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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3918594 times)
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January 29, 2014, 11:22:38 AM
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Yesterday I've submitted a list of questions for friedcat to Jutarul who, hopefully, is going to forward them at the next board meeting that is supposed to take place approximately 'before the end of January'. Of course, it would be excellent to get answers to exactly those questions - which are probably the most burning ones - but before everyone gets their hopes up just too high, it may still serve friedcat as a reference point on what we'd like to know from him. I tried to distill the list to the most important questions without going into detail too much.

Questions from the shareholders to friedcat and the ASICMiner team:

  • What is the current status of the 3rd generation chips?
  • What are the estimated time frames for - respectively - producing, deploying, and selling the 3rd generation chips and hardware?
  • There seems to be a certain resemblance of BITMAIN's mining hardware to ASICMiner's. Is ASICMiner affiliated with BITMAIN in any way? If yes, how? If no, have discarded designs (e.g. 2nd generation chips) been sold, released or lost to other entities?
  • What are the reasons for the drastically reduced rate and amount of communication coming from ASICMiner over the last couple of months?
  • What is the currently anticipated long-term strategy for ASICMiner after the 3rd generation?
  • What is the status and capacity of the immersion-cooling data center, and will it house the 3rd generation hardware?

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January 29, 2014, 11:54:46 AM
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Good set of questions - except Jan 31 is Chinese New Year - and continues for 10 days after that. Don't hold your breath for a reply.
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January 29, 2014, 12:25:09 PM
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Update

The updates of the chips can be found here: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=438359.0

ASICMiner is not affiliated with AntMiner in any forms of shareholding, technical sharing or business partnership.

The tapout date is pulled back to early Feburary due to further modifications for robustness and stability, but mass delivery date is still March.

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January 29, 2014, 12:43:15 PM
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Update

The updates of the chips can be found here: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=438359.0

ASICMiner is not affiliated with AntMiner in any forms of shareholding, technical sharing or business partnership.

The tapout date is pulled back to early Feburary due to further modifications for robustness and stability, but mass delivery date is still March.

Well, that was a quick reply, didn't have to hold my breath for too long Wink
Thanks for the heads up, VERY MUCH appreciated! Keep us posted, please! Smiley

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January 29, 2014, 12:44:55 PM
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Update

The updates of the chips can be found here: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=438359.0

ASICMiner is not affiliated with AntMiner in any forms of shareholding, technical sharing or business partnership.

The tapout date is pulled back to early Feburary due to further modifications for robustness and stability, but mass delivery date is still March.

Well, that was a quick reply, didn't have to hold my breath for too long Wink
Thanks for the heads up, VERY MUCH appreciated! Keep us posted, please! Smiley

Awesome news - glad I kept 50% of my shares. Mass delivery in March sounds amazing!!
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January 29, 2014, 12:47:42 PM
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Update

The updates of the chips can be found here: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=438359.0

ASICMiner is not affiliated with AntMiner in any forms of shareholding, technical sharing or business partnership.

The tapout date is pulled back to early Feburary due to further modifications for robustness and stability, but mass delivery date is still March.

Well, that was a quick reply, didn't have to hold my breath for too long Wink
Thanks for the heads up, VERY MUCH appreciated! Keep us posted, please! Smiley

Awesome news - glad I kept 50% of my shares. Mass delivery in March sounds amazing!!


HELLL YEAAHHHHHHHH Cheesy
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January 29, 2014, 12:53:20 PM
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Update

The updates of the chips can be found here: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=438359.0

ASICMiner is not affiliated with AntMiner in any forms of shareholding, technical sharing or business partnership.

The tapout date is pulled back to early Feburary due to further modifications for robustness and stability, but mass delivery date is still March.

thanks for the update!
(shareprice to da moon? Roll Eyes)
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January 29, 2014, 12:57:04 PM
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The march delivery date is the real kicker. I didn't think that was possible even with January tapeout. Expect share prices to double very quickly.
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January 29, 2014, 01:01:54 PM
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Update

The updates of the chips can be found here: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=438359.0

ASICMiner is not affiliated with AntMiner in any forms of shareholding, technical sharing or business partnership.

