NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs

[CECVW]

To all those who are complaining not having received a stake due to being marked as socks:

We had more then 2800 people who wanted a stake. I think everyone agrees that among those people there were many socks. So we had to act.
When deciding who will get a stake a who not, we had to find a compromise between being too lenient and too strict, the former leading to many socks getting a stake which is unfair to the ones that complied to the rules and the latter leading to many non socks getting no stake which is again unfair for obvious reasons.

But no matter how much effort our team put into the analysis, having so many cases which are unclear always results in some cases where a sock gets a stake and some cases where a non sock doesn't get a stake. Any other team would have faced the same problems. So if you didn't get your stake although you deserved one I am sorry for that, we could not avoid some misjudgements during the cleaning process. I do understand that in this case you are dissappointed/frustrated/angry. But that's life and there will never be 100% fairness anywhere. The decisions we made are final. I think the vast majority of the community will agree that we have to move on.

First of all thank you very much for your help and resolving my case so quick where other would not be able to see what was the problem, but I have to disagree with your following sentence ''So if you didn't get your stake although you deserved one I am sorry for that, we could not avoid some misjudgment during the cleaning process'' That is utterly wrong, if someone has been sent to jail by someone misjudgment we are sorry you are condemned to be in jail regardless if you are innocent. You can not avoid your responsibility and I don't want either be selfish and now that my case is resolved not to care about other people who deserved and are the right owner of their stake because of Makoto misjudgment.

[samysamy1]

I'm asking myself the causes of such an interest in NEM stakes now that redemption has ended.

Price going up?

Rumors?

I heard something about China buying Xem.

[yshin365new]

Dear sock puppet holders.
Please don't be so aggrieved for losing your(?) stakes.
You have thousands of reasons, but the important thing is that you have broken the rule - 1 stake per 1 peron.
Most person understood it means '1 stake per i IP address', because anyone can make several ID for his own, and NEM team member can not visit their house to count their heads one by one.
It's a common sense.
My family all wanted to participated in NEM, too.
But, because we use the same IP address, only i could participate in NEM.
You just lost only small grain of money at funding time.
But you took away the opportunity of particupating in NEM from other persons.
So, please not only claim your right, but also feel sorry for them.
If you like NEM still, the best thing is 'Buy NEM NOW'.

[NEMergizer]

I'm asking myself the causes of such an interest in NEM stakes now that redemption has ended.

Price going up?

Rumors?

I heard something about China buying Xem.

Something big is coming pretty soon. Those who know what is coming are buying like crazy. Those who have no clue about the coming news are wondering why the price is going up! So defiantly you don't know what is coming next and neither do I. But I can speculate that something big is coming and there is a huge interest in keeping the price low to buy every single possible cheap XEM before the huge news get published. Again these are all speculations. I might be wrong, anyways we will see in few days

[nzminer]

I'm asking myself the causes of such an interest in NEM stakes now that redemption has ended.

Price going up?

Rumors?

I heard something about China buying Xem.

just people panic buying again! 

[yshin365new]

I'm asking myself the causes of such an interest in NEM stakes now that redemption has ended.

Price going up?

Rumors?

I heard something about China buying Xem.

Something big is coming pretty soon. Those who know what is coming are buying like crazy. Those who have no clue about the coming news are wondering why the price is going up! So defiantly you don't know what is coming next and neither do I. But I can speculate that something big is coming and there is a huge interest in keeping the price low to buy every single possible cheap XEM before the huge news get published. Again these are all speculations. I might be wrong, anyways we will see in few days

My crystal ball says that something magnificent is coming sooooooooon in NEM.

[jabo38]

I'm asking myself the causes of such an interest in NEM stakes now that redemption has ended.

Price going up?

Rumors?

I heard something about China buying Xem.

Something big is coming pretty soon. Those who know what is coming are buying like crazy. Those who have no clue about the coming news are wondering why the price is going up! So defiantly you don't know what is coming next and neither do I. But I can speculate that something big is coming and there is a huge interest in keeping the price low to buy every single possible cheap XEM before the huge news get published. Again these are all speculations. I might be wrong, anyways we will see in few days

Part of it might be that distribution ended too. There were a lot of people that really wanted to buy but were afraid to buy while the release of sock puppets. The fear was that a batch would be released and somebody would dump hard crashing the price. And honestly with each batch that was released their were always a few stakes that immediately went to the exchanges. So those freshly released XEM kept on pushing the price down. But..... Now there are no more stakes getting dumped. And people that were waiting to buy are buying.

