Iran - Israel War

[God Of Thunder]

Hey Community!

The USA has been saying that it wants a peace deal with Iran, and the middle country was Oman. They are supposed to be in a meeting this Sunday (today) on Mascot regarding the peace deal. But suddenly out of nowhere, Israel attacked Iran and killed 9 Nuclear scientists and a couple of high officials. Some people are saying Iran does not want peace.

Well, if so, why did Israel attack Iran while they were supposed to be in a meeting in two days? At first, the USA said they didn't know anything about this attack. A day later, Trump said he knew everything and that the attack happened using US weapons.

The so-called peace deal meeting was just in case Iran refuses to talk, so they can blame Iran. The plan was that, no matter if Iran agrees or not, the USA will attack Iran using Israel. Israel attacked four countries in the last seven days. What do they want, actually? Peace, or some pieces of these countries?

[BitBakerr1]

US is really causing more harm than good, I really don't know what they stand to gain in this attacks that are always been carried out, some will say US are not aware or involved in the attack but with the level of support the US government is giving Israel in this war I'm very sure Israel won't just carry out an attack when US has suggested peace talk without the consent or knowledge of US.
The US government should stop playing politics with the life of people.
If truly the US government wants peace and is not involved in this attack that is been carried out they should sanction Israel immediately for carrying out this attack knowing fully well they have talked about a peace talk.

[WhoYouCantKill]

I believe all US is tryna do is prevent Iran from acquiring Nuclear power/war head, thus their reason for attacking Iran's nuclear scientists. I don't know what the US reasons are for not wanting Iran to own a nuclear war head, but what I know is that they're not the only ones who wants that. And I believe their terms was, if Iran was ready to make peace or comply with the US, they'd abandon their interests in owning a nuclear war head.

[Felicity_Tide]

Hey Community!

The USA has been saying that it wants a peace deal with Iran, and the middle country was Oman. They are supposed to be in a meeting this Sunday (today) on Mascot regarding the peace deal. But suddenly out of nowhere, Israel attacked Iran and killed 9 Nuclear scientists and a couple of high officials. Some people are saying Iran does not want peace.

Well, if so, why did Israel attack Iran while they were supposed to be in a meeting in two days? At first, the USA said they didn't know anything about this attack. A day later, Trump said he knew everything and that the attack happened using US weapons.

The so-called peace deal meeting was just in case Iran refuses to talk, so they can blame Iran. The plan was that, no matter if Iran agrees or not, the USA will attack Iran using Israel. Israel attacked four countries in the last seven days. What do they want, actually? Peace, or some pieces of these countries?

The more we try to look at the case, the more it keeps getting complicated.
If I'm to use what I've read and watched to place my own judgement, I might be wrong, because at this point, I don't even know what is true and what is not.

From what I have read so far, the meeting was never about a peaceful talk, but it was about stopping Iran from getting involve in Nuclear weapon production. AFAIK, Israel beliefs that Iran could be a threat if they continue to produce nuclear weapon, so therefore, they should either be monitored or be stopped(not sure now). Tbh, feeling that nobody should do what you are permitted to do sounds like trouble to me. And from reports, Israel is trying to drag the US into the fight, which won't be a wise thing to.

The truth is, this whole story keeps getting crazy, and the media on the other hand are making things a bit interesting and worse. I have seen so many false videos on X(Twitter), all in the name of selling news to the people. It's a shame. It is crazy and disappointing to see people losing their lives just for the interest of those that don't put them at heart. I really hope they resolve the whole issue soon.


This is a bit off topic, though still related...
I think this is the funniest thing I have read today.
While the war is ongoing, some people seem to have other things that interest them the most. Here is the X link : https://x.com/BRICSinfo/status/1933872405090566267?t=4DIAOSM9H4LCTVHakan4Vw&s=19

[franky1]

Hey Community!

The USA has been saying that it wants a peace deal with Iran, and the middle country was Oman. They are supposed to be in a meeting this Sunday (today) on Mascot regarding the peace deal. But suddenly out of nowhere, Israel attacked Iran and killed 9 Nuclear scientists and a couple of high officials. Some people are saying Iran does not want peace.

Well, if so, why did Israel attack Iran while they were supposed to be in a meeting in two days? At first, the USA said they didn't know anything about this attack. A day later, Trump said he knew everything and that the attack happened using US weapons.

