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July 28, 2015, 10:04:04 AM
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I was finally able to get NIS to work by changing the host from TPol.nemtrader.com to niss.ga  , is this safe to do?

Also I have a question for delegated harvesting.  I had delegated harvesting set up on April 1st for my nemstake, but it hasn't harvested a single block yet(not sure if its because I didnt click start delegate harvesting?, but i think i did).  Should I use this same address for delegated harvesting, or deactivate and activate a new one?

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niss.ga is behind about hundred blocks, so you won't be able to harvest a valid block on that node. Try some other node. Choose a node that is up to date with both version and blocks. Choose a node that has a good ping to your location.

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July 28, 2015, 12:36:40 PM
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fork ahead...
just your friendly reminder.  please update those nodes.  http://nem.io/install.html

Thank you for info. New version looking and working very goood

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July 28, 2015, 02:17:00 PM
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My last comment on the sock puppet story:
BloodyRookie explained it already very good. There is no 100% fairness if you don't have 100% of the needed information. Thus, compromises had to be accepted. Everybody with an IQ above 60 will understand this.

I feel sorry for all the people who lost a stake because of a false-positive analysis result (wrongly classified as sock).
I also feel sorry for all stakeholders because of false-negative analysis results (wrongly NOT classified as socks), because this makes the NEM distribution a little bit poorer and therefore all stakeholders suffer from it.

There are just two things left to say to the people who lost a stake because of a false-positive:
1) Don't blame the people who worked hard to find the best solution for everybody, and please understand that the best solution for YOU is not the best solution for all stakeholders (overall distribution...).
2) If you are convinced that NEM is good technology, bite the bullet and buy another amount of NEM. I know it sucks, but you lost 1 NEM stake (right now about USD 400) because of the fact that there are a lot of scammers and the whole process (sock analysis) was needed with all the known downsides. But if NEM gets big and a stake is worth a lot more some time in the future, you wont care too much about USD 400, right?
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July 28, 2015, 02:36:29 PM
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My last comment on the sock puppet story:
BloodyRookie explained it already very good. There is no 100% fairness if you don't have 100% of the needed information. Thus, compromises had to be accepted. Everybody with an IQ above 60 will understand this.

I feel sorry for all the people who lost a stake because of a false-positive analysis result (wrongly classified as sock).
I also feel sorry for all stakeholders because of false-negative analysis results (wrongly NOT classified as socks), because this makes the NEM distribution a little bit poorer and therefore all stakeholders suffer from it.

Did those false-positive accounts had any chance to prove their identity or something?
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July 28, 2015, 03:12:15 PM
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? Huh

1XEM = 10-100USD

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My last comment on the sock puppet story:
BloodyRookie explained it already very good. There is no 100% fairness if you don't have 100% of the needed information. Thus, compromises had to be accepted. Everybody with an IQ above 60 will understand this.

I feel sorry for all the people who lost a stake because of a false-positive analysis result (wrongly classified as sock).
I also feel sorry for all stakeholders because of false-negative analysis results (wrongly NOT classified as socks), because this makes the NEM distribution a little bit poorer and therefore all stakeholders suffer from it.

Did those false-positive accounts had any chance to prove their identity or something?

No, Unfortunately they didn't.
Because NEM is not synonymous of Fairness.
Otherwise, how could these NEM stakes go into the Head pockets if analysis was fair ?  Wink
Whoever offered is availability to show any proof of identity didn't get reply from Patmast3r before, and Makoto after...
Think about, how hard was  try to spend just a bit more time to let people explain their reasons.... How often we use a shared internet connection (Office, Home..) that has been the most common reason why accounts have been flagged as socks puppets  (same IP for different accounts) ?
Try to ask Devs to tell you which Multisig Address holds all the Sockpuppets Stakes, and tell me if you will get answer from them.
Read the previous 6-7 pages and you will better understand.
There must be a reason why on SuperNET they have their own idea about NEM. And there you will find THE devs.
Hope this helps you to don't believe in NEM.
I cannot say more, otherwise I would be a Troll.
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July 28, 2015, 03:59:11 PM
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? Huh

1XEM = 10-100USD

 Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
yeah.....
And potentially the world could finish tomorrow.
Same chance to get what you said. Aahahahahhahahahahah....
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July 28, 2015, 03:59:50 PM
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? Huh

If the currency is as good as the blockchain then it's probably the best. If it becomes the reserve currency then something around 10 000 dollars per 1 XEM in today's values. 1 dollar per XEM would do me though.