China was especially nervous because some of the biggest sock masters were coming out of China. But now that distribution is over and all the people that were going to dump the moment they got stakes have dumped there is a green flag to buy.

Then again it could be that people are realizing NEM is awesome and clearly was designed be devs that took a long time but had a big plan. NEM has managed a long string of pretty big firsts, firsts that at conference's bitcoin devs are standing up saying "someday......" When actually they are describing the NEM feature set in the very near future.  All at a time when the financial world has woken up and wants to use th blockchain for their services. It's no wonder makoto got VC money and they possibilities for more is pretty good.

The world is getting serious about blockchains and real soon NEM will offer solutions that can only be found here.

http://www.coindesk.com/survey-47-of-finance-pros-say-firms-exploring-blockchain-tech/

[xeman34]

I'm asking myself the causes of such an interest in NEM stakes now that redemption has ended.

Price going up?

Rumors?

I heard something about China buying Xem.

Something big is coming pretty soon. Those who know what is coming are buying like crazy. Those who have no clue about the coming news are wondering why the price is going up! So defiantly you don't know what is coming next and neither do I. But I can speculate that something big is coming and there is a huge interest in keeping the price low to buy every single possible cheap XEM before the huge news get published. Again these are all speculations. I might be wrong, anyways we will see in few days

My crystal ball says that something magnificent is coming sooooooooon in NEM.

LOL keep smoking that hopium

[Porte]

Dear sock puppet holders.
Please don't be so aggrieved for losing your(?) stakes.
You have thousands of reasons, but the important thing is that you have broken the rule - 1 stake per 1 peron.
Most person understood it means '1 stake per i IP address', because anyone can make several ID for his own, and NEM team member can not visit their house to count their heads one by one.
It's a common sense.
My family all wanted to participated in NEM, too.
But, because we use the same IP address, only i could participate in NEM.
You just lost only small grain of money at funding time.
But you took away the opportunity of particupating in NEM from other persons.
So, please not only claim your right, but also feel sorry for them.
If you like NEM still, the best thing is 'Buy NEM NOW'.

+1

Very sad remarks and selfish. It seems you were a sock puppet that managed to get away with 10 stakes and now don't give a damn about the rest even if they are not sock puppets like you. Very selfish cheap speech indeed. You sound to me like the real selfish sock puppet

[dannac]

Dear sock puppet holders.
Please don't be so aggrieved for losing your(?) stakes.
You have thousands of reasons, but the important thing is that you have broken the rule - 1 stake per 1 peron.
Most person understood it means '1 stake per i IP address', because anyone can make several ID for his own, and NEM team member can not visit their house to count their heads one by one.
It's a common sense.
My family all wanted to participated in NEM, too.
But, because we use the same IP address, only i could participate in NEM.
You just lost only small grain of money at funding time.
But you took away the opportunity of particupating in NEM from other persons.
So, please not only claim your right, but also feel sorry for them.
If you like NEM still, the best thing is 'Buy NEM NOW'.

Sorry but I have to disagree.
That simply doesn't make sense to me.
Or at least, not in a contest where fairness is a recurring word.
What about if you didn't brake any rule ? And you genuine ?
The rule at the beginning should say: 1 stake per 1 crew, or 1 stake per 1 house, or 1 stake per 1 office, or 1 stake per 1 unit, and keep going...
But no, the rule said: 1 stake per 1 person.... it didn't say "don't share any IP" not now and not in the future until distribution , for any reason, or you will be banned for ever.
That would have given a better idea of what NEM actually is... so understandable why didn't happen  
BTW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CONFISCATED SOCKPUPPETS STAKES ?
WHAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED TO DO WITH THAT ?
Are the Devs Pockets full enough now ?

At the end:
NEM IT'S THEIR TOY. DEVS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT.
NO SURPRISE THEY'RE ACTING IN THIS WAY.
IT'S JUST UP TO US STOPPING PLAY WITH THEIR TOY, AND SEE IF THEY'LL STILL HAVE FUN.
I'M HAVING MORE FUN NOW THEN BEFORE WHEN I WAS WAITING MAKOTO LET ME PLAY WITH HIS TOY.  

