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[Showlove01]

You should never think about ten years ago because at that time, risk could only bring success,

This makes little sense.  10 years ago there were similar kinds of concerns as there are now, yet we can see after the fact that investing into bitcoin ended up paying off quite well including that the more aggressively anyone invested into bitcoin (without overdoing it) then the better the payoff. 

Personally, I think that similar kinds of underlying principles continue to exist in regards to the more aggressive anyone invest into bitcoin (without over doing it) the likely better will be the future payoffs, 4-10 years or longer down the road.

It is also likely the slope of the upward curve is not going to be as steep into the next 10 years as it had been in the past 10 years, yet these days, the downside risk of the next 10 years seems to be less extreme, too.  When governments and large financial institutions are jumping onboard, it becomes harder to reverse courses... .not impossible to reverse but there is a certain value in the Lindy Effects that are created with bitcoin being in existence longer and seeming to ongoingly becoming stronger and stronger and stronger.

Same way most people who recently began investing are wishing they started 10 years ago is the same way people who are still procrastinating now would wish they started earlier too in 10 years upwards, if you take a look at the figures you'll see that it's still earliy compared to what we all hope it would be like in the next time years, if they picture bitcoin at $1m or above in 10 years from now then the investor who started recently would stop wishing they invested in the past but take their current investment seriously.

 You'll hear people say it's not too late and they're right afterall cause if one could start now an hold till 10 years time when bitcoin probably gets past $1m then they won't even feel they missed the opportunity earlier investors of about 2011 to 2020 had cause they too would've made lots of profits in 10 years from now whether they're very aggressive with their investment or not.

I completely agree with you. Most people think that the value will DIP and then they will buy. I think the value that Bitcoin has now is in the DIP end.. because it doesn't seem like it will drop any further. Bitcoin may reach a price around 150k in the next 4 to 5 months. Those who start investing then will think that if they had started 4 months ago, they would have definitely made more profit. Actually, it's true that you have to think about a lot of things before making a decision. but if he will think that he will invest if the price of Bitcoin drops, they will not be able to continue investing for 4 to 10 years according to the DCA method. When the price increases significantly, they will sell their BTC. But if you invest patiently for 10 years or so, the profit would be much higher. Investing in BTC using the DCA method is much more profitable than any other investment. Now, more important than how much money he starts investing with or how much BTC he buys and starts HODLing is how early he decides to start investing in BTC and how long he will continue investing for. I think that every moment is the right time to invest in Bitcoin. As the days pass, the more profits we will lose.

I agree with you buddy, the way Bitcoin is moving I am also having this thought that it may not go below $100k because it is far above that price now but who knows, Bitcoin is a very volatile asset so it is possible for it to go below $100k and it is also possible for it not to go below because volatility doesn't just mean Dip alone but uptrend too. Bitcoin hitting $150k in the next 4-5 months seems possible because of the potential but I think it look somehow like over speculation or over hype but like I said it is possible and it is even possible for Bitcoin to cross that price but it would make more sense if we are investing and not just speculating.

[Miramax12]

Our level of aggressiveness or whimpiness is a choice, and there are ways to be aggressive without overdoing it, and surely the more aggressive we are, the more we run the risk of overdoing it in one way or another.. yet I doubt that being aggressive is a negative because we are able to tailor it to our own aspirations, and try to keep in mind if we might be pushing the boundaries too much in terms of starting to have negative consequences associated with our level of aggressiveness.

You are absolutely right, aggressiveness itself is a negative energy that brings in bad results, which can damage an individual lives.

Though aggressiveness is an emotion, which can be control by an individual if they don't want it to escalate, because if not control or balanced, it can affect in different areas of life like relationships, work etc.

Also, having self-regulation can help in adjusting their emotions or balancing to prevent any negative things that will be caused by aggression.

Your bot might need to better learn how to comprehend what you are reading...   You are mischaracterizing, misunderstanding and/or perhaps you have no fucking clue about what I said.  You are just making up your own bullshit spin.

In regards to bitcoin investing, we use the term aggressive to show how much a guy might prioritize investing into bitcoin so relatively speaking he chooses a higher level of his discretionary income is put into bitcoin, so the more and more aggressive he is, then he might make mistakes and overdo it or miscalculate and go beyond his discretionary income.  So, sometimes guys can inadvertently overdo their aggressiveness in their bitcoin buying, and I frequently proclaim that guys should attempt to invest into bitcoin as aggressive as they can without overdoing it, so they have to figure out how much investing into bitcoin and prioritizing investing into bitcoin is enough, but not too much for them and their circumstances..

For sure, so many folks do not invest in bitcoin at all, so it seems to me that it would be better for them to choose to invest into bitcoin, even if they were to invest into bitcoin whimpily rather than not at all, so from my perspective, investing whimpily into bitcoin is better than not investing at all.

In the end, each of us chooses whether or not to invest into bitcoin, and then we also choose our level of aggressiveness or our whimpiness in terms of how much of our discretionary income we invest into bitcoin.  We have to have discretionary income in order to invest in bitcoin, otherwise if we buy bitcoin out of money that we need for expenses, then we are trading/gambling rather than investing and we are also overdoing our aggressiveness from my perspective. 

There is no exact right answer, even though there are consequences to our actions, and historically, bitcoin has rewarded those who have invested into it and has rewarded those who aggressively invested into bitcoin even moreso, since bitcoin has been a quite positively performing asset, and aggressiveness was rewarded, so long as they did not overdo it.  Since we are currently at all time highs in our BTC prices, anyone who errored on the side of investing into bitcoin over the years, has ended up doing quite well over the years, and sure the longer that they have been in bitcoin, buying bitcoin and holding bitcoin the better for their finances, yet they also need to have enough income to be able to pay for their living expenses while they are investing into bitcoin over the years.

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You can buy with your discretionary income using DCA method. How much of your discretionary income you invest is entirely up to you. But I think if you invest 5% to 25% of your discretionary income, it will be much better for you. You can buy aggressively during the downturn with the remaining money you have.

A standard of aiming for 5% to 25% of a guys income to go into bitcoin is referring to general income, not to discretionary income.

Of course if a guy is investing 25% of his income into  bitcoin, there is a presumption that the discretionary income is at least 25% of the guy's regular income, and then if is investing 100% of his discretionary income, he might be on the border of overdoing it.

There are some guys who have fairly high levels of discretionary income, so surely the higher their discretionary income, the more options they have in regards to how to use such discretionary income, whether investing, consumption or putting into back up funds.

It would be erroneous to suggest that guys invest 5% to 25% of their discretionary funds and act as if that would automatically be reasonable, since for some folks such levels of investment into bitcoin might be whimpy or overly whimpy in terms of their overall abilities, and/or wants.

