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October 08, 2013, 07:34:22 PM |
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I am outta here guys. It was fun.... I am selling several shares....
it is gonna go less than 0.7
Lophie, so soon a change of heart?  It's been a mad rollercoaster ride these last few days.  I dumped all my AM100s (56) at 0.012 which I had bought at 0.018. Thought I could buy them back cheaper but that hasn't happened. 
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October 08, 2013, 08:37:52 PM |
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I am outta here guys. It was fun.... I am selling several shares....
it is gonna go less than 0.7
Lophie, so soon a change of heart?  It's been a mad rollercoaster ride these last few days.  I dumped all my AM100s (56) at 0.012 which I had bought at 0.018. Thought I could buy them back cheaper but that hasn't happened.  sooo buy high, sell low? k..
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October 08, 2013, 08:59:30 PM |
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crash incoming: Important Notice (October 8th, 2013):
Please be advised that BitFunder is implementing the following rules and procedures:
As of October 8th, 2013, BitFunder will not accept new registrations from any United States persons or entities. All new registrants must supply the information required to obtain "Verified" status on their linked WeExchange account. BitFunder may, in its sole direction, decline to accept any new registrations.
As of October 8th, 2013, all current BitFunder users who are located in the United States or are determined to be United States persons or entities will not be able to enter into any new positions on the Bitfunder website, and, as of November 1, 2013, such users will also not be allowed to sell positions on the BitFunder website.
All current BitFunder users who are not United States persons or entities must supply the information required to obtain "Verified" status on their linked WeExchange account before November 1, 2013. Any such users who fail to provide the necessary information will not be able to enter into or sell positions on the BitFunder website as of November 1, 2013.
Users will be able to withdraw holdings and Bitcoins from their BitFunder accounts before and after November 1, 2013.
All assets and issuers must demonstrate that they meet BitFunder's requirements for the listing of assets, or the assets and issuers will, at BitFunder's sole discretion, be denied access to, or removed from, the site. Issuers will be notified of any additional information needed to demonstrate compliance with BitFunder's requirements.
BitFunder appreciates your understanding in these matters as we move forward.
Sincerely, BitFunder
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October 08, 2013, 09:03:03 PM |
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crash incoming: Important Notice (October 8th, 2013):
Please be advised that BitFunder is implementing the following rules and procedures:
As of October 8th, 2013, BitFunder will not accept new registrations from any United States persons or entities. All new registrants must supply the information required to obtain "Verified" status on their linked WeExchange account. BitFunder may, in its sole direction, decline to accept any new registrations.
As of October 8th, 2013, all current BitFunder users who are located in the United States or are determined to be United States persons or entities will not be able to enter into any new positions on the Bitfunder website, and, as of November 1, 2013, such users will also not be allowed to sell positions on the BitFunder website.
All current BitFunder users who are not United States persons or entities must supply the information required to obtain "Verified" status on their linked WeExchange account before November 1, 2013. Any such users who fail to provide the necessary information will not be able to enter into or sell positions on the BitFunder website as of November 1, 2013.
Users will be able to withdraw holdings and Bitcoins from their BitFunder accounts before and after November 1, 2013.
All assets and issuers must demonstrate that they meet BitFunder's requirements for the listing of assets, or the assets and issuers will, at BitFunder's sole discretion, be denied access to, or removed from, the site. Issuers will be notified of any additional information needed to demonstrate compliance with BitFunder's requirements.
BitFunder appreciates your understanding in these matters as we move forward.
Sincerely, BitFunder Wow. I wish we had more concrete information about what's causing this (i.e., more specific than "the US government is cracking down on Bitcoin securities"). Was Ukyo contacted by someone from the SEC or something?
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October 08, 2013, 09:09:58 PM |
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Wow. I wish we had more concrete information about what's causing this (i.e., more specific than "the US government is cracking down on Bitcoin securities"). Was Ukyo contacted by someone from the SEC or something?
I have no reason to believe that the US IS cracking down on BTC securities. There have been no public statements by the US govt, and I have seen no evidence from the exchanges themselves. I find it unethical that these exchanges are charging fees to their US customers, but won't let them hold positions.
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October 08, 2013, 09:10:37 PM |
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And no chance to export into direct shares on bitfunder
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chriswilmer
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October 08, 2013, 09:14:19 PM |
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Wow. I wish we had more concrete information about what's causing this (i.e., more specific than "the US government is cracking down on Bitcoin securities"). Was Ukyo contacted by someone from the SEC or something?
I have no reason to believe that the US IS cracking down on BTC securities. There have been no public statements by the US govt, and I have seen no evidence from the exchanges themselves. I find it unethical that these exchanges are charging fees to their US customers, but won't let them hold positions. Exactly, that's why I want to know what IS causing this.
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October 08, 2013, 09:15:02 PM |
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crash incoming: Important Notice (October 8th, 2013):
Please be advised that BitFunder is implementing the following rules and procedures:
As of October 8th, 2013, BitFunder will not accept new registrations from any United States persons or entities. All new registrants must supply the information required to obtain "Verified" status on their linked WeExchange account. BitFunder may, in its sole direction, decline to accept any new registrations.
As of October 8th, 2013, all current BitFunder users who are located in the United States or are determined to be United States persons or entities will not be able to enter into any new positions on the Bitfunder website, and, as of November 1, 2013, such users will also not be allowed to sell positions on the BitFunder website.
