NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs

[TonyHughesDesign]

I'll take some free NEM please:

Poloniex at:
NBZMQO7ZPBYNBDUR7F75MAKA2S3DHDCIFG775N3D
Memo:
8c5629e1fb974327

OK ive been a good boy and installed a wallet.. on OSX

NCCS2E-JOUGAI-SFPPBA-7UDURN-7MF5IB-PHNA5R-YPSI

[meyns]

I have read each and every post about this, please Dannac compensate for the time I used for this.
NCX6YI-57H5OC-ENASLT-I3AHCE-YOLTZA-JD7DDZ-BLRX

[zachamo]

What trolling means for you?  I'm trying to figure it out, but...
Is it an attitude?  Maybe The use of a specific word or a few words?
Or It may be that I wrote something you don't like?
Well,  in that case is not trolling mate... It's just u.. Use ignore button.

You and your alter-ego CECVW have made a near majority of posts on this thread over the past 10+ pages, most of them being accusatory, inflammatory, defamatory, or otherwise attempting or threatening to devalue NEM and it's key players. If you hadn't been such nut jobs about how you raised this, it would have had more credibility. I do agree that what koodycoin did is past a grey area of morality -- effectively stealing someone's unclaimed stake and using it for a social engineering project.. The exchange could have caught onto him and simply kept the NEM for themselves as an F-You, and he would have had little recourse, and also been unable to pay back the 'borrowed' NEM. That's super sketchy, and I think the core team should distance themselves from this behavior and those who perpetuate it.. Had he notified the owner of the exchange in advance of the plan and gained consent, this would have been whitehat hacking - which is a respectable activity. That said, he rightly points out that he resolved a weakness in at least one exchange, caused no real damage in the process, and potentially prevented a significant theft; if the end justifies the means, his actions are justified.. As for whether the end DOES justify the means, you can start a new thread for that, or maybe a philosophy blog.

Or  just because I want to get rid of my forgotten 12M XEM that I'm trolling now ?
It's funny that most of the accuses I received were about me wanting more XEM...  When I actually  want to sell them all.

This is that awesome moment where you seem to out yourself.  I didn't read the full text of your rantings, but so far as I gathered, dannac only chimed in because CECVW shared the details of what happened.. CECVW was the one with 12M XEM he was having trouble redeeming so that he could sell them; he's also the one who's been accused of wanting more XEM. Did anyone accuse dannac of 'wanting more XEM'?? I don't believe so.. Looks to me like you posted this under the wrong ID -- and how did you have 4 stakes? If you're running multiple accounts in this discussion, perhaps you're an uncaught mini puppetmaster. Also -- using multiple accounts to argue the same point would fit into my definition of 'trolling'.


On an unrelated note -- to all you who are posting XEM addresses.. This is NOT a giveaway thread. Please take it to the NEM forums.
See https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=780979.0

[greentea]

And now to something totally different:

Version 0.6.74 has been released, please update your nodes as soon as possible.

https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-beta-0-6-74/1998

Awesome thanks!

Also stop posting addresses in this thread, it's against forum rules.

[zachamo]

This has been my experience. And consider we are holding 2 NEM stakes with us (so far). So, if I'm doing this, it's really because I don't think it always a matter of money, but I believe sometimes is a matter of fairness.

Let me get the facts straight:

• You've registered 4 stakes, although it was clearly stated, one can register 2
• The other accounts have 1 post each (I won't comment on that)
• You've received 2 stakes
• now you're complaining, cause you got caught...

I call that impertinency, welcome to my ignore list

Let me rectify your inferences:

- WE have registered 4 stakes. 4 different individuals that live under the same roof, and that, consequence of that, share same Internet connection.

- I've got the other 3 housemate involved because of NEM, when even me was pretty new on Crypto. They have to register to BTC Talks to get a stake. They really didn't care about BTC Talk forum. And still don't. WE checked periodically from one computer, together. No need to post anything if you don't really need to ask, isn't it
 I DIDN'T FIND ANYWHERE IN THE RULE BOOK REGARDING BEING AN ACTIVE MEMBER WITH AT LEST 10000000000 POSTS DONE WHEN DISTRIBUTION WILL COME....  So good call when you say "I won't comment on that"  +1 for you

- We have received 2 stakes, but we paid for 4. All our stakes required money, we weren't in the first pages were Stakes were free. wouldn't you complain for true ?

- Now I'm complaining, yes, because we didn't break any rules at the time, when  I decided to get other people involved in NEM, since NEM needed more people involved at the time, according to the developer. I'm talking about the smart one.
 I had to lend the other 3 guys some BTC and NXT to let them buy Stakes, because they were brand new on Cryptos.
Now i have 3 mates that are thinking I cheated them. And they will never believe in Crypto anymore.
So no stakes, no money back. And that wasn't stated in the rule book at the time. We didn't break any rules when we decided to go in together.
RULES IN THE 1ST REGISTRATION POST SHOULD HAVE SAID something like:" IT WILL BE TOTALLY UP TO DEVS if GIVING OR NOT STAKES TO ANYONE LEGITIMATELY BOUGHT A RESERVATION. THIS WILL BE DONE ACCORDING TO RULES THAT DON'T EXIST YET."
In that case, fair enough... 