You are right Aggression can drive and emotionally channeled and speed up ambition, with being self awareness and emotional regulation ,will can select how we can express it in a way that  aligns with our ambition without crossing  a line that with hot us,  being so assertive doesn't mean destructive so we got to learn to project our ability with intention and control, not just uploadin

[Scarlett_23]

You should never think about ten years ago because at that time, risk could only bring success,

This makes little sense.  10 years ago there were similar kinds of concerns as there are now, yet we can see after the fact that investing into bitcoin ended up paying off quite well including that the more aggressively anyone invested into bitcoin (without overdoing it) then the better the payoff. 

Personally, I think that similar kinds of underlying principles continue to exist in regards to the more aggressive anyone invest into bitcoin (without over doing it) the likely better will be the future payoffs, 4-10 years or longer down the road.

It is also likely the slope of the upward curve is not going to be as steep into the next 10 years as it had been in the past 10 years, yet these days, the downside risk of the next 10 years seems to be less extreme, too.  When governments and large financial institutions are jumping onboard, it becomes harder to reverse courses... .not impossible to reverse but there is a certain value in the Lindy Effects that are created with bitcoin being in existence longer and seeming to ongoingly becoming stronger and stronger and stronger.

Same way most people who recently began investing are wishing they started 10 years ago is the same way people who are still procrastinating now would wish they started earlier too in 10 years upwards, if you take a look at the figures you'll see that it's still earliy compared to what we all hope it would be like in the next time years, if they picture bitcoin at $1m or above in 10 years from now then the investor who started recently would stop wishing they invested in the past but take their current investment seriously.

 You'll hear people say it's not too late and they're right afterall cause if one could start now an hold till 10 years time when bitcoin probably gets past $1m then they won't even feel they missed the opportunity earlier investors of about 2011 to 2020 had cause they too would've made lots of profits in 10 years from now whether they're very aggressive with their investment or not.

I completely agree with you. Most people think that the value will DIP and then they will buy. I think the value that Bitcoin has now is in the DIP end.. because it doesn't seem like it will drop any further. Bitcoin may reach a price around 150k in the next 4 to 5 months. Those who start investing then will think that if they had started 4 months ago, they would have definitely made more profit. Actually, it's true that you have to think about a lot of things before making a decision. but if he will think that he will invest if the price of Bitcoin drops, they will not be able to continue investing for 4 to 10 years according to the DCA method. When the price increases significantly, they will sell their BTC. But if you invest patiently for 10 years or so, the profit would be much higher. Investing in BTC using the DCA method is much more profitable than any other investment. Now, more important than how much money he starts investing with or how much BTC he buys and starts HODLing is how early he decides to start investing in BTC and how long he will continue investing for. I think that every moment is the right time to invest in Bitcoin. As the days pass, the more profits we will lose.

I also agree with this. If someone is looking for a good time to invest in Bitcoin, it is today. Because the possibility of Bitcoin's price falling in the future is low. Although sometimes the price decreases to restore market balance, it is temporary, but in the long run, the price of Bitcoin increases.

So if you do not make this decision at the right time, you will only regret it later. And a good method of investment is the DCA method. By investing in this method, it is possible to invest continuously with a small amount. So, the amount of money to invest in Bitcoin is not a big deal.

The big thing is when you start and how long you keep it.

[Achalugo BTC]

Our level of aggressiveness or whimpiness is a choice, and there are ways to be aggressive without overdoing it, and surely the more aggressive we are, the more we run the risk of overdoing it in one way or another.. yet I doubt that being aggressive is a negative because we are able to tailor it to our own aspirations, and try to keep in mind if we might be pushing the boundaries too much in terms of starting to have negative consequences associated with our level of aggressiveness.

You are absolutely right, aggressiveness itself is a negative energy that brings in bad results, which can damage an individual lives.

Though aggressiveness is an emotion, which can be control by an individual if they don't want it to escalate, because if not control or balanced, it can affect in different areas of life like relationships, work etc.

Also, having self-regulation can help in adjusting their emotions or balancing to prevent any negative things that will be caused by aggression.

Your bot might need to better learn how to comprehend what you are reading...   You are mischaracterizing, misunderstanding and/or perhaps you have no fucking clue about what I said.  You are just making up your own bullshit spin.

In regards to bitcoin investing, we use the term aggressive to show how much a guy might prioritize investing into bitcoin so relatively speaking he chooses a higher level of his discretionary income is put into bitcoin, so the more and more aggressive he is, then he might make mistakes and overdo it or miscalculate and go beyond his discretionary income.  So, sometimes guys can inadvertently overdo their aggressiveness in their bitcoin buying, and I frequently proclaim that guys should attempt to invest into bitcoin as aggressive as they can without overdoing it, so they have to figure out how much investing into bitcoin and prioritizing investing into bitcoin is enough, but not too much for them and their circumstances..

For sure, so many folks do not invest in bitcoin at all, so it seems to me that it would be better for them to choose to invest into bitcoin, even if they were to invest into bitcoin whimpily rather than not at all, so from my perspective, investing whimpily into bitcoin is better than not investing at all.

In the end, each of us chooses whether or not to invest into bitcoin, and then we also choose our level of aggressiveness or our whimpiness in terms of how much of our discretionary income we invest into bitcoin.  We have to have discretionary income in order to invest in bitcoin, otherwise if we buy bitcoin out of money that we need for expenses, then we are trading/gambling rather than investing and we are also overdoing our aggressiveness from my perspective.  

There is no exact right answer, even though there are consequences to our actions, and historically, bitcoin has rewarded those who have invested into it and has rewarded those who aggressively invested into bitcoin even moreso, since bitcoin has been a quite positively performing asset, and aggressiveness was rewarded, so long as they did not overdo it.  Since we are currently at all time highs in our BTC prices, anyone who errored on the side of investing into bitcoin over the years, has ended up doing quite well over the years, and sure the longer that they have been in bitcoin, buying bitcoin and holding bitcoin the better for their finances, yet they also need to have enough income to be able to pay for their living expenses while they are investing into bitcoin over the years.

I think I got kind of confused at some point and misunderstood the whole aggressiveness stuff, as related to Bitcoin investment, but your explanation makes a lot more sense now and has provided a more vivid and clearer picture of what you meant. From what I was able to understand and grab from your explanation, aggressiveness in Bitcoin refers to how much of an investor's discretionary income is allocated to Bitcoin accumulation. When we consider an investor to be more aggressive in their approach, it means that they have prioritize Bitcoin investment or accumulation more heavily, but there's actually a very thin line between being overly aggressive in one's approach and overdoing the whole thing, and this can potentially lead to mistakes like investing beyond one's means.