The so-called peace deal meeting was just in case Iran refuses to talk, so they can blame Iran. The plan was that, no matter if Iran agrees or not, the USA will attack Iran using Israel. Israel attacked four countries in the last seven days. What do they want, actually? Peace, or some pieces of these countries?

days before the attack.. the US had appointment dates set to meet with iran today to do a peace deal (keep iran in the NPT by negotiating a extension to the JCPOA side deal that relaxed sanctions..) however iran indicated it actually wants to leave the NPT and start making nukes..

during those calls. isreal told the US if iran continues to show desires for nukes and declines the deal negotiations meetup. isreal will have to attack irans nuclear strongholds and research facilities at some point.. and so advised the US to get their ambassadors out of the regions of iran->isreal because if striking iran, it may turn to war of iran striking back at isreal, so to be safe get the US ambassadors out
so trump knew something may happen if iran didnt come to the table.. but no exact day or time was told to the US of when isreal will strike.. just that isreal will, to take out infrastructure and personnel related to nuclear refining

and when iran categorically declined the offer to come to the table.. isreal struck iran

[Fiatless]

Sadly, we live in a world where political leaders have become chronic liars. The US said they were not informed about the attack but it has been confirmed that they were lying.  

Everything that Israel is doing is backed by the US. And if Trump, who promised to make the world a safer place, is sincere,  he would instruct Israel to stop the attacks.

My heart goes out to the innocent civilians in Gaza, Israel and Iran who are the victims of this war. These politicians and their families are in the best and highly secured locations.

[zenaku]

Sadly, we live in a world where political leaders have become chronic liars. The US said they were not informed about the attack but it has been confirmed that they were lying.  

Everything that Israel is doing is backed by the US. And if Trump, who promised to make the world a safer place, is sincere,  he would instruct Israel to stop the attacks.

My heart goes out to the innocent civilians in Gaza, Israel and Iran who are the victims of this war. These politicians and their families are in the best and highly secured locations.

Any attempt at peace is doomed to fail... We're at the mercy of political leaders who have their own ways of doing business—drugs, prostitution, weapons... and other things we don't even know about. They've grown so used to it that they don't know how to do anything else, so they'll keep doing it for many more centuries.

The ones who end up paying the price are the people—we're just pawns. There's an expanding empire, and it's taking over territories.

There are already four major powers involved (plus one organization):

USA

Russia

NATO

Israel

Iran

I'm waiting for China to step in, and I expect it to happen through a conflict in Taiwan. The stage is set for it.

Hold your loved ones close. Take care of each other. Keep a whistle and a phone within reach—we don’t know when we might have to run.

[coolcoinz]

I'm waiting for China to step in, and I expect it to happen through a conflict in Taiwan. The stage is set for it.

They are. China criticized Israel for attacking Iran and stated that they should stop further attacks. China is showing what side it is on.

This is actually an escalation of a conflict that's been brewing for years. When Russia attacked Ukraine, look who took that side of Russia in that conflict by sending weapons. Iran.
Who kept trading with Russia? China and India.

While the whole EU, Turkey, South Korea, Japan and of course the US are siding with Ukraine, North Korea, China, India, Iran are clearly with Russia. The world is being divided, like it's prepping for a new world order and a world war. Israel is in the middle of that war because it's surrounded by enemies and waging wars left and right. Unfortunately for the Jews, they can be easily overwhelmed. For instance Iran has almost 4 times more troops than Israel. If Iran decides to invade with ground forces it's going to be a bloodbath with hundreds of thousands dead on both sides.

[Agbamoni]

The sole craftmanship of the entire plan is the US. They have their own weapons, but the ones made known and the ones unknown to us. Germany China, the European countries have their own weapons which I believe every great nation should have a strong defense weapon. But the US are scared, why Iran had been developing the nuclear weapons.

It is not obvious to me that there are countries who don't want others to leave in peace. It can't be possible for one nation to rule the world, if that is what Trump has come to do then he is going to fail.

[zenaku]

The sole craftmanship of the entire plan is the US. They have their own weapons, but the ones made known and the ones unknown to us. Germany China, the European countries have their own weapons which I believe every great nation should have a strong defense weapon. But the US are scared, why Iran had been developing the nuclear weapons.