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July 28, 2015, 04:11:19 PM
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? Huh

If the currency is as good as the blockchain then it's probably the best. If it becomes the reserve currency then something around 10 000 dollars per 1 XEM in today's values. 1 dollar per XEM would do me though.

Awesome  Smiley yeah 1 dollar would be nice, I am not too greedy  Cheesy

Well that would mean 9 billion marketcap. BTC went to over 12 billion marketcap and honestly , BTC has nowhere near the pedigree of NEM. These are still early days........people , don't listen to that loser dannac.....get yourselves some XEM.

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July 28, 2015, 04:21:24 PM
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? Huh

If the currency is as good as the blockchain then it's probably the best. If it becomes the reserve currency then something around 10 000 dollars per 1 XEM in today's values. 1 dollar per XEM would do me though.

Awesome  Smiley yeah 1 dollar would be nice, I am not too greedy  Cheesy

Well that would mean 9 billion marketcap. BTC went to over 12 billion marketcap and honestly , BTC has nowhere near the pedigree of NEM. These are still early days........people , don't listen to that loser dannac.....get yourselves some XEM.

Having NEM stake (as I do) doesn't mean that you have to convince everyone NEM is the elixir of the Crypto...
But if you want me to do that:  yeah people Buy XEM !!! XEM for everyone !!!!!
We don't want Makoto going back and getting a real proper job again, like a looser !!! Don't wait, buy your XEM !!!! Please  !!!!  Grin  Grin  Grin
So, don't get informed, don't ask anything. Just buy XEM ! Trust the Devs.
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July 28, 2015, 04:23:59 PM
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@dannac you already know that you're trolling otherwise you wouldn't even mention it.
By the way I and probably many others thought you might be a genuine case, but at the end you proved yourself to be 100% a sockpuppet and have gotten two stakes from makoto. You were also against providing an id and proof of address as outlined by samysamy.
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July 28, 2015, 04:33:59 PM
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@dannac you already know that you're trolling otherwise you wouldn't even mention it.
By the way I and probably many others thought you might be a genuine case, but at the end you proved yourself to be 100% a sockpuppet and have gotten two stakes from makoto. You were also against providing an id and proof of address as outlined by samysamy.


Straight question:
If I send YOU my (and for the other 3 too )  ID, photo, address, credit card or whatever you need, do we get our remaining Stakes ?
Are you in charge for that ? I don't think so.

Then who is in charge , aka MAKOTO, please just ask publicly here on THIS Forum that we have to send him our proofs of identity , and after that we will get our Stakes.
If that happen, OF COURSE we can do it straight away, no problem.

But tell me why should we post all our Identities on a FORUM where everyone is anonymous, just because YOU or someone else (that doesn't have right on that btw) is just asking for that?

I'm angry, I'm not fool  Cheesy

Does it make sense to you ?? or still hard to understand ?
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July 28, 2015, 04:39:12 PM
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? Huh

If the currency is as good as the blockchain then it's probably the best. If it becomes the reserve currency then something around 10 000 dollars per 1 XEM in today's values. 1 dollar per XEM would do me though.

Awesome  Smiley yeah 1 dollar would be nice, I am not too greedy  Cheesy

Well that would mean 9 billion marketcap. BTC went to over 12 billion marketcap and honestly , BTC has nowhere near the pedigree of NEM. These are still early days........people , don't listen to that loser dannac.....get yourselves some XEM.

Having NEM stake (as I do) doesn't mean that you have to convince everyone NEM is the elixir of the Crypto...
But if you want me to do that:  yeah people Buy XEM !!! XEM for everyone !!!!!
We don't want Makoto going back and getting a real proper job again, like a looser !!! Don't wait, buy your XEM !!!! Please  !!!!  Grin  Grin  Grin
So, don't get informed, don't ask anything. Just buy XEM ! Trust the Devs.