According to your suggestion, you're implying that it's way more better to invest in Bitcoin, even if it's actually whimpily or sluggishly done, than not investing at all, and I find this to be very true and agreeable. You know, there are a lot of investors or should I say those who plan to invest, but they've not been able to make any step towards getting started, maybe because their idea of Bitcoin accumulation is being aggressive, so they can reach their long term goals faster, and since they currently do not have the resources to invest in that pace, they choose not to get started, and this is way worst than investing whimpily, especially given the historical performance of Bitcoin, even with a whimpy investor, it'll only take time and dedication before they'll reach their goal. The key I believe lies within finding a balance based on the circumstances and position of the individual and their financial stability. I see that you also emphasized on the importance of having a discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin, rather than using money meant for other expenses, which would seem more like trading or gambling, and I see a lot of sense in what you've said, because if an investor forfeits his expenses and uses the money to invest in Bitcoin, it might later cause him some financial strain, and maybe even lead to using money from your investment to foot those bills/expenses.

From what I understand, the level of aggressiveness is more of a personal choice, and although there could be some consequences to these choices, judging from the historical view of Bitcoin, it has always been rewarding to invest in Bitcoin, especially when a balanced approach is employed.

[JayJuanGee]

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I think I got kind of confused at some point and misunderstood the whole aggressiveness stuff, as related to Bitcoin investment, but your explanation makes a lot more sense now and has provided a more vivid and clearer picture of what you meant. From what I was able to understand and grab from your explanation, aggressiveness in Bitcoin refers to how much of an investor's discretionary income is allocated to Bitcoin accumulation. When we consider an investor to be more aggressive in their approach, it means that they have prioritize Bitcoin investment or accumulation more heavily, but there's actually a very thin line between being overly aggressive in one's approach and overdoing the whole thing, and this can potentially lead to mistakes like investing beyond one's means.

Sure yes.  Choosing to invest aggressively is a choice that might relate to personal preferences, and also relate to how strong the investor has organized his cashflow management systems and practices.  The stronger his cashflow management and existence of various back up funds, then the more aggressive he can afford to be, yet anyone could be at risk of overdoing their aggressiveness if they either miscalculate or they allow their emotions to get them overly excited, which sure is just another form of making mistakes.

According to your suggestion, you're implying that it's way more better to invest in Bitcoin, even if it's actually whimpily or sluggishly done, than not investing at all, and I find this to be very true and agreeable. You know, there are a lot of investors or should I say those who plan to invest, but they've not been able to make any step towards getting started, maybe because their idea of Bitcoin accumulation is being aggressive, so they can reach their long term goals faster, and since they currently do not have the resources to invest in that pace,

I would think in the majority of cases it is not good to start out investing into bitcoin aggressively unless you already have a lot of investing experience and/or you are a fast learner when it comes to what would be a good approach to quickly getting a decently large position in bitcoin.

Most people are better off to hold back a bit in the very beginning and put some kind of a reasonable bitcoin accumulation plan into practice, so for example, a guy with $100k investment portfolio might want to get his bitcoin allocation to 15%, which would be $15k, so maybe he decides to invest around $1k per week for the next 15 weeks (3.5 months), and then to reassess at that time.  There are other ways to exercise some conservativism in the beginning and surely a lot of folks might not be sure about what is their total budget and/or their discretionary income, so a guy who pretty much knows that he could invest $100 per week without having any problems, he might purposefully decide to start out at $30 per week while he is assessing the situation and then when he becomes more comfortable, he might increase his weekly investment amounts... maybe after a few weeks of studying the matter.

they choose not to get started, and this is way worst than investing whimpily, especially given the historical performance of Bitcoin, even with a whimpy investor, it'll only take time and dedication before they'll reach their goal.

Sure getting started is important, even for someone who might later change their mind about bitcoin, but if they at least can put some systems in place such as figuring out their sourcing for their bitcoin buys while they are looking into the bitcoin matter, they may well be better off.

There have been guys who have done quite well with even whimpy allocations to bitcoin, and yeah, sometimes the amount that is invested is so whimpy (or small) that it might not make a material difference.  Let's say that the example of the guy with a $100k investment portfolio.  He earns around $50k per year, so his investment portfolio is worth about 2x his annual income.

Maybe the guy decides to put $10 per month into bitcoin or even $10 per week into bitcoin, and based on his finances, either of those positions seems way too whimpy in order to make much of a difference, based on his own financial abilities.. yet he is the one to decide how whimpy or aggressive to be.

The key I believe lies within finding a balance based on the circumstances and position of the individual and their financial stability. I see that you also emphasized on the importance of having a discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin, rather than using money meant for other expenses, which would seem more like trading or gambling, and I see a lot of sense in what you've said, because if an investor forfeits his expenses and uses the money to invest in Bitcoin, it might later cause him some financial strain, and maybe even lead to using money from your investment to foot those bills/expenses.

Sometimes it can take a bit of time to put good systems and practices in place, and in the very beginning a guy might not even realize what is the difference between trading and investing, and even if he hears that others believe that bitcoin is a 4-10 year or longer investment, the idea might not sink in with him personally, so he might not actually understand it, even though he still might start out by investing into bitcoin with a shorter than 4 year timeline... but then as he learns more about bitcoin, he may well come to understand and accept that bitcoin investing is 4 years minimum for any of his new investments into it... and not a shorter timeline, so his ideas may well change as he better gets to know bitcoin and some of the ways that bitcoin is a relatively unique asset.

From what I understand, the level of aggressiveness is more of a personal choice, and although there could be some consequences to these choices, judging from the historical view of Bitcoin, it has always been rewarding to invest in Bitcoin, especially when a balanced approach is employed.

Historically guys have been rewarded for their aggressiveness in bitcoin and mostly holding their BTC as long as they did not end up losing their BTC or trying to trade or engage in margin and/or overly leveraging of their coins.  History does not guarantee future performance. .even though it can help us to better understand an asset like bitcoin.

[Pi-network314159]

The key I believe lies within finding a balance based on the circumstances and position of the individual and their financial stability. I see that you also emphasized on the importance of having a discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin, rather than using money meant for other expenses, which would seem more like trading or gambling, and I see a lot of sense in what you've said, because if an investor forfeits his expenses and uses the money to invest in Bitcoin, it might later cause him some financial strain, and maybe even lead to using money from your investment to foot those bills/expenses.

