[Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos

[Rating Place]

I cant really remember if chips.gg was on the list or not, or it was but you have removed it maybe for a reason.
Are you going to add them on the list?

Chips.gg was on the list before but I removed them in December 2023 after news and screenshots got leaked that the owner is asking his staff to withhold withdrawals from winning players in a hope that they will gamble some or all of it away while their accounts get "investigated."

Here is the post I made at that time:

Update:

I have removed Chips.gg from the table. The casino operates without a casino license, and I have seen information that points towards Chips.gg locking player accounts to prevent winning players from cashing out. Read the scam accusation below for more information. The evidence isn't public but can be found on 3rd-party sites for those who know where to look. Don't say anything more on that subject please!

How I got scammed by chips.gg with insane proof from their employee

However, a mediator couldn't prove their guilt and nothing else happened after that. I was also made aware of their alleged wrongdoings by a trusted member of this forum via PM, which gives credence to the story. Still, it seems that nothing has been proved. I am not sure, but I might consider re-adding them to the table.

Yikes. That's very shitty if it's true.

But anyway, what I wanted to ask you is that why don't you try to get this table on other websites like BTCGOSU and, I dunno, maybe Ratings Place or some other sites that rate casinos and compare them. I'm not very familiar with that scene. Because they could really make good use of this data, doing things like sorting by withdrawal fee instead of alphabetically for example.

Although I don't have a comparison of withdrawal fees, Pmalek's thread here is linked. I have the same information as Haunebu. Bitcoin Betting was created by the same team that created Fairlay. The Fairlay website will be closed at some point. BB is totally anonymous, KYC will not be done and limits with not be slashed. Currently they are invite only. People can get an invite code by sending them a PM.

[notblox1]

I don't have a website and I have no coding skills so I don't have a GitHub account either.

You dont need to have coding skills for this and if you dont have your own website you can use github as hosting platform.
This would work like it is your website because you mostly need to add texttual information without complex codes and images.
I think this is all free and you dont have to pay anything, just create github account.
https://docs.github.com/en/pages/getting-started-with-github-pages/creating-a-github-pages-site

[delfastTions]

I don't have a website and I have no coding skills so I don't have a GitHub account either.

You dont need to have coding skills for this and if you dont have your own website you can use github as hosting platform.
This would work like it is your website because you mostly need to add texttual information without complex codes and images.
I think this is all free and you dont have to pay anything, just create github account.
https://docs.github.com/en/pages/getting-started-with-github-pages/creating-a-github-pages-site

So did the OP take this advice or is it still quite difficult to implement?

For someone who does not have the appropriate programming skills, it still takes quite a lot of time even if you just start such work at a primitive level. And often a colossal amount of time is spent on solving individual issues that for a professional with experience generally take seconds. And for a complete beginner without any advisors, it often takes too much time. Therefore, it is worth thinking carefully whether you need to do this.

[Pmalek]

So did the OP take this advice or is it still quite difficult to implement?

I have not recreated this table and topic elsewhere. It's exclusive for Bitcointalk and not available in other places. Not by me at least. To tell you the truth, if I wasn't a longtime member of Bitcointalk where there is a big gambling community, I doubt I would have even gotten the idea to create something like this. 

[Mahdirakib]

@Pmalek, I have checked the minimum withdrawal amount of each casino when I was trying to update my topics. Here are some updates which you may adjust here now.

- Bitsler min withdrawal is 0.0001 BTC.
- Fairly withdrawal fee has been reduced to 0.0002 BTC.
- Flush withdrawal fee is equivalent to 5 USDT.
- Futuur no longer support Bitcoin deposit and withdrawal.
- Gamdom min withdrawal limit is $65.3 now.
- LuckyDiamond doesn't support Bitcoin withdrawal. I had also informed you about this one year ago
- Windice has reduced the withdrawal cap to 0.0002 BTC.

[Pmalek]

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Hello Mahdirakib,

Thanks for the update and bumping this thread. I haven't checked the data in a while. I will go through the entire list and also make the changes you highlighted. I can no longer update the numbers in the table myself and will need to contact LoyceV to do it for me on his end when I make sure I have entered  the correct amounts.

