The lower the price goes, the less risky to buy Bitcoins

[Koadharber]

Unless you believe that Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme that will go to zero, like Peter Schiff and other enlightened individuals, any time is a good time to buy. The longer your time horizon for HODLing, the less it matters when you buy, although obviously dips would be better opportunities. The only problem would be if you don't have a long enough time horizon, because when there is a dip, you won't know if it will continue to fall, no matter how much analysis you do.

Actually depending on your level of knowledge towards Bitcoin or crypto as a whole. We do know that each person do have different approach and impressions towards on what they are that involving into on which there are those who are that being that too optimistic and there are ones which are that too scared on doing up such actions even though they do want to make out some step forward on making some investment. It would be that common sense that the lower the price you would be able to buy then the better chance that you would be able to make profits at the time that the price would be making out such recovery. The question on here is that, how you would be that finding yourself that being confident at the time that the price is continuing on dipping or dumping?

For sure, the thing that you will be having in mind is that, what if the price would be going down even more? You would be starting on having those doubts on which it will be resulting into hesitance on making up such action for you to make out some investment which is a very common reaction for someone to make out some investment.

[Mpamaegbu]

Until now, Bitcoin was always in a long term uptrend.

Even now that it seems Bitcoin is dipping, it's still in an uptrend from its inception. Anyone can check monthly or yearly chart to see that.

I always consider buying whenever the price dip using a fibonacci retracement to determine the possible support base on known high and low on the current price leg.

Fibo is a good tool to know a perfect DCA setup for the current cycle...

No tool or indicator is perfect. Otherwise, everyone would be wealthy trading. Using Fibo to catch entries or exit points will depend of what timeframe one draws it from. So, what TF is ideal for you in determining your DCA entry point? If you don't mind to share.

[Finebone]

Until now, Bitcoin was always in a long term uptrend.

Even now that it seems Bitcoin is dipping, it's still in an uptrend from its inception. Anyone can check monthly or yearly chart to see that.

True, it's still an uptrend till it break through and close below the 76k support that seems very strong on the monthly timeframe, and do not be surprised if it dip further to retest that spot, because by looking at the monthly and weekly timeframe, everything seems clear that bitcoin is coming to that point, 76k mark, but in my own opinion, it's very unlikely that it will break through when that time comes.
But investment wise, buying at this current rate is not a bad idea because no one is 100% certain of what will happen to the value of Bitcoin now or in the future, so buying now and seizing this dip opportunity is the best we can do for ourselves because this is a dip that may never come again.

[Mpamaegbu]

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True, it's still an uptrend till it break through and close below the 76k support that seems very strong on the monthly timeframe, and do not be surprised if it dip further to retest that spot, because by looking at the monthly and weekly timeframe, everything seems clear that bitcoin is coming to that point, 76k mark...

Bitcoin dipping is already causing a lot of weak hands adrenaline rush. I don't truly blame any noob panicking, sincerely. I would be scared too were this circle my first experience in this industry. To be frank, I never expected this crash at this time. Didn't we fondly know the month of November as Movember? What's happening this November is least expected and to even say it's happening in a post-halving year is unbelievably ludicrous.

[d5000]

Will you still have this same view or opinion if Bitcoin price was currently selling for $200k today?

You're of course correct that it's easy to make statements after the event Myself for example I expected a leg to 130-150k, which didn't happen until now.

But what I want to emphasize here is probabilities. There were many indicators that in October Bitcoin had already headed into a late bull market. There had been several pullbacks already, and there weren't that many new bullish signals. Bitcoin has already made 700% since the last significant low in late 2022. The higher this profit, the more people will also take profits. If you can buy the house you never could afford with your profit, should you do it and sell? Many of those who aren't 100% convinced of Bitcoin (and use it to speculate) would answer this question with "yes".

I don't say that a 125k buy would have been categorically wrong. But it was definitely more risky than a buy at 85k. If the market had confirmed the 125k buyers and the price went up, still those who had bought before in the 80k region (e.g. in March 2025 or in 2024) had more profit and less risk. And those who bought at 15k in 2022 won the lottery. That's my point here.

