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The real price for 390 cards is around 250$. Don't look at the old amazon offers which are ridiculously high. However I warn you (and everyone planning to invest in new rigs) that most probably by the time of arriving of the cards, the profit will drop so much that the ROI will be impossible in near future. Look at the plummeting prices of ETH and ETC curently. The pressure on ZEC and XMR is too high now, so they will not hold the current price for long.
I agree with that. If you pay more than $0.12 per kWh, it is not profitable to mine the ZEC, let alone ROI. So it's not worth buying 8 rigs?
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December 17, 2016, 05:00:51 PM |
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The real price for 390 cards is around 250$. Don't look at the old amazon offers which are ridiculously high. However I warn you (and everyone planning to invest in new rigs) that most probably by the time of arriving of the cards, the profit will drop so much that the ROI will be impossible in near future. Look at the plummeting prices of ETH and ETC curently. The pressure on ZEC and XMR is too high now, so they will not hold the current price for long.
I agree with that. If you pay more than $0.12 per kWh, it is not profitable to mine the ZEC, let alone ROI. So it's not worth buying 8 rigs? Buying 8 rigs to mine just zec wouldn't be wise ATM Now mining something else in the down time of zec wouldn't be bad I pay .13kWh and I haven't had a month yet that I didn't profit from Granted some months I did better than others Someone that pays high for power like me just has to keep a closer eye on the market
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December 17, 2016, 05:34:09 PM |
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So it's not worth buying 8 rigs?
Buying 8 rigs to mine just zec wouldn't be wise ATM Now mining something else in the down time of zec wouldn't be bad I pay .13kWh and I haven't had a month yet that I didn't profit from Granted some months I did better than others Someone that pays high for power like me just has to keep a closer eye on the market Well, I won't be mining just ZEC obviously .. Would just be whatever is the most profitable.
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December 17, 2016, 06:04:33 PM |
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I have ton of dead Nvidia video cards, especially that EVGA brand, 2 years max. I have been used and abused ton of AMD video cards and none is dead. I promised myself to never ever buy Nvidia chip video card again.
Want to share the specs and how you used those cards? E.g. approx. capacity usage and how many hours did they last before they died? How many alternatives have you tried and what's your personal most durable one now? Nothing modify, just plug and play stuffs. A couple EVGA 9800GTX, a couple EVGA 8600GT, a few 8600 none EVGA, all dead within a couple years. I have 4 computers at our house. My impression at this point is to preventing Nvidia at all cost.
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Go Big or Go Home.....
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December 17, 2016, 07:37:43 PM |
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I have ton of dead Nvidia video cards, especially that EVGA brand, 2 years max. I have been used and abused ton of AMD video cards and none is dead. I promised myself to never ever buy Nvidia chip video card again.
Want to share the specs and how you used those cards? E.g. approx. capacity usage and how many hours did they last before they died? How many alternatives have you tried and what's your personal most durable one now? Nothing modify, just plug and play stuffs. A couple EVGA 9800GTX, a couple EVGA 8600GT, a few 8600 none EVGA, all dead within a couple years. I have 4 computers at our house. My impression at this point is to preventing Nvidia at all cost. I have to agree with him there. I've been in the IT field for many years and Nvidia based cards fry a LOT more often than AMD/ATI Cards as far as I can remember back. Just by normal use, heck even swapping them into different computers they can just get zapped by static E . Never had this happen on AMD/ATI cards/ I like how they (Nvidias)are usually faster, more stable but I think that has been all driver related f-ups from AMD.
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December 17, 2016, 08:26:50 PM |
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I have ton of dead Nvidia video cards, especially that EVGA brand, 2 years max. I have been used and abused ton of AMD video cards and none is dead. I promised myself to never ever buy Nvidia chip video card again.
Want to share the specs and how you used those cards? E.g. approx. capacity usage and how many hours did they last before they died? How many alternatives have you tried and what's your personal most durable one now? Nothing modify, just plug and play stuffs. A couple EVGA 9800GTX, a couple EVGA 8600GT, a few 8600 none EVGA, all dead within a couple years. I have 4 computers at our house. My impression at this point is to preventing Nvidia at all cost. I have to agree with him there. I've been in the IT field for many years and Nvidia based cards fry a LOT more often than AMD/ATI Cards as far as I can remember back. Just by normal use, heck even swapping them into different computers they can just get zapped by static E . Never had this happen on AMD/ATI cards/ I like how they (Nvidias)are usually faster, more stable but I think that has been all driver related f-ups from AMD. i cant speak about nvidia quality but i have been pretty hard on some of my older amd gpu's and they have stood the test of time. in the post pentium early days amd had a bad rep about burning up when trying to overclock too much or play with frequencies in a haphazard fashion.. looks like they have learned from earlier designs and created a very robust product in result.
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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December 17, 2016, 08:32:02 PM |
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I have to agree with him there. I've been in the IT field for many years and Nvidia based cards fry a LOT more often than AMD/ATI Cards as far as I can remember back.
i remember seeing a lot of posts in tech forums about people having to "bake" dead 8800s (especially ones pushed hard in folding@home and such) to get the solder to reflow, bringing them back to life. worked quite often but was usually only temporary.
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December 17, 2016, 08:43:07 PM |
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Personally, I am taking advantage of this time in mining history and am buying up all the 280x's I can afford. There will be a time when I am glad I did.