Cheers! 

[Pmalek]

@Pmalek, I have checked the minimum withdrawal amount of each casino when I was trying to update my topics. Here are some updates which you may adjust here now.

- Bitsler min withdrawal is 0.0001 BTC.
- Fairly withdrawal fee has been reduced to 0.0002 BTC.
- Flush withdrawal fee is equivalent to 5 USDT.
- Futuur no longer support Bitcoin deposit and withdrawal.
- Gamdom min withdrawal limit is $65.3 now.
- LuckyDiamond doesn't support Bitcoin withdrawal. I had also informed you about this one year ago
- Windice has reduced the withdrawal cap to 0.0002 BTC.

I have made the changes you highlighted in the table in OP. The only difference I found to what you wrote is with Gamdom. It seems they are changing the minimum withdrawal amounts quite often. Perhaps it was $65.30 in BTC when you checked, but when I took a look today, it was $73.33. Therefore, I added that to the table.

[Mahdirakib]

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I just tried to find out some old discussion about Gamdom minimum withdrawal here, and noticed that their withdrawal limit fluctuates a lot. You had received different information about their min withdrawal limit . It won't be possible for anyone to give up-to-date information about their withdrawal. User have to verify the minimum withdrawal from their withdrawal page as it fluctuates.

BTW, I had forgotten to give an update about Wolfbet minimum withdrawal limit. They have reduced it to 0.0005 BTC. Also, you can remove the dot (.) from Wolf.bet, because they have changed the domain name to Wolfbet.com.

[Pmalek]

I just tried to find out some old discussion about Gamdom minimum withdrawal here, and noticed that their withdrawal limit fluctuates a lot. You had received different information about their min withdrawal limit . It won't be possible for anyone to give up-to-date information about their withdrawal. User have to verify the minimum withdrawal from their withdrawal page as it fluctuates.

I remember that discussion now. Multiple people saw different numbers on their end when checking. I will leave it as it is for now. Not sure why they are changing the minimums so often.

BTW, I had forgotten to give an update about Wolfbet minimum withdrawal limit. They have reduced it to 0.0005 BTC. Also, you can remove the dot (.) from Wolf.bet, because they have changed the domain name to Wolfbet.com.

I can confirm that I can see the same amount in my account. I have to keep my table updates to a minimum because I don't want LoyceV to start hating me for bothering him too often . I have removed the (.) from the name. Thanks for the tip!

[LoyceV]

I have to keep my table updates to a minimum because I don't want LoyceV to start hating me for bothering him too often

If you could upload The List anywhere that allows you to edit it and lets me download it as text, that would work for me and you can update it as often as you want.

[notblox1]

I can confirm that I can see the same amount in my account. I have to keep my table updates to a minimum

Did someone created any bot or used some AI tools to check withdrawal fees on all this casinos, or you are still have to do everything manually?
I don't expect to see changes happening all the time but it would be good to have something monitoring any changes.

[Mahdirakib]

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It won't be possible to get an update about the minimum withdrawal of every casino through any bot or AI tools. In most of the casinos, the minimum withdrawal information isn't available on the FAQ or other pages. It can only be checked manually from the withdrawal page. Moreover, you won't be able to check the min withdrawal limit of some casinos by visiting the withdrawal page only. For example, you need to have balance in your account to check it.

Although it is possible to create a bot to collect the information about min withdrawal, but you have to take API access from every casino to know the withdrawal information. None of the casinos give API access of their withdrawal page to anyone.

[Pmalek]

Did someone created any bot or used some AI tools to check withdrawal fees on all this casinos, or you are still have to do everything manually?

All changes I ever made in this topic were done after manual checks. I don't know of a bot that can get the needed information and whose accuracy we can trust. Mahdirakib already mentioned why. Generally, changes in minimum withdrawal amounts and fees is something you can expect after bigger increases or decreases in Bitcoin's value. Casinos will then usually adjust to the new market realities in an attempt to stay above the competition.

