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April 09, 2014, 08:30:39 PM |
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Is everyone expecting to not receive a dividend until the chips are shipped?
There should be a few satoshis at some point, as it looks like a block was found recently. So most of the gen3 batch 1 was send out as "samples" for free? I hope not ... according Friedcat's updates it should be "2-20PH" ... |
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klondike_bar
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April 09, 2014, 08:30:48 PM |
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So in reality, a customer wouldn't even need to design a PCB? Anyone could simply outsource the work for assembly, toss them the design that already exists, and have a working product? This seems too easy.. How do i order chips?  presumably. however, open-source PCB design is not always the easy solution (look at the dozens of failed K16 projects that took place using avalon chips only a few months ago) that said, im watching closely for chip prices and PCB designs. I have almost no eagle skills, but am definitely looking into sourcing a local fabrication/assembly if it makes sense when comparing the risks/costs against the simplicity of buying pre-made assemblies from a competitior |
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minerpumpkin
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April 09, 2014, 08:36:00 PM |
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Is everyone expecting to not receive a dividend until the chips are shipped?
There should be a few satoshis at some point, as it looks like a block was found recently. So most of the gen3 batch 1 was send out as "samples" for free? I hope not ... according Friedcat's updates it should be "2-20PH" ... The "first" batch was most likely an engineering or sample batch. You don't order 50+ wafers of chips (200000+ chips) when you don't know yet whether they're going to work at all. That engineering batch was spread across the developers and potential big-customers, and some of it remained of course at AM for optimization of the reference PCBs, etc... The "first real batch" of multiple PH/s is most likely in production as we speak. I expect it to arrive in early May. |
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minerpumpkin
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April 10, 2014, 09:31:52 AM |
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That was just some MAJOR volume on Havelock! 150 shares approx.
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elmwar
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April 10, 2014, 11:40:37 AM |
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It could be someone selling shares to himself. Most of the shares were at one price. That many buy orders at a single price isn't normal.
The owner wouldn't lose many shares. Only cost difference would be Havelock's transaction fee. And it could scare people into selling lower.
But it could be anything.
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necro_nemesis
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April 10, 2014, 12:52:32 PM |
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That was just some MAJOR volume on Havelock! 150 shares approx.
$35K, not exactly earth shattering but I guess it's all relative to the low volume. |
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Caesium
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April 10, 2014, 02:09:08 PM |
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Anybody had a transfer from direct to havelock done recently? Been waiting for mine for 2 weeks..
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April 10, 2014, 02:45:02 PM |
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Anybody had a transfer from direct to havelock done recently? Been waiting for mine for 2 weeks..
I did one in the middle of March and it went through just fine. It would be hard to tell if they did transfer though - I didn't receive a confirmation from Friedcat, just from Havelock requesting the transfer. When dividends came out thats what I noticed that the shares had moved over. We haven't had dividends so maybe the shares have been moved over already you just don't know it yet? |
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Caesium
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April 10, 2014, 03:10:46 PM |
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Anybody had a transfer from direct to havelock done recently? Been waiting for mine for 2 weeks..
I did one in the middle of March and it went through just fine. It would be hard to tell if they did transfer though - I didn't receive a confirmation from Friedcat, just from Havelock requesting the transfer. When dividends came out thats what I noticed that the shares had moved over. We haven't had dividends so maybe the shares have been moved over already you just don't know it yet? Well, they'd appear in my havelock account so I could trade them, and they haven't so far. But you're right, there's been no dividend since I requested it, so could just be friedcat isn't bothering until there's a dividend to pay. |
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April 10, 2014, 11:25:24 PM |
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There is a fairly large sell of shares going on in Havelock, today and yesterday. When this happens I figure it is due to some reason that has not been made it to the general public yet. Anyone want to help an outsider out?
Are dividends expected to crumble with Rockminer taking over the hardware sales now? The chip looks good, it looks like mass production is underway, why are so many people selling? I suppose it could be an aberration, but definitely seems like a trend right now on Havelock.
edit: ya maybe I'm over-reacting. maybe it was only a 100 shares. still... things seem to be trending down when I'd imagine they'd be trending up.
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April 10, 2014, 11:32:12 PM |
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There is a fairly large sell of shares going on in Havelock, today and yesterday. When this happens I figure it is due to some reason that has not been made it to the general public yet. Anyone want to help an outsider out?
Are dividends expected to crumble with Rockminer taking over the hardware sales now? The chip looks good, it looks like mass production is underway, why are so many people selling? I suppose it could be an aberration, but definitely seems like a trend right now on Havelock.
edit: ya maybe I'm over-reacting. maybe it was only a 100 shares. still... things seem to be trending down when I'd imagine they'd be trending up.
Likely people panicking about Bitcoin exposure as it tanks.. have to sell shares to get back into $$$ / €€€ |
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April 10, 2014, 11:34:27 PM |
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Aw I see, thanks.
I would have thought it would be the other way, that the share price would be going up as bitcoin is worth less USD -- but I made the error of thinking of the situation logically when people are fundamentally more prone to illogical behavior in markets. What you said seems more likely the case than my estimation of it...
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lunarboy
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April 11, 2014, 06:50:05 AM |
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Quite excited by these low BTC prices. I've not seen it written down anywhere but i'm assuming Gen 3 sales will be priced in dollars and paid for in BTC.  If this is the case? I'm looking forward to some nice dividends in the next few months and hoping the exchange rate stays as low as possible for the bulk of the Gen 3 sales.  |
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JoTheKhan
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April 11, 2014, 07:28:39 AM |
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Alcheminer is a little overvalued imho, their numbers also seem to be a little off. 40% stake for $11M at $400/BTC |
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lophie
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April 11, 2014, 07:32:54 AM |
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Alcheminer is a little overvalued imho, their numbers also seem to be a little off. 40% stake for $11M at $400/BTC Also BTC is at a sitback currently and I am very bullish about exchange rates. What will happen if BTC jumped to $600? That is a minimum of falling from 0.14BTC to 0.8BTC |
Will take me a while to climb up again, But where is a will, there is a way...
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maxl
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April 11, 2014, 12:31:31 PM |
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Propably they got some fake parts. They look exactly as the normal ones but they don't work like the original ones.
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April 11, 2014, 12:44:14 PM |
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a "large sell" is actually a "large buy" if you look at it the other way around  |
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minerpumpkin
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April 11, 2014, 01:10:40 PM |
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Propably they got some fake parts. They look exactly as the normal ones but they don't work like the original ones.
Which is kind of ridiculous... Those parts are very cheap anyways and... well.. why? |
I should have gotten into Bitcoin back in 1992...
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