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Author Topic: Claymore's ZCash/BTG AMD GPU Miner v12.6 (Windows/Linux)  (Read 3839409 times)
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December 25, 2016, 11:42:53 AM
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No, now 430 hash for 1070...

See edits. Still isn't worth it...

Further Edit:

Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
                    Edit:       Edit:
Card   Price   Hash/s   Power (W)   H/$
1070  $400    380        100            0.95
Fury   $260    300        100            1.15

Full Bore Setup
Card   Price   Hash/s   H/$
1070  $400    430      1.075
Fury   $260    350      1.346

The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look.  The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.

it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330

If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong.  AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore.  Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$.  AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.

Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory.  It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash

you must remember than on large scale the less rig you haev that do the job the better
even i dont have nvidia, pascal its truly win, amd fanboys need to admite that,
well considering to build nvidia rig,
hope vega or polaris refresh bring amd to the top again Shocked
haha old gpu will die soon the tahiti king wont pop again
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December 25, 2016, 11:45:39 AM
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Hi!
Claymore v9.2 linux miner how to run windows cygwin terminal?

 Your question is confusing - are you wanting to run the LINUX version of v9.2 in Windows?

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December 25, 2016, 12:09:55 PM
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Hi, dude. I'm curious... What parameters do you use when miner goes to devfee mode? In this mode the miner finds much more shares than it does with my parameters. I'm talking about ZClassic mining.

ZECMINER64 -zpool ssl://zcl.suprnova.cc:4142 -zwal marcelospera.zclassic_frank -zpsw xxxx -i 7

Thanks. I believe you really deserves your devfee for your hard work. Make us rich, please! Cheesy
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December 25, 2016, 12:12:47 PM
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Hi, dude. I'm curious... What parameters do you use when miner goes to devfee mode? In this mode the miner finds much more shares than it does with my parameters. I'm talking about ZClassic mining.

ZECMINER64 -zpool ssl://zcl.suprnova.cc:4142 -zwal marcelospera.zclassic_frank -zpsw xxxx -i 7

Thanks. I believe you really deserves your devfee for your hard work. Make us rich, please! Cheesy


This just happens because diff is lower when dev mining starts, it's the same speed as when you're mining normally

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December 25, 2016, 01:18:28 PM
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No, now 430 hash for 1070...

See edits. Still isn't worth it...

Further Edit:

Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
                    Edit:       Edit:
Card   Price   Hash/s   Power (W)   H/$
1070  $400    380        100            0.95
Fury   $260    300        100            1.15

Full Bore Setup
Card   Price   Hash/s   H/$
1070  $400    430      1.075
Fury   $260    350      1.346

The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look.  The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.

it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330

If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong.  AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore.  Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$.  AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.

Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory.  It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash

you must remember than on large scale the less rig you haev that do the job the better

You are right, Amph. Also, real prices are not listed. AMD Fury is much more than a listed prices. Here is the actual price at the same shop in the EU:

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December 25, 2016, 01:25:59 PM
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Hi ALL
What is the best intensity for Saphire RX480 ref?

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December 25, 2016, 01:45:13 PM
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No, now 430 hash for 1070...

See edits. Still isn't worth it...

Further Edit:

Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
                    Edit:       Edit:
Card   Price   Hash/s   Power (W)   H/$
1070  $400    380        100            0.95
Fury   $260    300        100            1.15

Full Bore Setup
Card   Price   Hash/s   H/$
1070  $400    430      1.075
Fury   $260    350      1.346

The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look.  The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.

it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330

If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong.  AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore.  Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$.  AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.

Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory.  It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash

you must remember than on large scale the less rig you haev that do the job the better

You are right, Amph. Also, real prices are not listed. AMD Fury is much more than a listed prices. Here is the actual price at the same shop in the EU:

https://i.imgur.com/6sItcu6.jpg
On ebay there is some fury at 260 USD:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Graphics-Video-Cards/27386/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fury&rt=nc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-NITRO-Radeon-R9-Fury-100379NTOC-SR-4GB-4096-Bit-HBM-TRI-X-OC-UEFI-Vi-/291648915692?hash=item43e7a148ec:g:A8QAAOSwu1VW7qbd
, also on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186
btw I never bought or tried fury as I know its consume 300W so I prefer to buy 290 or 290x @ 200USD (used). So i wonder if fury consumes 100W
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December 25, 2016, 01:48:46 PM
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Hi!
Claymore v9.2 linux miner how to run windows cygwin terminal?