Sometimes it can take a bit of time to put good systems and practices in place, and in the very beginning a guy might not even realize what is the difference between trading and investing, and even if he hears that others believe that bitcoin is a 4-10 year or longer investment, the idea might not sink in with him personally, so he might not actually understand it, even though he still might start out by investing into bitcoin with a shorter than 4 year timeline... but then as he learns more about bitcoin, he may well come to understand and accept that bitcoin investing is 4 years minimum for any of his new investments into it... and not a shorter timeline, so his ideas may well change as he better gets to know bitcoin and some of the ways that bitcoin is a relatively unique asset.

Yes expecialy the newbies who might have spent less than 1 to 4 months here. We have also been on that situation and needed a lot of conviction for it to sink into our head but as time goes it becomes part of us. And I believe why people finds it hard to understand the concept of 4-10 years or more, is because they are often stocked to the  orientation of other people about Bitcoin investment and trading outside forum. A person who understands Bitcoin outside forum will usually have a different view about Bitcoin investment and trading but with the help of collective ideas from different people expecialy from thread like this  will shape a person into another dimension of knowledge except such person is bent on following his own ideas. And I bet such person will never learn.

[Solokan]

Despite its volatile nature, Bitcoin surely will always appreciate and thus, investing up to a half of Income is a wise one with future mindset.

Investing up to half of your income it’s not actually ideal , in as much you consider the bigger picture of Bitcoin in the future , you should also understand it’s a long term investment, so you are adviced to invest with your discretionary income, so that it won’t affect you unless you have other business and investment that can fetch you some money , if not investing half of your income may affect your accumulation journey or properly result to selling when you don’t have much money with you .

yes, investing using discretionary money is indeed very good and indeed the right way to buy btc is to use discretionary money. but in my opinion, if invest using half of discretionary money, of course, in my opinion there is nothing wrong because of course not all discretionary money is put into btc. but honestly I am impressed at someone who is so ambitious to buy btc that he wants to buy half of his income whether it is discretionary money or not. but it is true that your opinion is that if our have income from other sources, there is nothing wrong with using half of income to buy btc.

considering that investing in btc is best for the long term, of course an investor must be able to manage existing income which is certainly so that we can hold btc for the long term and for sure we also don't forget about emergency funds and it would be better if emergency funds should always be added because of course fiat money is always exposed to inflation and of course if the emergency fund is more and more, of course, it will definitely make us longer in holding btc, it could even be more than 10 years and will not sell the btc because if there are unexpected needs, we always use emergency money because of the large amount of emergency funds. and it is true that if for example we cannot manage it and not in a good way in investing in btc, it will definitely end up selling btc because of unmet life needs.

[Cipherpz]

Despite its volatile nature, Bitcoin surely will always appreciate and thus, investing up to a half of Income is a wise one with future mindset.

Investing up to half of your income it’s not actually ideal , in as much you consider the bigger picture of Bitcoin in the future , you should also understand it’s a long term investment, so you are adviced to invest with your discretionary income, so that it won’t affect you unless you have other business and investment that can fetch you some money , if not investing half of your income may affect your accumulation journey or properly result to selling when you don’t have much money with you .

yes, investing using discretionary money is indeed very good and indeed the right way to buy btc is to use discretionary money. but in my opinion, if invest using half of discretionary money, of course, in my opinion there is nothing wrong because of course not all discretionary money is put into btc. but honestly I am impressed at someone who is so ambitious to buy btc that he wants to buy half of his income whether it is discretionary money or not. but it is true that your opinion is that if our have income from other sources, there is nothing wrong with using half of income to buy btc.

considering that investing in btc is best for the long term, of course an investor must be able to manage existing income which is certainly so that we can hold btc for the long term and for sure we also don't forget about emergency funds and it would be better if emergency funds should always be added because of course fiat money is always exposed to inflation and of course if the emergency fund is more and more, of course, it will definitely make us longer in holding btc, it could even be more than 10 years and will not sell the btc because if there are unexpected needs, we always use emergency money because of the large amount of emergency funds. and it is true that if for example we cannot manage it and not in a good way in investing in btc, it will definitely end up selling btc because of unmet life needs.

For a successful investor, an emergency fund is a very important foundation for immediate success in making the right decisions with mental prudence. Prudence usually means investing a part of our income in Bitcoin, building an emergency fund, and having a long-term investment perspective. Investing means making decisions by considering risks. If we prudently invest a part or half of our earned money in BTC and maintain a good balance of risk and potential, then it is especially suitable for those investors who want to look at the bright prospects of the future and do not want to give up the security of the present. This certainly requires courage and high expectations, but it is not always suitable for everyone. Because for some, investing 50% of the income may be realistic, while for others, 5% may be risky enough. Since BTC is a long-term investment and its financial market price fluctuates, if the investor sells BTC at a low price under financial pressure, the main goal is disrupted. However, having an emergency fund reduces that pressure a lot and makes BTC a real long-term storage opportunity. The ability to hold is not only psychological but also depends on the financial foundation. Respect ambition, on the other hand, do not neglect risk management so that your writing is commendable. I think this should be the attitude of an ideal investor. This mindset not only makes investing profitable, but can also ensure peace of mind. We can be successful if we move forward with prior preparation, planned knowledge, and fixed goals.

[Tungbulu]

According to your suggestion, you're implying that it's way more better to invest in Bitcoin, even if it's actually whimpily or sluggishly done, than not investing at all, and I find this to be very true and agreeable. You know, there are a lot of investors or should I say those who plan to invest, but they've not been able to make any step towards getting started, maybe because their idea of Bitcoin accumulation is being aggressive, so they can reach their long term goals faster, and since they currently do not have the resources to invest in that pace,

I would think in the majority of cases it is not good to start out investing into bitcoin aggressively unless you already have a lot of investing experience and/or you are a fast learner when it comes to what would be a good approach to quickly getting a decently large position in bitcoin.

Most people are better off to hold back a bit in the very beginning and put some kind of a reasonable bitcoin accumulation plan into practice, so for example, a guy with $100k investment portfolio might want to get his bitcoin allocation to 15%, which would be $15k, so maybe he decides to invest around $1k per week for the next 15 weeks (3.5 months), and then to reassess at that time.  There are other ways to exercise some conservativism in the beginning and surely a lot of folks might not be sure about what is their total budget and/or their discretionary income, so a guy who pretty much knows that he could invest $100 per week without having any problems, he might purposefully decide to start out at $30 per week while he is assessing the situation and then when he becomes more comfortable, he might increase his weekly investment amounts... maybe after a few weeks of studying the matter.

