Bc.game , how it scammed me by not providing me my deposit

[holydarkness]

Thank you for the suggestion, It took me hours to find it
Dear legendary Darkness, kindly check this

https://i.postimg.cc/g2fhmNrv/Picsart-25-09-06-11-49-29-663.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/FRh7HqvJ/IMG-20250906-WA0001.jpg

Confirm from your contact how were this successful if it is a wrong merchant

Wait for Monday, if you don't mind? I tend to leave my contacts of every casinos to each of their own personal time during weekend [just like I mostly spend my weekend away from forum related matters]. I'll reach them again by Monday.

[JOKERZFIST]

Ok sir.

[Shishir99]

Confirm from your contact how were this successful if it is a wrong merchant

I just checked the images, and I see the merchant is the same. As I suspected, the merchant seems like a scammer here. I won't be surprised at all because I have seen similar cases before. This happens on 1win, 1xbet, and other casinos that accept payment in fiat and work with third-party merchants. So, I know these things happen, and most cases don't even come to the forum.

BTW the name looks familiar to me.

I did a quick Google search, and a few companies have the same name. The most popular one is located in Pune. One of them is probably popular in your area, so the name looks familiar.

[JOKERZFIST]

Actually bc casino is using third party payment for tax evasion. Usually these merchants name them after famous companies having small alphabetical variation to avoid government surveillance

[holydarkness]

Actually bc casino is using third party payment for tax evasion. Usually these merchants name them after famous companies having small alphabetical variation to avoid government surveillance

No, if I understand things correctly, then the fake name is actually for customer's behalf. I believe gambling is prohibited [either by law or by ethic] in your country? Many "gray area" business works with different-named-entities for their payment processor, so that the transaction won't reflect back to the payers [you, the customer] on your monthly statement.

For example, a bar that serve alcoholic drink named "Wine and Whiskey" will bill you under "Glass & co.", so that upon your monthly statement, anyone interested to see your monthly transaction will only think you bought 8,000 USD sets of ceramic antique instead of a bottle of Gran Reserva.

[JOKERZFIST]

No sir it is not banned here in India, you can confirm it from your contact. The thing is that they use third party payment to avoid taxes i think

[holydarkness]

No sir it is not banned here in India, you can confirm it from your contact. The thing is that they use third party payment to avoid taxes i think

I am currently re-inquiring for their update. I believe where we leave it off last Friday [that followed by a weekend], I asked them about whether MSR is indeed the 3rd party working with them and the intended address and where does the instruction sent to you to send the fund to that address come from, if the situation is like you described.

They are currently yet to nudge me back. Please wait a little

[JOKERZFIST]

Ok sir I am waiting

[holydarkness]

Ok sir I am waiting

OP, umm, I will send you a PM with specific instructions of what they need, to check your deposit situation and credit you suppose the problem is from their end. Unfortunately, I once again have to be "the medium" and relayed information from you to my contact and from them to you. I've done this before and it worked [I'll add that it take a toll to bunch of nerve ends on my right forehead], but the data you sent me will unfortunately have to contain private information of you as I will work as medium between you both.

I will need your consent before proceeding to send the instructions as the instructions themselves are meant to be private and not to be discussed publicly. If you refuse to get me to be the medium, I will refrain from sending the information. If you agree to it, rest assured that I am not nosy and will only scan your data you provided to me to see that the file contains element that's required by my contact. I will not read in details and will just relay from you to them.

My words that I keep repeating whenever I initiate this kind of action is that [I am saying the next sentence with no offense intended and as gentle as I can]: the details of your life doesn't interest me. I will just scan them to see it is what's asked, then I will erase them from my mind [and later on, from my device].

Do I have your consent?

[JOKERZFIST]

Ok what else you need I will do. I give you my consent

[holydarkness]

Ok what else you need I will do. I give you my consent

I am sending you a PM. You're on a newbie rank, so you're limited to max 2 PMs per 24 hours. I will advise you to exhaust those maximum messages to reply me with the point I requested, and if you don't understand about one or two points, ask here by post, but only mention the number, to keep the information asked private. Please refrain from asking what I sent by PM publicly. For instance, "I don't understand point C, why I need to take a picture with my dog?". Instead, just write "point C", and I will explain by PM.

This is just precaution, as the instruction is basically straightforward and easy to understand.

[JOKERZFIST]

Kindly check sir, I have sent what you said

[holydarkness]

Kindly check sir, I have sent what you said

I confirm that I've received all of the requirement as per the list I sent you, I've relayed all the data to my contact and nudged them to look into all of it. Please wait a little for them to read me and inspect the documents. I'll inform you if they have other things that they need.

[JOKERZFIST]

Ok sir , do tell me if you need anything else

[holydarkness]

Ok sir , do tell me if you need anything else

Yeah, a confirmation.

My contact looked into your details and inquired to the merchant and they returned to my contact with information that the UTR was claimed by other merchant, my contact kindly asked you to confirm if all the data is correct?

