RarityCheck VIBGYOR gilded #12 swept yesterday.

[MoparMiningLLC]

good luck reading the shit ass font/print job. =( just because they havent been swiped doesn't mean your going to be able to read them to be able to swipe them yourself sad to say.  (i hope you can read them bud)

Holy crap, you are not kidding..  I am on my 7th attempt and still no luck.

you figure it out yet? i had to ask Mopar to help me and he was able to recover 2 coins funds after i could not read the keys, if you cant figure it out and your at your wits end, maybe reach out to him. (and its always nice to leave him a tip if he pull off recovering your funds, even if he says he doesn't want one lol imo) He is here for the community  thank you Mopar !

always happy to help - I am always here to help the community.

do you mind if I share the images of your terrible keys? NVM I see you posted them.

here you go :  https://ibb.co/2Fg4Tm5

you shared the nice one too - the other one was a bit more blurry? not sure if that is the right word - but the letters were bleeding into one another.

[HouseOfBAMF]

The owners of some of the swept coins below that are known from original sales thread...

#11 - Mortare
#13 - HouseOfBAMF
#15 - hotdog7
#17 - Edits

I can assure you that I still have my coin and it is NOT peeled. I’ll post a photo later today

[raghavsood]

I have been looking at the transaction flows as well - while a full analysis will take a few more days, the majority of the funds that ended up in 113Z6geivgG7WAhHowP6n5fQBYzuTFZmxU do not appear to be from collectibles.

The outputs I've checked so far seem to be overwhelmingly 1-2+ years old, and ultimately originate from p2pkh addresses funded through a very broad variety of sources (exchanges, regular wallets, p2sh wallets, multisig, single sig, etc)

I would float the possibility at this time that raritycheck may have used some key generation method that was backdoored, and everyone who used that is being swept right now.

[PreciousMetapsICT]

What I can say and speak on is that I wish he kept a copy of his keys cuz I can’t decipher SHIT from his fucking lost coin series. Holy fuck!! Use some better ink, larger letters… anything cuz this btc is probably lost. Even using a 10x magnifying glass.

Total horseshit

[PreciousMetapsICT]

Pretty fucking terrible to have to peel a coin. It’s even worse when you peel and can’t redeem

[mortare]

The owners of some of the swept coins below that are known from original sales thread...

#11 - Mortare
#13 - HouseOfBAMF
#15 - hotdog7
#17 - Edits

My coins are in the bank safe unpeeled.
Just checked and my 0.01 btc RarityCheck VIBGYOR 2022 coin orange #011/140 has been swepped ...  1AMPtQJ3ajQBjZ1JdrtnhBukFgq7MW8749
My 0.001 btc 17rdnQEMe1fj7WX8jPnPrRkTYBYnRQYmg7 seems alright for now...
Here we go again ffs

[raghavsood]

There is at least one more batch of transactions in/around the same block that exhibit the same behaviour.

The funds from the VIBGYOR coins were stole in two txs (so far): 5bef768068c0604ee3dc3dd1fa1b1abef946ea474952a0c471d2bf190dd1368f and 5f3720dd75ea36efed2bffd7bc136dc8556e600d6cc94f2a82c38880e0d02b64, both mined in block 855689.

Subsequently, the outputs from those two addresses were consolidated in another transaction (8bcb78031b29a563268170d22c002a12c6ff4d59996095bbdb792c7607f80bd0) into 113Z6geivgG7WAhHowP6n5fQBYzuTFZmxU.

In block 855689, there are also transactions like 61772db434ea944f77099e4fcc85656eebc58898e02b2716c0b02f9c78a8a7ae and some others, which exhibit the same behaviour: Consolidate BTC from P2PKH addresses a few years old into a P2WPKH, then further consolidate them into a new P2PKH address where the funds sit idle. The transaction sizing and amounts are all in the same ballpark. In the second case, the funds are sent to 16U5Rwm6FMDNGwE7CbFaKV2xQCKzdmqK9Q.

