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April 11, 2025, 01:49:47 PM
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No login system yet it needs a key to access an account which means you still to login but using different medium rather than the typical email and password.

I don’t like this personally since I need to save my keys in able to access it which means I need to back up that keys on every device if I want to login from different device because it’s hard to remember it manually.

And how can you deal if someone lost his keys? It means user already lost his account right?

sounds like a guy who would put his crypto on exchange just because he can't manage privatekeys.

If you dont/cant manage keys/seeds you shouldn't even be on bitcointalk


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No login system yet it needs a key to access an account which means you still to login but using different medium rather than the typical email and password.

I don’t like this personally since I need to save my keys in able to access it which means I need to back up that keys on every device if I want to login from different device because it’s hard to remember it manually.

And how can you deal if someone lost his keys? It means user already lost his account right?

sounds like a guy who would put his crypto on exchange just because he can't manage privatekeys.

If you dont/cant manage keys/seeds you shouldn't even be on bitcointalk


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NOT YOUR KEYS, NOT YOUR COINS

As if you are using a casino for a long term purposes.

Are you playing casino all day long? Because I do withdraw my funds whenever I’m finish playing. I don’t see the difference when you are holding your keys to access your account to login using email and password if I don’t leave my funds on a casino after I use.

I’m not trying to bash your services. If you put your perspective on players, Where will you save your keys? On paper?

How can you play on other device in case you are away from home? Will you not save it on your device?

This is the scenario I’m thinking because I can play safe without saving my login credentials on my device since I can easily memorize my email and password compared to keys.



Your service is good for those user that only play on single device because it’s totally safe. I personally find it not working for me because I frequently play outside while I don’t want to save keys on my device to avoid potential exploit in case my phone becomes compromised.





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April 11, 2025, 05:56:14 PM
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No login system yet it needs a key to access an account which means you still to login but using different medium rather than the typical email and password.

I don’t like this personally since I need to save my keys in able to access it which means I need to back up that keys on every device if I want to login from different device because it’s hard to remember it manually.

And how can you deal if someone lost his keys? It means user already lost his account right?

sounds like a guy who would put his crypto on exchange just because he can't manage privatekeys.

If you dont/cant manage keys/seeds you shouldn't even be on bitcointalk


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NOT YOUR KEYS, NOT YOUR COINS

As if you are using a casino for a long term purposes.

Are you playing casino all day long? Because I do withdraw my funds whenever I’m finish playing. I don’t see the difference when you are holding your keys to access your account to login using email and password if I don’t leave my funds on a casino after I use.

I’m not trying to bash your services. If you put your perspective on players, Where will you save your keys? On paper?

How can you play on other device in case you are away from home? Will you not save it on your device?

This is the scenario I’m thinking because I can play safe without saving my login credentials on my device since I can easily memorize my email and password compared to keys.



Your service is good for those user that only play on single device because it’s totally safe. I personally find it not working for me because I frequently play outside while I don’t want to save keys on my device to avoid potential exploit in case my phone becomes compromised.



Hey bro, let me break this down for you so it’s crystal clear. My whole idea is about finding that sweet spot between keeping things secure and anonymous while still making it easy for you to use.

Picture this: if some government agency or authority comes knocking, asking for user data—like what happens with sites like Stake.com or other casinos—they expect us to hand it over. For example, if someone deposits hacked or stolen Bitcoin and it gets mixed into our payment system, most casinos don’t have a choice. They’re forced to share that info with the authorities.

But here’s where we do things differently at 2xpt.com. With our tech, we only hold onto your data—like bets, deposits, withdrawals, or any database entries—for 30 days. After that? Poof, it’s gone. Automatically wiped clean.

Now, during those 30 days while we have your data, we encrypt it in a way that only you can unlock it. We don’t touch the key—it stays in your browser. It’s what we call a zero-knowledge system. This means we, as the house, can’t see your data, and no other player can peek at it either. Everything’s locked up tight.