[Porte]

Dear sock puppet holders.
Please don't be so aggrieved for losing your(?) stakes.
You have thousands of reasons, but the important thing is that you have broken the rule - 1 stake per 1 peron.
Most person understood it means '1 stake per i IP address', because anyone can make several ID for his own, and NEM team member can not visit their house to count their heads one by one.
It's a common sense.
My family all wanted to participated in NEM, too.
But, because we use the same IP address, only i could participate in NEM.
You just lost only small grain of money at funding time.
But you took away the opportunity of particupating in NEM from other persons.
So, please not only claim your right, but also feel sorry for them.
If you like NEM still, the best thing is 'Buy NEM NOW'.

Sorry but I have to disagree.
That simply doesn't make sense to me.
Or at least, not in a contest where fairness is a recurring word.
What about if you didn't brake any rule ? And you genuine ?
The rule at the beginning should say: 1 stake per 1 crew, or 1 stake per 1 house, or 1 stake per 1 office, or 1 stake per 1 unit, and keep going...
But no, the rule said: 1 stake per 1 person.... it didn't say "don't share any IP" not now and not in the future until distribution , for any reason, or you will be banned for ever.
That would have given a better idea of what NEM actually is... so understandable why didn't happen  
BTW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CONFISCATED SOCKPUPPETS STAKES ?
WHAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED TO DO WITH THAT ?
Are the Devs Pockets full enough now ?

At the end:
NEM IT'S THEIR TOY. DEVS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT.
NO SURPRISE THEY'RE ACTING IN THIS WAY.
IT'S JUST UP TO US STOPPING PLAY WITH THEIR TOY, AND SEE IF THEY'LL STILL HAVE FUN.
I'M HAVING MORE FUN NOW THEN BEFORE WHEN I WAS WAITING MAKOTO LET ME PLAY WITH HIS TOY.  

You are right in a way but either your approach or yshin365new are opposite and  wrong. Cases should be treated with fairness and the cases that Makoto did not deal correctly needs to be look at with justice, my feeling some of the cases Makoto did not take look at it at and passed by and this need to be revised urgently in the next few days by someone else and responding to them in a timely manner and with  answers and not ignoring for months till the last few days. This is what I have seen by reading the complains

[Jamthirteen]

Dear sock puppet holders.
Please don't be so aggrieved for losing your(?) stakes.
You have thousands of reasons, but the important thing is that you have broken the rule - 1 stake per 1 peron.
Most person understood it means '1 stake per i IP address', because anyone can make several ID for his own, and NEM team member can not visit their house to count their heads one by one.
It's a common sense.
My family all wanted to participated in NEM, too.
But, because we use the same IP address, only i could participate in NEM.
You just lost only small grain of money at funding time.
But you took away the opportunity of particupating in NEM from other persons.
So, please not only claim your right, but also feel sorry for them.
If you like NEM still, the best thing is 'Buy NEM NOW'.

Sorry but I have to disagree.
That simply doesn't make sense to me.
Or at least, not in a contest where fairness is a recurring word.
What about if you didn't brake any rule ? And you genuine ?
The rule at the beginning should say: 1 stake per 1 crew, or 1 stake per 1 house, or 1 stake per 1 office, or 1 stake per 1 unit, and keep going...
But no, the rule said: 1 stake per 1 person.... it didn't say "don't share any IP" not now and not in the future until distribution , for any reason, or you will be banned for ever.
That would have given a better idea of what NEM actually is... so understandable why didn't happen  
BTW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CONFISCATED SOCKPUPPETS STAKES ?
WHAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED TO DO WITH THAT ?
Are the Devs Pockets full enough now ?

At the end:
NEM IT'S THEIR TOY. DEVS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT.
NO SURPRISE THEY'RE ACTING IN THIS WAY.
IT'S JUST UP TO US STOPPING PLAY WITH THEIR TOY, AND SEE IF THEY'LL STILL HAVE FUN.
I'M HAVING MORE FUN NOW THEN BEFORE WHEN I WAS WAITING MAKOTO LET ME PLAY WITH HIS TOY.  