 Your question is confusing - are you wanting to run the LINUX version of v9.2 in Windows?

Yes
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December 25, 2016, 01:58:01 PM
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No, now 430 hash for 1070...

See edits. Still isn't worth it...

Further Edit:

Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
                    Edit:       Edit:
Card   Price   Hash/s   Power (W)   H/$
1070  $400    380        100            0.95
Fury   $260    300        100            1.15

Full Bore Setup
Card   Price   Hash/s   H/$
1070  $400    430      1.075
Fury   $260    350      1.346

The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look.  The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.

it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330

If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong.  AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore.  Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$.  AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.

Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory.  It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash

you must remember than on large scale the less rig you haev that do the job the better

You are right, Amph. Also, real prices are not listed. AMD Fury is much more than a listed prices. Here is the actual price at the same shop in the EU:


On ebay there is some fury at 260 USD:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Graphics-Video-Cards/27386/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fury&rt=nc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-NITRO-Radeon-R9-Fury-100379NTOC-SR-4GB-4096-Bit-HBM-TRI-X-OC-UEFI-Vi-/291648915692?hash=item43e7a148ec:g:A8QAAOSwu1VW7qbd
, also on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186
btw I never bought or tried fury as I know its consume 300W so I prefer to buy 290 or 290x @ 200USD (used). So i wonder if fury consumes 100W


Funny comparisons..

My nano's are close to 325sol while consuming just over 90watt..

Aint that something  Cool
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December 25, 2016, 01:59:54 PM
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it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330

With what miner?

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December 25, 2016, 02:22:51 PM
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Hi ALL
What is the best intensity for Saphire RX480 ref?

Choose intensity -i 5 or 6, optimal temperature and difference with -i 8 in few h/s.

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December 25, 2016, 02:47:36 PM
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Does any one have any information about coinmiune.pl SSL connection? I'm unable to connect to port 7017, I posted in there thread but no one is willing to answer..
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December 25, 2016, 03:11:28 PM
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What did I do wrong ? : no of mining Huh
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8 

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ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL:(YOU HAVE SPACE HERE)//zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8 

so  my question is why do I want SSL?

HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl

At the moment I have no SSL  on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL  but what do I gain?

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What did I do wrong ? : no of mining Huh
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8 

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ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL:(YOU HAVE SPACE HERE)//zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8 

so  my question is why do I want SSL?

HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl

At the moment I have no SSL  on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL  but what do I gain?
-0.5% devfee in case of using Claymore's miner
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December 25, 2016, 03:23:57 PM
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What did I do wrong ? : no of mining Huh
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8 

Thanks

ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL:(YOU HAVE SPACE HERE)//zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8 

so  my question is why do I want SSL?

HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl

At the moment I have no SSL  on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL  but what do I gain?

The ssl fee is 2% while the non ssl fee is 2.5%. So there is 0.05% difference. But not all pool will accept ssl.
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December 25, 2016, 03:24:20 PM
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No, now 430 hash for 1070...

See edits. Still isn't worth it...

Further Edit:

Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
                    Edit:       Edit:
Card   Price   Hash/s   Power (W)   H/$
1070  $400    380        100            0.95
Fury   $260    300        100            1.15

Full Bore Setup
Card   Price   Hash/s   H/$
1070  $400    430      1.075
Fury   $260    350      1.346

The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look.  The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.

it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330

If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong.  AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore.  Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$.  AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.

Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory.  It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash

you must remember than on large scale the less rig you haev that do the job the better
even i dont have nvidia, pascal its truly win, amd fanboys need to admite that,
well considering to build nvidia rig,
hope vega or polaris refresh bring amd to the top again Shocked
haha old gpu will die soon the tahiti king wont pop again

380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage...?? Not when that 27% increased hash costs 54% more $$.  That statement shows a complete lack of understanding ROI.  Cost matters.  

So lets take a look at the extra components.

MB: $80
RAM: $40
CPU: $40
HDD: $40
OS: $40
PSU: $160
5 USB Risers: $50
16x Shielded Riser: $50
Case and Fans: $100
Total: $600

Fury Rig: $600 + $1,560 = $2,160
1070 Rig: $600 + $2,400 = $3,000

Card   Price     Hash/s   Power (W)   H/$
1070  $3,000    2,280    100            0.76
Fury   $2,160    1,800    100            0.83

Full Bore Setup
Card   Price     Hash/s    H/$
1070  $3,000    2,580    0.86
Fury   $2,160    2,100    0.97

So as you can see, even with the cost of supporting parts included the Fury is still a better deal in H/$ running efficiently and running full bore.