As for your question about managing keys, here’s my take: I’d recommend using a password manager like 1Password or ProtonPass to store your keys securely. It’s the safest way. But if you want something simpler, just save the key wherever you keep your passwords. Just make sure to leave the username field blank and only store the key in the password slot.

One last thing—we’ll never build a system that lets police, authorities, or lawmakers snoop on your data. And if we collected something like your email, we’d be forced to share it with them, just like Stake.com, Primedice.com, or BC.Game might have to. That’s why we’re designed to avoid that mess altogether. You’re protected, and so are we.

Lots of love to your brother, give 2xpt.com a chance you will love it !
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April 11, 2025, 06:19:11 PM
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But here’s where we do things differently at 2xpt.com. With our tech, we only hold onto your data—like bets, deposits, withdrawals, or any database entries—for 30 days. After that? Poof, it’s gone. Automatically wiped clean.
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I think it is possible to do that without requiring the user to handle private keys whenever they want to play on your website. Players do not take their wallet security as they would their casino accounts, so you cannot expect them to be willing to go through the same level of security for both. There are decentralized casinos that do not store date or require a valid email and they do well at protecting their players privacy.

As for your question about managing keys, here’s my take: I’d recommend using a password manager like 1Password or ProtonPass to store your keys securely. It’s the safest way. But if you want something simpler, just save the key wherever you keep your passwords. Just make sure to leave the username field blank and only store the key in the password slot.
Proton pass being opensource gives it an edge, but I will normally not recommend someone store their keys on a password manager or even handle their keys at all.

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April 11, 2025, 06:29:00 PM
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Last edit: April 14, 2025, 06:52:28 PM by AmoreJaz
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You need to offer some great promotions if you wish to attract gamblers in droves. Also, no one in their right mind would invest in your site since it looks like it's in its alpha stage.

Bro, as you noticed, the website is in the alpha stage, and they are looking for user feedback at this moment. Should we expect some great promotions from a not-ready platform? They are just expecting reviews from the community at this moment and not expecting people to invest huge money.

What I could suggest them is, provide some kind of bonuses to test their platform if they want reviews. Surely people won't spend their own money to test your service that does not benefit them. If you provide some kind of exclusive promotions to BitcoinTalk users, then you may expect people to share their reviews.

That's one way to attract some players on their site. Definitely, most people will just use small amount of money here as they are still establishing their presence in this community. They need to build their reputation as well because this is anon casino. As they are still new, there are still some aspects that they need to polish. Hence, launching this site and asking for some feedback from their potential players.
They may still attract some players who favor non-kyc casinos. Because for some, they have country restrictions or they are very private with their details. But for high rollers, it would take time before they will trust an anon casino because the stakes are high. You can't just trust a new anon casino with your hard-earned money.

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April 11, 2025, 09:43:48 PM
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Looks like we can enter private keys not generated on 2XPT as well
Isn't it more alarming? There are a lot of innocent gamblers that would enter their wallet private keys that they stored Bitcoin. Of course the system saves the private keys; otherwise, your account won't open there. Even this system is encrypted, but still there is risk. I don't feel comfortable logging in with a gambling site through the private keys. I know we can create a new private key for gambling there. But newbies or innocent people would use their existing private keys, which would be the reason for lost funds. Just stating the possibility. Login isn't an issue for a legit casino.

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April 11, 2025, 09:55:58 PM
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Looks like we can enter private keys not generated on 2XPT as well
Isn't it more alarming? There are a lot of innocent gamblers that would enter their wallet private keys that they stored Bitcoin. Of course the system saves the private keys; otherwise, your account won't open there. Even this system is encrypted, but still there is risk. I don't feel comfortable logging in with a gambling site through the private keys. I know we can create a new private key for gambling there. But newbies or innocent people would use their existing private keys, which would be the reason for lost funds. Just stating the possibility. Login isn't an issue for a legit casino.