Once again, I can't find any meaningful link to collectibles for the majority of the outputs consumed in these two batches (although there are quite a few 0.01 BTC inputs that I don't have linked to any collectible series). If there is a wallet backdoor somewhere, it has been active for several years - there are outputs dating back to 2019 (there might be older ones, I haven't checked everything yet) that have been consolidated in these batches.

I don't see any news of a known wallet compromise in recent times.

It's getting late for me, so I will continue with this in later once I'm more awake.

[tldr-hodl]

IMHO I would hazard a guess that if this was some specific tool (key gen) issue, there would be much more screaming about this on Twitter/forum/elsewhere...

Btw. what exactly does it mean "Last Active: (Recently)"?

[ZipReg]

I am very sorry to hear this has happened guys

Hate to say it but from my first interaction with rarity I felt they were an untrustworthy douchebag, so much so that I denied them access into my time traveler loaded canvas contest.

I know that the walletgenerator.net utility was compromised back around 2019 and was found to be relaying addresses that were generated. This should be easy to discover because in the browser details it will show the url call to the ip it is trying to send the generated addresses to. My two satoshis, I don't believe they are compromised from an outside entity.

[MoparMiningLLC]

this is why you use an offline airgapped key generation process.

What I can say and speak on is that I wish he kept a copy of his keys cuz I can’t decipher SHIT from his fucking lost coin series. Holy fuck!! Use some better ink, larger letters… anything cuz this btc is probably lost. Even using a 10x magnifying glass.

Total horseshit

I was able to help rsincognito and deciphered both pks that he sent me - willing to help anyone who needs it at zero cost. you can tip if you want but my motivation is to get the bitcoin to the buyers not back to the maker.

[ChiBitCTy]

The utter shitty print job of private keys and font choice is ridiculous, it’s almost as if he created them to never be redeemed, I’m sitting in a dark room with two different magnifying glasses trying to decipher this bullshit. I’m so glad I’m running into this situation now and not when 1 btc is worth million dollars. This is pretty fucked.

This is what Sol Noctis did with their Bull coins. The redemption process is absolutely ridiculous. It’s in such a way that there’s no other reason than them not wanting people to redeem them. Oh and yeah..one coin was swept and then funded again, a coin owned by someone who came forward with the UNPEELED coin which was sent to a seasoned collector who verified it was not peeled and then was sent to the company who produced the coins ..where no explanation was ever given, and in fact they were extremely shady about the whole thing.

@DaveF - great recommendations , I concur entirely.

RCs most recent ANN thread being locked troubles me, and if you read through the entire thread, lot of head scratching.

Also kinda interesting how he’s trying to get the addresses for all the MrHodl silver “chip” coins..from what I can tell he doesn’t own any of them but keeps requesting a list .. I dunno, just odd to me.

IMHO I would hazard a guess that if this was some specific tool (key gen) issue, there would be much more screaming about this on Twitter/forum/elsewhere...

Btw. what exactly does it mean "Last Active: (Recently)"?

I believe that means they were logged in the last 24 hours. Maybe Cyrus or a mod can chime in on this , but pretty sure that’s the case.

The forum BIP tool that I THINK @Vod created tells you how long ago someone was active more specifically, like to the hour , I think ..gunna have to double check that here after I hit send on this, will update ..

[aoluain]

this is why you use an offline airgapped key generation process.

What I can say and speak on is that I wish he kept a copy of his keys cuz I can’t decipher SHIT from his fucking lost coin series. Holy fuck!! Use some better ink, larger letters… anything cuz this btc is probably lost. Even using a 10x magnifying glass.

Total horseshit

I was able to help rsincognito and deciphered both pks that he sent me - willing to help anyone who needs it at zero cost. you can tip if you want but my motivation is to get the bitcoin to the buyers not back to the maker.

Going forward any new maker offering loaded collectibles needs to be quizzed
on how they are creating keys etc.

Anyone using a lazy route software key gen tool needs to be given a wide berth.

Pretty fucking terrible to have to peel a coin. It’s even worse when you peel and can’t redeem

I've never peeled a coin, never even seen an image of what is contained there
after peeling.

Couple of limitations coming to light, key creation and printing, that sample
posted above is pretty shocking..

