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September 04, 2015, 09:21:33 AM
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Has anyone reviewed PoI yet? My first feeling was that PoI would likely not work as intended but I had no time to analyze its complex construction. Maybe there is a paper that explains PoI in a reader-friendly manner.

Welcome back from the beyond.

An econ prof here in Japan is reviewing PoI now. However, for  Nakamoto consensus mechanisms to work, you need:

1) a probability distribution that everyone shares
2) that distribution cannot be arbitrarily controllable

If you have those two properties, you are safe, and PoI satisfies both.

There's also this http://nem.io/NEM_techRef.pdf with a section dedicated to POI.

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September 04, 2015, 09:36:57 AM
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Thank you, guys.
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September 04, 2015, 10:56:28 AM
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Roughly 70 people have already activated their accounts on the new forum. Go activate yours now !

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http://blockexplore.in/search/richlist/

Fact is NEM is only growing by some 10 addresses a week and addresses are not people and this upswing was probably due to the faucet.    No time to deal with exact numbers but the approximation is a doubling of addresses will take up to 3.5 years at the current rate.

You paid Xtester 20 million XEM
You paid kodtycoon 10 million XEM
You paid a lot of "marketers" a lot of XEM.  


Where are the results?  Where is the adoption?  Where is the marketing?  The advertising?


Many of the people who were paid the most for marketing did the least of what ever marketing there was.  Translations are essential marketing, some people spent hour(s) on them and yet many translators were paid less than 1 stake and some weren't even paid at all.   Huh    

 Yet we had someone like Xtester who was paid 20 million XEM and many can testify he was a terrible moderator (he let CfA spam all day and was inactive for weeks at a time) and no forum moderator in the world, even a competent one, even deserves more than a single stake..


How you guys handled this reward for marketing, which was cronyism, implies that NEM is being ran by dangerous management.  

A) How can an investor knowingly invest into NEM if they knew these facts?  If you give the developers money, will they just give it away to friends and relatives?  Dangerous I'ld say.

B)  Because of cronyism - nobody new to NEM has incentive to contribute.  Why bust your butt so some figurehead marketer, who does nothing, gets 10x more than you?   New economy is oddly starting to look like old economy of cronyism and corruption..


Tut tut JBC, Tuan, Ivan and Sirkos, Tuansew......appears you suffer from 'impatience' like so many others. I do wish you could use even 10 % of your undoubted energies/ abilities to benefit rather than hinder.

P.s. Thanks for the rich list link........it clearly shows that all the big accounts are Funds set up for the benefit of NEM.

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September 04, 2015, 03:17:55 PM
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Roughly 70 people have already activated their accounts on the new forum. Go activate yours now !


this is good.......!!!!!  Yup ,please activate peoples !!!!!!

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September 04, 2015, 04:43:13 PM
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Bloody Rookie found one more small error in Mosaics today with spaces in names.  But other than that it is looking good. 

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September 04, 2015, 05:47:49 PM
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Is it possible to do a crowdsale on NEM? I need ability to attach a message to a bid order.
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September 04, 2015, 06:01:28 PM
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Is it possible to do a crowdsale on NEM? I need ability to attach a message to a bid order.

You mean like on a "traditional" AE ?
I suppose you could do a crowdsale but afaik - at least initially - there are no orders on mosaics so you'd have to announce the price then people would send you that amount with your desired message attached and you would then send them whatever it is your selling (represented by an asset). I guess these things are not what mosaics is designed for at it's core. It would prob be trivial to stick a "crowdsale script" onto the API that does the trading automatically though.
That's how I understand it at least but afaik there hasn't been any release of detailed information so take it with a grain of salt.

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You mean like on a "traditional" AE ?
I suppose you could do a crowdsale but afaik - at least initially - there are no orders on mosaics so you'd have to announce the price then people would send you that amount with your desired message attached and you would then send them whatever it is your selling (represented by an asset). I guess these things are not what mosaics is designed for at it's core. It would prob be trivial to stick a "crowdsale script" onto the API that does the trading automatically though.
That's how I understand it at least but afaik there hasn't been any release of detailed information so take it with a grain of salt.

IIRC NEM had AE since the release... Not sure though...
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September 04, 2015, 06:07:32 PM
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Is it possible to do a crowdsale on NEM? I need ability to attach a message to a bid order.

