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February 22, 2025, 06:13:13 AM
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They have absolutely nothing to gain by qualifying for the champions league next season, I don't think we should hope for a miracle. Moreover, it is still not clear whether he will be in charge of the club next season, because rumours of a possible change of coach have started to circulate. Besides, success in the Europa League can hardly be called a success, they play against teams that are already their equals, because MU are not the same anymore
Manchester United coach is going nowhere. The owners of the club if observant must have seen by now that it is not coaching problems. Amorim got the job also at a very difficult time for any coach. For any team to get better, they will first be very bad, this is the position Manchester United are in. Instead of Manchester United to do away with the new coach they've just gotten I believe that they will invest more in trying to get new players to the club, players that will be carefully selected by the new coach to join in the rebuilding process of this great club.
I agree with you. The fact is that, the players are the problem of several defeats and not Amorim. When Ten Hag was coach, he was the cause of the poor performance of the team, because he bought most of the players in the club. If Amorim leaves, the problem will still be there. Offloading some players and bring in new ones will solve the problem.

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February 22, 2025, 09:48:44 AM
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Well, if you look at this chart, could the final be Lazio vs Bilbao? Or will there be another surprise? Like Fenerbache in the Final? This will be quite difficult to predict.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGVb-AaIir8/?img_index=2

When I look at this image, I also see a finale between Lazio and Athletic Bilbao. I'm not just saying it because of they finished the league phase as the 1st and 2nd. They really deserve it as they play an impressive football. They aren't playing like Manchester United or Tottenham no matter they finished that phase right behind the first 2 teams. Athletic Bilbao will be tested by a tough challenge first though. They drew Roma which did quite well against Porto earlier.  Wink

About seeing a surprising team like Fenerbahçe in the finale, it isn't impossible. Especially while Mourinho is managing. He is good at carrying a team to the finale in the Europa League.  Grin  But for now I don't know whether they can beat any of Roma - Athletic Bilbao.

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February 22, 2025, 10:17:05 AM
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Interesting fixture last night but a horrible and emotional night for Galatasaray supporters as their team fail to qualify past the playoffs of the European league after trailing by a 4:1 defeat in the first leg they would have wished to turn things around in the second leg but only could get. 2:2 draw which eliminates them from the tournament marking the end of their quest for European trophy this season.
I don't see why Galatasaray fans will be emotional, because they have lost it from the first leg. That was when they should have known that their team will not qualify, because they don't have the quality to score five goals without AZ clapping back any. Technically, Galatasaray cannot win AZ because they ended the match in a draw yesterday in Turkey.

After the poor performance in the first match, it was almost impossible for them to advance to the next round even if they won this match. Galatasaray knew this and as a result they were eliminated from the tournament.
If you lose a match by conceding 4 goals, you don't have much of a chance in the return match. In fact, what everyone expected happened, Galatasaray, despite having a good squad, could not perform well enough to go higher in this league and said goodbye to the tournament

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February 22, 2025, 10:57:49 AM
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Well, if you look at this chart, could the final be Lazio vs Bilbao? Or will there be another surprise? Like Fenerbache in the Final? This will be quite difficult to predict.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGVb-AaIir8/?img_index=2

When I look at this image, I also see a finale between Lazio and Athletic Bilbao. I'm not just saying it because of they finished the league phase as the 1st and 2nd. They really deserve it as they play an impressive football. They aren't playing like Manchester United or Tottenham no matter they finished that phase right behind the first 2 teams. Athletic Bilbao will be tested by a tough challenge first though. They drew Roma which did quite well against Porto earlier.  Wink

About seeing a surprising team like Fenerbahçe in the finale, it isn't impossible. Especially while Mourinho is managing. He is good at carrying a team to the finale in the Europa League.  Grin  But for now I don't know whether they can beat any of Roma - Athletic Bilbao.

I think that every team has an equal chance starting from the quarter finals because they played against many teams until the quarter finals and all of them are close in strength. We see that favorites do not always make it to the finals and being a favorite in a match makes the team complacent. I am sure that we will watch very competitive matches and every team will show more than their normal performance to win the cup.

