Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[canth]

20nm in 2014? Not only is that amazing, it's almost hard to believe. It would be beyond most current GPU OEM's specs.

GPUs are not selling for $5000/each
nor are they as simple as SHA-256 engines

It's already been proven that there's more than enough money our there to cover the NRE and much more on this project. Kind of exciting.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just taped out or are about to.

Bring the speculation on! It would be awesome if that were the case, but we really have no idea...

[sickpig]

now to make the day perfect, knc should announce a sort of fidelity program for the early adopters and just after that release the tuning suite

[Xian01]

Dear KNC people.

How soon can I throw my money at you for these products ?

[CYPER]

No details. Coming Soon^TM

[arlekyn13]

No details. Coming Soon^TM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s provided by an overheated Jupiter (running at full speed though under these high temps, otherwise all boards with die #0 issue) and 2 Saturns with all 4 boards with die #0 issue and forced to run under 0.98 because somehow 0.99 broke them and now I have one ASIC on each of them with all cores off on either 0.98.1 beta, 0.98.1 official or 0.99, but working just fine with 0.98 and dead die #0. My miners so far mined about $20500 at current exchange rate, so, yeah, ROI is out of question, just hoping to recover as much as possible from my investment and looking at KNC to see if they really care about their 1st batch customers as they proudly claimed once on their website!

[edgar]

now to make the day perfect, knc should announce a sort of fidelity program for the early adopters and just after that release the tuning suite

tuning suite first sil vous plait


if the 4 chip 650Gh nov jups need 1200w

what will a 20nm '6 chip' neptune need & potentially hash at?

exciting!! and scary!!

[Syke]

There has been no delay from what I've seen I've only ever known Marcus state production commences mid November and he's the guy in charge of production.

Can you explain what you mean by "no delay"?

Nov 10th:

http://web.archive.org/web/20131110003305/https://www.kncminer.com/categories/miners

New orders for our ASIC miners that are fully paid today are expected to ship from November 15th, regardless of model.

[monsieur]

No details. Coming Soon^TM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s provided by an overheated Jupiter (running at full speed though under these high temps, otherwise all boards with die #0 issue) and 2 Saturns with all 4 boards with die #0 issue and forced to run under 0.98 because somehow 0.99 broke them and now I have one ASIC on each of them with all cores off on either 0.98.1 beta, 0.98.1 official or 0.99, but working just fine with 0.98 and dead die #0. My miners so far mined about $20500 at current exchange rate, so, yeah, ROI is out of question, just hoping to recover as much as possible from my investment and looking at KNC to see if they really care about their 1st batch customers as they proudly claimed once on their website!

All October customers will be given discount. Or that's what I hope for.

[DPoS]

My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s

Learn to hedge.  That is an 'all-in' mentality that will always leave you chasing bets

Perhaps it would of been better to buy one Jupiter and keep the rest in BTC?  But then you probably would of sold that BTC a couple months ago when it doubled and then said more coulda shouldas

[DPoS]

All October customers will be given discount. Or that's what I hope for.

I'd just be happy they open up the orders to past customers first even without a discount.
You know if they opened it up to everyone they would sell out in 5 mins

[Bitcoinorama]

No details. Coming Soon^TM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

Bingo!

[sickpig]

No details. Coming Soon^TM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

Bingo!

sorry for lame question: but how soon is soon ? 

[Biffa]

My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s provided by an overheated Jupiter (running at full speed though under these high temps, otherwise all boards with die #0 issue) and 2 Saturns with all 4 boards with die #0 issue and forced to run under 0.98 because somehow 0.99 broke them and now I have one ASIC on each of them with all cores off on either 0.98.1 beta, 0.98.1 official or 0.99, but working just fine with 0.98 and dead die #0. My miners so far mined about $20500 at current exchange rate, so, yeah, ROI is out of question, just hoping to recover as much as possible from my investment and looking at KNC to see if they really care about their 1st batch customers as they proudly claimed once on their website!

Your big answer would be no I would imagine.

[Phoenix1969]

A Thing of Beauty...