Btw, following your provocation, I would call your behaviour dullness. Welcome to my pointless list. 

But thanks to worry so much about my case anyway.

Lol.. You are SUCH a sockpuppeteer.. You never had 12M coins, you only had 1 stake, right? Then what's this about wanting to sell 12M stakes? This is a joke, but it isn't funny.. Stop it.

[zachamo]

What trolling means for you?  I'm trying to figure it out, but...
Is it an attitude?  Maybe The use of a specific word or a few words?
Or It may be that I wrote something you don't like?
Well,  in that case is not trolling mate... It's just u.. Use ignore button.

"The exchange could have caught onto him and simply kept the NEM for themselves as an F-You, and he would have had little recourse, and also been unable to pay back the 'borrowed' ".

coins were never at risk. the "hack" a legitimate deposit, followed by legitimate withdrawal, which means the exchange could not have been aware of any "hack" until after the initial deposit had been withdrawn and were safe. it was either it doesnt work and i still have the coins or it worked and i had a lot more. i wouldnt have attempted it had the coins been at risk at any time.

If you get your head out of alts and look back at old world BTC, you'd be acutely aware that coins stored anywhere other than your own wallet are not 'safe'. How many exchanges have been robbed, disappeared, etc? Mt. Gox was safe until it wasn't. I get your premise, but I also disagree with it. The coins were probably safe, but no seasoned crypto-user would agree they were not at risk at any time.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-04/26/large-bitcoin-exchanges-attacks

[Jooonge]

Please i want some XEM toooooo  

NBZMQO7ZPBYNBDUR7F75MAKA2S3DHDCIFG775N3D

[zachamo]

Anyway, mr. ZACHAMO doesn't like my giving away XEM for free. So, I have to stop it. I respect someone else opinion.
If that disturb him, why going ahead. If he says is not funny, there's no reason to do that.
Say all together THANKS ZACHATO that helped you out to get rid of this annoying XEM giveaway.

It was also a bit too time spending do that in this way to be honest with you, I'll look for other channels to give them away.
May be on this Forum, but probably on others.
Look around on the net, and you may be able to find it...
So now you are free from this plague  

For zachamo, at the time of NEM distribution, we were 4 person sharing 2same IP in our home (3 been registered from home, 1 been registered from office).
Did you ever consider the possibility that I could have personally bought 3 stakes when they where for sale, before distribution, and before the sock puppets scandal ?  
at the time when we were still believe in NEM.
They are spread on 4 different wallets. 4 people, 4 wallets, simply as that. Ot at least it should be. Do you want wallet numbers to double check ?  
The other 3 guys (2 actually, as one was my partner) retreated from Crypto immediately once they saw NEM Community behaviours during the Sockpuppets scandal, and they let me do whatever I want with the XEM. They were, and they are still worthless.
Everyone , me included as you can see, lost interest... in NEM especially but in Crypto also, generally speaking..
Oh, btw, you may be right zachato, there were not 12 Million. I think they were only 11,250,000.. sorry... I'm going from memory, so is an estimate number.

Anyway, sorry for the mess.
And sorry zachato for the giveaway that annoyed you so much to force you to post a message in regard that. My apologies for that.
Btw, did you get your free XEM zachato mmm.. maybe not.. well, too late  

Cheers to all to ones have been, I'm not saying nice, but polite at least with me.
I hope I pay you all back with a small perkt.
Thanks and sorry again.

You just can't help being dramatic, can you? And you LOVE misspelling people's names, damnac.

You promote something that contradicts the rules of this forum, I point it out as an unrelated side note, now I'm the bad guy. You think I mention it because I don't like you giving out NEM -- quite to the contrary, I'd love you to give out more NEM and I think it would be an admirable activity perfectly in line with what you've conveyed about your views and beliefs; just don't do it in breach of the rules of this forum.. That said, I know you won't follow through on this in a significant manner because these, like most of your words, are empty and only intended to continue the conversation; which is why I consider it trolling. You were miserly with your contributions before I (and another poster) pointed out that this was against the rules, so much as you play this as 'ooh, the big bad Zatmahjdo made me stop, I wish I could give more' is just more hollow BS. Put your money where your mouth is and follow through on the official NEM forums or via some other avenue


You also didn't address a key point  -- nice dodge, but very telling.

Again --
"so far as I gathered, dannac only chimed in because CECVW shared the details of what happened.. CECVW was the one with 12M XEM he was having trouble redeeming so that he could sell them; he's also the one who's been accused of wanting more XEM. Did anyone accuse dannac of 'wanting more XEM'?? I don't believe so.."