It is not obvious to me that there are countries who don't want others to leave in peace. It can't be possible for one nation to rule the world, if that is what Trump has come to do then he is going to fail.

Trump is just a pawn; we don't know who's really behind the plan.
What is clear is that the board is moving — this time, with Trump.
The moves are slow... so, what will the next one be?

[Agbamoni]

Trump is just a pawn; we don't know who's really behind the plan.
What is clear is that the board is moving — this time, with Trump.
The moves are slow... so, what will the next one be?

What is it that you dont know? If you think some other nation are behind it the take a look at this official statement - US military helped stop Iranian missiles heading to Israel, officials say

Its mainly the US, which has sent thousands of bombs, Hellfire misses, guidance kits and more to Israel over the years. Trump is not the supplier it is the US aids specifically. Even before Trump became the current President, US-proposed $8B arms sale will likely be Biden’s last major deal with Israel.

See more here https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/israel-iran-war-us-helps-israel-intercept-iranian-missile-barrage-warships-and-jets-mobilised-across-middle-east/articleshow/121838363.cms?utm_source=chatgpt.com

[BADecker]

Why isn't Russia more active in the Israel-Iran war? It's because China is acting for Russia by supplying armament to Iran. This way Russia can save its armament to use on Ukraine, and China doesn't have the expense of sending armament through North Korea to Russia.

The real question will be, why does the US need to join one side or another? Let these foreign country jokers fight it out, and let the US improve its military so that it has TOP strength to repel anybody who it wants to repel.

Note that if Hitler had been given one more year to strengthen Germany, Germany would have won WW2. Don't let the US attack without proper strength. So far the economy has been US strength. But many countries around the world are throwing off the USDollar fiat domination.

[franky1]

Trump is just a pawn; we don't know who's really behind the plan.

everyone knows trumps first administration, trump babbling his own internal off topic thoughts. no good speech writers to keep him on track, no good cabinet or research teams.. and so he was left to his own devices in his first term

everyone knows trumps second administration shows trump in a new light, he has a good entourage behind him, well organised and they have had many goals to achieve, even in the first 100 days...

but when you dig deeper.. you find howard lutnick
lutnick has a history in regards to 9-11, his business was in the towers, his brother worked and died in the towers. as did hundreds of colleagues

he managed the fundraiser for trumps 2024 election (trumps 2020 and clintons 2016 election) he had lofty goals to be A presidents second arm
lutnick was co-chairman of Trump's transition team, Lutnick prioritised loyalty to Trump in his hiring decisions

he also persuaded elon (who banned trump from twitter) to join the campaign and make friends with trump
lutnick even stroked elons ego by coming up with the name for elons efficiency team to be 'doge' to tickle elons ego into wanting to join it more so
lutnick is also involved in pushing for crypto to be part of trumps campaign
lutnick is involved in the tariffs and also foreign export control sanctions(emphasis sanctions, hint hint(oil and uranium from middle east))

so if you want to know who organised the people behind trump and trumps campaign and pledges.. look at lutnicks history

[BADecker]

Looks like if the West doesn't improve its military capabilities drastically, we will all be speaking Russian in the near future. If the US doesn't respond to the Israel-Iran war, Russia will only become stronger. The question is how to respond, since the economies of the world are the real war.

[Hispo]

To me it seems pretty clear Israel does  it have any sincere interest on some peace deal and nuclear deal between the United States and Iran, because that would lead to some de-escalation of the conflict in the middle east. I have come to the conclusion  it is true Netanyahu is actually escalating the conflict between his country and Iran, because if things calm down in the region, then he is likely to be removed from power and be prosecuted for crimes against humanity and genocide against the people in the Gaza strip. He needs the war to continue against Hamas and Hezbollah, and if Iran also gets hostile then it is also good for his political career not to suddenly end with him getting removed from power.

Also, Iran and the leadership of the country is not stupid, the nuclear development sites are underground, outside of the reach of any missile from Israel.

[God Of Thunder]

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I like it when I see your arguments
You are not invited franky. No one is interested in hearing your opinion.

[Tungbulu]

The sole craftmanship of the entire plan is the US. They have their own weapons, but the ones made known and the ones unknown to us. Germany China, the European countries have their own weapons which I believe every great nation should have a strong defense weapon. But the US are scared, why Iran had been developing the nuclear weapons.

