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How's it going? Do you have our mailing addresses, Lucko? I can't even remember if we did that anymore.
Yes I have... It is hard to say since I don't know why only in first 20 boards I detected problems... But MrTeal did find a way to make even problematic boards to hash so it might be best to make all boards and see if any needs fix. Next week MrTeal will build phase 2 outside the board to see if that solves the problem... Soon you will also hear from thus who risk and got boards. Generally you can't use CGminer since it crashes if board crash but BFGminer recovers and when board finish restarting it start using it again... So it is posible to run more boards from single computer. With CG you are limited since if one crashes you need to start it up again and if one crashes you need to restart it again and so on... It is hard to be lucky enough... So if anyone else would like me to make his boards let me know... Boards have not yet arrived (tracking says out for delivery) Another quick fix is to have multiple copies of BFGminer running. If a board crashes, just delete it from the miner, then start a new session of BFG and re-capture the board. Mind you, 20 sessions of BFG running on one PC will use up a lot of internet bandwidth and processor. |
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January 03, 2014, 10:07:43 PM |
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Boards have not yet arrived (tracking says out for delivery)
O I see... I was hoping this will not be a case... But they do report in news about it so it is big... Delay - Weather Conditions. Delivery At 1st Opportunity Mind you, 20 sessions of BFG running on one PC will use up a lot of internet bandwidth and processor.
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January 03, 2014, 10:17:33 PM |
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Boards have not yet arrived (tracking says out for delivery)
O I see... I was hoping this will not be a case... But they do report in news about it so it is big... Delay - Weather Conditions. Delivery At 1st Opportunity Mind you, 20 sessions of BFG running on one PC will use up a lot of internet bandwidth and processor.
Just use single one... It works... Weather is a problem, our road into the village was under 600mm of seawater for about 3 hours around mid day.(the back road is not well known) https://www.dropbox.com/s/lca8q8sl8npbrsh/2013-12-05%2012.44.30.jpg This was 2 weeks ago and only 300mm deep The multi BFG is only used as a fix for errant boards, It saves disconnecting the ones that run well. |
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January 03, 2014, 10:48:18 PM |
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Hello Lucko,
my 10 boards arrived this day. Thank you.
Don't forget to send me the bitcoin address and how much I should pay.
I'm active in freenodes #bitcoin-de channel for questions.
I've send you my nickname via mail. Send me the wallet address where
I should send the bitcoins by email.
Cheers...
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January 03, 2014, 11:48:00 PM
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Hello Lucko,
my 10 boards arrived this day. Thank you.
Don't forget to send me the bitcoin address and how much I should pay.
I'm active in freenodes #bitcoin-de channel for questions.
I've send you my nickname via mail. Send me the wallet address where
I should send the bitcoins by email.
Cheers...
Also received today mines, thanks Lucko, At this moment i try to put first one at work but resets at 27 GHs and 32 ºC. Bfgminner have restarted board many times but until now without results. Tomorrow i will install remaining boards and see what are the results. Regards |
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January 04, 2014, 01:01:19 AM |
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if anyone else would like me to make his boards let me know...
Go ahead and make mine please. Thanks. |
"All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S." - President F.D. Roosevelt, 1933
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January 04, 2014, 03:14:25 AM |
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if anyone else would like me to make his boards let me know...
Go ahead and make mine please. Thanks. Go ahead and make mine Lucko. |
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January 04, 2014, 03:45:24 AM |
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if anyone else would like me to make his boards let me know...
Go ahead and make mine please. Thanks. Go ahead and make mine Lucko. Go ahead and make mine as well. I'm curious if you ever tried the modified firmware that limits the voltage to 1.1v, if so what were your results? |
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January 04, 2014, 08:30:34 AM |
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Go ahead and make mine as well. I'm curious if you ever tried the modified firmware that limits the voltage to 1.1v, if so what were your results?
It was not on dropbox at that time so no... Link didn't work... Also received today mines, thanks Lucko,
At this moment i try to put first one at work but resets at 27 GHs and 32 ºC. Bfgminner have restarted board many times but until now without results. Tomorrow i will install remaining boards and see what are results.