Mourinho prepares the team very well in the cup matches and is the coach who has eliminated the most teams in the two-round matches together with Ancelotti. He will want to improve this statistic and he has a good squad. Fenerbahçe can be the surprise team of the cup and if they make it through the round I think they have the power to eliminate whoever comes from Roma and Athletic Bilbao.

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February 22, 2025, 11:00:15 AM
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I think Gilloise was wrong in the Ajax U.S. Gilloise match.
Goalkeeper Pasveer made two penalties, but the referee did not see these penalties and VAR did not step in and warn him. He uncontrollably interferes with his opponent with his hand both during the normal time of the match and in the extra time. He hits his opponent because he can't time it. I think it was a clear penalty, but I don't know what Halam thought and didn't give it.
U.S. Gilloise was the superior side in the match, but they conceded a goal in extra time and bid farewell to the tournament.
Dutch teams, except Twente, continue to win the cups without any loss.
Dutch football is on the rise.
Ajax football team won the match against Royale Union Saint-Gilloise football team and that was an interesting match because both teams did very well in this match and gave excellent effort to win this match but Ajax team won the match in the end. Royale Union Saint-Gilloise team did 2 goals in this match and Mac Allister was a person who did goal at the start of game and after this we saw gap of 12 minutes and after one more player did goal at 28 minutes of the match and now he did goal at penalty.  Ajax team could do 1 goal in this match and that goal was at 93 minutes . At the end, Ajax team aggregate was 3 because they won many penalties and luck was with them . That match was organized in the Johan Cruijff ArenA and possession percentage of Royale Union Saint-Gilloise team was brilliant and their  passes were also almost double to the opponent team .

 
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February 22, 2025, 11:01:13 AM
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After the poor performance in the first match, it was almost impossible for them to advance to the next round even if they won this match. Galatasaray knew this and as a result they were eliminated from the tournament.
If you lose a match by conceding 4 goals, you don't have much of a chance in the return match. In fact, what everyone expected happened, Galatasaray, despite having a good squad, could not perform well enough to go higher in this league and said goodbye to the tournament
Conceding four goals made things even more difficult because Galatasaray themselves did not show themselves as one of the title contenders in the Europa League. Even in the second leg before the match started I was not at all sure Galatasaray could catch up from a four-goal deficit because even though the opponent they faced was much weaker, their game was much more solid. Galatasaray's mistake was not playing well in the first leg and that is why they were eliminated from the Europa League earlier than expected because they should have been much easier to beat a much weaker team.

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February 22, 2025, 11:14:56 AM
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Galatasaray's squad was quite strong. Talented players like Osimhen and Icardi were in Galatasaray's squad. I considered Galatasaray to be the favorite to win the Europa League. But Galatasaray's performance against AZ Alkmaar was very poor.
Yes, they failed because in the first leg alone they were already 4-1 behind on aggregate, and one of the reasons might be because of Osimhen's absence in that match. Yes, Galatasaray's performance should not have been that weak. However, it is undeniable that Az Alkmaar's performance was also very good at that time.

Well, if you look at this chart, could the final be Lazio vs Bilbao? Or will there be another surprise? Like Fenerbache in the Final? This will be quite difficult to predict.

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One could see Lazio against Bilbao as the safe bet. But this is the Europa League, where "favorite" means quite nothing! Bilbao is playing as a team possessed, and they have the dream scenario with the final at San Mamés. Lazio, Sure, they ranked highest in the league phase, but they have dropped seven Serie A games (not precisely "unbeatable" material). Fenerbahçe, THAT's a wildcard. Mourinho thrives in knockout football. Should he drag them to the last, the scene will be absolute chaos. Not to be overlooked, though, Eintracht Frankfurt won in 2022 and sits third in the Bundesliga; Ekitike is on fire