[arlekyn13]

My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s

Learn to hedge.  That is an 'all-in' mentality that will always leave you chasing bets

Perhaps it would of been better to buy one Jupiter and keep the rest in BTC?  But then you probably would of sold that BTC a couple months ago when it doubled and then said more coulda shouldas

I'll be as honest as possible with my reply: I bought my miners first of all hoping to get a profit in BTC (I was terribly wrong, helped a bit by KNC production delays that were affecting the late customers much harder than the ones at the beginning of the queue) and secondly for the thrill of mining Kind of expensive caprice I'd say... I'm currently sitting on a nice amount of BTC that I started buying long ago, back when the exchange rate was abour $10/BTC. I still have NO intention to sell them as I strongly believe BTC is still going to get value.
If there are miners out there willing to take losses in BTC for the sake of $ gains, my offer still stands: send me 100 BTC now and I promise I'll send you back 60 BTC once the value of BTC doubles. No hassle, no electricity cost, no hardware failures!

[sickpig]

My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s

Learn to hedge.  That is an 'all-in' mentality that will always leave you chasing bets

Perhaps it would of been better to buy one Jupiter and keep the rest in BTC?  But then you probably would of sold that BTC a couple months ago when it doubled and then said more coulda shouldas

I'll be as honest as possible with my reply: I bought my miners first of all hoping to get a profit in BTC (I was terribly wrong, helped a bit by KNC production delays that were affecting the late customers much harder than the ones at the beginning of the queue) and secondly for the thrill of mining Kind of expensive caprice I'd say... I'm currently sitting on a nice amount of BTC that I started buying long ago, back when the exchange rate was abour $10/BTC. I still have NO intention to sell them as I strongly believe BTC is still going to get value.
If there are miners out there willing to take losses in BTC for the sake of $ gains, my offer still stands: send me 100 BTC now and I promise I'll send you back 60 BTC once the value of BTC doubles. No hassle, no electricity cost, no hardware failures!

ROTFL !

[soy]

No details. Coming Soon^TM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

anyone care to speculate on the other specs and prices? just for fun

I'll get us started, 2TH @ =< 0.5 watt per ghs

and selling for $3999. or less

Power at the wall is an issue for us not prepared to upgrade our incoming service.

[DPoS]

If there are miners out there willing to take losses in BTC for the sake of $ gains, my offer still stands: send me 100 BTC now and I promise I'll send you back 60 BTC once the value of BTC doubles. No hassle, no electricity cost, no hardware failures!

That service of yours is not that off the mark.   I mine for two reasons.   One, I used 0% interest credit to buy the miners since it wasn't feasible to buy BTC directly like that.  And second, mining keeps me from selling on short term profits.

I've been selling my coins pretty much as I mine them and use the money to buy on big dips and then jump out quick for some more gains.


My goals wasn't to get really rich, just double my investment. That is going along fine. And yes, your service would be fine for people like me with quick trigger fingers  

[CeeCee]

i am testing right now cgminer-tune with my jupiter that has got some problems at the beginning and is mining at 520GH with 3.8.1. i can report that the jupiter is hashing now at 480GH . and i am not sure but it takes some time till the working diff has changed usually i think it got changed faster. i am mining on eligius btw.

i will update you in 2-3h.

edit:
after one hour it is working at 511GH/s

just an update:

jupiter one: FW0.99 3.8.1@523GH/s AVG HW2,4% - FW0.99 3.8.2tune@513GH/s AVG HW1,4% (3h working)
jupiter two: FW0.99 3.8.1@564GH/s AVG HW2,0% - FW0.99 3.8.2tune@566GH/s AVG HW1,4% (10min working)

[soy]

No details. Coming Soon^TM

Wow!  20nm AND early 2014!

That MUST be the "incoming news" announcement from 'orama.

My big question would be: is KNC going to offer any kind of discounts for the late October delivery customers, the ones that suffered the big losses? I mean, I personally paid $131200 at current exchange rate for 1Th/s provided by an overheated Jupiter (running at full speed though under these high temps, otherwise all boards with die #0 issue) and 2 Saturns with all 4 boards with die #0 issue and forced to run under 0.98 because somehow 0.99 broke them and now I have one ASIC on each of them with all cores off on either 0.98.1 beta, 0.98.1 official or 0.99, but working just fine with 0.98 and dead die #0. My miners so far mined about $20500 at current exchange rate, so, yeah, ROI is out of question, just hoping to recover as much as possible from my investment and looking at KNC to see if they really care about their 1st batch customers as they proudly claimed once on their website!

I'm wondering the position in the miner of the modules with the die #0 issue.  Do the dies on the outboard fail more easily due to center air flow cooling the inside VRMs better than the outside VRMs so the outside VRMs heat the outer side of the ASIC more than the inner?

And since both front fans rotate in the same direction, could the outside of the miner have greater airflow at the VRM level than the other?  If so it would show failing dies, or dropped cores more on the side with the less cooled VRMs.