Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[ElGrandJefe]

That's one of the most appalling - if not THE most appalling - thing about the BA situation: I ordered in November, direct from BA. In return for my loyalty, I got to watch the resellers - who came on board 2-3 months later - get served with priority. And they even provided refunds (or, in your case, alternate hardware) to customers who requested them.

So fuck me, I guess. My fault for trusting a Chinese company. And this is not me being racist, it's me being pragmatic - because BA thinks they're immune to customer complaints due to their location and their convoluted "ownership" structure.

I got a mail today from the Hong Kong Consumer Council stating that BA has ignored their complaint on my behalf and they have sent them a more strongly worded letter, urging them to deal with it. I'll bet the BA cockmonkeys are quivering in their little pink booties.

My only hope now is that once the Hong Kong police are finished suppressing all the student democracy demonstrations, they'll have the time to take a closer look at BA's criminal activities.

[CryptoGuy]

That's one of the most appalling - if not THE most appalling - thing about the BA situation: I ordered in November, direct from BA. In return for my loyalty, I got to watch the resellers - who came on board 2-3 months later - get served with priority. And they even provided refunds (or, in your case, alternate hardware) to customers who requested them.

So fuck me, I guess. My fault for trusting a Chinese company. And this is not me being racist, it's me being pragmatic - because BA thinks they're immune to customer complaints due to their location and their convoluted "ownership" structure.

I got a mail today from the Hong Kong Consumer Council stating that BA has ignored their complaint on my behalf and they have sent them a more strongly worded letter, urging them to deal with it. I'll bet the BA cockmonkeys are quivering in their little pink booties.

My only hope now is that once the Hong Kong police are finished suppressing all the student democracy demonstrations, they'll have the time to take a closer look at BA's criminal activities.

Keep in mind I purchased the S3's myself, they were not given to me as compensation for my X1's by a reseller. I'm merely stating that I received hardware from a competitor, got ROI on them and now that hardware is mining back the coins I spent on the X1's. Those coins should be profit but thanks to BA, I'm still in the red for another 2.3BTC from those X1's.

[Dallas5]

That's one of the most appalling - if not THE most appalling - thing about the BA situation: I ordered in November, direct from BA. In return for my loyalty, I got to watch the resellers - who came on board 2-3 months later - get served with priority. And they even provided refunds (or, in your case, alternate hardware) to customers who requested them.

So fuck me, I guess. My fault for trusting a Chinese company. And this is not me being racist, it's me being pragmatic - because BA thinks they're immune to customer complaints due to their location and their convoluted "ownership" structure.

I got a mail today from the Hong Kong Consumer Council stating that BA has ignored their complaint on my behalf and they have sent them a more strongly worded letter, urging them to deal with it. I'll bet the BA cockmonkeys are quivering in their little pink booties.

My only hope now is that once the Hong Kong police are finished suppressing all the student democracy demonstrations, they'll have the time to take a closer look at BA's criminal activities.

Keep in mind I purchased the S3's myself, they were not given to me as compensation for my X1's by a reseller. I'm merely stating that I received hardware from a competitor, got ROI on them and now that hardware is mining back the coins I spent on the X1's. Those coins should be profit but thanks to BA, I'm still in the red for another 2.3BTC from those X1's.

Thanks for the clarification, I wish I ordered something from Bitmain instead. I ordered from Minersource a reseller of Blackarrow and received NO refund even though they told me twice they would send me back my money.

Did you order from Blackarrow and have you tried getting a refund?

[ElGrandJefe]

Same experience: refund requested in April, refund approved and confirmed in May, then months of silence, then a blanket "we have no money for refunds" - oddly enough at around the same time that they announced their new 14nm product line and the Scrypt ASIC chip.

They are lying, cheating, thieving bastards.

[hdbuck]

i've been wondering in the depth of bitcointalk's lately.. it is amazing the number of threads with unhappy scammed people. ^^

[raskul]

i've been wondering in the depth of bitcointalk's lately.. it is amazing the number of threads with unhappy scammed people. ^^

yet, there are more and more new members who seem intent on just trying to reap the rewards of dodgy bitcoin affiliate programs.
is this what we have become? click-bait?

[hdbuck]

i've been wondering in the depth of bitcointalk's lately.. it is amazing the number of threads with unhappy scammed people. ^^

yet, there are more and more new members who seem intent on just trying to reap the rewards of dodgy bitcoin affiliate programs.
is this what we have become? click-bait?

yea bitcoin is dead.

[raskul]

i've been wondering in the depth of bitcointalk's lately.. it is amazing the number of threads with unhappy scammed people. ^^

yet, there are more and more new members who seem intent on just trying to reap the rewards of dodgy bitcoin affiliate programs.
is this what we have become? click-bait?

yea bitcoin is dead.

haha, that's what they are telling me 

[ThePhwner]

I tuned into this thread again to see how the BA fire boxes were going... seems there is no shortage of smoke or fire and that these units are probably the worst miners ever made. Lucky that you were home and awake when the units caught fire, could have been a terrible story otherwise.

 

Please note that the materials used to build these miners are fire resistant. The worst they can do is melt, which is what is show in the pictures above.

This is a really ignorant thing to say. There's plenty of proof of units literally going up in flames.

[raskul]

I tuned into this thread again to see how the BA fire boxes were going... seems there is no shortage of smoke or fire and that these units are probably the worst miners ever made. Lucky that you were home and awake when the units caught fire, could have been a terrible story otherwise.