Regards
I was sure I didn't send any of thus out but it looks like I did a mistake because I'm missing one... I will send you another can you send this one back... I probably made a mistake when randomizing boards for sending... |
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January 04, 2014, 09:32:31 AM |
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Lucko,
out of my own curiosity. Have you seen a difference in board performance and behavior between the 1st gen chips and the 2nd gen (shinny) chips I sent you?
And no, I don't want my boards yet please get to the source of the problem first!
Mr Teal, if you read this I hope you can finally find the source of the (design/software/component) problem.
Thx
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January 04, 2014, 09:45:56 AM |
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Lucko,
out of my own curiosity. Have you seen a difference in board performance and behavior between the 1st gen chips and the 2nd gen (shinny) chips I sent you?
And no, I don't want my boards yet please get to the source of the problem first!
Mr Teal, if you read this I hope you can finally find the source of the (design/software/component) problem.
Thx
one4many
They don't have a problem with engine 0 they need more power and act differently at low voltage... So theoretical max without overclocking is 4,5 not 4,2... |
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January 04, 2014, 10:06:10 AM
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Also received today mines, thanks Lucko,
At this moment i try to put first one at work but resets at 27 GHs and 32 ºC. Bfgminner have restarted board many times but until now without results. Tomorrow i will install remaining boards and see what are results.
Ok, I have the same issue here now with the first 3 boards. The others are not completed, yet because of missing coolers, which should arrives over the day. The messages looks like the same as is described on Mr. Teals forum a a result of high performers. With 119, 121 they are not really high performers, the third with 126 looks like more that. [2014-01-04 09:52:11] Devices detected:
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] BitFORCE SHA256 SC by MrTeal and ChipGeek (driver=bitforce_queue; procs=1; serial=FTX30WIZ; path=/dev/ttyUSB0)
1 devices listed
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[2014-01-04 09:52:11] Acquired exclusive advisory lock on /dev/ttyUSB0
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] BFL: Attempting to open /dev/ttyUSB0
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] Found BitForce device on /dev/ttyUSB0
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] DEVICE: Chili SC
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] MANUFACTURER: MrTeal and ChipGeek
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] FIRMWARE: 1.2.14e
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] CHIP PARALLELIZATION: NO
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] QUEUE DEPTH:40
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 0: 16 engines @ 181 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 1: 16 engines @ 181 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 2: 16 engines @ 180 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 3: 16 engines @ 178 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 4: 16 engines @ 200 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 5: 16 engines @ 189 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 6: 16 engines @ 186 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 7: 14 engines @ 182 MHz -- MAP: DFF7
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] THEORETICAL MAX: 23.28 GH/s
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] ENGINES: 126
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] FREQUENCY: 184 MHz
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] CRITICAL TEMPERATURE: 0
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] TOTAL THERMAL CYCLES: 0
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] XLINK MODE: MASTER
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] XLINK PRESENT: NO
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] Devices detected:
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] BitFORCE SHA256 SC by MrTeal and ChipGeek (driver=bitforce_queue; procs=1; serial=FTX30WIZ; path=/dev/ttyUSB0) The miners have near by the same problem. They start and bfgminer test shows more or less: bfgminer version 3.9.0 - Started: [2014-01-04 09:53:08] - [ 0 days 00:02:14]
[M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [H]elp [Q]uit