All current BitFunder users who are not United States persons or entities must supply the information required to obtain "Verified" status on their linked WeExchange account before November 1, 2013. Any such users who fail to provide the necessary information will not be able to enter into or sell positions on the BitFunder website as of November 1, 2013.
Users will be able to withdraw holdings and Bitcoins from their BitFunder accounts before and after November 1, 2013.
All assets and issuers must demonstrate that they meet BitFunder's requirements for the listing of assets, or the assets and issuers will, at BitFunder's sole discretion, be denied access to, or removed from, the site. Issuers will be notified of any additional information needed to demonstrate compliance with BitFunder's requirements.
BitFunder appreciates your understanding in these matters as we move forward.
Sincerely, BitFunder Wow. I wish we had more concrete information about what's causing this (i.e., more specific than "the US government is cracking down on Bitcoin securities"). Was Ukyo contacted by someone from the SEC or something? Fawk... waiting to buy more and BAM... this will make it so I could get the price I want but won't be able to.
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October 08, 2013, 11:18:11 PM |
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And no chance to export into direct shares on bitfunder
Not a US citizen, but I am sure Ukyo/Bitfunder will or should facilitate a transfer to direct shares or either a transfer to Havelock. Ukyo thread is located here: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=130117.0 (that thread is on fire now!) Anyway, that should have been clarified before posting that unfortunate notice.
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freedomno1
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October 09, 2013, 04:51:14 AM |
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And no chance to export into direct shares on bitfunder
Not a US citizen, but I am sure Ukyo/Bitfunder will or should facilitate a transfer to direct shares or either a transfer to Havelock. Ukyo thread is located here: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=130117.0 (that thread is on fire now!) Anyway, that should have been clarified before posting that unfortunate notice. Well for now havelocks reply is that the legal team was not able to assist them with enhanced details so the status remains the same That said of the three exchanges havelock has been the most proactive with their team in my opinion Expect the minimum being registration/verificiation though if it is anything like Canadianbitcoins Government issued photo ID (Drivers License or Passport) Recent utility bill, cell phone bill, bank statement, credit card statement, or other nationally recognized company statement (within the last 3 months) that contains your name and address Verify your phone number by answering a quick call from us https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/verification.phphttps://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=135035.msg3295426#msg3295426
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October 09, 2013, 05:18:33 AM |
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TAT - any chance the uncompleted transfers to BitFunder can be moved to Havelock? I'm sure it's a pain, but I'd rather not have to get involved with this mess... 
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October 09, 2013, 05:38:11 AM |
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Important Notice (October 8th, 2013): All current BitFunder users who are not United States persons or entities must supply the information required to obtain "Verified" status on their linked WeExchange account before November 1, 2013. Any such users who fail to provide the necessary information will not be able to enter into or sell positions on the BitFunder website as of November 1, 2013.
So, to be clear, US entities need not supply "Verified" status on WeExchange? Users will be able to withdraw holdings and Bitcoins from their BitFunder accounts before and after November 1, 2013.
So users will be able to withdraw Bitcoins via a manner other than WeExchange? There are a few logical inconsistencies in this announcement, or perhaps I am reading it incorrectly.
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viboracecata
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October 09, 2013, 08:16:38 AM |
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Why these platforms closed? Can anyone post the back reason?
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October 09, 2013, 08:20:01 AM |
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Why these platforms closed? Can anyone post the back reason?
The US government is 'protecting' its citizens against the evils of bitcoin stocks.
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October 09, 2013, 08:35:05 AM |
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Why these platforms closed? Can anyone post the back reason?
The US government is 'protecting' its citizens against the evils of bitcoin stocks. Well, they are protecting some citizens all right.
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October 09, 2013, 10:13:57 AM |
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When you look at how much dough has been lost through scams (Labcoin?) and just sheer incompetence maybe this is a good thing. Between the 'short's BS and burnside's 'closing to US citizens' -> 'no I'm not...' -> 'closing for everybody' process, this scene is just embarassing... 
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October 09, 2013, 10:16:35 AM Last edit: October 09, 2013, 07:23:00 PM by glendall |
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What's needed is a p2p exchange. Some folks are working on this, hoping their hard work will come to fruition. edit: found bitcoinx project, gives me hope ; http://www.bitcoinx.org/
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October 09, 2013, 10:32:38 AM |
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What's needed is a p2p exchange. Some folks are working on this, hoping their hard work will come to fruition.
I'm not sure a hidden service wouldn't work just as well. Somebody should just buy Burnside's code and use Tor.
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tinus42
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October 09, 2013, 10:43:37 AM |
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I am outta here guys. It was fun.... I am selling several shares....
it is gonna go less than 0.7
Lophie, so soon a change of heart?  It's been a mad rollercoaster ride these last few days.  I dumped all my AM100s (56) at 0.012 which I had bought at 0.018. Thought I could buy them back cheaper but that hasn't happened.  sooo buy high, sell low? k.. Well they dropped back to 0.011 now. I think they will go lower as fear of Havelock blocking US citizens grows, then I'll buy back in again. 
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Don't care for Star Wars anymore but am stuck with the avatar
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October 09, 2013, 11:26:33 AM |
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Div prediction? I'd say 0.007~8.
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Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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