Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ?

[Ultegra134]

mRNA vaccines are not new, they have been under development for over 20 years. It's just that they don't work. Also the spike protein doesn't always stay in the muscle tissue, but can escape and float round the body, before settling in important organs. There is no research or information on the effect this will have, but it is certainly not beneficial.

I understand how they work, and they are a step closer to the use of the live virus. I just don't understand why they don't use the live virus to create natural immunity. Oh wait, there isn't any money in that.

mRNA is an old technology indeed, however it's far from ineffective. It's a promising technology to even cure some forms of cancer, which is currently in clinical testing, I don't get where you got your sources from. On top of that, there are already quite a few vaccines that are using a live virus to create immunity, such as the AstraZeneca, Sputnik and Johnson.

I think you got it all wrong.

[tvbcof]

mRNA vaccines are not new, they have been under development for over 20 years. It's just that they don't work. Also the spike protein doesn't always stay in the muscle tissue, but can escape and float round the body, before settling in important organs. There is no research or information on the effect this will have, but it is certainly not beneficial.
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Just to note, a bigger concern is not so much about the spike proteins themselves (made by genetically modified muscle cells) floating around, but more so about the LNPs which carry the genetic reprogramming payloads homing in on certain tissues and thus infecting certain cell types which are found here and there around the body.  These LNPs have been shown (by Pfizer to Japan before it was leaked) to have an affinity for both the spleen and the ovaries.

Now, for the last half decade or so I remember various scientism rag stories about 'new targeted drug delivery systems'.  News from that front went oddly quite for a year or so before the plandemic kicked off.  It's not the only thing which is big news to geeks then suddenly practically vanishes without a trace.  One of these days I'll look back and see if it were LNPs or related which were of such interest back then.

[beertoll]

mRNA vaccines are not new, they have been under development for over 20 years. It's just that they don't work. Also the spike protein doesn't always stay in the muscle tissue, but can escape and float round the body, before settling in important organs. There is no research or information on the effect this will have, but it is certainly not beneficial.
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Just to note, a bigger concern is not so much about the spike proteins themselves (made by genetically modified muscle cells) floating around, but more so about the LNPs which carry the genetic reprogramming payloads homing in on certain tissues and thus infecting certain cell types which are found here and there around the body.  These LNPs have been shown (by Pfizer to Japan before it was leaked) to have an affinity for both the spleen and the ovaries.

Now, for the last half decade or so I remember various scientism rag stories about 'new targeted drug delivery systems'.  News from that front went oddly quite for a year or so before the plandemic kicked off.  It's not the only thing which is big news to geeks then suddenly practically vanishes without a trace.  One of these days I'll look back and see if it were LNPs or related which were of such interest back then.

I clicked "unwatch" this thread. Why is this sourceless insane delirium still gets emailed to me?

[tvbcof]

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I clicked "unwatch" this thread. Why is this sourceless insane delirium still gets emailed to me?

The 'meta' board is where you would ask such questions.

[Quickseller]

In worst case scenario, a third dose can be administered, to fight the newest strains, that's what happens with the influenza virus too.

The flu vaccine is usually different each year and will depend on the mutations of the flu from the prior year.

The Covid vaccine is safe and effective and is more effective when measuring by serious cases of Covid requiring ICU hospitalization or death.

There is a risk that the Covid vaccine will harm you, but the risk is less than the benefit that it gives you via reducing the chances of you being seriously harmed by Covid, even if you are healthy.

[franky1]

mRNA vaccines are not new, they have been under development for over 20 years. It's just that they don't work. Also the spike protein doesn't always stay in the muscle tissue, but can escape and float round the body, before settling in important organs. There is no research or information on the effect this will have, but it is certainly not beneficial.

I understand how they work, and they are a step closer to the use of the live virus. I just don't understand why they don't use the live virus to create natural immunity. Oh wait, there isn't any money in that.

you know less than you think you know. and not willing to learn the bits you dont know

to create a 'live virus' that is attenuated to not replicate as much. requires incubating it at low temperatures, over multiple generations until its attained a function that at normal body temperatures it cant function its replication effectively

this was the NIH/Wuhan study of 2016-2020 that conspiracy idiots thought was covid research. . yep they used 2002 sars from bats found 2008-2018 and tried to attenuate them down into being 'live virus that does not replicate'.. and results is. it was to long a production process and unable to be done to then mass produce a vaccine for the world.. yep its not a GAIN of function found in the study. it was actually a study on attenuating down the function..