It is not obvious to me that there are countries who don't want others to leave in peace. It can't be possible for one nation to rule the world, if that is what Trump has come to do then he is going to fail.

They don't call them the world power for nothing you know.

Without Nukes, the Iranians are holding up their defense pretty well and even fighting back, so imagine if they've got some of those in their Arsenal. The thing about these Nukes is that, you just might not know how much damage those things can inflict. And that's exactly what the US is trying to avoid, using Israel as a camouflage to do their thing and still appear to be appear to be ones proposing peace.

I see that the US isn't really interested in hurting nobody in Iran, thus their reason for proposing a peace talk, if Iran was so interested in putting an end to all the killings  and attacks, then they'll just accept the treaty and then maybe come to reasonable terms with the US and all these would end in no time.

[ruykeri]

There is a very important issue that no one seems to care about anymore, which is the genocide in Palestine has not stopped . its happening while war between Iran and Israel. 

This situation is extremely alarming. 

Right now, the whole world is focused on the Iran-Israel conflict. but a much more intense genocide is ongoing in Palestine but no international media is covering it and no one is discussing it. 

This kind of distraction is often part of a larger plan to shift the world's attention elsewhere while carrying out brutal actions behind the scenes. It’s important to realize that diverting attention is a deliberate strategy. 

[Fiatless]

They don't call them the world power for nothing you know.

Without Nukes, the Iranians are holding up their defense pretty well and even fighting back, so imagine if they've got some of those in their Arsenal. The thing about these Nukes is that, you just might not know how much damage those things can inflict. And that's exactly what the US is trying to avoid, using Israel as a camouflage to do their thing and still appear to be appear to be ones proposing peace.

I see that the US isn't really interested in hurting nobody in Iran, thus their reason for proposing a peace talk, if Iran was so interested in putting an end to all the killings  and attacks, then they'll just accept the treaty and then maybe come to reasonable terms with the US and all these would end in no time.

The aggressor here is Israel. There were supposed to be negotiations in a few days about Iran's nuclear programs, but Israel began to attack Iran, kicking some impotent personalities and destroying key infrastructure. If Israel stops attacking, I am sure Iran will also cease fire. But you don't expect Iran to go back to the negotiation when they are under fire.

I am surprised you think the US is not interested in hurting anybody when about 220 Iranians have been killed and more have been wounded. Israel was able to achieve it with the backing of the US.

[Tungbulu]

They don't call them the world power for nothing you know.

Without Nukes, the Iranians are holding up their defense pretty well and even fighting back, so imagine if they've got some of those in their Arsenal. The thing about these Nukes is that, you just might not know how much damage those things can inflict. And that's exactly what the US is trying to avoid, using Israel as a camouflage to do their thing and still appear to be appear to be ones proposing peace.

I see that the US isn't really interested in hurting nobody in Iran, thus their reason for proposing a peace talk, if Iran was so interested in putting an end to all the killings  and attacks, then they'll just accept the treaty and then maybe come to reasonable terms with the US and all these would end in no time.

The aggressor here is Israel. There were supposed to be negotiations in a few days about Iran's nuclear programs, but Israel began to attack Iran, kicking some impotent personalities and destroying key infrastructure. If Israel stops attacking, I am sure Iran will also cease fire. But you don't expect Iran to go back to the negotiation when they are under fire.

I am surprised you think the US is not interested in hurting anybody when about 220 Iranians have been killed and more have been wounded. Israel was able to achieve it with the backing of the US.

I think you misunderstood me. Do you think that the US or Isreal would kill or hurt Iranians if there was an actual agreement between them or if they had agreed earlier to sign the treaty without first letting thing escalate to this point? I'm not trying to justify what the US and Israeli are doing but we all know that things only got to this point because of Iran's refusal and US is only tryna establish some form of dominance and show them who's Boss.

Iran should've known better than thinking they could actually go up against Israel knowing fully well that they are allies with the United States, let's stop playing the pity game, if Iran had more fire power, I'm pretty sure they'd do the same thing that Isreal is doing, this is just a dispute and disputes are meant to be settled, I'm pretty sure if Iran is in full compliance, then Isreal will definitely cease fire.