It's you that's not informed ya numpty......you don't know what you have......the loser in you will sell as soon as you see a rise in price......hope you do so that someone more deserving will get your XEM ya sockmaster ya....

NDZ4YPCKVKWAIIZBB5T7T5EL67N2XWPQODGGWIYT
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July 28, 2015, 04:42:04 PM
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? Huh

If the currency is as good as the blockchain then it's probably the best. If it becomes the reserve currency then something around 10 000 dollars per 1 XEM in today's values. 1 dollar per XEM would do me though.

Awesome  Smiley yeah 1 dollar would be nice, I am not too greedy  Cheesy

Well that would mean 9 billion marketcap. BTC went to over 12 billion marketcap and honestly , BTC has nowhere near the pedigree of NEM. These are still early days........people , don't listen to that loser dannac.....get yourselves some XEM.

Having NEM stake (as I do) doesn't mean that you have to convince everyone NEM is the elixir of the Crypto...
But if you want me to do that:  yeah people Buy XEM !!! XEM for everyone !!!!!
We don't want Makoto going back and getting a real proper job again, like a looser !!! Don't wait, buy your XEM !!!! Please  !!!!  Grin  Grin  Grin
So, don't get informed, don't ask anything. Just buy XEM ! Trust the Devs.

It's you that's not informed ya numpty......you don't know what you have......the loser in you will sell as soon as you see a rise in price......hope you do so that someone more deserving will get your XEM ya sockmaster ya....

I'm not selling them. I'm planning to give them away for free ( at least my portion of stake)
So don't be worried. I know what I have. And it stinks.
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July 28, 2015, 04:45:39 PM
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My last comment on the sock puppet story:
BloodyRookie explained it already very good. There is no 100% fairness if you don't have 100% of the needed information. Thus, compromises had to be accepted. Everybody with an IQ above 60 will understand this.

I feel sorry for all the people who lost a stake because of a false-positive analysis result (wrongly classified as sock).
I also feel sorry for all stakeholders because of false-negative analysis results (wrongly NOT classified as socks), because this makes the NEM distribution a little bit poorer and therefore all stakeholders suffer from it.

Did those false-positive accounts had any chance to prove their identity or something?

No, Unfortunately they didn't.
Because NEM is not synonymous of Fairness.
Otherwise, how could these NEM stakes go into the Head pockets if analysis was fair ?  Wink
Whoever offered is availability to show any proof of identity didn't get reply from Patmast3r before, and Makoto after...
Think about, how hard was  try to spend just a bit more time to let people explain their reasons.... How often we use a shared internet connection (Office, Home..) that has been the most common reason why accounts have been flagged as socks puppets  (same IP for different accounts) ?
Try to ask Devs to tell you which Multisig Address holds all the Sockpuppets Stakes, and tell me if you will get answer from them.
Read the previous 6-7 pages and you will better understand.
There must be a reason why on SuperNET they have their own idea about NEM. And there you will find THE devs.
Hope this helps you to don't believe in NEM.
I cannot say more, otherwise I would be a Troll.

Btw, How comes that nobody is interested about the concept expressed in red bolded above??!?!?!
Rather then worry about our identity ?
I can't believe nobody hasn't got even a doubt...
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July 28, 2015, 04:48:07 PM
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? Huh

If the currency is as good as the blockchain then it's probably the best. If it becomes the reserve currency then something around 10 000 dollars per 1 XEM in today's values. 1 dollar per XEM would do me though.

Awesome  Smiley yeah 1 dollar would be nice, I am not too greedy  Cheesy

Well that would mean 9 billion marketcap. BTC went to over 12 billion marketcap and honestly , BTC has nowhere near the pedigree of NEM. These are still early days........people , don't listen to that loser dannac.....get yourselves some XEM.

Having NEM stake (as I do) doesn't mean that you have to convince everyone NEM is the elixir of the Crypto...
But if you want me to do that:  yeah people Buy XEM !!! XEM for everyone !!!!!
We don't want Makoto going back and getting a real proper job again, like a looser !!! Don't wait, buy your XEM !!!! Please  !!!!  Grin  Grin  Grin
So, don't get informed, don't ask anything. Just buy XEM ! Trust the Devs.