Crowdsale=selling an asset/token for X-value. So, don't understand what you mean by a bid order.
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September 04, 2015, 06:13:49 PM
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You mean like on a "traditional" AE ?
I suppose you could do a crowdsale but afaik - at least initially - there are no orders on mosaics so you'd have to announce the price then people would send you that amount with your desired message attached and you would then send them whatever it is your selling (represented by an asset). I guess these things are not what mosaics is designed for at it's core. It would prob be trivial to stick a "crowdsale script" onto the API that does the trading automatically though.
That's how I understand it at least but afaik there hasn't been any release of detailed information so take it with a grain of salt.

IIRC NEM had AE since the release... Not sure though...

It is not the most important thing just yet. We are taking emphasis on real world application priorities first. Personally speaking NXT has demonstrated this is doable but it does not show feasibility. In fact it appears to bring a bad name to the initiative than good.

What can't existing exchanges do that AE can do other than anonymity?
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September 04, 2015, 06:14:33 PM
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Crowdsale=selling an asset/token for X-value. So, don't understand what you mean by a bid order.

There are different schemes of crowdsales, some of them require ability to place bid orders.
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September 04, 2015, 06:15:32 PM
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What can't existing exchanges do that AE can do other than anonymity?

Transparency.
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September 05, 2015, 01:23:48 AM
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Is it possible to do a crowdsale on NEM? I need ability to attach a message to a bid order.

You can attach messages to mosaic transfers, so that is one way to do what you want.

At some point there will be a decentralized mosaic exchange (ME), but not for this first version.

                
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September 05, 2015, 07:53:16 AM
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Important Forum Announcement

Hi Everyone,

I have some news about the forum.  Patmast3r worked really hard to get us migrated, writing a script from scratch.  

The users and posts from the old forum have been migrated over to forum.nem.io, and ...
Here are somethings you need to know.  

Your old password won't work.

You should have been sent an email in the last 24 hours with a link to activate your account at the new forum.  

Please follow that link, and gaining access to your account ....

Hello.

Do I need to register a new account there to be able to do that?!
Maybe you can help. Please check my post:

https://forum.ournem.com/forum-discussion/'(nem-forum)-activate-your-new-account'/msg18164/#msg18164

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Important Forum Announcement

Hi Everyone,

I have some news about the forum.  Patmast3r worked really hard to get us migrated, writing a script from scratch.  

The users and posts from the old forum have been migrated over to forum.nem.io, and ...
Here are somethings you need to know.  

Your old password won't work.

You should have been sent an email in the last 24 hours with a link to activate your account at the new forum.  

Please follow that link, and gaining access to your account ....

Hello.

Do I need to register a new account there to be able to do that?!
Maybe you can help. Please check my post:

https://forum.ournem.com/forum-discussion/'(nem-forum)-activate-your-new-account'/msg18164/#msg18164


I just sent you a new activation links. It's only valid 24h.

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Hello.

Do I need to register a new account there to be able to do that?!
Maybe you can help. Please check my post:

https://forum.ournem.com/forum-discussion/'(nem-forum)-activate-your-new-account'/msg18164/#msg18164


I just sent you a new activation links. It's only valid 24h.

Thanks!
But it seems that the problem is still present:
Code:
Sorry, this account confirmation link is no longer valid.
Perhaps your account is already active?

I don see myself in the user list on the new forum!
Maybe we should deal with this in one place
https://forum.ournem.com/forum-discussion/'(nem-forum)-activate-your-new-account'/msg18164/#msg18164

Thanks.

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Hello.

Do I need to register a new account there to be able to do that?!
Maybe you can help. Please check my post:

https://forum.ournem.com/forum-discussion/'(nem-forum)-activate-your-new-account'/msg18164/#msg18164


I just sent you a new activation links. It's only valid 24h.

Thanks!
But it seems that the problem is still present:
Code:
Sorry, this account confirmation link is no longer valid.
Perhaps your account is already active?

I don see myself in the user list on the new forum!
Maybe we should deal with this in one place
https://forum.ournem.com/forum-discussion/'(nem-forum)-activate-your-new-account'/msg18164/#msg18164

Thanks.


I activated your account. Just use the "forgot password" function to reset your password. Then you should be good to go.

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I activated your account. Just use the "forgot password" function to reset your password. Then you should be good to go.

Thanks for the help!
Everything is fine now
I'm good to go! Smiley


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September 05, 2015, 03:53:58 PM
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Crowdsale=selling an asset/token for X-value. So, don't understand what you mean by a bid order.

There are different schemes of crowdsales, some of them require ability to place bid orders.

That would  be an Asset Exchange with messaging bid. We don't have one now, so can't comment, although we don't think it is difficult if we ever have one.
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