RarityCheck VIBGYOR gilded #12 swept yesterday.

[rsincognito]

I'm amazed at the speed of which notification and publishing of activity took place.

Is there a way to set up alerts for transactions/movement on personal public addresses so that you're instantly notified if something is happening with one of your coins?

I'd like to set something up so I get an alert on my phone jic.

Thanks

yes there is an app called crypto alerting, for your phone and they have a website, you can set it to send you a text , push notification and i even think a phone call if funds move from an address you upload into your account, here is the site.  https://cryptocurrencyalerting.com/
 if anyone has a reason not to use this site please let me know, i have had zero issues with it. ty

[raghavsood]

Hi everyone!

I'm new here and found this place after researching transaction 5f3720dd75ea36efed2bffd7bc136dc8556e600d6cc94f2a82c38880e0d02b64.

On a certain day (which I honestly don't remember), I accessed bitaddress.org to generate a wallet for my godson. I'm a tech person, so I took every precaution when accessing the site (Mac/Safari or Chrome), generating the document, and even when printing it. I chose to take my laptop to the printer and connected it via a USB cable (I've worked with printer drivers for years).

I had saved the address 1EXkmyQEtNL351Q9ovUsCvsDTYtx4hVgCf to check the balance using the BlueWallet app, to see how my godson's savings were doing. Tonight, when I accessed the website, I was shocked! The funds had been moved. I immediately spoke to my godson's father, who confirmed that the funds hadn't been moved by him and that the paper was safely stored in a vault, as I had given it to him.

I can't stop thinking about where I went wrong in this process.

Thank you for the datapoint.

If you're certain you used bitaddress and not walletgenerator, my sense is that both you and raritycheck ended up on fake sites of the respective generators, which were compromised.

If you generated any other wallets using this same method, I would suggest sweeping them immediately.

@raghavsood is this guys swiped coin being done by the same people that swiped the raritycheck coins?  im not as tech as you are. ty

Yes, it is the same actors - I'm working on a larger fund flow piece, and will share it once I'm done - there may be an avenue for folks who were directly stolen from to file some reports with platforms/law enforcement (although I doubt it would lead to a recovery, but not entirely impossible).

[raritycheck]

I still don't know how I had 8 of these coins and NONE of them were swept. I swept all 4 of the 0.01 btc denomination coins and left the other 4 coins that are loaded with 0.001 alone and they are still loaded,  weird.


edit:
Does anyone know how many of the "lost coin series"  0.001 btc coins are still loaded ?  ty

I've taken a look at my #12 (gilded and silver).

Bought them both in April 2023

Gilded was loaded October 2022 Before I bought  (Hacker Swept)
Silver was loaded  April 2023 When I bought        (I swept after the others were swept by hacker)

So this makes me to believe that maybe RC makes the keys when they are sold and changed key generator software/method from early 2023 (I think raghavsood has also mentioned it)
rsincognito you bought late 2023

I can also be completely wrong about this

Maybe RC can elaborate on that?

All keys were generated at once i.e. on the same day.

Address list was published from the day of coins announcement : https://crypto.raritycheck.com/vibgyor

It's possible some keys haven't been hacked with RNG attack or the backdoor.

Regards
Team RC

If all keys were generated in one session with the same tool, it is not possible that same keys are safe.

Every single existing VIBGYOR key should be considered unsafe, and every single loaded VIBGYOR coin should be peeled immediately.

The raritycheck team should be very, very clear in their messaging regarding this. Giving holders the impression that they might be safe if the funds haven't been swept yet is simply not an option.

How are we giving the message that the VIBGYOR coins might be safe?

[krogoth]

I'm amazed at the speed of which notification and publishing of activity took place.

Is there a way to set up alerts for transactions/movement on personal public addresses so that you're instantly notified if something is happening with one of your coins?

I'd like to set something up so I get an alert on my phone jic.

