2019 Cricket World Cup - Discussion & Analysis

[Vishnu.Reang]

Very surprising to see Hamid Hassan in the Afghan squad. He hasn't played any form of cricket for the last one and half years!! He played his last ODI in 2016. I don't know why he was selected over players such as Shapoor Zadran and Karim Janat. One thing that could have worked out for him may be his earlier stint in English club cricket.

[Haunebu]

Very surprising to see Hamid Hassan in the Afghan squad. He hasn't played any form of cricket for the last one and half years!! He played his last ODI in 2016. I don't know why he was selected over players such as Shapoor Zadran and Karim Janat. One thing that could have worked out for him may be his earlier stint in English club cricket.

Probably internal politics. This is a common problem in all squads. For example, I never expected Vijay Shankar to be selected over someone like Rishabh Pant or Rayudu, but politics probably played a role here.

[Pffrt]

Very surprising to see Hamid Hassan in the Afghan squad. He hasn't played any form of cricket for the last one and half years!! He played his last ODI in 2016. I don't know why he was selected over players such as Shapoor Zadran and Karim Janat. One thing that could have worked out for him may be his earlier stint in English club cricket.

Probably internal politics. This is a common problem in all squads. For example, I never expected Vijay Shankar to be selected over someone like Rishabh Pant or Rayudu, but politics probably played a role here.

I don't think so in case  of Vijay Shankar. If you look back to my previous post from here, I had included Vijay Shankar in my playing XI for India. Am I someone from Indian Cricket Board's internal 
He has done way better than both Pant and Rayudu in last ODIs. I think Vijay Shankaar is good pick for the Indian team.

[Haunebu]

Very surprising to see Hamid Hassan in the Afghan squad. He hasn't played any form of cricket for the last one and half years!! He played his last ODI in 2016. I don't know why he was selected over players such as Shapoor Zadran and Karim Janat. One thing that could have worked out for him may be his earlier stint in English club cricket.

Probably internal politics. This is a common problem in all squads. For example, I never expected Vijay Shankar to be selected over someone like Rishabh Pant or Rayudu, but politics probably played a role here.

I don't think so in case  of Vijay Shankar. If you look back to my previous post from here, I had included Vijay Shankar in my playing XI for India. Am I someone from Indian Cricket Board's internal 
He has done way better than both Pant and Rayudu in last ODIs. I think Vijay Shankaar is good pick for the Indian team.

Way better? I disagree completely. The only reason he was chosen over Rayudu or Pant was because of his 3 Dimensional skills.

Pant and Rayudu are way better in the batting aspect in comparison, but they cannot bowl and India have enough wicketkeepers in their squad.

[Pffrt]

Way better? I disagree completely. The only reason he was chosen over Rayudu or Pant was because of his 3 Dimensional skills.

Pant and Rayudu are way better in the batting aspect in comparison, but they cannot bowl and India have enough wicketkeepers in their squad.

May be this is the reason. India already have Dhoni, Kartik and KL Rahul is in the team already. There's no point of including more wicket keepers. Vijay has the advantage there.

[JSRAW]

Good analysis but You forget about faf du Plessis,  de cock, Markham, David Miller. All are good batsmen. Markham is in very good form and performed well in domestic cricket. If these four batsmen perform for South Africa. They may choke once again but they have some chance.

I didn't mentioned about them for the very same reason you pointed out that they are doing great except David Miller ( I some how missed his name)

David Millar and Duminy are in same category. handy batsmen in middle order but not reliable and don't give much confidence. they are very much capable of playing match winning innings in middle order but didn't seen much firework from their bat lately.

I didn't followed Markham's domestic career or ODI much so don't have idea how good is he and yet to see him perform in ODI but he is very solid batsman in Test match that I know.

Faf and de-cock doing their job perfectly.

I merited you but not for this post lol.

It's for previous post which I can't find on phone. So meriting your latest post here in this thread. Cheers

I thought I would PM you, lol. Just kidding
By the way, it's not a better practise to merit on undeserving post although you have all the proof that you were looking for this post to merit. People may create a thread for abusing merit which will lead you to face a negative trust for a day or two.
Thank you anyway.
Sorry for the off topic reply here.