The problem is that creators know that the chances of their coins being peeled
a d redeemed is slim so quality has an opportunity to be poor ^{generally speaking}

[2stout]

I will be redeeming the VIBGYOR set 88, so if you see that, it is me.

[gpfrag]

The utter shitty print job of private keys and font choice is ridiculous, it’s almost as if he created them to never be redeemed, I’m sitting in a dark room with two different magnifying glasses trying to decipher this bullshit. I’m so glad I’m running into this situation now and not when 1 btc is worth million dollars. This is pretty fucked.

Also kinda interesting how he’s trying to get the addresses for all the MrHodl silver “chip” coins..from what I can tell he doesn’t own any of them but keeps requesting a list .. I dunno, just odd to me.

This is concerning as RC has offered MrHodl items at auction.  I’ve in fact won 2 items.  One was lost in the mail and was refunded.  The other I received but there is an issue that needs to be resolved with correct PA and coin # as there is a discrepancy.  I reached out to MrHodl yesterday via his website and haven’t heard from him yet.  He might be able to shed some light here as well.

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=5491364.msg63915798#msg63915798

[Cryptogreatdane]

Just an observation.. if what i read is correct that coins swept were sold to forum members but the coins sold through stacks were not leads me to believe inside job. Looking to victimize easy targets but not involve a company like stacks with access to lawyers and money. Is this correct? And what country is rarity based out of?

[21MilBTC]

Just an observation.. if what i read is correct that coins swept were sold to forum members but the coins sold through stacks were not leads me to believe inside job. Looking to victimize easy targets but not involve a company like stacks with access to lawyers and money. Is this correct? And what country is rarity based out of?

This would be a very bad look for Stacks in my opinion...

 A lot of the stuff sold on Stacks is limited...

For example, the pink Miami note listed on sacks...There's only I think 11 made.....Same for a lot of the coins (There's only a limited amount made)......

If members coins are being targeted but the ones being sold on Stacks aren't.........Yeah....Bad Look....

Just my opinion...

[2stout]

Just an observation.. if what i read is correct that coins swept were sold to forum members but the coins sold through stacks were not leads me to believe inside job. Looking to victimize easy targets but not involve a company like stacks with access to lawyers and money. Is this correct? And what country is rarity based out of?

This would be a very bad look for Stacks in my opinion...

 A lot of the stuff sold on Stacks is limited...

For example, the pink Miami note listed on sacks...There's only I think 11 made.....Same for a lot of the coins (There's only a limited amount made)......

If members coins are being targeted but the ones being sold on Stacks aren't.........Yeah....Bad Look....

Just my opinion...

Based out of the UK.

[Suzuki Matt]

A ms70 too. Smh

[gpfrag]

Just an observation.. if what i read is correct that coins swept were sold to forum members but the coins sold through stacks were not leads me to believe inside job. Looking to victimize easy targets but not involve a company like stacks with access to lawyers and money. Is this correct? And what country is rarity based out of?

This would be a very bad look for Stacks in my opinion...

 A lot of the stuff sold on Stacks is limited...

For example, the pink Miami note listed on sacks...There's only I think 11 made.....Same for a lot of the coins (There's only a limited amount made)......

If members coins are being targeted but the ones being sold on Stacks aren't.........Yeah....Bad Look....

Just my opinion...

Based out of the UK.

Just in trading messages with RC prior; he’s about as British as French Fries are French.  Decent enough guy in correspondence, just doesn't type queen's english.

[Primo-bit]

Just an observation.. if what i read is correct that coins swept were sold to forum members but the coins sold through stacks were not leads me to believe inside job. Looking to victimize easy targets but not involve a company like stacks with access to lawyers and money. Is this correct? And what country is rarity based out of?

This would be a very bad look for Stacks in my opinion...

 A lot of the stuff sold on Stacks is limited...

For example, the pink Miami note listed on sacks...There's only I think 11 made.....Same for a lot of the coins (There's only a limited amount made)......

If members coins are being targeted but the ones being sold on Stacks aren't.........Yeah....Bad Look....

Just my opinion...

Based out of the UK.

Just in trading messages with RC prior; he’s about as British as French Fries are French. 

Maybe he comes from India.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14433322/officers