Umm.. Bitcoin Smith, I might need your help here [hopefully you use the TG notifier]. I am not familiar with INR system with their UTR, UPI, and the workflows. Do you understand what's the issue and what my FIAT contact tried to confirm to OP here? How exactly can a transaction or an UTR be claimed by other merchant?

[Bitcoin Smith]

Ok sir , do tell me if you need anything else

Yeah, a confirmation.

My contact looked into your details and inquired to the merchant and they returned to my contact with information that the UTR was claimed by other merchant, my contact kindly asked you to confirm if all the data is correct?

Umm.. Bitcoin Smith, I might need your help here [hopefully you use the TG notifier]. I am not familiar with INR system with their UTR, UPI, and the workflows. Do you understand what's the issue and what my FIAT contact tried to confirm to OP here? How exactly can a transaction or an UTR be claimed by other merchant?

UTR is unique reference number comes with every UPI transactions even if it's failed and for you to give you an understanding UPI ID is like a bitcoin address where anyone can send funds to simply using the UPI ID and whenever they do a transaction there will be a reference number UTR which is unique and similar to txid this is used to know the status of the transfer (success/failed only by the banks).

The argument of someone else claimed the UTR/funds doesn't make sense to me unless OP paid to a wrong UPI ID.

[holydarkness]

Ok sir , do tell me if you need anything else

Yeah, a confirmation.

My contact looked into your details and inquired to the merchant and they returned to my contact with information that the UTR was claimed by other merchant, my contact kindly asked you to confirm if all the data is correct?

Umm.. Bitcoin Smith, I might need your help here [hopefully you use the TG notifier]. I am not familiar with INR system with their UTR, UPI, and the workflows. Do you understand what's the issue and what my FIAT contact tried to confirm to OP here? How exactly can a transaction or an UTR be claimed by other merchant?

UTR is unique reference number comes with every UPI transactions even if it's failed and for you to give you an understanding UPI ID is like a bitcoin address where anyone can send funds to simply using the UPI ID and whenever they do a transaction there will be a reference number UTR which is unique and similar to txid this is used to know the status of the transfer (success/failed only by the banks).

The argument of someone else claimed the UTR/funds doesn't make sense to me unless OP paid to a wrong UPI ID.

Thank you. That enlighten the model of UTR and UPI a bit. I'll write this in my notebook for future UPI/UTR/INR situation, LOL. If you don't mind translating things one more time, the exact wording that my contact wrote is, "The merchant did not receive the payment for the order ID provided by the user. Please ask the user to check their details once again. The payment was received by a different merchant.

Do I correctly understand that they mean the UTR submitted to BC is the wrong one? Or were they saying OP send to wrong UPI?

[Bitcoin Smith]

"The merchant did not receive the payment for the order ID provided by the user. Please ask the user to check their details once again. The payment was received by a different merchant.

Do I correctly understand that they mean the UTR submitted to BC is the wrong one? Or were they saying OP send to wrong UPI?

Now it makes sense, possibly the merchant checked with their banking side via the UTR which is enough to know who is the sender and receiver involved in the transaction and it looks like they are saying funds are paid to wrong UPI ID not the one mentioned by OP. But OP posted a screenshot that looks legit and he also paid to the same UPI ID successfully.

And this is a banking system we are talking about (no information is public) so we can't say who is saying the truth but UTR can be used to track the funds and the receiver.

[holydarkness]

"The merchant did not receive the payment for the order ID provided by the user. Please ask the user to check their details once again. The payment was received by a different merchant.

Do I correctly understand that they mean the UTR submitted to BC is the wrong one? Or were they saying OP send to wrong UPI?

Now it makes sense, possibly the merchant checked with their banking side via the UTR which is enough to know who is the sender and receiver involved in the transaction and it looks like they are saying funds are paid to wrong UPI ID not the one mentioned by OP. But OP posted a screenshot that looks legit and he also paid to the same UPI ID successfully.

And this is a banking system we are talking about (no information is public) so we can't say who is saying the truth but UTR can be used to track the funds and the receiver.

If I may try to guess to understand how INR FIAT deposit works in BC, and if you don't mind confirming, we make a deposit "request" and they will send us an UPI ID, namely a merchant of whom you shall transfer your INR to, and the transaction to that merchant will generate us UTR, of which the UTR shall then submitted to BC for confirmation and crediting?

[Bitcoin Smith]

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we make a deposit "request" and they will send us an UPI ID, namely a merchant of whom you shall transfer your INR to, and the transaction to that merchant will generate us UTR, of which the UTR shall then submitted to BC for confirmation and crediting?

Not completely, let me walk you through the process here.

When we click UPI deposit request after entering an amount on BC which will gives us one or two UPI options where we can choose anyone and pay. Once we paid we just need to copy UTR which is generated by bank (not by merchant) and paste into BC and click confirm then the balance will just reflect instantly.
I tried UPI option and it looks disabled since this new Promotion and Regulation of Online Gaming Bill, 2025 prohibits INR transfers with any gambling sites so you may not have to deal with this UPI/INR issues anymore unless we have a change in the rule.