Your perspective is absolutely spot on. Getting started with Bitcoin accumulation aggressively isn't quite a great idea, except of course the investor involved is quick learner and is able to understand and quickly grab the basic rules and concepts of investing in Bitcoin after getting started and as they proceed. More people who come into Bitcoin are way more better getting started with a more measured approach, just like having to set a preferable accumulation plan. I like your example of the guy with a $100k portfolio and was aiming for a 15% Bitcoin allocation and investing $1k at a weekly interval for 15 weeks, I feel this is a very solid strategy because by sticking to this accumulation plan, he'll get the plan to access the market and also be able to adjust his strategy or plan if/when needed and/or necessary.

I also love the fact that you mentioned starting small and then gradually increasing your investment amount overtime. If a guy knows for sure that he can comfortably invest $100 every week without having a issues or being financially strained, then getting started with $30 per week to get comfortable and then gradually stepping up the investment amount makes a lot of sense. In the long run, it's just all about finding a balance and a plan that works for you and aligns perfectly with your own unique financial situation. It's one thing to have a plan and another to stick to those plans, but if you're able to develop a solid plan and also stick to those plans, especially in  beginning of your accumulation journey, it'll definitely help you build some level of confidence and potentially reduce your chances of making impulsive decisions. And yeah, the key to determining and choosing how much you can realistically invest in Bitcoin without having to put yourself in touch position still remains figuring out your personal budget and of course your discretionary income, having a solid plan and also being disciplined enough to stick to those plans.

[Lembo69]

You should never think about ten years ago because at that time, risk could only bring success,

This makes little sense.  10 years ago there were similar kinds of concerns as there are now, yet we can see after the fact that investing into bitcoin ended up paying off quite well including that the more aggressively anyone invested into bitcoin (without overdoing it) then the better the payoff. 

Personally, I think that similar kinds of underlying principles continue to exist in regards to the more aggressive anyone invest into bitcoin (without over doing it) the likely better will be the future payoffs, 4-10 years or longer down the road.

It is also likely the slope of the upward curve is not going to be as steep into the next 10 years as it had been in the past 10 years, yet these days, the downside risk of the next 10 years seems to be less extreme, too.  When governments and large financial institutions are jumping onboard, it becomes harder to reverse courses... .not impossible to reverse but there is a certain value in the Lindy Effects that are created with bitcoin being in existence longer and seeming to ongoingly becoming stronger and stronger and stronger.

Same way most people who recently began investing are wishing they started 10 years ago is the same way people who are still procrastinating now would wish they started earlier too in 10 years upwards, if you take a look at the figures you'll see that it's still earliy compared to what we all hope it would be like in the next time years, if they picture bitcoin at $1m or above in 10 years from now then the investor who started recently would stop wishing they invested in the past but take their current investment seriously.

 You'll hear people say it's not too late and they're right afterall cause if one could start now an hold till 10 years time when bitcoin probably gets past $1m then they won't even feel they missed the opportunity earlier investors of about 2011 to 2020 had cause they too would've made lots of profits in 10 years from now whether they're very aggressive with their investment or not.

I completely agree with you. Most people think that the value will DIP and then they will buy. I think the value that Bitcoin has now is in the DIP end.. because it doesn't seem like it will drop any further. Bitcoin may reach a price around 150k in the next 4 to 5 months. Those who start investing then will think that if they had started 4 months ago, they would have definitely made more profit. Actually, it's true that you have to think about a lot of things before making a decision. but if he will think that he will invest if the price of Bitcoin drops, they will not be able to continue investing for 4 to 10 years according to the DCA method. When the price increases significantly, they will sell their BTC. But if you invest patiently for 10 years or so, the profit would be much higher. Investing in BTC using the DCA method is much more profitable than any other investment. Now, more important than how much money he starts investing with or how much BTC he buys and starts HODLing is how early he decides to start investing in BTC and how long he will continue investing for. I think that every moment is the right time to invest in Bitcoin. As the days pass, the more profits we will lose.

Bitcoin is now known as the most valuable asset among cryptocurrencies. Seeing the current market price of Bitcoin, many investors are thinking that they will start investing during the dip. But before that dip, the price of Bitcoin may increase further. Investors should buy and invest in Bitcoin at this current market price. Before investing, you should hesitate. Because you are thinking of investing, but no one else may think of it. Remember that Bitcoin is limited. So if you have money, start investing as early as possible. Because everyone now knows Bitcoin as a known currency in the world. And that is why people like to invest in Bitcoin, no government has any hand in it. Therefore, deposit and hold as much BTC as possible. Hold your Bitcoin for at least 4 years, only then will you get good results.

Investing in Bitcoin is like planting a fruit tree. Just as you have to wait 4-5 years for the fruit after planting a tree, you also have to wait in the case of Bitcoin. So buy and hold Bitcoin now so you don't regret it later.

[laijsica]

You should never think about ten years ago because at that time, risk could only bring success,

This makes little sense.  10 years ago there were similar kinds of concerns as there are now, yet we can see after the fact that investing into bitcoin ended up paying off quite well including that the more aggressively anyone invested into bitcoin (without overdoing it) then the better the payoff. 

Personally, I think that similar kinds of underlying principles continue to exist in regards to the more aggressive anyone invest into bitcoin (without over doing it) the likely better will be the future payoffs, 4-10 years or longer down the road.

It is also likely the slope of the upward curve is not going to be as steep into the next 10 years as it had been in the past 10 years, yet these days, the downside risk of the next 10 years seems to be less extreme, too.  When governments and large financial institutions are jumping onboard, it becomes harder to reverse courses... .not impossible to reverse but there is a certain value in the Lindy Effects that are created with bitcoin being in existence longer and seeming to ongoingly becoming stronger and stronger and stronger.

Same way most people who recently began investing are wishing they started 10 years ago is the same way people who are still procrastinating now would wish they started earlier too in 10 years upwards, if you take a look at the figures you'll see that it's still earliy compared to what we all hope it would be like in the next time years, if they picture bitcoin at $1m or above in 10 years from now then the investor who started recently would stop wishing they invested in the past but take their current investment seriously.

 You'll hear people say it's not too late and they're right afterall cause if one could start now an hold till 10 years time when bitcoin probably gets past $1m then they won't even feel they missed the opportunity earlier investors of about 2011 to 2020 had cause they too would've made lots of profits in 10 years from now whether they're very aggressive with their investment or not.

