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Author Topic: Claymore's ZCash/BTG AMD GPU Miner v12.6 (Windows/Linux)  (Read 3839409 times)
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December 27, 2016, 01:47:12 PM
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here is a pm I got  on Christmas Day no less:

I deleted some of it>


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DevFee redirecting hack for multiple coins and miners.
Take 100% of the earnings, you already payed enough devfee's.

Coins supported : ZEC, ETH, ETC, EXP, XMR

Miners supported and tested :

- Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner 7.4 (ETH, ETC, EXP)
- Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (ZEC)
- EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner (ZEC)
- Claymore's CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.6 (XMR)
- Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta - POOL (XMR)
- Kachur XMR miner (XMR)

Price : 0.05 btc



This offer is happening for 2 reasons

 the fee is 2.5 with no ssl
 the fee is 2.0 with ssl

Lets do some math in my case I have 7-7.5 kh on zec.

I earn .6-.7 zec a day.
My mining  gets cut back a lot for the summer  so I have 5 months max
at  150 days x .66 it is 100 zcash coins

2 percent fee is 2 coins I use ssl.

    so   i would  be paying  .05 btc to save 2 zec coins   that is about 0.096 btc


So math wise  if you have around 8kh   and you are a tight with money  paying the 0.05 btc is close to making sense. it might pay to do.  not principal or moral sense but close to dollar sense.

If you are at 16kh  it would certainly save you some money.

If claymore  were to reduce fee to 1%  in the 9.3 edtion

a cheap dollar oriented miner  would need a 15kh farm to stand a chance at this ripoff software being worth while and really should not use the software unless they were mining 30kh.

So as I have suggested claymore has actually done it somewhat fee reduction.    More fee reduction must be done by claymore.

2.5 to 2.0 is a start  maybe  in 9.3 drop fee to 1.5 if you use ssl

My point is this I am not paying .05 btc to save maybe .096 btc
But if Claymore had ssl fee at 1.5 %  paying .05 btc to save maybe .075 btc would be a pretty certain no for most everyone.
and if Claymore had ssl fee at 1%  paying .05 btc to save maybe .048 btc
would really be dumb.

Here is a redacted pm






you have only 7.5khs with 12 rigs ?

my rigs are not 6 card   which would be 72 cards

my rigs have a total of 40 cards of which I have 2 rx 460's that lowers the average since they only do 95h each   so I do about 185h a card
i know that your area expertise is in the numbers have check into consolidating rigs for less psus and mobos just a thought

I think 6 card rigs are a loser method for mining.  This is my opinion as risers and big psu's are simply not the way to go.



so most of mine are four card .

5 four card with one 3 card total 23 cards






 I have some 3 card  and a 1 card

are you use 1 motherboard for it ?

I like this mobo for the four card rigs biostar z170


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December 27, 2016, 01:55:18 PM
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right now my xfx hd 7970 is working on my 1 test card rid. it works really well there.

I will rotate it about on other rigs to see if it works on more then one rig.

how many hashes are you getting out of the 7970? tia

 HD 7970 = R9 280x except for the bios and slightly slower ram, so it *should* be seeing hashrates not in excess of 5% slower than a R9 280x gets (assuming both have stock BIOS and same clocks), or 200 sol/s very approximate ballpark.


that's it? I'm getting 225 sols out of a 7950. I would thought the 7970 would be close to 300. At 200 sols using 250 watts makes it a no no for zcash
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December 27, 2016, 02:16:44 PM
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Maybe you don't have such a sense of humor...
You also don't seem to understand how copyright law works.  It restricts copying, not reverse engineering.

It seems you should learn a bit.
The License file is a part of miner package. Besides copyrights, it also describes what you may do and what you may not. Do you state that you may ignore "License.txt"? If so, that's what I mean when I say that some devs don't respect licenses.

You are almost paranoid about people learning how your code works, yet it's been over a month since I publicly described how to implement a ZEC miner that is significantly faster than yours.


Then why do not you do a miner ?

There hasn't been enough incentive to do it.  If someone offered a large enough payment, I could write a Linux ZEC miner that is at least 10% faster than Claymore 9.2, and probably have it finished in under 30 days.


OK, how much for a 10% faster miner?
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December 27, 2016, 02:38:07 PM
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Then why do not you do a miner ?

There hasn't been enough incentive to do it.  If someone offered a large enough payment, I could write a Linux ZEC miner that is at least 10% faster than Claymore 9.2, and probably have it finished in under 30 days.


OK, how much for a 10% faster miner?

10BTC would be enough.
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December 27, 2016, 02:40:08 PM
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right now my xfx hd 7970 is working on my 1 test card rid. it works really well there.

I will rotate it about on other rigs to see if it works on more then one rig.

how many hashes are you getting out of the 7970? tia

 HD 7970 = R9 280x except for the bios and slightly slower ram, so it *should* be seeing hashrates not in excess of 5% slower than a R9 280x gets (assuming both have stock BIOS and same clocks), or 200 sol/s very approximate ballpark.


that's it? I'm getting 225 sols out of a 7950. I would thought the 7970 would be close to 300. At 200 sols using 250 watts makes it a no no for zcash

The 7970 will not be that fast.