The tapout date is pulled back to early Feburary due to further modifications for robustness and stability, but mass delivery date is still March.

Well, that was a quick reply, didn't have to hold my breath for too long Wink
Thanks for the heads up, VERY MUCH appreciated! Keep us posted, please! Smiley
You have my vote for PR guy!
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January 29, 2014, 01:05:56 PM
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Update

The updates of the chips can be found here: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=438359.0

ASICMiner is not affiliated with AntMiner in any forms of shareholding, technical sharing or business partnership.

The tapout date is pulled back to early Feburary due to further modifications for robustness and stability, but mass delivery date is still March.

Well, that was a quick reply, didn't have to hold my breath for too long Wink
Thanks for the heads up, VERY MUCH appreciated! Keep us posted, please! Smiley
You have my vote for PR guy!

Doesnt PR stands for "press relation"? i though IR (investors relation) was more relevant?!
Anyway, best day ever, i am such in a good mood now Smiley
Thanks alot Mr Friedcat. And happy chinese new year to you! i'll eat noodles (which stands for longevity right?) to celebrate it Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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January 29, 2014, 01:07:38 PM
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the share price will skyrocket now, I wish if I bought when they were lower....


EDIT: I cant even access havelockinvestments now, it is really under heavy load at the moment, I keep getting the cloud flare page...
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January 29, 2014, 01:14:38 PM
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sit back, relax and let the good times roll
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January 29, 2014, 01:15:50 PM
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the share price will skyrocket now, I wish if I bought when they were lower....


EDIT: I cant even access havelockinvestments now, it is really under heavy load at the moment, I keep getting the cloud flare page...

yeah, I'm getting that at the moment. Shows wicked demand for AM shares ..............
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January 29, 2014, 01:39:35 PM
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I think old and new investors alike will be pleased in coming months.  Smiley

We hope so. But would be nice if we could access the only place to buy and sell shares Smiley
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January 29, 2014, 01:40:25 PM
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the share price will skyrocket now, I wish if I bought when they were lower....


EDIT: I cant even access havelockinvestments now, it is really under heavy load at the moment, I keep getting the cloud flare page...

yeah, I'm getting that at the moment. Shows wicked demand for AM shares ..............

Dont be blind and dont try to force your wishes on someones elses opinion please. If you look at what is happening you would know that order book at Havelock is extremely shallow and panic traders will push price way above what is worth it. But the truth is ASICminer already peaked in their mining business already and unless they will explore other ventures anything above 0.5/share is in my opinion pure bubble. There is way to much competition already and even if 1/4 of what is being planned by other companies would become a real, AM still cant achieve those 20% of network. Even if they overdeliver and overachive in every aspect they still would only hold around 5% (Dont get me wrong that is impressive) and a big part of their income was from selling HW(if not the bigger half?) and now BTC is worth 10x and you cannot charge what you used to in BTC too (not even close). So AM realistically can earn something around 0.1 - 0.15btc/share in next 1-2years and after that it will go downhill (meaning it will get even harder in mining business).

So please dont try to make people buy shares that will probably make them lose value in long term.
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January 29, 2014, 01:48:35 PM
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the share price will skyrocket now, I wish if I bought when they were lower....


EDIT: I cant even access havelockinvestments now, it is really under heavy load at the moment, I keep getting the cloud flare page...

yeah, I'm getting that at the moment. Shows wicked demand for AM shares ..............

Dont be blind and dont try to force your wishes on someones elses opinion please. If you look at what is happening you would know that order book at Havelock is extremely shallow and panic traders will push price way above what is worth it. But the truth is ASICminer already peaked in their mining business already and unless they will explore other ventures anything above 0.5/share is in my opinion pure bubble. There is way to much competition already and even if 1/4 of what is being planned by other companies would become a real, AM still cant achieve those 20% of network. Even if they overdeliver and overachive in every aspect they still would only hold around 5% (Dont get me wrong that is impressive) and a big part of their income was from selling HW(if not the bigger half?) and now BTC is worth 10x and you cannot charge what you used to in BTC too (not even close). So AM realistically can earn something around 0.1 - 0.15btc/share in next 1-2years and after that it will go downhill (meaning it will get even harder in mining business).