Correct, and thanks for heads-up will keep that in to my mind. {quoting without any edit for Future ref I something goes wrong lol }

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Warner will definitely will be on playing XI, but in that case, Usman Khawaja will probably not play. If Finch is going to play on one down, in that case, Khawaja has a chance to be in the XI.

I guess @Sithara pointed out this before that Finch is better player than Khawaja in Shorter format. so I may sound exactly like him because I think the same and would like to see Warner and Finch opening the inning for Oz.

[Sithara007]

Very surprising to see Hamid Hassan in the Afghan squad. He hasn't played any form of cricket for the last one and half years!! He played his last ODI in 2016. I don't know why he was selected over players such as Shapoor Zadran and Karim Janat. One thing that could have worked out for him may be his earlier stint in English club cricket.

Probably internal politics. This is a common problem in all squads. For example, I never expected Vijay Shankar to be selected over someone like Rishabh Pant or Rayudu, but politics probably played a role here.

Right now, the Indian players are divided in to two camps, being led by Dhoni and Kohli. From what I have heard, the selectors and the coach are supportive of Dhoni and his ex-CSK colleagues. Rishabh Pant is known to be close to Kohli and he was overlooked by the selectors who chose Dhoni's friend Dinesh Karthik. Vijay Shankar was preferred over Ambati Rayudu and although I am not sure about the politics behind it, I have my doubts. IMO, they should have given a chance to Pant, since he is an emerging player.

[JSRAW]

Very surprising to see Hamid Hassan in the Afghan squad. He hasn't played any form of cricket for the last one and half years!! He played his last ODI in 2016. I don't know why he was selected over players such as Shapoor Zadran and Karim Janat. One thing that could have worked out for him may be his earlier stint in English club cricket.

Probably internal politics. This is a common problem in all squads. For example, I never expected Vijay Shankar to be selected over someone like Rishabh Pant or Rayudu, but politics probably played a role here.

Right now, the Indian players are divided in to two camps, being led by Dhoni and Kohli. From what I have heard, the selectors and the coach are supportive of Dhoni and his ex-CSK colleagues. Rishabh Pant is known to be close to Kohli and he was overlooked by the selectors who chose Dhoni's friend Dinesh Karthik. Vijay Shankar was preferred over Ambati Rayudu and although I am not sure about the politics behind it, I have my doubts. IMO, they should have given a chance to Pant, since he is an emerging player.

I heard the totally different story.

About pant

1. Dhoni doesn't have much say in this situation.
2. Kohli takes his advice always
3. Ravi Shastri backs kohl's decisions.
4. Majority ofSelectors were in favor of selecting Pant over Dinesh Karthik.
5. Kohli put his foot down when selecting Pant.( main reason I already pointed out in my previous post)

About ambati raydu.

1. Management was not happy with him because of his recent failures and early retirement from domestic cricket didn't looked good as well (not enough match practice that's why he was rusty, every senior player criticized his actions)

Its another discussion that other regular players didnt played  domestic seasons as well but their performance didn't went down ex : Dhoni and sikhar, exactly same scenario if you look Australia, New Zealand tour closely

Call it bad luck or double standard but it's done for good and sadly he is out from this world cup squad.

[AB de Royse777]

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Call it bad luck or double standard but it's done for good and sadly he is out from this world cup squad.

Whatever it is, I think the board should trust their players and the players should trust their management. It is hard to get success in a tournament like World cup when you will not have much understanding in between the management and the players. Best of all, the entire country need to trust both their cricket board and the team.

I think whole India should be united and support their team no matter what they do. This will inspire the players to perform well. Leave everything aside and cheer up the team that will be going to the world cup tour.

The same apply for rest of the teams tool

[Haunebu]

Whatever it is, I think the board should trust their players and the players should trust their management. It is hard to get success in a tournament like World cup when you will not have much understanding in between the management and the players. Best of all, the entire country need to trust both their cricket board and the team.

I think whole India should be united and support their team no matter what they do. This will inspire the players to perform well. Leave everything aside and cheer up the team that will be going to the world cup tour.

