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Author Topic: BFL board project COINTAMINATION - EU facility - ORDERS OPENED for Chili  (Read 73156 times)
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September 08, 2013, 11:56:52 AM
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Hi Lucko
Hi JerimiahJohnson

Just had a quick look at your new website, Wink
looks neat and clear. Cool

I have even managed to open an account. Roll Eyes


My only gripe would be that the rest of the world will get these boards before the "Lucko group buy" Grin

oh well........., I suppose we should have been faster to place our orders............... Sad

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September 08, 2013, 12:13:06 PM
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Forgive me but what website and group buyers should have priority.
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September 08, 2013, 12:36:52 PM
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Forgive me but what website and group buyers should have priority.
They have so don't worry. If I have to mount chips for a person who is not part of a GB and GB buyer or someone who helped guess who will be first...
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September 08, 2013, 01:02:48 PM
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Hi

Does anyone know what date the first BFL chip deliveries are expected?  I read some place they offered 100,000 chips, but how many have they actually sold?

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September 08, 2013, 01:24:19 PM
Last edit: September 08, 2013, 02:30:56 PM by JerimiahJohnson
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Hi Lucko
Hi JerimiahJohnson

Just had a quick look at your new website, Wink
looks neat and clear. Cool

I have even managed to open an account. Roll Eyes


My only gripe would be that the rest of the world will get these boards before the "Lucko group buy" Grin

oh well........., I suppose we should have been faster to place our orders............... Sad

Hey Relax my friends

Don't worry I am not even accepting orders yet, on the website - just getting it setup and testing some things out,  we are not taking orders untill we have PCB's in hand and our first production board completed and is fully tested. In fact I have not even announced the web site or advertised it anywhere you must of found it by accident.

In fact the logo is sort of just a joke... lol - I was just testing out the site and getting it ready...

Orders are now disabled on the website since someone found it on accident while I was working on it, however no orders have been made / and or paid. When we are able to start accepting orders, I will make an announcement on the site.


As far the whole group buy discount thing I will have to talk to lucko and arrange something with that.


Just to make it clear for everyone:

We are not taking orders just testing website and here is the most accurate timeline I can provide:

<1> Sept 9th I will have PCBs, and production cooling system parts in hand (according to tracking info)
<2> Sept 9th/10th I will fedex express mail some PCBs/parts to form
<3> Sept 12th/13th Form will hand assemble the first production board
<4> If the board works like we expect it to we will -->
<5> Start accepting orders<13th-15th> will have discount/group buy thing worked out by this point

Assembly
Around Sept 15th
<1>The Assembly facility has all the necessary files and information to begin assembling the full boards once we know they will work
<2>We will begin assembling boards to completion with the exception of the chips
<3>Since most BFL chips will not be coming for weeks for most people, we are going to do one big batch of the completed boards on a 10 day assembly lead time, so they will be ready for mounting when the chips come in.

If you are getting your chips earlier and want to pay extra for faster assembly times please email [email protected] and I can give you price quotes on 48 hour and 5 day assembly times.

<4>Look for boards to ship around the 25th, unless you get your chips earlier and we work something else out.

Hope I was able to answer all your questions.

This website is a work in progress. As far as the whole group buy thing and discounts I will talk to Lucko and get this worked out before we go live with orders.


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September 08, 2013, 02:08:10 PM
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How far have you progressed along the pi option?

In a very early stage only in my head because I'd allready send all my samples to chris99 for tests.
I've started to ask bfl for more chip samples (20) but maybe I get only 10.
8 of them I can send to lucko so 2 of my samples can be used to test my own design idea.
The base idea comes from the circuit which shows that the chip has F12 E12 D12 and C12 an
simple SPI interface. On PI it is possible to use GPIO for SPI interface so my hope is without
having an AVR it is possible direct use with only small extension connected to my pi.
The main problem is still the power supply of the chips. I've here an old modminer board with
an Delta Electronics D12F200 DC DC controller which should supports 2 chips for my tests

If my idea will becomes more concrete I will open own thread.
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September 08, 2013, 02:19:07 PM
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Short payment question: It is possible to pay in Bitcoin?

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September 08, 2013, 02:21:45 PM
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I believe payment will be bitcoin through bitpay.
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September 08, 2013, 02:36:02 PM
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How far have you progressed along the pi option?

In a very early stage only in my head because I'd allready send all my samples to chris99 for tests.
I've started to ask bfl for more chip samples (20) but maybe I get only 10.
8 of them I can send to lucko so 2 of my samples can be used to test my own design idea.
The base idea comes from the circuit which shows that the chip has F12 E12 D12 and C12 an
simple SPI interface. On PI it is possible to use GPIO for SPI interface so my hope is without
having an AVR it is possible direct use with only small extension connected to my pi.
The main problem is still the power supply of the chips. I've here an old modminer board with
an Delta Electronics D12F200 DC DC controller which should supports 2 chips for my tests

If my idea will becomes more concrete I will open own thread.


If you can send 5 sample chips to Form (not lucko)

thats what we really need, so we can test a full 16 Chip board.

