ok, so recapitulation of this "drama"
(sb correct me if i am wrong)
Back in the old days CECVW registered 3 stakes (or 4?) for his all his friends. He checked on the redemption site if his key is ok and moved on with his life.
When price spiked he wanted to dump his stakes (or part of it), however he did not know how to import private key to his wallet so he FUDed a bit on this forum, that devs have taken his stakes.
no, this has nothing to do with the 3 stakes from before, that was a separate incident.
Meanwhile kodtycoon - a (former?) member of core team sold all his crypto for whatever reason, but he found some bug in the way how exchanges handle alts.
He had no coins of his own to try this bug and nobody trusted him enough to lend him large amount of some alt. (I imagine he did not want to tell anyone what he wanted to do with coins)
correct, however, i dont know if anyone would have trusted me, i just didnt ask as i assumed they wouldnt.
All of the sudden kodtycoon sees CECVW FUDing on the forum, that devs have taken his stakes, but obviously, he just didnt know how to import keys in the wallet.
the public posting happened after i had borrowed the coins. cecvw had contacted me first requesting me to send his coins to an address, which i did, exactly as he asked. at that point i had done exactly what he wanted me to. i didnt realise it was the polo address he was asking me to send to. he didnt provide a message so he screwed that part up himself.
So kodtycoon asked CECVW to give him private keys to that stakes, that he will try to get his XEM.
CECVW gave him keys, because he is member of nem core team and they knew each other.
he sent me the keys because he trusted me because i have helped him with numerous things over the years, one of those things includes letting me log into his computer using team viewer to sort out the nem client, hava and so on so that he could claim his stakes originally, so he knew he could trust me.
Now kodtycoon has private keys to 3 (4?) sakes, but instead of telling CECVW: "ok, all your XEM are there" he uses that coins to test his hack, thinking that CECVW wont notice anything and he might get some bounty from exchanges for telling them about the bug.
one stake. i only thought of using the coins after he had caused the screw up with polo. so there would have been a delay in getting the coins regardless of whether i had done anything or not.
However, kodtycoons hack lasted too long and CECVW noticed that his coins moved and thought (former) member of nem core team stole his XEM. kodtycoon tels CECVW, that he used his coins on hack and he will return cons back. He also mentions bounty.
it was polo contacting him days later telling him someone had claimed his nem already that made him aware. at this point, if bittrex had gotten back to me in a reasonable time i could have had the coins back to him before even polo had gotten back to him. it took bittrex 4 days.
CECVW does not trust him, freaks out and starts posting cryptic posts about NEM apocalypse.
Meanwhile, kodtycoons hack is successful and he returns all XEM to CECVW.
he freaked out after i wouldnt tell him how much of a bounty i was getting or if he would get any cut and after i didnt react to his threat to destroy nem.
CECVW, does not feel that is enough and wants cut form kodtycoons bounty for involuntary "lending" him XEM.
kodtycoon does not want to give CECVW cut from his bounty so CECVW continues to be prophet of NEMs apocalypse.
i refrained from saying how much because, well thats my business(t was more than i would have asked for, should i have asked), and i didnt say whether i would give him any because i wanted to see how he would react after all the help i had given him all the years. he was clearly ungrateful, followed by a threat, so why the hell should i give him any under those circumstances. if it had been me, i would have said fair play for finding the flaw, no harm cos i got my coins back and i wont make a deal out of it because of all the help that you gave me, but instead, he threatens me, and demands that i tell him how much i got and actually asked for a cut.
EDIT: kodtycoon gave CECVW cut from his bounty, but CECVW still does not understand anything and think it is all big NEM conspiration?
i didnt give a cut. i returned his coins at the first opportunity but still freaked out. i assume because he is sour that i said nothing about whether he would get a cut and now realises that he would have, if he had just forgiven me for how i used his coins. and i honestly would have given a cut. thats exactly why i didnt even respond to questions regarding a cut. i didnt say yes and i didnt say no, because at that point i didnt know.
How does dannac fits in to this story? I dont know ..
Is he also CECVW, or just random guy that likes FUD and used this opportunity to FUD?
very likely the same person.
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against manipulating.
this is the email from poloniex when i tried to recover the NEM and kodycoon told me he sent it and I told him poloniex told me to send this 37 nem from the same desktop was sent the 2225000 NEM but this time with the message key.. I did ask kodycoon and he said he did it, then I waited a few days for poloniex reply back and when they did kodycoon send an email to poloniex to get them back. He played with my mind a lot. see email below from poloniex:
'' I could only see whether the coins were already claimed by trying to credit your balance, the claim predates yours by a few days and proof was provided.
This is very unfortunate and I understand your frustration, please be assured this is not a deliberate action we took to damage you, our greatest interest is that you use the platform and trade.
There is a great risk when sending coins without the required information, this is exactly what we try to prevent with the warning message at the XEM deposit section of your balances page, several other coins have such warning for they are also subject to this.
I am very sorry this happened to you.''
NOW I CAN NOT REPLY TO ALL HE IS MANIPULATING EVERYTHING AND I NEVER ASK FOR BOUNTY! I TOLD YOU I SAID THIS
AND BELOW IS ONE BLACKMAILING TO DELETE THE POST 4 DAYS AGO
if you delete that post, ill send you your coins from my bounty but ill be routing them through poloniex to hide my account. otherwise you can wait until bittrex return the other coins. your choice.
so, delete the post and get your coins back from my bounty AFTER being sent through poloniex, or wait for bittrex, which i have shown proof of? up to you.
AND BELOW IS MY ANSWER
I dont want stolen coins, I want the stake of my friend dont ever tell me yuo are giving me part of the bounty, what if yuo do its the stake of my friends! I dont steal and I dont want part of the bounty i want the stake of my friends not dirty coins!''
HE TRIED TO BUY MY SILENCE OFFERING ME HIS BOUNTY AND I DID NOT ASK, I JOKE A BIT ABOUT IT BUT THATS ALL YUO CAN SEE ABOVE WHEN HE OFFERED IT TO ME SERIOULY I REFUSED.
i CAN NOT ANSWER ALL I AM VERY TIRED AND NOT FEELING WELL I HAD A SERIOUS OPERATION, PLEASE CAN WE STOP THIS TILL THE EXCHANGES REPLY I OPENED 3 TICKETS