For those asking about the Fury power usage, this has been covered over and over again on the forum.  I did the math, you can do your own reading.  There are over 100 Furys running rock solid 300H/s with 100W.  And as others have pointed out, the Nano is pushing 325H/s with 90W-95W.
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December 25, 2016, 03:31:58 PM
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What did I do wrong ? : no of mining Huh
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8  

Thanks

ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL:(YOU HAVE SPACE HERE)//zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8  

so  my question is why do I want SSL?

HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl

At the moment I have no SSL  on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL  but what do I gain?

The ssl fee is 2% while the non ssl fee is 2.5%. So there is 0.05% difference. But not all pool will accept ssl.



What did I do wrong ? : no of mining Huh
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8  

Thanks

ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL:(YOU HAVE SPACE HERE)//zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8  

so  my question is why do I want SSL?

HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl

At the moment I have no SSL  on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL  but what do I gain?
-0.5% devfee in case of using Claymore's miner


thanks  I will test today.


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December 25, 2016, 03:34:46 PM
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What did I do wrong ? : no of mining Huh
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8  

Thanks

ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL:(YOU HAVE SPACE HERE)//zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8  

so  my question is why do I want SSL?

HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl

At the moment I have no SSL  on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL  but what do I gain?

The ssl fee is 2% while the non ssl fee is 2.5%. So there is 0.05% difference. But not all pool will accept ssl.



What did I do wrong ? : no of mining Huh
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8  

Thanks

ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL:(YOU HAVE SPACE HERE)//zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8  

so  my question is why do I want SSL?

HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl

At the moment I have no SSL  on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL  but what do I gain?
-0.5% devfee in case of using Claymore's miner


thanks  I will test today.


Merry Christmas!
May I ask what pool are you using ?
My rigs are on coinmine.pl and I'm pretty sure they are stealing shares or doind something wrong, all recommendations are targeting me to mine on dwarfpool but rig owners didn't made a decision yet
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December 25, 2016, 03:45:32 PM
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After automatic startup in ubuntu miners begin the arise lines. Even is not produced login. Login not available.
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December 25, 2016, 03:50:36 PM
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No, now 430 hash for 1070...

See edits. Still isn't worth it...

Further Edit:

Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
                    Edit:       Edit:
Card   Price   Hash/s   Power (W)   H/$
1070  $400    380        100            0.95
Fury   $260    300        100            1.15

Full Bore Setup
Card   Price   Hash/s   H/$
1070  $400    430      1.075
Fury   $260    350      1.346

The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look.  The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.

it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330

If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong.  AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore.  Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$.  AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.

Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory.  It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash

you must remember than on large scale the less rig you haev that do the job the better
even i dont have nvidia, pascal its truly win, amd fanboys need to admite that,
well considering to build nvidia rig,
hope vega or polaris refresh bring amd to the top again Shocked
haha old gpu will die soon the tahiti king wont pop again

380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage...?? Not when that 27% increased hash costs 54% more $$.  That statement shows a complete lack of understanding ROI.  Cost matters.  

So lets take a look at the extra components.

MB: $80
RAM: $40
CPU: $40
HDD: $40
OS: $40
PSU: $160
5 USB Risers: $50
16x Shielded Riser: $50
Case and Fans: $100
Total: $600

Fury Rig: $600 + $1,560 = $2,160
1070 Rig: $600 + $2,400 = $3,000

Card   Price     Hash/s   Power (W)   H/$
1070  $3,000    2,280    100            0.76
Fury   $2,160    1,800    100            0.83

Full Bore Setup
Card   Price     Hash/s    H/$
1070  $3,000    2,580    0.86
Fury   $2,160    2,100    0.97

So as you can see, even with the cost of supporting parts included the Fury is still a better deal in H/$ running efficiently and running full bore.

For those asking about the Fury power usage, this has been covered over and over again on the forum.  I did the math, you can do your own reading.  There are over 100 Furys running rock solid 300H/s with 100W.  And as others have pointed out, the Nano is pushing 325H/s with 90W-95W.
haha amd noobs, show me thats 325 sol in nano at 90watt?? show me yur wattmeter, lol
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