Change is constant,  from all the scenarios it could seem that the biggest crash risk is gone but when something different surfaces, it changes the story line.

This risk of a general trend change is part of the general risk when investing, even in "safer" assets. Even Microsoft could get bankrupt, for example, even if the probability is quite low. But also here: the lower you bought, the lower also the risk. With one exception: if there was already a fundamental change which would impact Bitcoin long term, then it is possible that buying low still can be too high. Such a change however, to my knowledge, has not happened.

I agree about the unrealized losses. That's why I mentioned the time horizon. If you want to hold Bitcoin for decades, you have a reason to buy almost at any price. But even in that case, the risk of a loss due to a long term trend change is still higher when you buy in at high Bitcoin prices.

Unless you believe that Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme that will go to zero, like Peter Schiff and other enlightened individuals, any time is a good time to buy. The longer your time horizon for HODLing, the less it matters when you buy, although obviously dips would be better opportunities. The only problem would be if you don't have a long enough time horizon, because when there is a dip, you won't know if it will continue to fall, no matter how much analysis you do.

As written in my answer to MrBluntzy I agree, but still lower is almost always less risky. We don't know for certain where the long term trend is heading, although the probability is high that it continues to go upwards for some years if adoption progresses further (and Bitcoin, for me personally, does have the characteristics to justify a further price and adoption increase). But still a 35% discount is a 35% discount

When someone is cheap, there is usually a reason. Thats why if you see some cheap stock and you think its a good deal, what usually happens, it keeps falling further and further.

I see where you're coming from, and yes this is the "trend-focused view" I was mentioning.

There are some points in bear markets where you indeed could be tempted to sell because you think "the bull market is over", or "there is something that has changed and Bitcoin will go down now a bit". (There hasn't been really a fundamental change regarding long term adoption potential in the last 15 years, so most of these "reasons" are psychological or related to dubious indicators like the stock market influence.)

However, think about mid 2021. Bitcoin fell almost 50% compared to its 60k high. In all previous bear markets that was an indication for falling even further. But it recovered and hit a new ATH in the same year.

Historically you are better off buying when a new ATH hit rather than a new yearly low.

Time horizon is your friend here again. Those who bought at "early" new lows of course will lose for some time if the downtrend contiues and their time horizon is too short. But those that bought at yearly lows (after a high) would have good returns if they hodl at least 2 years, and if they buy late enough, even much earlier. I have not checked your statement mathematically but for this reason I believe it is not true.

[Bigjoe33]

The lower the price goes, the less risky it is to buy Bitcoins. Is this phrase true?

I believe in general yes, but all depends on your time horizon.

Until now, Bitcoin was always in a long term uptrend. This meant basically that every dip and bear market was an opportunity. While a bull market could be always a trap -- if you bought in at the top, waiting for even more returns, you could lose in the short term.

In general I think those who refused to buy at $125k were not wrong. For many reasons this was a very risky point to buy. The price had been going up for almost 3 years, and historical bull markets were never longer than that.

But is it a good idea to buy now in the 80-90k area?

Yea, surely, at the 80-90k area, it's a good idea to buy, and even keep buying if you have the cash to do so, because when it finally appreciates, which of course it will, though we don't know when, if you were able to Hodl, then you will be Smiling.

And your phrase, I think I would accept that, because, if the price is down, or as the price goes down, the next move we expect is that it may go upwards too, even though it can still Dip after you buy, but there is a high probability that after the Dip periods are over, what next, upwards movement in price, and then gains come in since you bought when it was down or was Dipping.

Though, we can still buy bitcoin at anytime, yea. Even if it was at a high price, investors can still acquire Bitcoin slowly using the DCAstrategy. And when it Dips too, you can buy more aggressively, because it offers more bitcoin due to the low price, but I think everytime is okay to buy, so long as you want to invest in Bitcoin and Hodl for long term.

[Cryptoprincess101]

I want you to understand this, every DIP price was once a high price so if you preoccupy you mind with the idea of buying at DIP prices, it means you will be missing out at buying opportunities. Perhaps, if everyone wants a DIP price, it then means that many people will not buy because there a people who waited for a DIP point, but it never came. Those who didn't buy at $125k is smart but not until they buy at $80k and the price DIP to $50k, only then can they realize that they weren't smart after all. The idea of buying at DIP prices is for short term investors who only care about how to utilize the market trendlines to get some profits. I believe that those who also bought when the price was $125k will be happy when the price hits $200k to $300k, the difference is only the time it will take before it gets to that point.