Thanks

yes there is an app called crypto alerting, for your phone and they have a website, you can set it to send you a text , push notification and i even think a phone call if funds move from an address you upload into your account, here is the site.  https://cryptocurrencyalerting.com/
 if anyone has a reason not to use this site please let me know, i have had zero issues with it. ty

   I have the app and it does alert me right away thru text with any changes in a BTC addy balance. So far so good

[raritycheck]

Maybe another member mentioned this already...But if I'm *RC* I'm turning a negative situation into a positive....

If I'm *RC* I'd design a different *New coin from scratch* and every person that purchased a VIBGYOR coin would now get one of the new designed coin for free....

Here's the kicker......The newly designed coin SHOULD NEVER GO ON SALE.....NEVER EVER......They should only go to the people who purchased a coin in this series...Now *RC* has actually created a new collectible for the people affected...Those who purchased funded get one funded...Those who purchased unfunded get one unfunded....What the people do with the coins once they get them...well that's up to them....

Probably a stupid idea on my part....I don't know....Anyways....it looks like everything the bloke can do he is doing...

Props to *RC* but I'm sure others on here may not see it that way....

We have been already refunding affected people.
Edit: We plan on adding new stickers for existing coins. We are thinking of taking someone else's help for private keys for VIBGYOR.

[krogothmanhattan]

  Below is a pic of a crystal clear private key that I swept as I mentioned in an earlier post...I deleted the last row to prevent anyone from tracing where the BTC went to once swept.

     

[raritycheck]

  Below is a pic of a crystal clear private key that I swept as I mentioned in an earlier post...I deleted the last row to prevent anyone from tracing where the BTC went to once swept.

     

Yes these are the Vigilante private keys. Thank you krogothmanhattan for sharing.

Only the Hole coin was tricky because of the shape of the paper. but VIBGYOR and Vigilante keys are easy to read.

But we are thinking about what to do with LCS v2 and remaining unsold VIBGYOR + anyone resending us + unsold LCS v1 coins.

[raghavsood]

How are we giving the message that the VIBGYOR coins might be safe?

The phrasing in orange could be construed to mean that some keys are safe. Please be careful and try to phrase things unambiguously for this case.

All keys were generated at once i.e. on the same day.

Address list was published from the day of coins announcement : https://crypto.raritycheck.com/vibgyor

It's possible some keys haven't been hacked with RNG attack or the backdoor for VIBGYOR series.

All LCS coin keys are created with bitaddress. So, please avoid panic.

Regards
Team RC

[raghavsood]

Yes these are the Vigilante private keys. Thank you krogothmanhattan for sharing.

Only the Hole coin was tricky because of the shape of the paper. but VIBGYOR and Vigilante keys are easy to read.

But we are thinking about what to do with LCS v2 and remaining unsold VIBGYOR + anyone resending us + unsold LCS v1 coins.

Honestly, for an immediately next step, you should do a buyer funded variants - get new holos with BF serials, and list out the coin serials that will be sold as buyer funded once you have consolidated the unsold inventory and returns.

I personally like the RC designs, as I'm sure many others do - the coins are good. I would just prefer to fund them myself with my own keys at this stage.

[MoparMiningLLC]

I have now seen the keys on 7 VIBGYOR coins - 5 were clear, 2 were difficult but not impossible to read and one of the two was worse than the other.


but as it currently stands - RarityCheck should not generate any more keys now or in the immediate future, and quite possibly never again.


do buyer funded and/or DIY

[raritycheck]

I have now seen the keys on 7 VIBGYOR coins - 5 were clear, 2 were difficult but not impossible to read and one of the two was worse than the other.


but as it currently stands - RarityCheck should not generate any more keys now or in the immediate future, and quite possibly never again.


do buyer funded and/or DIY

Yes, we selected a wrong software/site to generate Keys.
But never again seems too strong. Anyways, we are still deciding.

We'll make a call soon.

For now, please note that the only impacted series is the Orange in VIBGYOR.

We are deciding on how to move forward with rest of VIBGYOR series and series #2 for Vigilante and LCS.