I think you meant crypto seed ? who the hell uses bitcoin via private keys, even if they did. Anyone using same password/keys/2FA for multiple site is stupid beyond reason and at this point asking to be hacked.

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I don't like the idea about providing our private key, ..
I think you can minimize risks by using a dedicated gambling wallet. Honestly, I find the decentralized casino process pretty cool, but on the gaming side, OP needs to offer something unique to stand out and attract users. I’ve seen a few decentralized casinos already, but realistically, they still struggle to compete with regulated ones, especially since some licensed casinos don’t even require KYC, giving them an edge in both game variety and accessibility.

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Welcome to bitcointalk, 2xpt!

I just took a look at your website, and the first thing I noticed is that it shows 83 users online, which I find interesting for a casino that’s still in the beta phase. So, I'm wondering if those are real users or just bots?

Also, you mentioned that your games are provably fair and bets are verifiable. However, the "Provably Fair" tab only shows the next bet hash, without revealing the server seed. There’s also no option to change the client seed or a link to your open verification tool.

Since the platform is still in beta, I think it would be a good idea to add a demo mode for your games so that users can test them for free.

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Welcome to bitcointalk, 2xpt!

I just took a look at your website, and the first thing I noticed is that it shows 83 users online, which I find interesting for a casino that’s still in the beta phase. So, I'm wondering if those are real users or just bots?

Also, you mentioned that your games are provably fair and bets are verifiable. However, the "Provably Fair" tab only shows the next bet hash, without revealing the server seed. There’s also no option to change the client seed or a link to your open verification tool.

Since the platform is still in beta, I think it would be a good idea to add a demo mode for your games so that users can test them for free.

Finally someone who actually tested the project and is not robot like response, thanks khaled0111

Users Online are calculated like this

If user stays on a /play for 5 seconds or more, he is counted as online user for 100 seconds




Also, you mentioned that your games are provably fair and bets are verifiable. However, the "Provably Fair" tab only shows the next bet hash, without revealing the server seed. There’s also no option to change the client seed or a link to your open verification tool.



Hey regarding bet verification just, click on bet it will explain everything. its super simple.

here is example bet : https://2xpt.com/bet/107






Since the platform is still in beta, I think it would be a good idea to add a demo mode for your games so that users can test them for free.


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here is example bet : https://2xpt.com/bet/107







looks good, i deposited some to try  Grin

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I’m really excited about 2xpt.com! Could you create a unique signature for me to promote it? I’ve been searching for a project like this, and I’m genuinely impressed. I switched from Binance to Hyperliquid a while back and haven’t looked back, so I’m all in on innovative solutions like yours. Signature-based logins feel like the future to me!

Don’t let the skeptics get you down—most of them are probably just point-farming or don’t understand the tech. I’m a big fan and want to support you!

A few thoughts:
  • Are you planning to open investment opportunities for bankrolling? I’d love to be first in line!
  • Have you considered adding a referral system? It could help grow the community.
  • I’m bookmarking this and plan to create a few accounts to explore further.

Keep up the great work, and I’ll be watching closely. Excited to see where this project goes!

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That 1% house edge is very appealing. I'm planning to try the casino this weekend, and I love playing dices. I was wondering if you guys plan to add more games besides dices in the future, or is the platform built specifically for dices?

So i need to save this key ?  Huh Huh Huh

Yes, since it does not require registration with personal data such as email and password, the key will be your only way to access your account. Think of it as a seed phrase or private key for a cryptocurrency wallet, for example. Keep it as safe as possible!



 
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That 1% house edge is very appealing. I'm planning to try the casino this weekend, and I love playing dices. I was wondering if you guys plan to add more games besides dices in the future, or is the platform built specifically for dices?

So i need to save this key ?  Huh Huh Huh

Yes, since it does not require registration with personal data such as email and password, the key will be your only way to access your account. Think of it as a seed phrase or private key for a cryptocurrency wallet, for example. Keep it as safe as possible!