So please dont try to make people buy shares that will probably make them lose value in long term.

 If AM deliver what they say they will in March, they will be easily be worth 1BTC medium-term. I am not trying to make people buy shares, people can make their own mind up.

Don't patronize people saying things like "So please dont try to make people buy shares that will probably make them lose value in long term." You have no idea more than me what AM shares will be worth long term. Everyone can make their own mind up
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January 29, 2014, 01:49:31 PM
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the share price will skyrocket now, I wish if I bought when they were lower....


EDIT: I cant even access havelockinvestments now, it is really under heavy load at the moment, I keep getting the cloud flare page...

yeah, I'm getting that at the moment. Shows wicked demand for AM shares ..............

Dont be blind and dont try to force your wishes on someones elses opinion please. If you look at what is happening you would know that order book at Havelock is extremely shallow and panic traders will push price way above what is worth it. But the truth is ASICminer already peaked in their mining business already and unless they will explore other ventures anything above 0.5/share is in my opinion pure bubble. There is way to much competition already and even if 1/4 of what is being planned by other companies would become a real, AM still cant achieve those 20% of network. Even if they overdeliver and overachive in every aspect they still would only hold around 5% (Dont get me wrong that is impressive) and a big part of their income was from selling HW(if not the bigger half?) and now BTC is worth 10x and you cannot charge what you used to in BTC too (not even close). So AM realistically can earn something around 0.1 - 0.15btc/share in next 1-2years and after that it will go downhill (meaning it will get even harder in mining business).

So please dont try to make people buy shares that will probably make them lose value in long term.

I will buy 20 shares at 0.5 BTC from you right now, will you sell them ?
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January 29, 2014, 02:03:32 PM
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Thanks for the update FC.

This is terrific news. AM is on track to deliver, within just a couple of months, chips that are significantly more efficient than another other ASICs shipping or announced. I don't think that point can be overstated. Bottom fishing on this one is done -- they are about to dominate the ASIC chip market.
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January 29, 2014, 02:06:25 PM
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the share price will skyrocket now, I wish if I bought when they were lower....


EDIT: I cant even access havelockinvestments now, it is really under heavy load at the moment, I keep getting the cloud flare page...

yeah, I'm getting that at the moment. Shows wicked demand for AM shares ..............

Dont be blind and dont try to force your wishes on someones elses opinion please. If you look at what is happening you would know that order book at Havelock is extremely shallow and panic traders will push price way above what is worth it. But the truth is ASICminer already peaked in their mining business already and unless they will explore other ventures anything above 0.5/share is in my opinion pure bubble. There is way to much competition already and even if 1/4 of what is being planned by other companies would become a real, AM still cant achieve those 20% of network. Even if they overdeliver and overachive in every aspect they still would only hold around 5% (Dont get me wrong that is impressive) and a big part of their income was from selling HW(if not the bigger half?) and now BTC is worth 10x and you cannot charge what you used to in BTC too (not even close). So AM realistically can earn something around 0.1 - 0.15btc/share in next 1-2years and after that it will go downhill (meaning it will get even harder in mining business).

So please dont try to make people buy shares that will probably make them lose value in long term.

I will buy 20 shares at 0.5 BTC from you right now, will you sell them ?

The havelock share price is 0.63 and rising - are you mad?
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January 29, 2014, 02:12:33 PM
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Thanks for the update FC.

This is terrific news. AM is on track to deliver, within just a couple of months, chips that are significantly more efficient than another other ASICs shipping or announced. I don't think that point can be overstated. Bottom fishing on this one is done -- they are about to dominate the ASIC chip market.

Not only that but they are only on 40nm density which means there is still lots of room for increased efficiency in later chips. I like it!

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