Surprises? This is Europa League. Prepare for something crazy. Man United may make it to the final then bottling it, Ajax perhaps transforms into prime 2019 out of nowhere, or AZ Alkmaar just slipping through while nobody is looking

 
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February 22, 2025, 11:49:41 AM
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After the poor performance in the first match, it was almost impossible for them to advance to the next round even if they won this match. Galatasaray knew this and as a result they were eliminated from the tournament.
If you lose a match by conceding 4 goals, you don't have much of a chance in the return match. In fact, what everyone expected happened, Galatasaray, despite having a good squad, could not perform well enough to go higher in this league and said goodbye to the tournament
Conceding four goals made things even more difficult because Galatasaray themselves did not show themselves as one of the title contenders in the Europa League. Even in the second leg before the match started I was not at all sure Galatasaray could catch up from a four-goal deficit because even though the opponent they faced was much weaker, their game was much more solid. Galatasaray's mistake was not playing well in the first leg and that is why they were eliminated from the Europa League earlier than expected because they should have been much easier to beat a much weaker team.
The main mistake of galatasaray was their inability to reduce the score in the previous first leg, thus making the second leg very difficult for them especially after AZ Alkmaar managed to score a goal at the home of galatasaray which made the galatasaray players even more pressured and lost their way, I think the mentality shown by galatasaray in the europa league is not worthy of making them qualify for the round of 16 this season.
The journey and determination of the teams that qualified for the round of 16 has been completed and the only team representing Turkey at the moment in european league is Fenerbache, so let's see how Mourinho can take Fenerbache to the final later, especially later he will have the opportunity to meet two teams he has coached previously, namely Roma and also Manchester United in the quarterfinals and semifinals.
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Why am I not surprised?  Grin  Galatasaray are out after another terrible performance. If you get this vulnerable in defense then a club like AZ which has quick players can take advantage of it easily.



Now let's evaluate who can make it to the Europa League title considering the results of the draw today.

Tottenham are still favoured the most by bookies indeed. But I feel like they won't even get past AZ. Even if they do they could get eliminated by one of Ajax, Frankfurt or Lazio before reaching the final.

The same goes for Manchester United. Even if they reach the semi finals, the potential competitor is Athletic Bilbao. No way they are going beyond that round.  Smiley  I think we'll have a Lazio - Athletic Bilbao finale and I'm going with the Spanish club for the winner.
It's a shame that Galatasaray has a pretty good squad up front but they don't have good strength at the back. So yes, they will still have difficulty winning and in the end they also have to accept the fact that they have been eliminated early from the European League this season.

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Regarding which team is the favorite to win the title this season in the European League, it will actually still be difficult for us to predict. And we also have to know that in reality many of the teams currently in the European League actually have quite serious inconsistencies in their domestic leagues. Examples include Man United and Tottenham itself. It's just that in the European League it seems that some teams actually show better strength than when they play in the Domestic League. But if we talk about a team that looks better, the answer can already be seen even from the standings in the European League in the previous round. Namely, Lazio and Bilbao are the ones who can most be expected to progress further in the European League this season. But every season we usually see an unexpected team succeed in advancing further here. For example, Atalanta last season.

 
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February 22, 2025, 12:05:44 PM
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One could see Lazio against Bilbao as the safe bet. But this is the Europa League, where "favorite" means quite nothing! Bilbao is playing as a team possessed, and they have the dream scenario with the final at San Mamés. Lazio, Sure, they ranked highest in the league phase, but they have dropped seven Serie A games (not precisely "unbeatable" material). Fenerbahçe, THAT's a wildcard. Mourinho thrives in knockout football. Should he drag them to the last, the scene will be absolute chaos. Not to be overlooked, though, Eintracht Frankfurt won in 2022 and sits third in the Bundesliga; Ekitike is on fire

Surprises? This is Europa League. Prepare for something crazy. Man United may make it to the final then bottling it, Ajax perhaps transforms into prime 2019 out of nowhere, or AZ Alkmaar just slipping through while nobody is looking