The same apply for rest of the teams tool

Well said. Everyone will obviously root for the teams of their choice at the end of the day. If Shankar ends up performing well, everyone will forget about him being chosen over Pant and Rayudu, but the reverse will be the case if he underperforms.

Pressure is on him to perform well during the tournament.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Whatever it is, I think the board should trust their players and the players should trust their management. It is hard to get success in a tournament like World cup when you will not have much understanding in between the management and the players. Best of all, the entire country need to trust both their cricket board and the team.

I think whole India should be united and support their team no matter what they do. This will inspire the players to perform well. Leave everything aside and cheer up the team that will be going to the world cup tour.

The same apply for rest of the teams tool

Well said. Everyone will obviously root for the teams of their choice at the end of the day. If Shankar ends up performing well, everyone will forget about him being chosen over Pant and Rayudu, but the reverse will be the case if he underperforms.

Pressure is on him to perform well during the tournament.

First, Shankar needs to find a place in the playing XI. He may eventually manage to find a place, as his medium pace may prove very useful in the English conditions. Pant is still young and he should take this in a positive way. I have a feeling that he'll be definitely be a part of the squad for the next world cup (2023), along with young players such as Samson, Kamlesh Nagarkoti and Shivam Dube.

[Haunebu]

First, Shankar needs to find a place in the playing XI. He may eventually manage to find a place, as his medium pace may prove very useful in the English conditions. Pant is still young and he should take this in a positive way. I have a feeling that he'll be definitely be a part of the squad for the next world cup (2023), along with young players such as Samson, Kamlesh Nagarkoti and Shivam Dube.

Good point. 2023 is a long way away and many prospective players can emerge in that time frame which is why I won't be predicting anything so far into the future. Best example is Shami. He was basically cast aside and has worked hard and surprised everyone and is now a part of the World Cup squad.

Hard work is everything.

[Little Mouse]

First, Shankar needs to find a place in the playing XI. He may eventually manage to find a place, as his medium pace may prove very useful in the English conditions. Pant is still young and he should take this in a positive way. I have a feeling that he'll be definitely be a part of the squad for the next world cup (2023), along with young players such as Samson, Kamlesh Nagarkoti and Shivam Dube.

You have mentioned a lot of players. I can't see anyone other than Pant and Samson will be in the 2023 squad. For your info, most of the current players will also be playing in the next world cup too although form matters.

[syamster]

Way better? I disagree completely. The only reason he was chosen over Rayudu or Pant was because of his 3 Dimensional skills.

Pant and Rayudu are way better in the batting aspect in comparison, but they cannot bowl and India have enough wicketkeepers in their squad.

May be this is the reason. India already have Dhoni, Kartik and KL Rahul is in the team already. There's no point of including more wicket keepers. Vijay has the advantage there.

India is good team I know so many players are new but still there is some space to play well, wickets should be played well it needs practice, I think Pakistan will compete India well, 2019 world cup will go in favor of Pakistan I guess because new players are well trained and well played players..

[AB de Royse777]

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India is good team I know so many players are new but still there is some space to play well, wickets should be played well it needs practice, I think Pakistan will compete India well, 2019 world cup will go in favor of Pakistan I guess because new players are well trained and well played players..

Each team will play against each others in the group stage. So Pakistan will face India as well as all other team. Same with the others too.
Check this: https://www.cricketworldcup.com/fixtures

[Pffrt]

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India is good team I know so many players are new but still there is some space to play well, wickets should be played well it needs practice, I think Pakistan will compete India well, 2019 world cup will go in favor of Pakistan I guess because new players are well trained and well played players..

Each team will play against each others in the group stage. So Pakistan will face India as well as all other team. Same with the others too.
Check this: https://www.cricketworldcup.com/fixtures

He meant Pakistan will perform better against India 
I would like to see that's what happening. Current Pakistan team is weak one although India vs Pakistan matches can be different.