EG its like
(send a man to the arctic to have kids, grandkids, great grandkids where they get used to having sex in the snow.. then you will find if you take that multi-generational descendant to the carribean. he will be too sunburned and sweaty and heat stroked and not wanna have sex.)

this is the method that usually takes a long time to produce. and does not always work

some say that a live virus has more then just the spike protein identifier and having more then just the spike identifier means more things for immune system to learn about a virus.
the problem is the more different things it tries to learn to attack. the less it can concentrate on any single battle plan. thus making the immune system too diluted with too many differing antibodies.

EG its like
instead of one army training camp trained to recognise al-queda by the black flag with white writing. jetcash's idea is a training camp with small groups of troops. one trained to attack anyone with a head scarf. another small set to attack anyone with sandals and another small troop group to attach anyone without caucasian skin

best action is all troops should go after the guys waving the al-queda flag

by identifying one aspect that really does affect the body. like its spike 'key' into a cells 'lock' to open a cell up for invasion. this can be used more effectively to identify the virus holding the key before it gets to a lock. or identify an intruder if it gets to a cells door with the key

by having antibodies (small little Y shape) trained for the spike. these can latch onto the spike(key) and block it from being able to fit the lock. thus no invasion into a cell. and then send a message to kill the thing they just blocked with the other immuno cells

but if you have a mix of antibodies lokking for different things. the amount of antibodies that wil latch onto the spike is decreased

more varied antibodies=less antibodies for specific function..

in short the simpleist solution is the quickest solution

[mindrust]

There is a risk that the Covid vaccine will harm you, but the risk is less than the benefit that it gives you via reducing the chances of you being seriously harmed by Covid, even if you are healthy.

If you don't know about the long term effects of the vaccine, how can you say there is less risk than the potential benefits?

The vaccine is being tested on people right now and its long term effects will be visible (if there are any) years later from now.

You sound pretty stewpid.

[franky1]

There is a risk that the Covid vaccine will harm you, but the risk is less than the benefit that it gives you via reducing the chances of you being seriously harmed by Covid, even if you are healthy.

If you don't know about the long term effects of the vaccine, how can you say there is less risk than the potential benefits?

The vaccine is being tested on people right now and its long term effects will be visible (if there are any) years later from now.

You sound pretty stewpid.

mRNA is not new science. mRNA research has been done for years
mRNA breaks down in days. the protein(spike) it instructs to make breaks down in weeks. if the immune system has not dealt with it sooner.

mRNA does not have the lengthier code needed to pass the nucleus membrane.
mRNA does not have the lengthier code needed to change DNA

mRNA code goes to the ribosome to create a protein..
mRNA does not create a length of genetic material
there is no replication of more mRNA
there is not genetic editing

.. if you have an egg in the kitchen.. its not fertilised to produce a chicken which then produces more eggs. instead it is used to make an omelette

the ribosome(fryingpan) cracks the egg and cooks it into a new protein along with some other ingrediants
the egg does not go into a incubator
an egg cant even open an oven door to even be incubated. it lacks the hands needed for that job

[Tash]

CV-19 Vaccine Autopsy Report
https://drive.google.com/file/d/101Ymdg-pgX3GWty3R88GhVrNxrd4pPeP/view?fbclid=IwAR3WxX7YjZUGAYoqTAEQNjQFv5kex18PhBsU1Dvpt9CnIeHImiIaxvCv0vs

[mindrust]

New AirDrop.

Joe Biden, The President of Murica, gives one hundred dollars to everybody that gets his gene therapy. You heard it bois, free moniii

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpsuAJMRefg

If I was American, I would take that deal. Go go go collect them Biden bucks and buy yourself an ice cream or some dogecoins.

Aren't you grateful?

 

The competition is heating.

Vanguard offers $1000 to get its employees vaccinated.

Joe's $100 looks even smaller than what it did before.


Investment firm Vanguard is offering $1,000 as an incentive for employees to get vaccinated

Investment firm Vanguard is offering its employees $1,000 to get vaccinated by October, according to a Bloomberg report on Tuesday.

Vanguard will give the cash reward to US-based employees who can provide proof of vaccination, confirmed a Vanguard spokesperson in an email to Insider. "The incentive recognizes crew who have taken the time to protect themselves, each other, and our communities by being vaccinated," she said.

Joe says he would get vaccinated three times to collect his a hundred thou.. uhm. err... 3 hundred dollars.  

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1422659822768558088

But Vanguard pays, $1000 Joe.

Time to raise to price to... uhm... err... a hundred thousand dollars?