Connected to removed.btcguild.com diff 8 with stratum as user removed
Block: ...6cb9f38a #278547 Diff:1.42G (10.15Ph/s) Started: [09:53:08]
ST:7 F:0 NB:1 AS:1 BW:[163/192 B/s] E:36.16 I: 399uBTC/hr BS:2.92k
1 62.0C | 30.36/33.02/30.15Gh/s | A:163 R:2+1(.97%) HW:148/ 13%
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BFL 0 : 62.0C | 40.75/32.03/29.25Gh/s | A:163 R:2+1(.97%) HW:156/ 13%
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BFL 0 : 65.0C | 40.75/34.93/31.72Gh/s | A:161 R:2+1(.99%) HW:134/ 13%
BitFORCE SHA256 SC from MrTeal and ChipGeek
Serial: FTX30WIZ
Kernel: bulk queue
Temperatures: 43.0C 65.0C
Voltages: 3.290 / 1.157 / 11.781
[D]isable [I]dentify [F]an control
[Slash] Find processor [Plus] Add device(s) [Enter] Close device manager
[2014-01-04 09:55:12] BFL 0: Received unexpected queue result response:
[2014-01-04 09:55:13] BFL 0: Received unexpected queue result response:
[2014-01-04 09:55:14] BFL 0: Received unexpected queue result response:
[2014-01-04 09:55:14] BFL 0: Error: Get temp returned empty string/timed out
[2014-01-04 09:55:14] BFL 0: Received unexpected queue result response:
Here the LED 2 an 4 are on, 7 is blinking ~4Hz. After a while 7and 8 are blinking where 7 but now 2Hz by both going on same time but first 7 goes off (1:1) then 8 (1:2-3).: 7 011001100110011001100... 8 011101110111011101110... After a while more left 6 are blinking randomly for a second and then all are going off. Now it looks like the board has to been reset. Then I can restart bfgminer. It looks like really the problems comes from the power rails. I didn't cool the FETS active by a fan any more at the moment so the fet temp rises 45 °C which limits the vcore <1.1 V. So flashing to 1.1V limit could be solve the problem. Block: ...6cb9f38a #278547 Diff:1.42G (10.15Ph/s) Started: [10:02:38]
ST:7 F:0 NB:1 AS:0 BW:[101/ 81 B/s] E:95.64 I: 541uBTC/hr BS:4.75k
1 59.0C | 36.78/36.78/34.57Gh/s | A:266 R:5+1(.68%) HW:389/8.0%
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BFL 0 : 59.0C | 37.13/36.78/34.57Gh/s | A:266 R:5+1(.68%) HW:389/8.0%
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BFL 0 : 59.0C | 37.12/36.78/34.35Gh/s | A:260 R:5+1(.74%) HW:368/7.9%
BitFORCE SHA256 SC from MrTeal and ChipGeek
Serial: FTX30WIZ
Kernel: bulk queue
Temperatures: 45.0C 59.0C
Voltages: 3.290 / 1.097 / 11.906
At the moment so I guess do not blow the power fets. This will limit also the voltage and is a work around. Also the other one could I fix by removing the fan to blow the fets, too :-/ Cheers... |
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January 04, 2014, 03:21:53 PM |
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Go ahead and make mine as well. I'm curious if you ever tried the modified firmware that limits the voltage to 1.1v, if so what were your results?
It was not on dropbox at that time so no... Link didn't work... The link for the modified firmware is up now. He has a link to it on the first page of his thread with the other firmware links. https://www.dropbox.com/s/rfa4kuigov99sg8/Chili14e1v1.hexworks again it was down |
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January 04, 2014, 03:46:51 PM |
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Also received today mines, thanks Lucko,
At this moment i try to put first one at work but resets at 27 GHs and 32 ºC. Bfgminner have restarted board many times but until now without results. Tomorrow i will install remaining boards and see what are results.
Regards
I was sure I didn't send any of thus out but it looks like I did a mistake because I'm missing one... I will send you another can you send this one back... I probably made a mistake when randomizing boards for sending... Thanks by prompt support, I sent PM about. |
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January 04, 2014, 03:52:36 PM |
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if anyone else would like me to make his boards let me know...
Go ahead and make mine please. Thanks. Go ahead and make mine Lucko. Go ahead and make mine as well. I'm curious if you ever tried the modified firmware that limits the voltage to 1.1v, if so what were your results? One of my received board acheived 39.2 during 1 minute then stop responding: I flashed 1.1V firmware and now got 36GHs stable board Regards |
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January 04, 2014, 04:39:32 PM
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Also received today mines, thanks Lucko,
At this moment i try to put first one at work but resets at 27 GHs and 32 ºC. Bfgminner have restarted board many times but until now without results. Tomorrow i will install remaining boards and see what are results.