[Josefjix]

Though, we can still buy bitcoin at anytime, yea. Even if it was at a high price, investors can still acquire Bitcoin slowly using the DCA strategy. And when it Dips too, you can buy more aggressively, because it offers more bitcoin due to the low price, but I think everytime is okay to buy, so long as you want to invest in Bitcoin and Hodl for long term.

Buying at any price either at $124k or $80k never make an investor a looser, what makes an investor a looser is when he sells off his investment due to sudden decrease in price, it's okay to never touch your investment no matter the value at the lower price.

[bhadz]

I continue to DCA even if the market goes a bit higher from $80k. It's all set for me that I'll hold until I can and if it will go for the next cycle and will take me to that, I'd be willing to wait and continue of what I have started. We're investors and whether we buy in the dip, the peak or DCA, what's all matters is the view in the longer term of what we're visioning. It might take time, but this is the slowly but surely approach that's very underrated. People nowadays want to buy and then see the growth in less a day, a week or the shorter period that they can. Bitcoin has been tested by time, even if it plummets a lot, its normal reaction is to recover even how deep it will be.

[Tmoonz]

However, if DCA is done at this time, there will be a mixed opportunity if the market goes up, there will be a possibility of profit. Since I plan to buy from the dip, I am not ready to use DCA at this time, but if invest in the DCA method, it will definitely be risk-free.

Personally I will say if there is even a time to actually try out DCA then it is right now when the market is definitely in a mix trend. Everyone has its strategy and the best of strategy still remains sticking to your own convictions. So I won’t say mine is actually the best of strategy but for me with how the market has been lately behaving I think we might be consolidating for a long period of time before we head up or down ( there is no clear indication of direction for now). As such for me I think you can DCA right now to actually balance it up regardless of the direction, if you are truly interested on dips why not actually go for 50% allocated for DCA while the remaining for dip buying when it actually triggers your target.

Reason why I think most people need to actually use DCA is simply because of the market is currently the
Most unpredictable it has ever been, having bearish sentiment this early in a bull run year isn’t a thing so the question arises that what next happens from here? Would we see more dips like the historical bearish periods or go up from here? I think as someone looking to accumulate more bitcoin DCA is the best option for me.

The question about what next happens from here will never be answered with assurance because what will happen next could either be a surprise or an expected, the reality is that you accept what's in front of you because you don't have the power to control what goes around, most of the time what we thinks about the market doesn't come short and the market has been on side ways reactions and anyone anticipating for more dip before using the buy option could be in danger because it may end up not happening and while DCA seems to be a good practice.

[Oasisman]

Until now, Bitcoin was always in a long term uptrend.

Even now that it seems Bitcoin is dipping, it's still in an uptrend from its inception. Anyone can check monthly or yearly chart to see that.

so buying now and seizing this dip opportunity is the best we can do for ourselves because this is a dip that may never come again.

This is kinda true, based on the records that we have, when Bitcoin hits ATH, those dips that we've seen before it hits new heights, we didn't see them again. I don't know why, but there are still some people who don't fully trust Bitcoin after how many years of a roller coaster ride, but it always ends up reaching new ATH almost every 4-year cycle. Huge corrections always shake up weak hands, thinking it will be the end of Bitcoin, without even realizing that users and its popularity are increasing every year.
So far, when one is doing a regular DCA, especially during the dips, they're never wrong.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

Every good investor or accumulator of the Bitcoin or other crypto currency knows the value of a price dip, mostly when the buyer is still a beginner that have not accumulated enough. The advantage is so enormous that can't be to emphasize except the person lack knowledge of the system, only few buyer will be courageous to buy whenever the market is at ATH though strategy used by accumulator matters but the advantage of dip still cut across all, because the quantity to be purchased will definitely increase when low or dip compared when high which gives lesser quantity.