[MoparMiningLLC]

I have now seen the keys on 7 VIBGYOR coins - 5 were clear, 2 were difficult but not impossible to read and one of the two was worse than the other.


but as it currently stands - RarityCheck should not generate any more keys now or in the immediate future, and quite possibly never again.


do buyer funded and/or DIY

Yes, we selected a wrong software/site to generate Keys.
But never again seems too strong. Anyways, we are still deciding.

We'll make a call soon.

For now, please note that the only impacted series is the Orange in VIBGYOR.

We are deciding on how to move forward with rest of VIBGYOR series and series #2 for Vigilante and LCS.

There is no risk to you - making keys or not - and no profit or loss either . .01 btc load costs the buyer .01 btc - however, with security issues and/or questions people will or should hesitate to buy. By doing Buyer Funded you leave it to them to decide now or later whether they want to risk their sats with your keys. When you sell loaded, you force them to take the risk. and with DIY, people can create their own keys removing any issues of trust and/or risk.

[raritycheck]

At the moment the other negative tags on RC have been changed to neutral, going to leave mine as a warning for the moment.
Let's be honest its not going to matter since I don't think anyone is going to be buying anything funded or even with keys they generated for a while.

Once it looks like the majority of the people who lost their funds are paid back at least what they lost I will change it. But for now between the
1) Mistake with the key generation
2) The poor quality of the private keys
3) The admission that more then 1 person had access to the machine that generated / printed the keys

There are too many things that are just not done to the way things should be done to take off the negative in my opinion.

HOWEVER, once it looks like everyone has had their swept coins refunded I will update to a neutral.

raritycheck --> Have you attempted to reach out to the people who have not contacted you yet about this who have the coins? Email / PMs / even a letter though the post office if you have no other way of contacting them since you did ship them a coin you should have their address?

-Dave

Only one person had access to the machine.
As mentioned theVIBGYOR keys  are all readable. You can see people are even redeeming hole coins.
Fine.
Can you please change the wording of the trust rating. Your wording sounds like we are doing a scam but on the opposite we are trying to help everyone impacted.

[krogothmanhattan]

 I think one of the ways we physical bitcoin creators can hopefully help to prevent something like this from happening is to share and educate present and future creators one the process we use and programs to create private keys. Many do not, and thus we find people experimenting and falling for malicous programs and websites.

   I have created  threads here that perhaps more people can post on and guide people to the right programs....this will hopefully prevent and future mishaps.

    https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=5416519.0

    https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=5505467.0

[MoparMiningLLC]

Only one person had access to the machine.
As mentioned theVIBGYOR keys  are all readable. You can see people are even redeeming hole coins.

at some point previously you said "team" used the laptop - if one person only had access then your team is only one person?


and not all the keys were 100% readable I have seen a couple that were not perfectly clear. we did get them figured out but they were not crystal clear as you claim.

[raritycheck]

Only one person had access to the machine.
As mentioned theVIBGYOR keys  are all readable. You can see people are even redeeming hole coins.

at some point previously you said "team" used the laptop - if one person only had access then your team is only one person?


and not all the keys were 100% readable I have seen a couple that were not perfectly clear. we did get them figured out but they were not crystal clear as you claim.

Thank you for the feedback. We said keys are readable (someone else mentioned in the comments that they are crystal clear for Vigilante). 
Apologies if we miscommunicated, from the team only one person had access to the laptop + printer etc.

[ChiBitCTy]

Could you please elaborate or point me to some specific thread?
(And I assume you meant MrCryptoHodl)

2) The poor quality of the private keys


you have not seen MR HOLD private key .  

YEs am referring to MRCRYPTHOLD PRIVATE KEYS

https://imgur.com/a/7xzZesy

fixed  pic



https://imgur.com/a/p9RiTVH

 authentic pic

I will add one as well -

Quite frankly I don’t like ink generated or engraved keys period (not saying they aren’t viable in cases). The one maker who’s been ahead of most everyone (and really everyone period) since day one is Kialara. Not just to speak well of a good friend, but we’ve had so many convos around this subject and I know how much thought and care goes in to every aspect of his wallets. More than “most” any maker, that’s for sure.