Ok, I have the same issue here now with the first 3 boards. The others are not completed, yet because of missing coolers, which should arrives over the day. The messages looks like the same as is described on Mr. Teals forum a a result of high performers. With 119, 121 they are not really high performers, the third with 126 looks like more that. [2014-01-04 09:52:11] Devices detected:
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] BitFORCE SHA256 SC by MrTeal and ChipGeek (driver=bitforce_queue; procs=1; serial=FTX30WIZ; path=/dev/ttyUSB0)
1 devices listed
l))
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] Acquired exclusive advisory lock on /dev/ttyUSB0
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] BFL: Attempting to open /dev/ttyUSB0
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] Found BitForce device on /dev/ttyUSB0
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] DEVICE: Chili SC
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] MANUFACTURER: MrTeal and ChipGeek
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] FIRMWARE: 1.2.14e
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] CHIP PARALLELIZATION: NO
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] QUEUE DEPTH:40
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 0: 16 engines @ 181 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 1: 16 engines @ 181 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 2: 16 engines @ 180 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 3: 16 engines @ 178 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 4: 16 engines @ 200 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 5: 16 engines @ 189 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 6: 16 engines @ 186 MHz -- MAP: FFFF
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] PROCESSOR 7: 14 engines @ 182 MHz -- MAP: DFF7
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] THEORETICAL MAX: 23.28 GH/s
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] ENGINES: 126
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] FREQUENCY: 184 MHz
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] CRITICAL TEMPERATURE: 0
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] TOTAL THERMAL CYCLES: 0
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] XLINK MODE: MASTER
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] XLINK PRESENT: NO
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] Devices detected:
[2014-01-04 09:52:11] BitFORCE SHA256 SC by MrTeal and ChipGeek (driver=bitforce_queue; procs=1; serial=FTX30WIZ; path=/dev/ttyUSB0) The miners have near by the same problem. They start and bfgminer test shows more or less: bfgminer version 3.9.0 - Started: [2014-01-04 09:53:08] - [ 0 days 00:02:14]
[M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [H]elp [Q]uit
Connected to removed.btcguild.com diff 8 with stratum as user removed
Block: ...6cb9f38a #278547 Diff:1.42G (10.15Ph/s) Started: [09:53:08]
ST:7 F:0 NB:1 AS:1 BW:[163/192 B/s] E:36.16 I: 399uBTC/hr BS:2.92k
1 62.0C | 30.36/33.02/30.15Gh/s | A:163 R:2+1(.97%) HW:148/ 13%
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BFL 0 : 62.0C | 40.75/32.03/29.25Gh/s | A:163 R:2+1(.97%) HW:156/ 13%
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Select processor to manage using up/down arrow keys
BFL 0 : 65.0C | 40.75/34.93/31.72Gh/s | A:161 R:2+1(.99%) HW:134/ 13%
BitFORCE SHA256 SC from MrTeal and ChipGeek
Serial: FTX30WIZ
Kernel: bulk queue
Temperatures: 43.0C 65.0C
Voltages: 3.290 / 1.157 / 11.781
[D]isable [I]dentify [F]an control
[Slash] Find processor [Plus] Add device(s) [Enter] Close device manager
[2014-01-04 09:55:12] BFL 0: Received unexpected queue result response:
[2014-01-04 09:55:13] BFL 0: Received unexpected queue result response:
[2014-01-04 09:55:14] BFL 0: Received unexpected queue result response:
[2014-01-04 09:55:14] BFL 0: Error: Get temp returned empty string/timed out
[2014-01-04 09:55:14] BFL 0: Received unexpected queue result response:
Here the LED 2 an 4 are on, 7 is blinking ~4Hz. After a while 7and 8 are blinking where 7 but now 2Hz by both going on same time but first 7 goes off (1:1) then 8 (1:2-3).: 7 011001100110011001100... 8 011101110111011101110... After a while more left 6 are blinking randomly for a second and then all are going off. Now it looks like the board has to been reset. Then I can restart bfgminer. It looks like really the problems comes from the power rails. I didn't cool the FETS active by a fan any more at the moment so the fet temp rises 45 °C which limits the vcore <1.1 V. So flashing to 1.1V limit could be solve the problem. Block: ...6cb9f38a #278547 Diff:1.42G (10.15Ph/s) Started: [10:02:38]
ST:7 F:0 NB:1 AS:0 BW:[101/ 81 B/s] E:95.64 I: 541uBTC/hr BS:4.75k
1 59.0C | 36.78/36.78/34.57Gh/s | A:266 R:5+1(.68%) HW:389/8.0%
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BFL 0 : 59.0C | 37.13/36.78/34.57Gh/s | A:266 R:5+1(.68%) HW:389/8.0%
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Select processor to manage using up/down arrow keys
BFL 0 : 59.0C | 37.12/36.78/34.35Gh/s | A:260 R:5+1(.74%) HW:368/7.9%
BitFORCE SHA256 SC from MrTeal and ChipGeek
Serial: FTX30WIZ
Kernel: bulk queue
Temperatures: 45.0C 59.0C
Voltages: 3.290 / 1.097 / 11.906
At the moment so I guess do not blow the power fets. This will limit also the voltage and is a work around. Also the other one could I fix by removing the fan to blow the fets, too :-/ Cheers... You have too good chips. You need limiter firmware... I would put it on but it was not available at the time. You can upload that with https://www.dropbox.com/s/xpccbhfkbpinov8/ChiliFlash.exe https://www.dropbox.com/s/rfa4kuigov99sg8/Chili14e1v1.hexBlinking 7 light means that board is cooling off and waiting to start selftest. Blinking 7 and 8 means selftest... if anyone else would like me to make his boards let me know...