If anyone can contribute 5 Sample chips, sent directly to Form in Germany via Federal Express overnight, I will give you a free board with free mounting (you just need to supply the chips)

If anyone can do this especially if you are in the EU or Germany please let me know

Coming soon the Cointamination 16 65nm Chip BFL CLone Board.
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September 08, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
Last edit: September 08, 2013, 04:42:25 PM by Lucko
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Relax JJ. I would give him a form address. I'm in contact with him... The problem is that he doesn't have them in hands at the moment.
Short payment question: It is possible to pay in Bitcoin?

Cheers...

Yes it will be Bitcoin over BitPay(probably) and I think I might offer SEPA and PayPal for my part to... Need to see if this can be integrated into page...
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September 08, 2013, 04:41:57 PM
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Just to clarify for North American orders we will be accepting Bitcoin Only. Lucko will handle orders from European countries and such and he will accept other payment methods.
-jj

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September 08, 2013, 05:10:03 PM
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How far have you progressed along the pi option?

In a very early stage only in my head because I'd allready send all my samples to chris99 for tests.
I've started to ask bfl for more chip samples (20) but maybe I get only 10.
8 of them I can send to lucko so 2 of my samples can be used to test my own design idea.
The base idea comes from the circuit which shows that the chip has F12 E12 D12 and C12 an
simple SPI interface. On PI it is possible to use GPIO for SPI interface so my hope is without
having an AVR it is possible direct use with only small extension connected to my pi.
The main problem is still the power supply of the chips. I've here an old modminer board with
an Delta Electronics D12F200 DC DC controller which should supports 2 chips for my tests

If my idea will becomes more concrete I will open own thread.


So an 8Gh/s Pi?
I will look out for your future thread.
It could be an interesting Pi project in its own setting.

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September 09, 2013, 12:18:30 AM
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Forgive me but what website and group buyers should have priority.
They have so don't worry. If I have to mount chips for a person who is not part of a GB and GB buyer or someone who helped guess who will be first...
Yeah I figured as such I was really responding to post before mine.
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September 09, 2013, 03:34:05 AM
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I got some BFL chips order from group buy so if I wanna buy board from here and put them together by myself what kind of soldering machine I need? Prefer something easy to use that I can buy from Ebay.
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September 09, 2013, 08:47:32 AM
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I got some BFL chips order from group buy so if I wanna buy board from here and put them together by myself what kind of soldering machine I need? Prefer something easy to use that I can buy from Ebay.

Please do yourself a favor.  Don't do it. 
You'll screw up at least half of them since you have no experience doing it.




About 2 weeks before they are planned for delivery, give Lucko  (or for North America, JJ) a PM, they may put you in the board and assembly program.
Look out for the new website (coming soon) and it will give you an idea of the cost.
They will do a good job for you, and then you will have a working miner returned to you soon after.

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September 09, 2013, 09:33:53 AM
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We will sell DIY Kits,  but personally unless you have the equipment and the experience I would recommend chips mounted by machine it would make much more sense to spend extra $100 or so to have your chips professionally mounted onto the board by a robot (pick and place machine) because its very very easy to screw something like this up and you need some very high end equipment to do so, not something you can find at radio shack, if you know what I mean.

-jj

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September 09, 2013, 09:51:32 AM
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It is true, that mounting will be made by Germany company?

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September 09, 2013, 10:14:05 AM
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It is true, that mounting will be made by Germany company?

Cheers...

Hello

We we will split thing up,

I am handling all sales, assembly, chip mounting and everything for North America.

So if you live in North America your chips will be mounted at my RoHS compliant west coast assembly facility.

if you live else where  in the world your chips may be mounted with me or someplace else. Not sure on that yet - Lucko still has to do the details

But basically how this works is I am reselling for North American customers and Lucko is reselling for Europe and other countries/continents
Our boards are Manufactured in the USA, Lucko may have other plans for the boards he has for his customers but I am not 100% sure on that yet.

So if your a customer outside North America and for questions about where his boards will be assembled you would have to ask him (Lucko)

Coming soon the Cointamination 16 65nm Chip BFL CLone Board.
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September 09, 2013, 03:26:02 PM
Last edit: September 09, 2013, 08:41:24 PM by Lucko
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I got some BFL chips order from group buy so if I wanna buy board from here and put them together by myself what kind of soldering machine I need? Prefer something easy to use that I can buy from Ebay.

Please do yourself a favor.  Don't do it.  
You'll screw up at least half of them since you have no experience doing it.
Agree if you need to ask for what to buy on eBay don't do it...
It is true, that mounting will be made by Germany company?

Cheers...

Well Form(board designer) is from Germany but I will do the assembly. And it will be done in Slovenia. Also by robot(pick and place machine).
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September 10, 2013, 10:36:18 PM
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Hello,

I am happy to report that our first batch of Cointamination Production PCB's have arrived! Smiley







I will be fedex'ing to form some boards and cooling parts tomorrow to form as well as some sample chips.

btw: we could still use some sample chip donations if anyone has them.

However either way we should know very soon if this production board will work the way we expect it to and will take orders soon after that.

thank you to everyone who has helped to support this project.

-JJ






Coming soon the Cointamination 16 65nm Chip BFL CLone Board.
Board Hashing: http://bit.ly/1cXs5Rt
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