I completely agree with you. Most people think that the value will DIP and then they will buy. I think the value that Bitcoin has now is in the DIP end.. because it doesn't seem like it will drop any further. Bitcoin may reach a price around 150k in the next 4 to 5 months. Those who start investing then will think that if they had started 4 months ago, they would have definitely made more profit. Actually, it's true that you have to think about a lot of things before making a decision. but if he will think that he will invest if the price of Bitcoin drops, they will not be able to continue investing for 4 to 10 years according to the DCA method. When the price increases significantly, they will sell their BTC. But if you invest patiently for 10 years or so, the profit would be much higher. Investing in BTC using the DCA method is much more profitable than any other investment. Now, more important than how much money he starts investing with or how much BTC he buys and starts HODLing is how early he decides to start investing in BTC and how long he will continue investing for. I think that every moment is the right time to invest in Bitcoin. As the days pass, the more profits we will lose.

I agree with you buddy, the way Bitcoin is moving I am also having this thought that it may not go below $100k because it is far above that price now but who knows, Bitcoin is a very volatile asset so it is possible for it to go below $100k and it is also possible for it not to go below because volatility doesn't just mean Dip alone but uptrend too. Bitcoin hitting $150k in the next 4-5 months seems possible because of the potential but I think it look somehow like over speculation or over hype but like I said it is possible and it is even possible for Bitcoin to cross that price but it would make more sense if we are investing and not just speculating.

No mate, this is not about excessive speculation. Many of us cannot settle with reality because we lack confidence and we prefer to think negatively. Yes, the price of Bitcoin may experience a lot of dumping and oppositely. If you think negatively it may reach the $100k level. If this happens then you should consider it as another opportunity for you to buy in large quantities. But the pattern of Bitcoin is to buy regularly for two or more cycles of DCA method of accumulation. No matter how Bitcoin price levels affect you you should have a plan to buy regardless of the price and if you do not want to believe in excessive speculation, you should continue to strive to increase your Bitcoin holdings.

[JayJuanGee]

The key I believe lies within finding a balance based on the circumstances and position of the individual and their financial stability. I see that you also emphasized on the importance of having a discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin, rather than using money meant for other expenses, which would seem more like trading or gambling, and I see a lot of sense in what you've said, because if an investor forfeits his expenses and uses the money to invest in Bitcoin, it might later cause him some financial strain, and maybe even lead to using money from your investment to foot those bills/expenses.

Sometimes it can take a bit of time to put good systems and practices in place, and in the very beginning a guy might not even realize what is the difference between trading and investing, and even if he hears that others believe that bitcoin is a 4-10 year or longer investment, the idea might not sink in with him personally, so he might not actually understand it, even though he still might start out by investing into bitcoin with a shorter than 4 year timeline... but then as he learns more about bitcoin, he may well come to understand and accept that bitcoin investing is 4 years minimum for any of his new investments into it... and not a shorter timeline, so his ideas may well change as he better gets to know bitcoin and some of the ways that bitcoin is a relatively unique asset.

Yes expecialy the newbies who might have spent less than 1 to 4 months here. We have also been on that situation and needed a lot of conviction for it to sink into our head but as time goes it becomes part of us. And I believe why people finds it hard to understand the concept of 4-10 years or more, is because they are often stocked to the  orientation of other people about Bitcoin investment and trading outside forum. A person who understands Bitcoin outside forum will usually have a different view about Bitcoin investment and trading but with the help of collective ideas from different people expecialy from thread like this  will shape a person into another dimension of knowledge except such person is bent on following his own ideas. And I bet such person will never learn.

I will agree that some folks go down a wrong path and it can either take them a long time to learn or they might not be able to snap out of a kind of gambling mentality.

There is only so much that we can do but maybe try to share some of the better ideas and attempt to meet people where they are at, in the circumstances that they are interacting genuinely. 

There are likely some members who are trolls or perhaps PsyOps.. so they are not being genuine. .and sure there are some who plagiarize and use bots to write their posts,  and so sometimes it can be difficult to know if someone is actually being genuine or if he is not.

[Derekfunds]

You should never think about ten years ago because at that time, risk could only bring success,

This makes little sense.  10 years ago there were similar kinds of concerns as there are now, yet we can see after the fact that investing into bitcoin ended up paying off quite well including that the more aggressively anyone invested into bitcoin (without overdoing it) then the better the payoff. 

Personally, I think that similar kinds of underlying principles continue to exist in regards to the more aggressive anyone invest into bitcoin (without over doing it) the likely better will be the future payoffs, 4-10 years or longer down the road.

It is also likely the slope of the upward curve is not going to be as steep into the next 10 years as it had been in the past 10 years, yet these days, the downside risk of the next 10 years seems to be less extreme, too.  When governments and large financial institutions are jumping onboard, it becomes harder to reverse courses... .not impossible to reverse but there is a certain value in the Lindy Effects that are created with bitcoin being in existence longer and seeming to ongoingly becoming stronger and stronger and stronger.

Same way most people who recently began investing are wishing they started 10 years ago is the same way people who are still procrastinating now would wish they started earlier too in 10 years upwards, if you take a look at the figures you'll see that it's still earliy compared to what we all hope it would be like in the next time years, if they picture bitcoin at $1m or above in 10 years from now then the investor who started recently would stop wishing they invested in the past but take their current investment seriously.

 You'll hear people say it's not too late and they're right afterall cause if one could start now an hold till 10 years time when bitcoin probably gets past $1m then they won't even feel they missed the opportunity earlier investors of about 2011 to 2020 had cause they too would've made lots of profits in 10 years from now whether they're very aggressive with their investment or not.

I completely agree with you. Most people think that the value will DIP and then they will buy. I think the value that Bitcoin has now is in the DIP end.. because it doesn't seem like it will drop any further. Bitcoin may reach a price around 150k in the next 4 to 5 months. Those who start investing then will think that if they had started 4 months ago, they would have definitely made more profit. Actually, it's true that you have to think about a lot of things before making a decision. but if he will think that he will invest if the price of Bitcoin drops, they will not be able to continue investing for 4 to 10 years according to the DCA method. When the price increases significantly, they will sell their BTC. But if you invest patiently for 10 years or so, the profit would be much higher. Investing in BTC using the DCA method is much more profitable than any other investment. Now, more important than how much money he starts investing with or how much BTC he buys and starts HODLing is how early he decides to start investing in BTC and how long he will continue investing for. I think that every moment is the right time to invest in Bitcoin. As the days pass, the more profits we will lose.

I agree with you buddy, the way Bitcoin is moving I am also having this thought that it may not go below $100k because it is far above that price now but who knows, Bitcoin is a very volatile asset so it is possible for it to go below $100k and it is also possible for it not to go below because volatility doesn't just mean Dip alone but uptrend too. Bitcoin hitting $150k in the next 4-5 months seems possible because of the potential but I think it look somehow like over speculation or over hype but like I said it is possible and it is even possible for Bitcoin to cross that price but it would make more sense if we are investing and not just speculating.