DICE ONLY

but i got creative and built a wrapper on top of it, basically every game is dice game under the hood so we can add more games but they will be using dice logic under the hood. see the example games we have now

DICE, COIN TOSS, YOLO ( aka CRASH )



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That 1% house edge is very appealing. I'm planning to try the casino this weekend, and I love playing dices. I was wondering if you guys plan to add more games besides dices in the future, or is the platform built specifically for dices?

So i need to save this key ?  Huh Huh Huh

Yes, since it does not require registration with personal data such as email and password, the key will be your only way to access your account. Think of it as a seed phrase or private key for a cryptocurrency wallet, for example. Keep it as safe as possible!




DICE ONLY

but i got creative and built a wrapper on top of it, basically every game is dice game under the hood so we can add more games but they will be using dice logic under the hood. see the example games we have now

DICE, COIN TOSS, YOLO ( aka CRASH )





Sweet  Roll Eyes you are smart OP

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That's one way to attract some players on their site. Definitely, most people will just use small amount of money here as they are still establishing their presence in this community. They need to build their reputation as well because this is anon casino. As they are still new, there are still some aspects that they need to polish. Hence, launching this site and asking for some feedback from their potential players.

Right. I argued that we should not expect big promotions from start-ups while they are still working on their product. Big promotions should be in place when the product is ready. We people bother the platforms too much about promotions. 90% of the newly created threads have at least one suggestion to run a signature campaign or provide some exclusive bonus code for Bitcointalk users. I don't think the new platforms take it positively.

Let's see if they plan anything on their own. I am sure several managers already reached out to them, and I did as well. If they plan to launch any campaign or anything, we will hear back from them, or at least we will see.


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Looks like we can enter private keys not generated on 2XPT as well



I'd probably just create a burner wallet that could easily let me view private keys— for convenience's sake— if I wanna play. Or perhaps op could let players drop an address and a signed message from it (sign of ownership) as an alternative login. Maybe it'd feel less threatening for other folks too.

In any case, promising concept op. Good luck!
Its better to be safe than sorry, we arent saying that this site is dangerous but inputting up your privatekey on any website you can found online does impose risks no matter how trustable or credible it would be. The best thing to be done is to make some burner wallet. I do see this not to be that a total dice game but rather it do make out some rolls and win up according into the result. If everything could be that verified without any issues then this concept isnt something new anymore yet we've been through similar idea like this but it is partaking on lottery side and not on a dice based but since the results will be basing up with numbers then it will be just that the same.

Alternative log in or having other more options will be always that preferred rather than on having less on which we can actually be able to play without minding much about using up our own keys. Its good to have that self generated wallet created that you can use into.
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April 12, 2025, 10:21:18 AM
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Looks like we can enter private keys not generated on 2XPT as well



I'd probably just create a burner wallet that could easily let me view private keys— for convenience's sake— if I wanna play. Or perhaps op could let players drop an address and a signed message from it (sign of ownership) as an alternative login. Maybe it'd feel less threatening for other folks too.

In any case, promising concept op. Good luck!
Its better to be safe than sorry, we arent saying that this site is dangerous but inputting up your privatekey on any website you can found online does impose risks no matter how trustable or credible it would be. The best thing to be done is to make some burner wallet. I do see this not to be that a total dice game but rather it do make out some rolls and win up according into the result. If everything could be that verified without any issues then this concept isnt something new anymore yet we've been through similar idea like this but it is partaking on lottery side and not on a dice based but since the results will be basing up with numbers then it will be just that the same.


AFAIK, it’s not the private of your Bitcoin wallet rather a private generated by the website when you create an account.

The goal of this casino is to operate anonymously that’s why they are using this method as login and destroy the account after 30days which means you can’t use the same key anymore for a longer time. At least this is what I understand on this casino feature.

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Alternative log in or having other more options will be always that preferred rather than on having less on which we can actually be able to play without minding much about using up our own keys. Its good to have that self generated wallet created that you can use into.

This is good suggestion but I doubt this will be considered if they want to stick with no data will be saved permanently.
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