Go ahead and make mine please. Thanks. Go ahead and make mine Lucko. Go ahead and make mine as well. I'm curious if you ever tried the modified firmware that limits the voltage to 1.1v, if so what were your results? One of my received board acheived 39.2 during 1 minute then stop responding: I flashed 1.1V firmware and now got 36GHs stable board Regards Yes that is same thing... It can go over 20A per chips at this speed... And power supply is only 160A with cooling... |
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Does anybody knows how I can flash with linux without any windows installing? I use kvm but in real usb is not working from it. Cheers.. |
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Yes that is same thing... It can go over 20A per chips at this speed... And power supply is only 160A with cooling...
I guess your boards have better copper plates or so. All first 4 boards I've assembled now have the same issue. It is not relevant how many engines could be started. My board with 126 engines have the same problem as my board with only 109 engines. It looks like not only the problem comes from higher voltages > 1.1. One board with 109 engines allready resets at 1.0V. I can start it only by stopping the cpu fan so the blf will arrive the 70° limit earlier. I will check later. All these are now limit to the power fets. Maybe there can be replaced by ones with 60 A support? Cheers... |
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January 05, 2014, 03:43:32 PM
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Does anybody knows how I can flash with linux without any windows installing? I use kvm but in real usb is not working from it.
Cheers..
I just went through this myself. You need Virtual Box (VB) It has settings for usb support but you have to add your user to the vb group for the usb to work. Another member helped me a little bit. here.
No worries, you just go down to the bottom right of the Virtual Box in which XP is running and click on the USB icon. Then choose the one that corresponds to the Chili. I'm at work, so I don't remember which one that is, but you can lsusb on the linux side or just unplug and see where the difference is in that popup menu choice. You have to have set up the VirtualBox for XP to allow USB passthrough, but that's an easy configuration choice. Depending on your port, you might also have to have installed the extension pack to allow USB 3.0 if it's one of those.
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Yes that is same thing... It can go over 20A per chips at this speed... And power supply is only 160A with cooling...
I guess your boards have better copper plates or so. All first 4 boards I've assembled now have the same issue. It is not relevant how many engines could be started. My board with 126 engines have the same problem as my board with only 109 engines. It looks like not only the problem comes from higher voltages > 1.1. One board with 109 engines allready resets at 1.0V. I can start it only by stopping the cpu fan so the blf will arrive the 70° limit earlier. I will check later. All these are now limit to the power fets. Maybe there can be replaced by ones with 60 A support? Cheers... I tested every board with 2 restarts. But I did figure out that they act batter if they have there own unshare power supply... If it manage to get to speed(when speeds start drooping) I declare it without problems. Also if it crashed above 38GH. If it chresh but was able to get it going with restarts it was also send out. So that is why your 109 is restarting because of unknown problem that MrTeal and I are looking. You did opted to have them made anyway... Only if I could not make it run I didn't send it out(OK I did one by mistake)... And I'm not sure what you mean by 60A support... |
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