[JSRAW]

First, Shankar needs to find a place in the playing XI. He may eventually manage to find a place, as his medium pace may prove very useful in the English conditions. Pant is still young and he should take this in a positive way. I have a feeling that he'll be definitely be a part of the squad for the next world cup (2023), along with young players such as Samson, Kamlesh Nagarkoti and Shivam Dube.

My bet on this playing XI. chances are we are going to see this squad in starting phase.

1 Sikhar
2. Rohit
3. Virat
4. Shankar
5. Dhoni
6. Kedar
7.Hardik
8.Kuldeep
9.Chahal
10.Shami
11. Bumrah

4 regular bowler ( 2 seamer and 2 spinner) and 1 seamer allrounder (hardik) along with 2 batsmen cum part time bowlers ( Shankar, Kedar) this combination can work for India. Shankar can bowl 3-4 over, Kedar can act as a surprise factor, he can give 10 overs as well on his day. pandaya can bowl 5-6 over easily but would like to see him bowling atleast 8 overs average in world cup.

After that team could change according to pitch and performance.

If Opening pairs fails then KL will join the squad. Indian management can use him at number 3 as well and virat moving at number 4, we have seen this before. this will happen if Shankar fails to perform with the bat ( this looks worst scenario to me)

I am in favour of Kuldeep and chahal duo but if something goes wrong then hammer could drop on Chahal and Jadeja will take his place as a bowling allrounder, he can give 10 over easily and can do okay batting down in the lower order if situation demands.

If by any chance pitch favouring Fast bowler then Bhuvi can join the pace battery, again Chahal out in this scenario too unless kuldeep performing badly. this gives India 4 seamer option with 1 wrist spinner and part timers bowlers like Kedar jadhav and Shankar.

Dinesh kartik is last person to get in the playing XI IMHO. for this to happen KL Rahul and Vijay Shankar need to fail miserably, not a good scenario if you are Indian fan


For future India got good backup.

Prithvi, Shubham gill leading the way and list is very long and good thing is majority of new players are captain materials too. Prithvi, shubham, Shryes, Samson, Pant to name a few. I didn't mentioned fast bowlers and spinners ( India producing good pacer but lacking in producing promising wrist spinner in domestic level, hope for best that it changes in coming years)

Edit : Ishan Kishan added as Pffrt  mentioned about him and sorry if I am forgetting your fav players it may be because list is long list 

[Haunebu]

Way better? I disagree completely. The only reason he was chosen over Rayudu or Pant was because of his 3 Dimensional skills.

Pant and Rayudu are way better in the batting aspect in comparison, but they cannot bowl and India have enough wicketkeepers in their squad.

May be this is the reason. India already have Dhoni, Kartik and KL Rahul is in the team already. There's no point of including more wicket keepers. Vijay has the advantage there.

India is good team I know so many players are new but still there is some space to play well, wickets should be played well it needs practice, I think Pakistan will compete India well, 2019 world cup will go in favor of Pakistan I guess because new players are well trained and well played players..

Pakistan? Seriously? Have you been watching them recently? Based on recent form, Pakistan does not look like it will even make it to the quarters(Forget beating India). The old Pakistan teams seriously gave other teams a run for their money, but the current team has been under-performing since ages. They have no chance in my opinion.

[Pffrt]

Prithvi, Shubham gill leading the way and list is very long and good thing is majority of new players are captain materials too. Prithvi, shubham, Shryes, Samson, Pant to name a few. I didn't mentioned fast bowlers and spinners ( India producing good pacer but lacking in producing promising wrist spinner in domestic level, hope for best that it changes in coming years)

You probably have forgotten to mention Ishan Kishan 
He is going to be something big for team India, I'm sure. I have seen his performance. I'm one of his big fan in fact.

[AB de Royse777]

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Good insight bud. I left couple merit for you. Sometimes I wonder if it looks bad that most of the merit I sent was to you LOL
Honestly speaking  I enjoy your cricketing analysis.

Few questions: Have you tried to test your cricketing picks in the IPL?
If yes than is there any percentage you can think of. (Accuracy)

World cup will be an interesting event to gamble LOL and you know (I guess) about my gambling interest in cricket LOL
I lost a lot in IPL DAMN!