You are right in a way but either your approach or yshin365new are opposite and  wrong. Cases should be treated with fairness and the cases that Makoto did not deal correctly needs to be look at with justice, my feeling some of the cases Makoto did not take look at it at and passed by and this need to be revised urgently in the next few days by someone else and responding to them in a timely manner and with  answers and not ignoring for months till the last few days. This is what I have seen by reading the complains

This is what happened to me, Please can someone look at my case.

[dannac]

Dear sock puppet holders.
Please don't be so aggrieved for losing your(?) stakes.
You have thousands of reasons, but the important thing is that you have broken the rule - 1 stake per 1 peron.
Most person understood it means '1 stake per i IP address', because anyone can make several ID for his own, and NEM team member can not visit their house to count their heads one by one.
It's a common sense.
My family all wanted to participated in NEM, too.
But, because we use the same IP address, only i could participate in NEM.
You just lost only small grain of money at funding time.
But you took away the opportunity of particupating in NEM from other persons.
So, please not only claim your right, but also feel sorry for them.
If you like NEM still, the best thing is 'Buy NEM NOW'.

Sorry but I have to disagree.
That simply doesn't make sense to me.
Or at least, not in a contest where fairness is a recurring word.
What about if you didn't brake any rule ? And you genuine ?
The rule at the beginning should say: 1 stake per 1 crew, or 1 stake per 1 house, or 1 stake per 1 office, or 1 stake per 1 unit, and keep going...
But no, the rule said: 1 stake per 1 person.... it didn't say "don't share any IP" not now and not in the future until distribution , for any reason, or you will be banned for ever.
That would have given a better idea of what NEM actually is... so understandable why didn't happen  
BTW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CONFISCATED SOCKPUPPETS STAKES ?
WHAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED TO DO WITH THAT ?
Are the Devs Pockets full enough now ?

At the end:
NEM IT'S THEIR TOY. DEVS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT.
NO SURPRISE THEY'RE ACTING IN THIS WAY.
IT'S JUST UP TO US STOPPING PLAY WITH THEIR TOY, AND SEE IF THEY'LL STILL HAVE FUN.
I'M HAVING MORE FUN NOW THEN BEFORE WHEN I WAS WAITING MAKOTO LET ME PLAY WITH HIS TOY.  

You are right in a way but either your approach or yshin365new are opposite and  wrong. Cases should be treated with fairness and the cases that Makoto did not deal correctly needs to be look at with justice, my feeling some of the cases Makoto did not take look at it at and passed by and this need to be revised urgently in the next few days by someone else and responding to them in a timely manner and with  answers and not ignoring for months till the last few days. This is what I have seen by reading the complains

I know what you mean when you refer to the wrong approach.
But trust me, w've been quite e polite for more then a year... and that time is over.
How would you react to so great arrogance from Makoto & Co. ??
We've got no replies or just very vague indications for months, no clarifications... and eventually you discover that you will not get what you think you deserve.

[Jamthirteen]

Dear sock puppet holders.
Please don't be so aggrieved for losing your(?) stakes.
You have thousands of reasons, but the important thing is that you have broken the rule - 1 stake per 1 peron.
Most person understood it means '1 stake per i IP address', because anyone can make several ID for his own, and NEM team member can not visit their house to count their heads one by one.
It's a common sense.
My family all wanted to participated in NEM, too.
But, because we use the same IP address, only i could participate in NEM.
You just lost only small grain of money at funding time.
But you took away the opportunity of particupating in NEM from other persons.
So, please not only claim your right, but also feel sorry for them.
If you like NEM still, the best thing is 'Buy NEM NOW'.

Sorry but I have to disagree.
That simply doesn't make sense to me.
Or at least, not in a contest where fairness is a recurring word.
What about if you didn't brake any rule ? And you genuine ?
The rule at the beginning should say: 1 stake per 1 crew, or 1 stake per 1 house, or 1 stake per 1 office, or 1 stake per 1 unit, and keep going...
But no, the rule said: 1 stake per 1 person.... it didn't say "don't share any IP" not now and not in the future until distribution , for any reason, or you will be banned for ever.
That would have given a better idea of what NEM actually is... so understandable why didn't happen  
BTW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CONFISCATED SOCKPUPPETS STAKES ?
WHAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED TO DO WITH THAT ?
Are the Devs Pockets full enough now ?