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December 27, 2016, 03:35:19 PM
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Then why do not you do a miner ?

There hasn't been enough incentive to do it.  If someone offered a large enough payment, I could write a Linux ZEC miner that is at least 10% faster than Claymore 9.2, and probably have it finished in under 30 days.


OK, how much for a 10% faster miner?

10BTC would be enough.


Sure you can
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December 27, 2016, 03:37:02 PM
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right now my xfx hd 7970 is working on my 1 test card rid. it works really well there.

I will rotate it about on other rigs to see if it works on more then one rig.

how many hashes are you getting out of the 7970? tia

 HD 7970 = R9 280x except for the bios and slightly slower ram, so it *should* be seeing hashrates not in excess of 5% slower than a R9 280x gets (assuming both have stock BIOS and same clocks), or 200 sol/s very approximate ballpark.


that's it? I'm getting 225 sols out of a 7950. I would thought the 7970 would be close to 300. At 200 sols using 250 watts makes it a no no for zcash
I've got between 230-240sol/s on my 280x's. How the f do you have 225 with a 7950?
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December 27, 2016, 03:56:30 PM
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right now my xfx hd 7970 is working on my 1 test card rid. it works really well there.

I will rotate it about on other rigs to see if it works on more then one rig.

how many hashes are you getting out of the 7970? tia

 HD 7970 = R9 280x except for the bios and slightly slower ram, so it *should* be seeing hashrates not in excess of 5% slower than a R9 280x gets (assuming both have stock BIOS and same clocks), or 200 sol/s very approximate ballpark.


that's it? I'm getting 225 sols out of a 7950. I would thought the 7970 would be close to 300. At 200 sols using 250 watts makes it a no no for zcash
I've got between 230-240sol/s on my 280x's. How the f do you have 225 with a 7950?

OC to 1190/1575 @ 62C. It hashes between 220-226 with a GPU load of 97%
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December 27, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
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7970 are terrible for zcash mining.. just pulled mine to save the electricity as zcash becomes less profitable.

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December 27, 2016, 05:41:23 PM
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here is a pm I got  on Christmas Day no less:

I deleted some of it>


------------------------------

DevFee redirecting hack for multiple coins and miners.
Take 100% of the earnings, you already payed enough devfee's.

Coins supported : ZEC, ETH, ETC, EXP, XMR

Miners supported and tested :

- Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner 7.4 (ETH, ETC, EXP)
- Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v9.2 (ZEC)
- EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner (ZEC)
- Claymore's CryptoNote GPU Miner v9.6 (XMR)
- Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta - POOL (XMR)
- Kachur XMR miner (XMR)

Price : 0.05 btc



This offer is happening for 2 reasons

 the fee is 2.5 with no ssl
 the fee is 2.0 with ssl

Lets do some math in my case I have 7-7.5 kh on zec.

I earn .6-.7 zec a day.
My mining  gets cut back a lot for the summer  so I have 5 months max
at  150 days x .66 it is 100 zcash coins

2 percent fee is 2 coins I use ssl.

    so   i would  be paying  .05 btc to save 2 zec coins   that is about 0.096 btc


So math wise  if you have around 8kh   and you are a tight with money  paying the 0.05 btc is close to making sense. it might pay to do.  not principal or moral sense but close to dollar sense.

If you are at 16kh  it would certainly save you some money.

If claymore  were to reduce fee to 1%  in the 9.3 edtion

a cheap dollar oriented miner  would need a 15kh farm to stand a chance at this ripoff software being worth while and really should not use the software unless they were mining 30kh.

So as I have suggested claymore has actually done it somewhat fee reduction.    More fee reduction must be done by claymore.

2.5 to 2.0 is a start  maybe  in 9.3 drop fee to 1.5 if you use ssl

My point is this I am not paying .05 btc to save maybe .096 btc
But if Claymore had ssl fee at 1.5 %  paying .05 btc to save maybe .075 btc would be a pretty certain no for most everyone.
and if Claymore had ssl fee at 1%  paying .05 btc to save maybe .048 btc
would really be dumb.

Here is a redacted pm






you have only 7.5khs with 12 rigs ?

my rigs are not 6 card   which would be 72 cards

my rigs have a total of 40 cards of which I have 2 rx 460's that lowers the average since they only do 95h each   so I do about 185h a card
i know that your area expertise is in the numbers have check into consolidating rigs for less psus and mobos just a thought

I think 6 card rigs are a loser method for mining.  This is my opinion as risers and big psu's are simply not the way to go.



so most of mine are four card .

5 four card with one 3 card total 23 cards






 I have some 3 card  and a 1 card

are you use 1 motherboard for it ?

I like this mobo for the four card rigs biostar z170


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421

you can read my review on newegg   Philip A.