No mate, this is not about excessive speculation. Many of us cannot settle with reality because we lack confidence and we prefer to think negatively. Yes, the price of Bitcoin may experience a lot of dumping and oppositely. If you think negatively it may reach the $100k level. If this happens then you should consider it as another opportunity for you to buy in large quantities. But the pattern of Bitcoin is to buy regularly for two or more cycles of DCA method of accumulation. No matter how Bitcoin price levels affect you you should have a plan to buy regardless of the price and if you do not want to believe in excessive speculation, you should continue to strive to increase your Bitcoin holdings.

You may be right but being positive is different from excessive speculation when you are over speculating you are giving yourself hope but it will be discomforting after giving yourself hope and the price of Bitcoin didn't get to the speculated price. In as much as it is good to be positive we should know how to be positive about something so we don't get discourage when something went wrong. Buying regardless have always been the best way to go about Bitcoin and instead of me to be speculating about Bitcoin I would rather look for a way to increase my holding.

[Tungbulu]

There are likely some members who are trolls or perhaps PsyOps.. so they are not being genuine. .and sure there are some who plagiarize and use bots to write their posts,  and so sometimes it can be difficult to know if someone is actually being genuine or if he is not.

Those folks who use bots or other tools to write their posts here or just trolling around for reasons best known to them, without actually genuinely engaging or comprehending with the contents and knowledge of this thread (or any other thread are indeed just hurting themselves, because by refusing to take out their time to grasp the concepts, ideas and knowledge being discussed here, they'll definitely end up applying misguided and flawed strategies, thereby leading to making several costly mistakes in their finances. Knowledge is power but entirely powerless when it's not well acknowledged. It's one thing to seek knowledge, help and guidance but entirely another thing to want to bypass the whole learning process altogether. The consequences of such actions will entirely be their own responsibility alone, considering the fact that every individual should take ownership of their financial decisions and education.

[Barikui1]

You may be right but being positive is different from excessive speculation when you are over speculating you are giving yourself hope but it will be discomforting after giving yourself hope and the price of Bitcoin didn't get to the speculated price. In as much as it is good to be positive we should know how to be positive about something so we don't get discourage when something went wrong. Buying regardless have always been the best way to go about Bitcoin and instead of me to be speculating about Bitcoin I would rather look for a way to increase my holding.

You are actually right here no doubt, because one major problem most Bitcoin investors have is too much expectation, and it's sad to say this that if things doesn't goes as planned, they will feel really bad for themselves, that's why I believe that in as much as we are accumulating Bitcoin and trying to accumulate a very huge stash of it, we should have it at the back of our minds that nothing is promised in this life, anything can happen in the future that may warrant our Bitcoin investment not to go as planned, so going all in is dangerous, not just the financial aspect, but also the expectations and emotional aspect is very bad and dangerous to our well being.
So invest what you can afford to lose, either financially or emotionally.

[Kagaru]

Anyone who understand the concept of bitcoin investment will never be tempted to sell his holdings whenever there's a massive increase in the price of bitcoin. Even if they will be tempted to sell due to one or two reasons but not to the extent of selling all thier bitcoin investment, As a bitcoin investor is advised to sell some portion of your holdings and then allow it to compound upon itself or keep accumulating more bitcoin to enable you fill the missing space rather than selling all your holdings and start fucking around or looking for a way to start building back your bitcoin portfolio, because the price might get to a certain point where you will be thinking on where to start from and this can probably make you lose interest in bitcoin investment.

For some persons they might actually sell the entire bitcoin for a particular reason, which I'm not holding sway for them, the reasons can be for health sake or for other contingencies that they may face, this is the reason why we are saying every investor in Bitcoin should have discretionary funds and emergency funds that can help absorb some of their immediate needs, because suppose you have all of this funds put together, I don't see any reason why anyone should sell their entire portfolio because of a sudden price increase and start coming back to start building another portfolio, except if the individual doesn't understand the core concept of holding or they just want to play around Bitcoin without being futuristic with their plans, which for me is a red flag.

I believe that this is the part that is overlooked by many of the new investors. There is a short term inclination in selling everything because the price is pumping. When it comes to Bitcoins, and you reckon that you have any competence of what Bitcoin is all about, then it is only rational to take out what you require leaving the rest to multiply. It is important to have the rainy day savings as you will not need to dip into your other investments when life deals a blow. The entire sense is that you should give time and scarcity to yourself. Individuals who continue to jump in and out are left with regrets most of the time. The difference between the smart ones and the others is holding with purpose and planning.

[Stormisover]

The key I believe lies within finding a balance based on the circumstances and position of the individual and their financial stability. I see that you also emphasized on the importance of having a discretionary income to invest in Bitcoin, rather than using money meant for other expenses, which would seem more like trading or gambling, and I see a lot of sense in what you've said, because if an investor forfeits his expenses and uses the money to invest in Bitcoin, it might later cause him some financial strain, and maybe even lead to using money from your investment to foot those bills/expenses.

Sometimes it can take a bit of time to put good systems and practices in place, and in the very beginning a guy might not even realize what is the difference between trading and investing, and even if he hears that others believe that bitcoin is a 4-10 year or longer investment, the idea might not sink in with him personally, so he might not actually understand it, even though he still might start out by investing into bitcoin with a shorter than 4 year timeline... but then as he learns more about bitcoin, he may well come to understand and accept that bitcoin investing is 4 years minimum for any of his new investments into it... and not a shorter timeline, so his ideas may well change as he better gets to know bitcoin and some of the ways that bitcoin is a relatively unique asset.

Yes expecialy the newbies who might have spent less than 1 to 4 months here. We have also been on that situation and needed a lot of conviction for it to sink into our head but as time goes it becomes part of us. And I believe why people finds it hard to understand the concept of 4-10 years or more, is because they are often stocked to the  orientation of other people about Bitcoin investment and trading outside forum. A person who understands Bitcoin outside forum will usually have a different view about Bitcoin investment and trading but with the help of collective ideas from different people expecialy from thread like this  will shape a person into another dimension of knowledge except such person is bent on following his own ideas. And I bet such person will never learn.

There are lots of people that has stay longer in this forum but are still struggling with that conviction of understanding the difference between trading and investing don't forget that there are those who are so much entitled to their own ideas and we still have them here, it is also possible that someone outside the forum can have a better understanding and conviction than some people here, it is personal to make difference of ideas, to some it will take time while to some it will never happen and don't also forget that the ideas are not to be forced on any one, people are allow to make choices and face consequences.