To argue on the topic against seem much ignorance on how the system works because both the risk and the profit to be a certain can't be same assume the investor enter the purchase in the dip and also enter another in the ATH, the possibility of the market dropping below the actual ATH is possible compared when dip because it can easily goes up from dip than going up at ATH.

[Theupdude]

The fact is, the cheaper the price, the less risk, but that is not all. The cheaper the Bitcoin the more likely people believe it to be a discount and then the long term question is how long you are willing to hold on to it and how much you can withstand psychologically. Personally, I believe that 80 or 85 is not a bad price since the risk is certainly less than 110 or 125. It cannot be a certainty though. Bitcoin is a game that is highly dependent on mental strength because it occasionally plummets and soars to high levels.


The other factor is that individuals tend to be separated into two categories. One group believes that it is all a bubble, the other group believes that it is kind of a lottery to enter the market. In fact, it is somewhere between the two. Biblically, there is fortune and the remainder is concerning time. In case you wish to sell in a year, then the risk is high. In case you wish to hold it in five years or more, the risk is minimised. Personally, I do not support the concept of putting all the money on a single price. When you purchase a few, the market turns become not as straining to your head and you are not shoved around by the market changes.

[wiss19]

Will you still have this same view or opinion if Bitcoin price was currently selling for $200k today?

You're of course correct that it's easy to make statements after the event Myself for example I expected a leg to 130-150k, which didn't happen until now.

To be fair, I do not expect it to go to 130-150 anymore, I expected it to do that but it failed. I can sort of understand 150k, that was a bit higher, but I really do not understand this 130k thing, we were soı close and out of nowhere we stopped and went reverse and back to bear market. No idea why that is happening, it makes no sense to me and I think it should be doing fine. It is a terrible period, and if we can get avoidance of this, it would be a lot better and we can do a lot better.

Today we have seen some recovery of bitcoin prices up to 91k which must be a good sign still chances of new ATH is very slim. Hopefully we can get a better approach to the market in next month and bulls may come back by the times of new year as well.

[d5000]

Perhaps, if everyone wants a DIP price, it then means that many people will not buy because there a people who waited for a DIP point, but it never came. Those who didn't buy at $125k is smart but not until they buy at $80k and the price DIP to $50k, only then can they realize that they weren't smart after all.

What I want to clarify is that for me it is a gradual thing. Not that you have to pick the bottom of a dip. For example, if you bought at 100k, and then it dipped to 80k, you are still having less risk than if you were buying at 125k.

Perhaps for me the best way to quantify the risk is to look at the length of the last "bullish leg". In our current case, it started at ~15.5k in late 2022. The risk is lowest at the start of this leg.

When the price increases, then many think that it becomes better to invest because they see a clear trend ("the trend is your friend"). But the truth is that if you were buying in the bear market at 25k before the 15k bottom, you had still a better price than if you bought in the bull market at 50k or so.

There is however one catch I think I already mentioned: When the fundamentals change, then there may be buying opportunities at higher prices. An example is the ETF approval in late 2023. As this opened Bitcoin for new buyers, the risk at the moment of the purchase lowered compared to buying inmediately before at $30k, even if the price increased to 40-45k fastly.

[Silikiem]

However, if DCA is done at this time, there will be a mixed opportunity if the market goes up, there will be a possibility of profit. Since I plan to buy from the dip, I am not ready to use DCA at this time, but if invest in the DCA method, it will definitely be risk-free.

Personally I will say if there is even a time to actually try out DCA then it is right now when the market is definitely in a mix trend. Everyone has its strategy and the best of strategy still remains sticking to your own convictions. So I won’t say mine is actually the best of strategy but for me with how the market has been lately behaving I think we might be consolidating for a long period of time before we head up or down ( there is no clear indication of direction for now). As such for me I think you can DCA right now to actually balance it up regardless of the direction, if you are truly interested on dips why not actually go for 50% allocated for DCA while the remaining for dip buying when it actually triggers your target.

Reason why I think most people need to actually use DCA is simply because of the market is currently the
Most unpredictable it has ever been, having bearish sentiment this early in a bull run year isn’t a thing so the question arises that what next happens from here? Would we see more dips like the historical bearish periods or go up from here? I think as someone looking to accumulate more bitcoin DCA is the best option for me.