There is no guarantee for any team around here indeed. Even the teams at top can shock us with unexpected results. I wouldn't get shocked in case Tottenham and Manchester United both say goodbye early though.  Tongue

Fenerbahçe is a good example there. Mourinho's ways might seem old for many people. To me as well to tell the truth. But this guy is still really good in competitions like this. He already achieved an EL trophy with Manchester United once. He did it in a season they had problems in the PL. He barely missed the chance while managing Roma in the 22/23 season. He can actually push for it with Fenerbahçe too. The squad is much better after the recent transfers and En-Nesyri is having a really productive season. Let's see if we witness a surprise.  Smiley

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February 22, 2025, 12:09:02 PM
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It was a good match for F.Bahçe. Maybe the Rangers team might be thinking the same thing.
Previously, two teams had faced each other in the Champions League qualifying round and the winner of the round was F.Bahçe.
I haven't followed Rangers for a while so I don't know how they play football.
I see the scoreboard when they compete against Celtic but overall Celtic have a significant advantage.
Most of the other matches are early finals.
Maybe I don't give AZ Alkmaar a chance in the cup, but they are my favorite. They are a young team and they run hard. Their only mistake, unfortunately, is that they do not have a quality striker who can take the last shot.
They could have achieved a historic score like in their first match against Galatasaray yesterday.


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There is no guarantee for any team around here indeed. Even the teams at top can shock us with unexpected results. I wouldn't get shocked in case Tottenham and Manchester United both say goodbye early though.  Tongue

Fenerbahçe is a good example there. Mourinho's ways might seem old for many people. To me as well to tell the truth. But this guy is still really good in competitions like this. He already achieved an EL trophy with Manchester United once. He did it in a season they had problems in the PL. He barely missed the chance while managing Roma in the 22/23 season. He can actually push for it with Fenerbahçe too. The squad is much better after the recent transfers and En-Nesyri is having a really productive season. Let's see if we witness a surprise.  Smiley
Tottenham and Manchester United are currently in very poor form so of course it is not surprising if these two teams are eliminated and I am even sure that especially with the Europa League competition which is quite fierce I am pessimistic that Tottenham and Manchester United can advance further this season in the Europa League competition.

Jose Mourinho is a coach who has a good career in the Europa League even a few seasons ago he was quite successful with Roma even though he could not become a champion with the existing squad what Mourinho did received a lot of appreciation, so too for this season Jose Mourinho with Fenerbahçe of course I the Fenerbahçe team will be very much taken into account now because they are coached by Jose Mourinho.
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Manchester United already know that the Europa League is the only means they can come compete in a European competition next season. This might make Ruben Amorin's side put all efforts into lifting the Europa League.  We have also seen some clubs who were doing badly in their local league but ended up lifting European trophies.  Therefore,  we shouldn't write off the Ref Devils. For now, I don't know which club are the favourite to win this competition maybe it will become clearer after this round.

They have absolutely nothing to gain by qualifying for the champions league next season, I don't think we should hope for a miracle. Moreover, it is still not clear whether he will be in charge of the club next season, because rumours of a possible change of coach have started to circulate. Besides, success in the Europa League can hardly be called a success, they play against teams that are already their equals, because MU are not the same anymore

For Manchester United, it would be better to play in a lower UEFA competition than Champions League because they can't advance a lot there while here in Europa League, they might get a chance to win it. I don't think they will improve suddenly in the upcoming season unless serious changes were made and especially successful changes.
Now considering the actual version, Manchester United will have to go through Real Sociedad which is a good team that might be able to kick them. Another hard game will be played between Tottenham Hotspur and AZ Alkmaar. Otherwise Ajax - Frankfurt and Roma - Athletic Bilbao will be easy to predict at all!
Manchester United really haven't found their character, they are inconsistent even in their domestic league they are very chaotic they even almost lost against Everton lucky they could score a goal at the end of the second half. If you look at Man United's current performance it seems very difficult to compete in the European league. It is true, Man United's current hope is only in the European league by winning the Europa League trophy they can automatically qualify for the UCL league next season even though in the EPL they are below the top 10.