[Smitt]

The existence of a Covid-19 vaccine, which is likely to be the pinnacle of hope in overcoming the problem of the pandemic, seems less enthusiastic about being welcomed by residents. Various issues in providing vaccines (vaccine effectiveness, vaccine side effects, halal, and paid or free) are likely to be interrelated in shaping public perception.

However, there seems to be something more basic, the majority of citizens only feel a little threatened from the pandemic, so they don't have an urgent need to be vaccinated, especially if they have to pay in the current weakening economic conditions.

[Lordhermes]

The existence of a Covid-19 vaccine, which is likely to be the pinnacle of hope in overcoming the problem of the pandemic, seems less enthusiastic about being welcomed by residents. Various issues in providing vaccines (vaccine effectiveness, vaccine side effects, halal, and paid or free) are likely to be interrelated in shaping public perception.

However, there seems to be something more basic, the majority of citizens only feel a little threatened from the pandemic, so they don't have an urgent need to be vaccinated, especially if they have to pay in the current weakening economic conditions.

People are not enthusiastic about taking this vaccine maybe because there is a claim that the vaccine kills.Some are scared of the side effect.Every drug has little side effect,it it's what shows that the drugs is active.The world needs to be serious about taking this vaccine especially the areas that suffered most victim of the virus.

[Tash]

During an international game, two female fully vaccinated cricketers collapse, convulsing
A well standing around the field and looking bored is strenuous
https://thebl.com/health/during-an-international-game-two-female-fully-vaccinated-cricketers-collapse-convulsing.html

Pfizer CEO still not vaccinated
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/pfizer-ceos-israel-visit-cancelled-because-he-is-unvaccinated-report-661100

German chief pathologist sounds alarm on fatal vaccine injuries
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/08/03/german-chief-pathologist-sounds-alarm-on-fatal-vaccine-injuries/

[Ultegra134]

During an international game, two female fully vaccinated cricketers collapse, convulsing
A well standing around the field and looking bored is strenuous
https://thebl.com/health/during-an-international-game-two-female-fully-vaccinated-cricketers-collapse-convulsing.html

Pfizer CEO still not vaccinated
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/pfizer-ceos-israel-visit-cancelled-because-he-is-unvaccinated-report-661100

German chief pathologist sounds alarm on fatal vaccine injuries
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/08/03/german-chief-pathologist-sounds-alarm-on-fatal-vaccine-injuries/

I didn't bother to even check all the articles, however, I can easily guess their content by simply looking at your second link. Firstly, it's from early March, and we have August now, and more importantly, this has already been debunked. Pfizer's CEO Alberto Bourla is of course, vaccinated.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/30/fact-check-pfizer-ceo-albert-bourla-received-covid-19-vaccine/7028843002/

[Sayeds56]

I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?

I do trust that vaccination is important to protect ourselves fron any sever condition that may result  hospitalization if we get covid-19. We should get vaccine whatever is available in our counties on priority basis  becuase there is now sufficient evidence available to prove  that it might not protect you from covid-19 but it protects you to keep the disease under control and you will get cured without hospitalization becuase vaccination will initiate the processs of anti bodies and build immunity against covid-19.

[Tash]

@Ultegra134

You mean  he got shot twice already? Will he file charges as no virus exist
Hole in skin after shot with needle. Credit; Science photo library

[hornetsnest]

German chief pathologist sounds alarm on fatal vaccine injuries
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/08/03/german-chief-pathologist-sounds-alarm-on-fatal-vaccine-injuries/

Yes they then set the media dogs and usual tools to do a number on his ass dr goebbels style

[Tash]

The so called vaccine is nothing more than a larger scale Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
We always knew that be the case, 30% of all vaccinated received a placebo.  
https://twitter.com/i/status/1423586685611253767
If master decided its time to go then so it is

[BobK71]

Covid-19 virus spreading all over the world. Most of the countries failed to control it. Everyday lusts of people die of this virus. If the world does not control it then shorltly then two third of the people of the world will die. Vaccination some time dangerous or have side effect but the risk-benefit ratio is critical for any vaccine, and because COVID-19 transmission is still dangerously high in much of the world, these relatively minor side-effects are still far outweighed by the benefits of taking the vaccine otherwise no way.

[Ebede]

I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?

I don't even know while many people is against the vaccine is that covid19 vaccine is not really working or they just dislike the use of it just like that, actually i decide on me that i will not take the vaccine but everything like law of covid19 i will obey but taking vaccine is not now maybe in will obey the law in my next generation,so many people don't believe that the vaccine is functioning effectively, they all believe that vaccine is something that can cause harm and it's already causing harm.