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December 17, 2016, 08:49:04 PM |
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Personally, I am taking advantage of this time in mining history and am buying up all the 280x's I can afford. There will be a time when I am glad I did.
i have a 7970 thats due for another re-baking if you're interested. $50
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December 17, 2016, 10:08:50 PM |
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@Claymore Can you please fix this issue in miner manager:  In this case I run two miners(ZEC and ETH) with -di 012 and with -di 3, yet I'm getting two lines of 4 GPU temps
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December 17, 2016, 10:36:42 PM |
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its not a miner issue but the report manager's.
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December 18, 2016, 12:59:03 AM |
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Hard currency increases
When will issue Version 10
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December 18, 2016, 01:08:50 AM |
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i don't understand why you guys always ask for new version f.t higher speed. the majority of miners are using Claymore's app. If your speed improve by 10% for example, other miners will get 10% also. End up, you will get the same amount of zcash. You won't get any benefit out of new version except for higher difficulty.
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December 18, 2016, 01:31:56 AM |
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i don't understand why you guys always ask for new version f.t higher speed. the majority of miners are using Claymore's app. If your speed improve by 10% for example, other miners will get 10% also. End up, you will get the same amount of zcash. You won't get any benefit out of new version except for higher difficulty.
But the difficulty is also greatly increased the value of the currency dropped
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December 18, 2016, 02:54:36 AM |
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i don't understand why you guys always ask for new version f.t higher speed. the majority of miners are using Claymore's app. If your speed improve by 10% for example, other miners will get 10% also. End up, you will get the same amount of zcash. You won't get any benefit out of new version except for higher difficulty.
But the difficulty is also greatly increased the value of the currency dropped Would you care to elaborate this claim? How does difficulty and price relate to each other?
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December 18, 2016, 03:14:16 AM |
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i don't understand why you guys always ask for new version f.t higher speed. the majority of miners are using Claymore's app. If your speed improve by 10% for example, other miners will get 10% also. End up, you will get the same amount of zcash. You won't get any benefit out of new version except for higher difficulty.
Most of us don't make huge profits mining any coin, but we like messing around with it. I think that's one of the biggest reasons.
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December 18, 2016, 04:42:21 AM |
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i don't understand why you guys always ask for new version f.t higher speed. the majority of miners are using Claymore's app. If your speed improve by 10% for example, other miners will get 10% also. End up, you will get the same amount of zcash. You won't get any benefit out of new version except for higher difficulty.
Not everyone is mining with amd on windows. Every little bit helps relative to nvidia miners and linux miners. But asking for a new version is very annoying.
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December 18, 2016, 05:21:01 AM |
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I had a Fury x with crashing trouble. Card was recognized and drivers installed fine but it would mine for a few shares and hang with a driver recovery or crash. I reverted back to 15.12 with no luck. Tried claymore 8.0 and it would mine longer but still crash. I finally removed it and re-seated it in the pcie slot (only 2 gpus on this rig no risers) and replugged in the power cables. Worked top notch after that lol, just weird.
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December 18, 2016, 06:16:08 AM Last edit: December 18, 2016, 06:58:30 AM by mprep |
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i don't understand why you guys always ask for new version f.t higher speed. the majority of miners are using Claymore's app. If your speed improve by 10% for example, other miners will get 10% also. End up, you will get the same amount of zcash. You won't get any benefit out of new version except for higher difficulty.
Not everyone is mining with amd on windows. Every little bit helps relative to nvidia miners and linux miners. But asking for a new version is very annoying. *waves* Majority of MY ZEC mining is with GTX 1070s, by a fairly wide margin - but that's looking likely to shift over the next week or less as "basket" profitability has dropped across the board making their ORIGINAL intended reason to exist competative on profitability. I'll probably still leave the older 2GB and smaller cards on ZEC though.
Hi videocards HD77xx series supported?
I have HD 7750s and HD 7870s running v9.1 Doesn't work worth beans on the older Terascale stuff though, very poor hashrates at best.
I have ton of dead Nvidia video cards, especially that EVGA brand, 2 years max. I have been used and abused ton of AMD video cards and none is dead. I promised myself to never ever buy Nvidia chip video card again.
Want to share the specs and how you used those cards? E.g. approx. capacity usage and how many hours did they last before they died? How many alternatives have you tried and what's your personal most durable one now? Nothing modify, just plug and play stuffs. A couple EVGA 9800GTX, a couple EVGA 8600GT, a few 8600 none EVGA, all dead within a couple years. I have 4 computers at our house. My impression at this point is to preventing Nvidia at all cost. I've found over the years that the BRAND tends to have more to do with reliability than the GPU maker. You're also talking ANCIENT history - EVGA has gotten a lot better since the pre-GTX days, though I still don't equate them to Gigabyte or MSI, much less Sapphire.
I have ton of dead Nvidia video cards, especially that EVGA brand, 2 years max. I have been used and abused ton of AMD video cards and none is dead. I promised myself to never ever buy Nvidia chip video card again.
The majority of cards I have had actually DIE have been HIS AMD cards. The issue hasn't been the chipset - the issue is the CHEAP SLEEVE BEARING FANS they use on most of their cards. I have yet to have NVidia card actually die. I have had quite a few cards out of machines that got so long in the tooth that I ended up retiring them even though they still worked - some of them were of brands that don't even exist any more.
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The majority of cards I have had actually DIE have been HIS AMD cards.
The issue hasn't been the chipset - the issue is the CHEAP SLEEVE BEARING FANS they use on most of their cards.
so you would not recommend to buy a HIS HD7990 gpu? Is this brand possible to undervolt? (not like gigabite, where you have a limited chance to undervolt if even possible...) thx for your reply 
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