However, after seeing Man United's performance which has not improved the potential to win the Europa League is very impossible especially after seeing the results of the Europa League draw in the last 16 against Real Sociedad. If my prediction after seeing the results of the Europa League draw, in the right chart that will advance to the semifinals between Athletic Club and Real Sociedad who will each face Roma and Manchester United. While in the left chart the favorites and will advance to the semifinals are Eintracht and Lazio.

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Conceding four goals made things even more difficult because Galatasaray themselves did not show themselves as one of the title contenders in the Europa League. Even in the second leg before the match started I was not at all sure Galatasaray could catch up from a four-goal deficit because even though the opponent they faced was much weaker, their game was much more solid. Galatasaray's mistake was not playing well in the first leg and that is why they were eliminated from the Europa League earlier than expected because they should have been much easier to beat a much weaker team.
Catching up on goals is not an easy thing for a team, let alone being behind by 4 goals, so the best club like Galatasaray will be overwhelmed. The best players don't come from a solid team with lots of star players, but showing a good game is a certainty of winning the match.
The fact that Galatasaray will not be able to continue in the next match in the Europa League is that the defeat that should have won has been lost starting from the first half.

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February 22, 2025, 05:39:22 PM
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Yes, they failed because in the first leg alone they were already 4-1 behind on aggregate, and one of the reasons might be because of Osimhen's absence in that match. Yes, Galatasaray's performance should not have been that weak. However, it is undeniable that Az Alkmaar's performance was also very good at that time.

Well, if you look at this chart, could the final be Lazio vs Bilbao? Or will there be another surprise? Like Fenerbache in the Final? This will be quite difficult to predict.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGVb-AaIir8/?img_index=2
Alkmaar has actually give an above average performance since  the beginning of the europa and so they aren't even expected to do any less against a weak Galatasaray side they had no Osimhen on their team as at the time of play and then they didn't have a good defence to help them save the day. The other point I feel concerned about is the fixture about , the one between Manchester United and Real socidad, united has been in an inconsistent manner so I don't even trust them with this fixture and I'm actually struggling to stay optimistic about this.
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February 22, 2025, 07:31:37 PM
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Yes, they failed because in the first leg alone they were already 4-1 behind on aggregate, and one of the reasons might be because of Osimhen's absence in that match. Yes, Galatasaray's performance should not have been that weak. However, it is undeniable that Az Alkmaar's performance was also very good at that time.

Well, if you look at this chart, could the final be Lazio vs Bilbao? Or will there be another surprise? Like Fenerbache in the Final? This will be quite difficult to predict.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGVb-AaIir8/?img_index=2
Alkmaar has actually give an above average performance since  the beginning of the europa and so they aren't even expected to do any less against a weak Galatasaray side they had no Osimhen on their team as at the time of play and then they didn't have a good defence to help them save the day. The other point I feel concerned about is the fixture about , the one between Manchester United and Real socidad, united has been in an inconsistent manner so I don't even trust them with this fixture and I'm actually struggling to stay optimistic about this.
We believe too much if Osimhen absence in the first leg was the cause of Galatasaray's defeat, even though if we look at the existing statistics, they actually showed extraordinary aggressiveness in attacking, but the defensive line built by Alkmaar at that time was indeed very solid and made it difficult for Galatasaray to score, in my opinion it was the defense owned by Galatasaray who was too weak and often made mistakes in the first leg so made them concede 4 goals, in the second leg  when Osimhen played, he also did not show an extraordinary performance in my opinion, especially after Alkmaar was actually able to score the first goal in the second leg and made the aggregate goals even bigger, it has actually made the Galatasaray players lose motivation and enthusiasm including osimhen  which starting to look very frustrated.
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Manchester United really haven't found their character, they are inconsistent even in their domestic league they are very chaotic they even almost lost against Everton lucky they could score a goal at the end of the second half. If you look at Man United's current performance it seems very difficult to compete in the European league. It is true, Man United's current hope is only in the European league by winning the Europa League trophy they can automatically qualify for the UCL league next season even though in the EPL they are below the top 10.