 

Please note that the materials used to build these miners are fire resistant. The worst they can do is melt, which is what is show in the pictures above.

This is a really ignorant thing to say. There's plenty of proof of units literally going up in flames.

he knows that but he has to do something to be entitled to stand side-by-side with Alex in the dock when sentence is passed.

[SunnyIgor]

WHEN X1.5 BLACKARROW?

 

[CryptoGuy]

WHEN X1.5 BLACKARROW?

 

"Next week"?

[Syke]

WHEN X1.5 BLACKARROW?

 

"Next week"?

Since the difficulty has levelled off, they're still profitable for BA to keep mining on them.

[david105396]

You're treading on dangerous ground here making statements like that David. Are you saying they're unable to start a fire because they're within a metal outercase? Because that would be a ridiculous statement.

No, not because they are in a aluminum case, which actually could also not melt and would keep in contained. But the materials used to produce the PCB's are fire resistant and can handle very high temperatures before melting. They are unable to burn.

[ElGrandJefe]

You're treading on dangerous ground here making statements like that David. Are you saying they're unable to start a fire because they're within a metal outercase? Because that would be a ridiculous statement.

No, not because they are in a aluminum case, which actually could also not melt and would keep in contained. But the materials used to produce the PCB's are fire resistant and can handle very high temperatures before melting. They are unable to burn.

Cut the bullshit already, David. Nobody's buying it.

[Specialkey]

You're treading on dangerous ground here making statements like that David. Are you saying they're unable to start a fire because they're within a metal outercase? Because that would be a ridiculous statement.

No, not because they are in a aluminum case, which actually could also not melt and would keep in contained. But the materials used to produce the PCB's are fire resistant and can handle very high temperatures before melting. They are unable to burn.

Send us our refunds back.

[EricKennedy]

What a train wreck...

[raskul]

You're treading on dangerous ground here making statements like that David. Are you saying they're unable to start a fire because they're within a metal outercase? Because that would be a ridiculous statement.

No, not because they are in a aluminum case, which actually could also not melt and would keep in contained. But the materials used to produce the PCB's are fire resistant and can handle very high temperatures before melting. They are unable to burn.

because aluminium is a very hardy metal 

/s

you do talk rot.

[OgNasty]

New announcement on the site

News
Date added: 04 Dec 2014 Prospero X3 issues fixed
We have successfully tested the new version of the hashboards and we are happy to report that none of them have encountered any issues. Testing was done on a Rent-A-Minion batch of 200 units that has been running for the last 3 weeks.
We have now completed the manufacturing of new hash boards and we are starting the replacement for all customers affected. We will send tomorrow an individual email. If you have not received an email, are one of our customers and believe that your unit is affected, please write an email to our customer support.
Please wait for our email and do not return your unit to China without an RMA. Doing so might result in substantial shipping and customs charges that you will need to cover.

Who are all of these direct "customers" that have units?  I ordered nearly 14 months ago and have not received anything from them.  Now they're replacing customer units that were ordered 6 months after me through a reseller?  WTF Black Arrow? 

I realize they pulled a blatant scam with the help of minersource, but figured for legal reasons they would have delivered something by now, as these are basically worthless to them.  I should have tried to sell my order to anyone who would take it after the below communication from bobsag3 six months after I ordered when he claimed if I transferred my order to minersource I would get it faster.  It's blatantly apparent that Black Arrow promised minersource units ahead of prior paying customers as far back as last May and the offer of a free PSU to garner trust knowing they turned out to be faulty makes me glad I at least didn't fall for that part of the scam.  In my opinion, this is proof that BA/Minersource had planned to screw BA direct orders before they even had a working product.  It shows a lack of morals at best, and that this was a blatant planned scam with multiple players from the beginning at worst.

I should also note that instead of transferring my order, I made an attempt to see if bobsag3 was trustworthy by agreeing to have him host a miner for me.  If you view his trust, you'll see that he then operated the miner for himself, keeping the BTC and I never saw the unit or any sort of payment from him.

Your order for the X3 was made thru BA direct correct?

Yes.

I can get you guys a PSU for your X3 free of charge, no need to buy one from BA. Also if you would prefer, I can get them to xfer the order to my shipping que, I can probably get it to you sooner than they would.

A free PSU would be great.  I'm not sure about transferring my order though.  I worry that could cause some confusion.

We already have a process in place, your order gets added to my bulk express air freight shipments, and we get a manifest ahead of time, and you get a order populated in our store to verify all the information. All your choice, anything I can do to help considering the situation.

For the PSU, if you can just order one thru:
http://minersource.net/collections/frontpage/products/black-arrow-prospero-x3-spare-psu-for-compensation-units-only
and Choose "Bank Transfer" I will manually mark it paid to get it in the order list for PSUs.

[ElGrandJefe]

Everyone is just still moaning about all this but BA and bobsag still have positive trust here. Shit, bob has hardly any red reviews at all. People who are having issues with MinerSource need to leave negative feedback or this cycle will continue to happen to others.

I negged BA back in September. They negged me back with one of their sockpuppet accounts.

 I've also reported them to the Hong Kong Consumer Council and the Hong Kong police department. Short of hiring a Russian hitman, that's about all I can do.

I ordered directly, so had no contact with bobsag3.