[notblox1]

It won't be possible to get an update about the minimum withdrawal of every casino through any bot or AI tools.

I dont know what to think but it is crazy to see what people are doing with AI tools these days.
Maybe some AI tools are even using this topic to collect all the information about casino withdrawal fees and amounts.

All changes I ever made in this topic were done after manual checks.

You are hard working old fashioned man  

[Pmalek]

I dont know what to think but it is crazy to see what people are doing with AI told these days.

Each casino is different, although most of them show the minimum withdrawal amounts and fees on the withdrawal pages. The AI bot would have to know exactly where to look and have access to accounts at these casinos. I am not sure if that would work because AI likes to search its database or the internet when asked something. That's not appropriate because the information has to be acquired from the casino itself, not third parties who may have outdated information on the subject.

[bullbandit9]

Casinos that charge the highest withdrawal fees:
1.   BetHash - 0.002 BTC:

Casinos that have the highest minimum withdrawal amounts:

1.   BetHash - 0.02 BTC:

I think your summary down here is wrong. You are using different Bitcoin amounts but the USD image shows the same amount for both. I think for the first point you wanted to include the other image which is this one.

http://proxyimages.bitcoindata.science/Pmalek/BetHash2.gif

Nice overview thread I am glad I found it, and I can't believe this terrible casino exists. Some really have horrible conditions that many players may not be aware of in advance.

[Pmalek]

I think your summary down here is wrong. You are using different Bitcoin amounts but the USD image shows the same amount for both. I think for the first point you wanted to include the other image which is this one.

You are right. It was wrong. Thanks for paying attention! I corrected it now. At first I thought the mistake was with the data in the table but couldn't find anything wrong with it. Cheers!

Nice overview thread I am glad I found it, and I can't believe this terrible casino exists. Some really have horrible conditions that many players may not be aware of in advance.

I don't understand BetHash's logic. It's like they don't care at all. In all these years of maintaining this thread, they have kept those same fees and never once decreased any of it. I don't know how much they charge for altcoin withdrawals (I never checked), but if it's something ridiculous as they do with bitcoin, then I don't see the point of operating a casino. I can't see any sane and knowledgeable player gambling at a site like that unless they are offering something incredible in other areas that I am not aware of.

[FortuneFollower]

I think your summary down here is wrong. You are using different Bitcoin amounts but the USD image shows the same amount for both. I think for the first point you wanted to include the other image which is this one.

You are right. It was wrong. Thanks for paying attention! I corrected it now. At first I thought the mistake was with the data in the table but couldn't find anything wrong with it. Cheers!

Nice overview thread I am glad I found it, and I can't believe this terrible casino exists. Some really have horrible conditions that many players may not be aware of in advance.

I don't understand BetHash's logic. It's like they don't care at all. In all these years of maintaining this thread, they have kept those same fees and never once decreased any of it. I don't know how much they charge for altcoin withdrawals (I never checked), but if it's something ridiculous as they do with bitcoin, then I don't see the point of operating a casino. I can't see any sane and knowledgeable player gambling at a site like that unless they are offering something incredible in other areas that I am not aware of.

Or they bet that their players would not be as good as to search for somewhere better, which is totally not true if they've got the community like we have there.

 

[notblox1]

I don't understand BetHash's logic. It's like they don't care at all. In all these years of maintaining this thread, they have kept those same fees and never once decreased any of it.

Imagine a day when 1 bitcoin equals 1 million USD and they still have the exact same fees 
I think they dont care about this, and I dont know anyone who is using their casino, I never used it and I will never used it in future.
Few years ago I loved experimenting and testing new casinos, but now they need to offer something special to make me create new account.

[Pmalek]

I think they dont care about this, and I dont know anyone who is using their casino, I never used it and I will never used it in future.

I have never heard anyone mentioning this casino in a positive way either. I can see that they organized giveaways back in 2019/2020, and there was even a bounty campaign for a token of theirs. Their forum representative was last active in 2024, but the last post from their account was in 2023. It seems like they just abandoned the forum, seeing that they can't establish a significant player base here.