However, after seeing Man United's performance which has not improved the potential to win the Europa League is very impossible especially after seeing the results of the Europa League draw in the last 16 against Real Sociedad. If my prediction after seeing the results of the Europa League draw, in the right chart that will advance to the semifinals between Athletic Club and Real Sociedad who will each face Roma and Manchester United. While in the left chart the favorites and will advance to the semifinals are Eintracht and Lazio.

As I often say, it will be difficult for United to qualify for the next phases. I'm not belittling Amorim's team, but looking at their performance and what the coach wants to implement. although Manchester United still has the opportunity to win this competition, the obstacles they have to go through are not easy. the problem is that United is currently in the development stage of the system and squad designed by Amorim, so far they have not found the right formula. even if we talk about the match against Everton in the Premier League, Manchester United had difficulty defeating them. even though Everton is currently not a strong team, they were able to take the lead first even though the final result of the match ended in a draw. if we talk about their opponent team, I have discussed it a few days ago regarding Manchester United and Real Sociedad. this match will also be a tough match if their performance remains like this. IMO, Amorim should do something with changes and not always force the system he wants to implement and develop. or, United can start it at the beginning of the new season and one example is Chelsea for example. by participating in only a few competitions, Chelsea can solidify Maresca's system and reshape the team's mentality as a whole. Thus, United will be able to compete much better in the following seasons.
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February 22, 2025, 08:20:39 PM
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Bilbao definitely seems like the easiest bet to win. I mean they are going to beat Roma now, should be able to easily do that, Roma has been terrible all season long, even with Ranieri they are still not good enough to beat Bilbao at all.

After that, they are going to play the winner of Fenerbahce Rangers, which they should be easily beating both no matter which one comes up, that should not be an issue at all, we are seeing how things could be different there. After that, the whole other side, while most believe United could win out of there, it doesn't which of the four teams, we should see Bilbao beat them all, looks like all four teams there are worse than Bilbao. So when you look at it on the paper, I do not see any team that could posses any threat to Bilbao all the way until the finals.

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February 22, 2025, 08:30:24 PM
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Well, if you look at this chart, could the final be Lazio vs Bilbao? Or will there be another surprise? Like Fenerbache in the Final? This will be quite difficult to predict.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGVb-AaIir8/?img_index=2
It is difficult to determine who will enter the final round later because in this UEL it is really difficult to predict even AZ can become the title holder if the surprise happens. It's just that at this time we can speculate from the results of previous performances. We can also speculate from the odds provided by bookmakers at this time,

  • Spurs odds @5
  • Lazio odds @7
  • Bilbao odds @7
  • Man United odds @7

From the odds, Lazio and Bilbao should be worthy to enter the final round. But honestly, I want to see Man United standing in the final round later. But all of this is just speculation. Because the odds also do not guarantee the final result.

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Catching up on goals is not an easy thing for a team, let alone being behind by 4 goals, so the best club like Galatasaray will be overwhelmed. The best players don't come from a solid team with lots of star players, but showing a good game is a certainty of winning the match.
The fact that Galatasaray will not be able to continue in the next match in the Europa League is that the defeat that should have won has been lost starting from the first half.

In the second match which took place at the RAMS Park stadium ended in a 2-2 draw. Appearing as the host in the match, Galatasaray did not make the Galatasaray players to be able to appear more confident, their mentality had been destroyed in the previous match which had to lose badly to AZ. Even in the second match, Galatasaray had to fall behind AZ first, and through a goal scored by Osimhen, Galatasaray was able to equalize to 1-1. However, the draw did not last long, the AZ players managed to restore their lead, and were behind by one goal in the second match plus the previous aggregate, with only a few minutes left in the match, this really put the Galatasaray players in a very depressed position, but no matter how hard they tried, defeat was still unavoidable, Galatasaray was only able to add one goal before the match ended.

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