Would you rather have a tiny piece of paper with ink, or something like this (protected by glass to boot)


Kialara also understands the importance of self custody, which is what Bitcoin is all about mind you, and created a DIY system that doesn’t give up the “pretty” (we all love the look of holograms)

“ Kialara Guardians introduces a fresh perspective on the concept of self-custody. The innovative design offers individuals the chance to encapsulate their personal public and private key pair or seed phrase within a captivating 2.5″ diameter artwork. This is made possible by an exclusive braille-inspired code system crafted specifically for this purpose.
In this scenario, users are empowered to seize control of their private keys, emphasizing the vital responsibility that accompanies our progressive shift into the blockchain era. By eliminating the requirement for a printer, the system ensures all the security that can only be provided by a fully manual process once keys or seeds have been generated. This immersive hands-on approach fosters a profound connection between users and their individual hard-wallets, establishing a tangible bond of trust and ownership.”


I’ll pose a question for everyone I once asked in a topic ..why are most the OG collectors gone (or don’t collect much new stuff, like myself ?) The answer is because they don’t trust new coin makers, and already have collections with enough “at risk” bitcoin, and don’t want to take more risk on than they already are. This is simply the reality of it. 

If you make coins, adapt, progress, and make this hobby better.  As long as there’s people buying new funded items, the hobby will lose collectors steadily, especially with each coin scam/rug/breach (which includes coins many don’t even realize already like Lealana and Sol Noctis..both of which have had funding issues and were NEVER addressed publicly by the coin makers , despite being asked to do so).  New funded coins being sold means more scams to come. Period. And it will never stop (LLCs and lack of government oversight/willingness to help ..will ensure this hobby will be ripe with scams on a continuous basis if things continue on as they have.

Things are worse than most realize too.

[owlcatz]

Ok, Re: Mr. Hodlwhateverhisnameislately -

Those fonts are fucked. I pity anyone redeeming that shit.

Why not just be simple, and do a QR code instead of bullshit fonty font fuckity shitstorm, Randy?



And Raritychecks are fucked as well...

Hate to say this, but Chib and I saw this all coming on day zero.

[BTCOVERFIATS]

Ok, Re: Mr. Hodlwhateverhisnameislately -

Those fonts are fucked. I pity anyone redeeming that shit.

Why not just be simple, and do a QR code instead of bullshit fonty font fuckity shitstorm, Randy?



And Raritychecks are fucked as well...

Hate to say this, but Chib and I saw this all coming on day zero.

Yeah me seeing that font legit just made me want to sell my entire collection from him I am not even gonna lie.

How did Mike Caldwell get his Casascius coin private key prints so crisp and clean?

[PreciousMetapsICT]

Aren’t there some lealana’s with shitty font and disappearing ink? But he rose above and people still buy his stuff even with about the shittiest customer service out there.

Either way - I hope RC learns and comes back better. Offer some DIY versions to take care of the people who want it.

He’s made some awesome coins. The enamel work is pretty damn good. Batman coin and these V series were very high quality work. Keys were lacking, obviously. Who here has been more affected than RC?

I dunno. I’ve been scammed and rug pulled - zero people stood up, owned their mistakes, refunded people out of their own pocket and yet the one person that does just continues to get shitted on.

We are all human. If you don’t want to trust his keys then don’t, but this is 1000% Better than Coldscam, 1hodlclub missing funding issues, lealanas missing addresses, and btc penny owing people product and loans.

You would think people would cut the guy a little slack or at least not publicly talk shit on someone that is holding themselves accountable and making amends as best they can.

You will need to show proof of better key printing tho, plus outline your process or subcontract it out I don’t know but I’m not gonna kick a guy that’s down and trying to do the right thing