It's you that's not informed ya numpty......you don't know what you have......the loser in you will sell as soon as you see a rise in price......hope you do so that someone more deserving will get your XEM ya sockmaster ya....

I'm not selling them. I'm planning to give them away for free ( at least my portion of stake)
So don't be worried. I know what I have. And it stinks.

Let me rimind you with samysamy's quote:
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=654845.msg11975529#msg11975529
You logged in into the other accounts and pretended to be your two imaginary friends who got nada nothing etc etc well you know the rest  Tongue This is sooooo funny.

Yeah Xem stinks terribly. I'd love to release you from them - Please forward them to my account.
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July 28, 2015, 04:57:36 PM
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How much is one XEM potentially worth in the future? Huh

If the currency is as good as the blockchain then it's probably the best. If it becomes the reserve currency then something around 10 000 dollars per 1 XEM in today's values. 1 dollar per XEM would do me though.

Awesome  Smiley yeah 1 dollar would be nice, I am not too greedy  Cheesy

Well that would mean 9 billion marketcap. BTC went to over 12 billion marketcap and honestly , BTC has nowhere near the pedigree of NEM. These are still early days........people , don't listen to that loser dannac.....get yourselves some XEM.

Having NEM stake (as I do) doesn't mean that you have to convince everyone NEM is the elixir of the Crypto...
But if you want me to do that:  yeah people Buy XEM !!! XEM for everyone !!!!!
We don't want Makoto going back and getting a real proper job again, like a looser !!! Don't wait, buy your XEM !!!! Please  !!!!  Grin  Grin  Grin
So, don't get informed, don't ask anything. Just buy XEM ! Trust the Devs.

It's you that's not informed ya numpty......you don't know what you have......the loser in you will sell as soon as you see a rise in price......hope you do so that someone more deserving will get your XEM ya sockmaster ya....

I'm not selling them. I'm planning to give them away for free ( at least my portion of stake)
So don't be worried. I know what I have. And it stinks.

Let me rimind you with samysamy's quote:
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=654845.msg11975529#msg11975529
You logged in into the other accounts and pretended to be your two imaginary friends who got nada nothing etc etc well you know the rest  Tongue This is sooooo funny.

Yeah Xem stinks terribly. I'd love to release you from them - Please forward them to my account.

I will send you your quote into something the will stink more then NEM themselves.. And you will have to use your bloody greedy fingers and make them dirty to collect them, one by one.
And you will certainly do it, because you are so greedy. and you don't have any idea of meaning of word like ethic, respect, honour....
The biggest part of my NEM will go to a Sockpuppet that didn't get his stake because of some wankers like you. Keep thinking for yourself.
And shut that mouth Poor pointless self-right, Because even with your XEM, you are still a poor little Man.
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July 28, 2015, 05:10:35 PM
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dannac one more offensive comment like that again and your future posts will be deleted.

criticism is fine, being offensive is not. your choice.

Was it offensive ?? Is it because of Little Man ?!?!  Grin  Grin
I thought he was offensive to me.
I must be wrong than.... silly me  Roll Eyes
As long as nobody say anything about Sockpuppets, I won't have anything to post in here.
As soon as someone will post any other falsity about sock puppets and all the process behind it, and you will see me again.
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July 28, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
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dannac one more offensive comment like that again and your future posts will be deleted.

criticism is fine, being offensive is not. your choice.

to answer your previous question about multisig accounts, its public for anyone to see. this is the account that distributes/contains sock stakes.

http://chain.nem.ninja/#/account/NDSUSTAAB2GWHBUFJXP7QQGYHBVEFWZESBUUWM4P/0


2.3 Billion of XEM remaining into the Socks Stakes Account Huh!!?!!?!?!!
And lucky that in reply to my first post regarding Sockpuppets when I mentioned "Nearly thousand  Socks Cases unsolved" , I've been told that there were just FEW sock puppets unsolved .....  Shocked  Shocked
Sorry, i said the previous one was the last post, but this one was completely unexpected...
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July 28, 2015, 05:33:56 PM
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And then the silence.
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