At the end:
NEM IT'S THEIR TOY. DEVS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT.
NO SURPRISE THEY'RE ACTING IN THIS WAY.
IT'S JUST UP TO US STOPPING PLAY WITH THEIR TOY, AND SEE IF THEY'LL STILL HAVE FUN.
I'M HAVING MORE FUN NOW THEN BEFORE WHEN I WAS WAITING MAKOTO LET ME PLAY WITH HIS TOY.  

You are right in a way but either your approach or yshin365new are opposite and  wrong. Cases should be treated with fairness and the cases that Makoto did not deal correctly needs to be look at with justice, my feeling some of the cases Makoto did not take look at it at and passed by and this need to be revised urgently in the next few days by someone else and responding to them in a timely manner and with  answers and not ignoring for months till the last few days. This is what I have seen by reading the complains

I know what you mean when you refer to the wrong approach.
But trust me, w've been quite e polite for more then a year... and that time is over.
How would you react to so great arrogance from Makoto & Co. ??
We've got no replies or just very vague indications for months, no clarifications... and eventually you discover that you will not get what you think you deserve.

 we know that makoto did not do a great job in handling lots of cases and they need to revise this if not will hunt them forever. I dont like what I see and I like the best for NEM but we are all a community and we should not let the innocent people out like me suffer they way he managed this, you need to open a different thread and give the chance  to real few cases that has been let down/neglected by Makoto

[Porte]

Dear sock puppet holders.
Please don't be so aggrieved for losing your(?) stakes.
You have thousands of reasons, but the important thing is that you have broken the rule - 1 stake per 1 peron.
Most person understood it means '1 stake per i IP address', because anyone can make several ID for his own, and NEM team member can not visit their house to count their heads one by one.
It's a common sense.
My family all wanted to participated in NEM, too.
But, because we use the same IP address, only i could participate in NEM.
You just lost only small grain of money at funding time.
But you took away the opportunity of particupating in NEM from other persons.
So, please not only claim your right, but also feel sorry for them.
If you like NEM still, the best thing is 'Buy NEM NOW'.

Sorry but I have to disagree.
That simply doesn't make sense to me.
Or at least, not in a contest where fairness is a recurring word.
What about if you didn't brake any rule ? And you genuine ?
The rule at the beginning should say: 1 stake per 1 crew, or 1 stake per 1 house, or 1 stake per 1 office, or 1 stake per 1 unit, and keep going...
But no, the rule said: 1 stake per 1 person.... it didn't say "don't share any IP" not now and not in the future until distribution , for any reason, or you will be banned for ever.
That would have given a better idea of what NEM actually is... so understandable why didn't happen  
BTW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CONFISCATED SOCKPUPPETS STAKES ?
WHAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED TO DO WITH THAT ?
Are the Devs Pockets full enough now ?

At the end:
NEM IT'S THEIR TOY. DEVS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT.
NO SURPRISE THEY'RE ACTING IN THIS WAY.
IT'S JUST UP TO US STOPPING PLAY WITH THEIR TOY, AND SEE IF THEY'LL STILL HAVE FUN.
I'M HAVING MORE FUN NOW THEN BEFORE WHEN I WAS WAITING MAKOTO LET ME PLAY WITH HIS TOY.  

You are right in a way but either your approach or yshin365new are opposite and  wrong. Cases should be treated with fairness and the cases that Makoto did not deal correctly needs to be look at with justice, my feeling some of the cases Makoto did not take look at it at and passed by and this need to be revised urgently in the next few days by someone else and responding to them in a timely manner and with  answers and not ignoring for months till the last few days. This is what I have seen by reading the complains

I know what you mean when you refer to the wrong approach.
But trust me, w've been quite e polite for more then a year... and that time is over.
How would you react to so great arrogance from Makoto & Co. ??
We've got no replies or just very vague indications for months, no clarifications... and eventually you discover that you will not get what you think you deserve.

 we know that makoto did not do a great job in handling lots of cases and they need to revise this if not will hunt them forever. I dont like what I see and I like the best for NEM but we are all a community and we should not let the innocent people out like me suffer they way he managed this, you need to open a different thread and give the chance  to real few cases that has been let down/neglected by Makoto

Can these few cases been revised by someone else

[choochimil]

I have little faith in the sock process. It appears I have been linked with other accounts that in reality I have nothing to do with. I would really like my stake, I paid my fee to get on the list, I have waited patiently for a year and a half, I have followed all the redemption steps. I lived in dorm accommodation in 2013 and frequently used shared computers on campus. I also use privateinternetaccess on my laptop. Presumably there were others at the same school or who use the same proxy service who registered for nem. Is that my fault?