The question about what next happens from here will never be answered with assurance because what will happen next could either be a surprise or an expected, the reality is that you accept what's in front of you because you don't have the power to control what goes around, most of the time what we thinks about the market doesn't come short and the market has been on side ways reactions and anyone anticipating for more dip before using the buy option could be in danger because it may end up not happening and while DCA seems to be a good practice.

When you’re already in an ongoing DCA, you have the opportunity and freedom to be able to mix and blend with other buying patterns, most dependent on individual income level. The DCA is widely regarded as the best strategy as it accommodates both low income or high income earners where by whenever they’re able to figure out a discretionary income they are able to accumulate and invest in bitcoin and along the line if an extra income comes in then nothing stops them from Lump summing and also if the dip comes around they have the freedom to accumulate even more at a reduced price.

[Y3shot]

In general I think those who refused to buy at $125k were not wrong. For many reasons this was a very risky point to buy. The price had been going up for almost 3 years, and historical bull markets were never longer than that.

But not all are genuine. Some who do not intend to buy at the price of $125k, even if the price falls, will still give reasons not to buy Bitcoin, thinking the price will dip further. Their problem is whether the price of Bitcoin will dip more than it already has. But I know there are still genuine investors who choose not to buy Bitcoin when the price is high; instead, when the price falls, they see it as an opportunity to buy more Bitcoin. Buying Bitcoin at a very high price can be risky for some people, especially when the bull market is about to come to an end. Still, some people buy high and hodl, and still make a profit from it. However, anyone who chooses to wait for the dip to buy Bitcoin, as long as the person is genuinely intending to buy during the dip, has no problem with that. The problem people face when trying to buy during the dip, which keeps them waiting, is waiting for the right dip.

[Akaenyi]

I very much agree that the lower the price goes the less risky to buy Bitcoin but the question is how do we know how low price will dip at anytime. If we cannot accurately answer this question it means that we can buy when we have funds to buy. At the price you buy Bitcoin now will become dip sooner or later so why wait for the perfect buying opportunity that you don't know when or if it can happen at your expectation.

If every investors are sure that in the next few days Bitcoin will dip 30% from it's current price we will all relax and wait. The reality is that we don't know that is why I prefer DCA method of buying, I believe that Bitcoin will continue to reach ATH and give me profit.

[buwaytress]

- 80k is in my opinion a quite decent buying price. It is not free of risks. But much less risky than buying at >110k was.
- If you don't want to gamble that much, DCA is always a good option too. And if you didn't DCA in the "bubble phase" over 100k, perhaps now is a good moment to begin.

I'm with you. In fact, had you bought it then, you'd already be taking in 10% -- something I think the scalpers will be actively doing now, and we might see several more falls to 80k shortly before 90k resurgence. It's not quite the 100k mindblock, scalper territory.

If you're DCA-ish like I practically am, then you're mildly happy to get >1mbtc for $100... which, if all things happen normally, should bring in a decent haul once ATH happens again in a few years.

No real logical thinking there, just DCA attitutde.

[Lida93]

Perhaps, if everyone wants a DIP price, it then means that many people will not buy because there a people who waited for a DIP point, but it never came. Those who didn't buy at $125k is smart but not until they buy at $80k and the price DIP to $50k, only then can they realize that they weren't smart after all.

What I want to clarify is that for me it is a gradual thing. Not that you have to pick the bottom of a dip. For example, if you bought at 100k, and then it dipped to 80k, you are still having less risk than if you were buying at 125k.

I think Cryptoprincess101 isn't understanding about all of what the op was laying emphasis on, and I hope am not wrong that it's something about the risk to price movement because it up or down base on the different prices we respectively bought. For example, if I bought at $85k, the loss risk I would be facing if bitcoin price falls to $60k would be much different for someone else who bought at $100k.
For the both individuals their break-even would definitely be different when price starts to recover.

However, everyone  would not have to wait for the dip before they buy, which brings the DCA strategy into the equation as the best method for bitcoin stacking as you wouldn't have to miss buying in any price dip in as much as you probably buy in price rising times too.