CECVW can't be one of your 'partners', as they all dropped out during the initial sock puppet scandal right? So what, you get their stakes now, they just abandoned them, or did they sell them? Let me guess - you bought them for $5 each, right? because that's the answer that can't be substantiated.. So somehow you've gotten confused on where CECVW ends and you begin -- mixing up who's selling their old XEM stakes started all of this, and who's been accused of trying to get their share of a bounty.. Sure is confusing at times when you're running multiple accounts - getting your facts straight etc. Maybe you just have multiple personalities, and each has their own account? Why is it that CECVW would be willing to share what was supposedly such toxic and damning information with YOU of all people here? How could he trust you with it? What would have motivated him to even bother sharing it with someone if he was trying so publicly to discreetly sort it out with the devs and make it a non-issue? Because he and you are one. You're the same person.

[LemonAndFriesOne]

Lots of sockpuppets from one person that had los/sold his NEM stakes and fudding.
Attempts to try to close this thread down also by conducting a giveaway where users posts addresses.
This has become suspect that the initial person claiming he "lost his stakes" (most likely sold), is using many of his sockpuppets that he initially used to claim stakes in order to fud and fill this thread with nonsense and try to devalue NEM.

Suggestion: report the suspect along with all the sockpuppets, maybe a permanent IP ban can be done.

[frozend]

And now to something totally different:

Version 0.6.74 has been released, please update your nodes as soon as possible.

https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-beta-0-6-74/1998

Thanks for the update

[TonyHughesDesign]

Please sir can I have some MORE!! (Oliver Twist)

NCCS2E-JOUGAI-SFPPBA-7UDURN-7MF5IB-PHNA5R-YPSI

[BloodyRookie]

Please everyone stop posting NEM addresses!

(it is ok to have an address in your signature)

[jabo38]

Please take a moment to read and comment.

https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-apostille-a-nem-notary-system-community-fund-proposal/2001

[fragout]

Please take a moment to read and comment.

https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-apostille-a-nem-notary-system-community-fund-proposal/2001

Looks like a great project and 5 mill spend from community fund is justified imo

[yshin365new]

Please take a moment to read and comment.

https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-apostille-a-nem-notary-system-community-fund-proposal/2001

Looks like a great project and 5 mill spend from community fund is justified imo

+ 1

[Scharfenberger]

Please take a moment to read and comment.

https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-apostille-a-nem-notary-system-community-fund-proposal/2001

Simply awesome!

With ideas like that NEM is on the right track to change our financial thinking!

[pgb]

Please take a moment to read and comment.

https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-apostille-a-nem-notary-system-community-fund-proposal/2001

Looks like a great project and 5 mill spend from community fund is justified imo

Name is great and the project itself very very interesting. This will definitely add value to the whole project so the 5m are more than justified! Best of luck and looking forward to see the end product.

[absolum]

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What trolling means for you?  I'm trying to figure it out, but...
Is it an attitude?  Maybe The use of a specific word or a few words?
Or It may be that I wrote something you don't like?
Well,  in that case is not trolling mate... It's just u.. Use ignore button.

"The exchange could have caught onto him and simply kept the NEM for themselves as an F-You, and he would have had little recourse, and also been unable to pay back the 'borrowed' ".

coins were never at risk. the "hack" involved a legitimate deposit, followed by legitimate withdrawal, which means the exchange could not have been aware of any "hack" until after the initial deposit had been withdrawn and were safe. it was either it doesnt work and i still have the coins or it worked and i had a lot more. i wouldnt have attempted it had the coins been at risk at any time.

Had he notified the owner of the exchange in advance of the plan and gained consent, this would have been whitehat hacking - which is a respectable activity

whats the difference in telling them before or after, so long as you tell them in a reasonable amount of time? also, im not exactly what you would call a seasoned white hat, or any kind of hacker, it was pretty much a flook to be honest so i cant really be expected to be informed on the ins and outs on what is good or bad practice regarding white hat hacking or hacking in general.

For codtycoon:
Hey Buddy, quick question for you:

Why you needed more 2,000,000 XEM to try the hack if it was purely for a "security check" exercise ?
I believe, if you asked for 5-10-100 or even 1000 XEM here in the forum ,explaining that they were going to be used for a XEM security improvement, anyone that is NEM passionate could have give them to you if you were broke. I believe even Makoto could have given 2-3 NEM to you.. But I wouldn't bet on him  
So, Why more then 2,000,000 and not only a few XEM for you Hack Test That's my question.
Thanks for reply. IF you will reply.
Regards,

NEM Team,
Is there a reason why YOU DELETED the above Dannac post and other 5 posts subsequent to this one ?
This post doesn't seem to infringe any Forum's rule.
Is there a reason why has been deleted ?
Just out of curiosity.

[greentea]

Please take a moment to read and comment.

https://forum.nem.io/t/nem-apostille-a-nem-notary-system-community-fund-proposal/2001

Great!  Good use of community funds ...

[b1007]

Definitely, 5 million XEM will be well spent!