[BigSirko]

Why is it there is always these people who claimed it was IP based?  Granted they did look at IP but this sounds like one sock master beating his drum on his socks.  Besides IP detection is worthless because to get a new IP, at most ISPs, all you have to do is unplug the cable box. Granted they could had discriminated against ISPs but as it turns out many Bitcoiners come from a few hubs and you were bound to have coincidences.  You can imagine a scenario where many people from San Francisco / New York, Vancouver / Toronto, Amsterdam and Beijing / Hong Kong would be on the same ISP.



https://panopticlick.eff.org/

Patmast3r's analysis was a fingerprint detection, similar to the above URL.  That wasn't the one he used but it is an example of what they look for.


My results on that website indicate for someone to have the exact same setting as me is 1 in 40,736,283,289,620,145,920 - 40 quintillion.
  Meaning I have better odds at winning the lottery (several times) than meeting someone with the exact same configuration.  Conclusion:  if you got clustered with someone else and proclaimed innocence then you're in the wrong field.  You should be going to the local convenience store and should be buying powerball lottery tickets with your luck.

[BitcoinForumator]

I'm asking myself the causes of such an interest in NEM stakes now that redemption has ended.

Price going up?

Rumors?

FOMO

[tyz]

i do not think so. the upwards trend is pretty stable since over a week. i think some new investors see the potential of nem.

Some nice activity on poloniex. Things are looking up.

i believe that this is only some pump and dump. 

[Is Oprah Fuckable?]

Why is it there is always these people who claimed it was IP based?  Granted they did look at IP but this sounds like one sock master beating his drum on his socks.  Besides IP detection is worthless because to get a new IP, at most ISPs, all you have to do is unplug the cable box. Granted they could had discriminated against ISPs but as it turns out many Bitcoiners come from a few hubs and you were bound to have coincidences.  You can imagine a scenario where many people from San Francisco / New York, Vancouver / Toronto, Amsterdam and Beijing / Hong Kong would be on the same ISP.



https://panopticlick.eff.org/

Patmast3r's analysis was a fingerprint detection, similar to the above URL.  That wasn't the one he used but it is an example of what they look for.


My results on that website indicate for someone to have the exact same setting as me is 1 in 40,736,283,289,620,145,920 - 40 quintillion.
  Meaning I have better odds at winning the lottery (several times) than meeting someone with the exact same configuration.  Conclusion:  if you got clustered with someone else and proclaimed innocence then you're in the wrong field.  You should be going to the local convenience store and should be buying powerball lottery tickets with your luck.

I tend to agree with your analysis. The only way to beat the NEM sock analysis would have been to spread your post count around over all your socks for the last 12 months. I'd say makoto had a set post count that he was looking for, and if you didn't meet that count the above type of fingerprinting got you booted. Harsh but rational. It does mean that some socks made it through, but they had to be fairly committed over a long period of time, swapping and changing accounts when posting to appear as multiple people, so we can conclude that they really wanted their sock stakes, and might prove good NEMsters

Getting socks through NEM ended up being like drug mules getting through customs. The mules who get busted with the bags of white powder in their luggage next to their undies are probably telling the truth, 'someone else put it there', real mules take precautions not to get caught, and swallow condoms full of drugs. I suspect some of these people complaining with 5 posts over a year are genuine, and some NEM socks have post counts in the 100's today, so the socks became laundered over 2014/15.

NEM socks will be a great chapter in a book one day! I think the NEM dev team did their best with the balls up utopianfuture left after he made all the rules up on the run in January 2014.

To all the genuine socks, I feel for you!! NEM will one day be worth a lot, so buy as much as you can asap, and NEM will probably change your life for the better anyway.