[yixichloro2xx]

You may be right but being positive is different from excessive speculation when you are over speculating you are giving yourself hope but it will be discomforting after giving yourself hope and the price of Bitcoin didn't get to the speculated price. In as much as it is good to be positive we should know how to be positive about something so we don't get discourage when something went wrong. Buying regardless have always been the best way to go about Bitcoin and instead of me to be speculating about Bitcoin I would rather look for a way to increase my holding.

You are actually right here no doubt, because one major problem most Bitcoin investors have is too much expectation, and it's sad to say this that if things doesn't goes as planned, they will feel really bad for themselves, that's why I believe that in as much as we are accumulating Bitcoin and trying to accumulate a very huge stash of it, we should have it at the back of our minds that nothing is promised in this life, anything can happen in the future that may warrant our Bitcoin investment not to go as planned, so going all in is dangerous, not just the financial aspect, but also the expectations and emotional aspect is very bad and dangerous to our well being.
So invest what you can afford to lose, either financially or emotionally.

One of the most overlooked aspects of Bitcoin investing isn't just the financial side, it's the emotional resilience needed to survive the journey. Many people set sky high expectations, and when reality doesn't move in sync with their timelines, it leads to frustration, panic, or even emotional burnout.

Bitcoin rewards conviction, but conviction doesn't mean blind hope, it means understanding the game you are playing. You are  right, nothing in life is guaranteed. That’s why a measured, balanced approach one that considers not just your capital, but also your emotional bandwidth is crucial.

Going all in might sound bold, but in reality, it often stems from impatience or desperation. And when the market turns against you as it often will..it’s not just your wallet that takes a hit, it’s your mental clarity and peace of mind.

That is why the golden rule remains, only invest what you can afford to lose not just in money, but in expectations. It’s better to grow slowly and sleep well than to risk everything and live in anxiety....Sustainable investing isn't just about returns,  it's about staying in the game long enough to see the returns.

[Tonimez]

You may be right but being positive is different from excessive speculation when you are over speculating you are giving yourself hope but it will be discomforting after giving yourself hope and the price of Bitcoin didn't get to the speculated price. In as much as it is good to be positive we should know how to be positive about something so we don't get discourage when something went wrong. Buying regardless have always been the best way to go about Bitcoin and instead of me to be speculating about Bitcoin I would rather look for a way to increase my holding.

You are actually right here no doubt, because one major problem most Bitcoin investors have is too much expectation, and it's sad to say this that if things doesn't goes as planned, they will feel really bad for themselves, that's why I believe that in as much as we are accumulating Bitcoin and trying to accumulate a very huge stash of it, we should have it at the back of our minds that nothing is promised in this life, anything can happen in the future that may warrant our Bitcoin investment not to go as planned, so going all in is dangerous, not just the financial aspect, but also the expectations and emotional aspect is very bad and dangerous to our well being.
So invest what you can afford to lose, either financially or emotionally.

One of the most overlooked aspects of Bitcoin investing isn't just the financial side, it's the emotional resilience needed to survive the journey. Many people set sky high expectations, and when reality doesn't move in sync with their timelines, it leads to frustration, panic, or even emotional burnout.

Bitcoin rewards conviction, but conviction doesn't mean blind hope, it means understanding the game you are playing. You are  right, nothing in life is guaranteed. That’s why a measured, balanced approach one that considers not just your capital, but also your emotional bandwidth is crucial.

Going all in might sound bold, but in reality, it often stems from impatience or desperation. And when the market turns against you as it often will..it’s not just your wallet that takes a hit, it’s your mental clarity and peace of mind.

That is why the golden rule remains, only invest what you can afford to lose not just in money, but in expectations. It’s better to grow slowly and sleep well than to risk everything and live in anxiety....Sustainable investing isn't just about returns,  it's about staying in the game long enough to see the returns.

You were right when you tried to analyse the emotional requirements and involvement in long-term holding of your acquired bitcoin.  Every successful bitcoin journey has survived a whole lot of emotional bankruptcy and resilience and that's human. What matters is in being absolute about not selling off no matter the market trend. This is where investing with discretionary income comes in and that's the surest way of managing your emotional health.

However I disagree with you, even though conditionally when you talk about investing what you can afford to loose. This notion contradicts your initial belief in cultivating an emotional strength to hold your bitcoin for long. It however tends to tilt in line with the Bitcoin Traders anthem, which is investing only what you can afford to loose. If the goal is a long term holding, then to a large extent, even though it's not absolute, in an ideal bitcoin certain, then such belief is not valuable among the bitcoin investors.

Every bitcoin panic sales comes from the mind. So if someone is able to control his mind and learn to forget his bitcoin stash, so long as he maintains his emergency funds tightly, then every possible bitcoin has a larger potential to give a good reward afterwards.

[Bluedrem]

Sometimes it can take a bit of time to put good systems and practices in place, and in the very beginning a guy might not even realize what is the difference between trading and investing, and even if he hears that others believe that bitcoin is a 4-10 year or longer investment, the idea might not sink in with him personally, so he might not actually understand it, even though he still might start out by investing into bitcoin with a shorter than 4 year timeline... but then as he learns more about bitcoin, he may well come to understand and accept that bitcoin investing is 4 years minimum for any of his new investments into it... and not a shorter timeline, so his ideas may well change as he better gets to know bitcoin and some of the ways that bitcoin is a relatively unique asset.

JJG Sir, I think those who want to invest with 100% success in investment have never actually been investors.
My advice for those who want to invest in Bitcoin is this.

If a person thinks too much about profit and loss and other things before investing in Bitcoin, I don't think he will be able to invest in Bitcoin very easily.
Starting every thing is the most difficult. For example, if you want to move a fixed thing, you have to apply more force first, later you can change the place of the thing with less force.
The same thing is true in investing in Bitcoin, if you only have an idea of how Bitcoin works, then you can start investing in Bitcoin. You don't need to think about how many years to start and what the price will be when you sell it.
Along with investing in Bitcoin, you will get the opportunity to think about your Bitcoin.

If you are a good investor, then after a few days of investment, you will definitely understand how long you should actually save it.

Many people say that if the price of Bitcoin is x, they will sell it, if the investment year is y, they will sell it.
My question to them is why should you sell one if you don't need the money at that time.
Can you find a better investment than Bitcoin?
Who will give your money more security than Bitcoin?
Is there anything better than Bitcoin that will protect your money from inflation.

So why do you want to lose your Bitcoins at your unnecessary moment?

In terms of investment, you just prepare yourself firmly in this way that I will try to protect my Bitcoin collection with the maximum.
No need to think so much about when to sell and at what price to sell.

In terms of Bitcoin investment, you are an ant, and keep saving like an ant. "Success is yours"