitcoins. He even has a tendency to wonder how he will be able to grow his Bitcoin investment. For example people who want to trade may often hear that it is better to buy Bitcoin at a low price and they think that is reasonable. In fact if you ask a real investor, they will never say, Buy Bitcoin tomorrow or Buy Bitcoin the next day. Even real investors would never mention that it is better to wait for the price of Bitcoin to drop.

There are some people who think differently, there are Bitcoin investors who buy Bitcoin only when there's a dip no matter how small or little the dip is they believe is a better way to accumulate and hold Bitcoin for long term, we have a lot of Bitcoin strategy and to be honest there are people who won't be comfortable using the DCA strategy and is not in our power to decide for them the strategy they should use, however what we can do is discuss the different advantage and disadvantage of Bitcoin strategies and an investor who wants to grow will find a more better option, when I started Bitcoin investment i was accumulating only during the dip but when I came into this forum I discovered other strategy and that was how I started using DCA strategy because it was a better strategy, using the DCA strategy will still make you benefit from any dip especially an investor that has backup funds, waiting for a dip to come before you buy Bitcoin will delay your accumulation journey, if you are always waiting for a dip before you can start accumulating then years will pass and you have not Accumulated anything meaningful.

Those who think differently about Bitcoin accumulation do not actually have the right knowledge about Bitcoin. The investors I have seen are ready to buy Bitcoin at any price because they know that its value is likely to skyrocket in the future. You should not destroy your thoughts for buying dips. Despite the abundance of Bitcoin strategies, you should focus more on accumulating Bitcoin through the DCA method. Those who have enough money will review those many strategies. For those who are new investors, the DCA strategy is the most suitable because they can accumulate Bitcoin according to their ability every week without the need to invest a lot of money.

I don’t think you will find any investor who would say that they are not comfortable with the DCA strategy. Those investors who have a lot of money may have different strategies but they also strive to average their portfolio UP to accumulate Bitcoin continuously. Buying Bitcoin dips is only relevant for those who know a limited amount about Bitcoin. You don't have to wait for dips, buying opportunity to you  at any time.

[Cryptohygenic]

Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

Either in trading or investing in the cryptocurrency, everyone's goal is a make profits despites the time difference of long or short term while we have also want to be in the position to buy at Dip or cheap price, we keep hoping to hold our assets or trades to the market that we can always make profits so, we buy whenever and with whatever market price that fits our emotions while target to sell in a profit market price. As for traders, they could buy and sell anytime as they trades on daily markets while investors sell on market target to when their bought values has increased to bring them profit

[SOKO-DEKE]

Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

Either in trading or investing in the cryptocurrency, everyone's goal is a make profits despites the time difference of long or short term while we have also want to be in the position to buy at Dip or cheap price, we keep hoping to hold our assets or trades to the market that we can always make profits so, we buy whenever and with whatever market price that fits our emotions while target to sell in a profit market price. As for traders, they could buy and sell anytime as they trades on daily markets while investors sell on market target to when their bought values has increased to bring them profit

Yes, both trading and investment are for making profits, but the reason why they are advising people to hold their Bitcoin for the long term is because it is the best way to make reasonable profits from Bitcoin. Trading is very risky and offers less assurance compared to Bitcoin investment, which someone can hold for the long term.

It is not that people are not making profits in trading, but to be honest, if we consider 100% of traders, only a small percentage actually succeed. Many traders even lose their capital because they keep losing. However, in investment, once someone can hold Bitcoin for a long period of time, they will definitely be in great profit.

So, if we should check the statistics of traders versus long term holders after 10 years, we will see that it is the investors who are always in a better position. Someone can be making money from trading but still waste it in the process that is what many traders do.

[Fara Chan]

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Either in trading or investing in the cryptocurrency, everyone's goal is a make profits despites the time difference of long or short term while we have also want to be in the position to buy at Dip or cheap price, we keep hoping to hold our assets or trades to the market that we can always make profits so, we buy whenever and with whatever market price that fits our emotions while target to sell in a profit market price. As for traders, they could buy and sell anytime as they trades on daily markets while investors sell on market target to when their bought values has increased to bring them profit

I think that kind of thing needs to be sorted out more deeply so that it is not mixed between one thing and another even though the goals are not much different between traders and investors. Because traders can choose more coins to put into trading in any market with the aim of short-term profit in certain conditions, while investors who like to invest in the long term I think they will not choose more coins to be considered as their own future investment except only in coins that have been proven to be fundamentally strong and also strong in their use cases, namely Bitcoin, not others.

So the trader's strategy with the investor's strategy will never be combined with each other even though someone can run both of them at the same time but he still has to use a different strategy for himself. Because someone will only dare to invest when he already knows very well about the strength of demand for one of the assets such as Bitcoin because Bitcoin is much more certain to provide more profit than other coins that still have the potential to be dumped by the market when the volume of demand begins to disappear.

[Umulala-alala]

Bitcoin is an independent coin and it's originality is what has brought about the unique features we are seeing today and it took it time, but some time I wonder how people want to come in and rush out, anyone who is already captivevated with the mindset of selling too soon will find it difficult to stay for long but anyone who feels the need to allow whatever they have to grow before coming in May not sell, there is different between planting and harvesting, there is always a different between harvesting a matured and a premature and the taste will always be different. We don't have to sell when we should be buying neither should we be selling prematurely.

investment of Bitcoin for long-term or short-term is been determined to the target of the investors, their's some people who loves to invest in bitcoin on short-term, why some people loves to invest on Bitcoin in long-term, so it depends on the target of the investors, I may indirectly say that some people who loves a long-term investment, are the people that has money and they invest on target, and they have other funds to sustain, whereas, people who frequently go for short-term investment investment, are people who is scared of losing money for investment and it maybe that they borrow to invest in order to make weekly or monthly profit from bitcoin.

Those people you see that invest in bitcoin for a short time are called traders and not investors because investor buys bitcoin and keep for a long time which is from 4 to 10 years and counting anything below 4 years is trading.
You also wrong by saying that people who invest for a longer time are rich people i want you to know that low class people also invest in bitcoin for a longer time, investing for a short time doesn't mean you are poor for that is just a trading mentality whereas bitcoin shouldn't be traded.

Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

Either in trading or investing in the cryptocurrency, everyone's goal is a make profits despites the time difference of long or short term while we have also want to be in the position to buy at Dip or cheap price, we keep hoping to hold our assets or trades to the market that we can always make profits so, we buy whenever and with whatever market price that fits our emotions while target to sell in a profit market price. As for traders, they could buy and sell anytime as they trades on daily markets while investors sell on market target to when their bought values has increased to bring them profit

This is not a trading thread where you will be taking about trading or talking about taking profit at early stage and also there are terms which are not allowed in this thread like the one you mentioned which is cryptocurrency and don't go and buy shitcoins this things don't last, invest on bitcoin and hodl for long before talking about profit what you should be talking about is how you can buy more bitcoin using the Dollar Cost Average method and hodl.