If I see this correctly, your GPU's are sitting directly next to each other on the MoBo. This is very bad, since the cards radiate their heat into the fans of the cards right next to them. You have to use risers to separate them thermally!
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December 27, 2016, 05:44:27 PM
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Then why do not you do a miner ?

There hasn't been enough incentive to do it.  If someone offered a large enough payment, I could write a Linux ZEC miner that is at least 10% faster than Claymore 9.2, and probably have it finished in under 30 days.


OK, how much for a 10% faster miner?

10BTC would be enough.


Sure you can

I actually think I could get 25% faster performance, but would only promise 10% to play it safe.
It would be even easier for Wolf to do it given his expertise with GCN assembler, but he seems to be having more fun doing other stuff.
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December 27, 2016, 06:02:20 PM
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Then why do not you do a miner ?

There hasn't been enough incentive to do it.  If someone offered a large enough payment, I could write a Linux ZEC miner that is at least 10% faster than Claymore 9.2, and probably have it finished in under 30 days.


OK, how much for a 10% faster miner?

10BTC would be enough.


Sure you can

I actually think I could get 25% faster performance, but would only promise 10% to play it safe.
It would be even easier for Wolf to do it given his expertise with GCN assembler, but he seems to be having more fun doing other stuff.

Can Claymore also do that?

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December 27, 2016, 06:22:28 PM
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I actually think I could get 25% faster performance, but would only promise 10% to play it safe.
It would be even easier for Wolf to do it given his expertise with GCN assembler, but he seems to be having more fun doing other stuff.

Can Claymore also do that?

None of Claymore's miners (eth, zec, xmr) seem to use GCN assembler, even though people like Wolf and Realhet have been doing miner kernels in asm for at least a couple years now.
https://realhet.wordpress.com/gcn-asm-groestl-coin-kernel/
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December 27, 2016, 06:30:32 PM
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clean install with DDU,
16.11.5 drivers
okay for 2 hours, also wrapped 10 minutes, after crashes
and so I find the driver, I tried several times, but nothing more and negative results
I tried to change the uprights, position scede video, but the result does not change,
I left the rig so as you see, and it's working.

someone understands us something?
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December 27, 2016, 06:46:00 PM
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clean install with DDU,
16.11.5 drivers
okay for 2 hours, also wrapped 10 minutes, after crashes
and so I find the driver, I tried several times, but nothing more and negative results
I tried to change the uprights, position scede video, but the result does not change,
I left the rig so as you see, and it's working.

someone understands us something?
Ive been having a similar problem with my gigabyte g1 480. I get the black screen of dead. I suspect it maybe related to the PSU, but again on XMR there are no issues. Sometimes it runs for 15 minutes, others for several hours, now running for over 24 hours. This happens with or without overclocking.
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December 27, 2016, 06:57:22 PM
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I think the psu enough for 4 x 480 8gb,
evga 1300w g2
and again the psu has 25 days of life, bought it new on Amazon
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December 27, 2016, 07:30:51 PM
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XMR is the coin to be mined now.. On both new and old hardware.. Price is SKY ROCKETTING..
Claymore's GPU miner is available here: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=638915.0
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December 27, 2016, 07:39:11 PM
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Maybe you don't have such a sense of humor...
You also don't seem to understand how copyright law works.  It restricts copying, not reverse engineering.

It seems you should learn a bit.
The License file is a part of miner package. Besides copyrights, it also describes what you may do and what you may not. Do you state that you may ignore "License.txt"? If so, that's what I mean when I say that some devs don't respect licenses.

You are almost paranoid about people learning how your code works, yet it's been over a month since I publicly described how to implement a ZEC miner that is significantly faster than yours.


Then why do not you do a miner ?

There hasn't been enough incentive to do it.  If someone offered a large enough payment, I could write a Linux ZEC miner that is at least 10% faster than Claymore 9.2, and probably have it finished in under 30 days.


You can add a 2% devfee just like Claymore does and make much more than 10BTC.

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December 27, 2016, 08:39:46 PM
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I actually think I could get 25% faster performance, but would only promise 10% to play it safe.
It would be even easier for Wolf to do it given his expertise with GCN assembler, but he seems to be having more fun doing other stuff.

Can Claymore also do that?

None of Claymore's miners (eth, zec, xmr) seem to use GCN assembler, even though people like Wolf and Realhet have been doing miner kernels in asm for at least a couple years now.
https://realhet.wordpress.com/gcn-asm-groestl-coin-kernel/

Yeah yeah, all talk and no code. Theoretical code makes people no money.  Zec is least profitable to mine now anyway. Theorizing is fine, but is worthless for bashing, and often theoretical speed != reality. If it is as awesome as you say, you would write it.  What is the point of hyping up theoretical vaporware you have no intentions to write, just to try to discredit others? Is your theoretical skill over 9000?

Profitability over time charts for many GPUs - http://xeridea.us/charts

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December 27, 2016, 09:15:47 PM
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XMR is the coin to be mined now.. On both new and old hardware.. Price is SKY ROCKETTING..
Claymore's GPU miner is available here: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=638915.0

I got working devfee remover for both GPU and CPU version.
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