🔥 GingerWallet.io - Desktop, Non-custodial, Open source | #CoinJoin

[bennchl]

✍️ Sign Message
Easily prove ownership of your wallet address — a useful tool for exchanges under new EU rules.

What is this for?

[GingerWallet]

✍️ Sign Message
Easily prove ownership of your wallet address — a useful tool for exchanges under new EU rules.

What is this for?

This feature lets you cryptographically prove that a Bitcoin address belongs to you without having to send any coins.

An exchange (or another service) might ask you to do this under the new EU rules when you deposit or withdraw, so they can verify that the address is yours and not part of illicit activity.

You simply sign a short message they give you with your wallet’s private key, and they can check the signature to confirm ownership, all without revealing your key or moving funds.

[Pmalek]

Hey, GingerWallet became a partner of one Bitcoin quest. Anyone who is attentive will be able to collect a seed phrase of 12 words, where each word will be published on Twitter or Nostr from August 8 to 15.

🎯 Bitcoin Quest - Starts on August 08! [0.01 BTC]

The hunt for the seed words is over now. Someone cracked the wallet and took the prize.
https://x.com/sathunterz/status/1956348125339177250

They still haven't released the correct words or sequence of them. I tried to follow the clues and figure out the seed myself, but I doubt that I got more than half of them. Congratulations to the person who did, though.
The team will organize similar seed hunts every couple of months.

[GingerWallet]

📺 New video available: How to Send with Ginger Wallet
Discover how simple and powerful sending Bitcoin is with Ginger Wallet.

Watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nf5aAimfhg

[GingerWallet]

🎥 New video: Receive Bitcoin in Ginger Wallet — in a few clicks. Generate a fresh address, share the QR code, and choose SegWit or Taproot.

Watch: https://youtu.be/cqv35wBDWMQ

[GingerWallet]

FYI

In Ginger you can buy Bitcoin without uploading any document 👀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEqTBzm5MEA

[olivergt]

Does the coin come from the exchange or someone from that exchange directly?

[Pmalek]

Does the coin come from the exchange or someone from that exchange directly?

Depending on your country (GingerWallet will ask for your country of residence), you will see several offers available to you. They are from different exchanges, more precisely fiat on/off ramps. Browse through the offers and select the one you like the most. That's it. Some providers may require KYC while others don't. You will see a notification if no KYC documents are needed.

[GingerWallet]

DarkGrey explains why "free" WabiSabi coordinators don’t exist. Even at 0% fee some sats go to the coordinator: https://medium.com/@gingerwallet/sats-for-privacy-coinjoin-costs-explained-for-wabisabi-users-8ed01396b6ae

[JollyGood]

Even if dust was to go towards a coordinator, do you think the end user would prefer to pay for coinjoins using Ginger Wallet or get them for free using an alternative? Unless I am missing the obvious, for those that use a coinjoin service paying 0% fees + dust is better than paying 0.3% after the free coinjoin limits are exceeded.

I could be wrong but it seems as though you are posting about this in order to justify the fee based system Ginger Wallet operates.

DarkGrey explains why "free" WabiSabi coordinators don’t exist. Even at 0% fee some sats go to the coordinator: https://medium.com/@gingerwallet/sats-for-privacy-coinjoin-costs-explained-for-wabisabi-users-8ed01396b6ae

[GingerWallet]

I’m not trying to justify anything here. The point is that people still misunderstand what they’re actually paying for in coinjoin.

Ginger Wallet runs as a real, registered business and pays taxes. That has costs, obviously. Many of the "free" WabiSabi coordinators run anonymously with no visible legal entity, licensing, or tax compliance. In a lot of jurisdictions operating a paid mixing service like that is illegal, and services that ignore those rules tend to get shut down or vanish without warning. That risk is part of the user’s total cost whether it’s shown in a banner or not.

Also, "free" can become very expensive later. There are public cases on Reddit and Telegram where coins were frozen at exchanges after mixing through those free coordinators that were heavily abused by criminals. One example people discussed was around 3 BTC getting stuck. Imagine losing 3 BTC just because you chose a "free" coordinator that is actively being used by criminals to launder stolen funds and your coins got frozen. Would that still feel free to you?

Use whatever you prefer, but factor in legality, longevity, and post-mix spendability, not just a headline fee.

[joker_josue]

I’m not trying to justify anything here. The point is that people still misunderstand what they’re actually paying for in coinjoin.

Ginger Wallet runs as a real, registered business and pays taxes. That has costs, obviously. Many of the "free" WabiSabi coordinators run anonymously with no visible legal entity, licensing, or tax compliance. In a lot of jurisdictions operating a paid mixing service like that is illegal, and services that ignore those rules tend to get shut down or vanish without warning. That risk is part of the user’s total cost whether it’s shown in a banner or not.

Also, "free" can become very expensive later. There are public cases on Reddit and Telegram where coins were frozen at exchanges after mixing through those free coordinators that were heavily abused by criminals. One example people discussed was around 3 BTC getting stuck. Imagine losing 3 BTC just because you chose a "free" coordinator that is actively being used by criminals to launder stolen funds and your coins got frozen. Would that still feel free to you?

Use whatever you prefer, but factor in legality, longevity, and post-mix spendability, not just a headline fee.

Unless you do AML on all coins that pass through the wallet and the coinjoin service, you may experience the same kind of problem.

The coinjoin process is detected in most cases. If an exchange or other service has an AML system configured to block coins from this source, even coins that pass through GingerWallet.io are exposed to these situations.

[hugeblack]

Ginger Wallet runs as a real, registered business and pays taxes. That has costs, obviously. Many of the "free" WabiSabi coordinators run anonymously with no visible legal entity, licensing, or tax compliance. In a lot of jurisdictions operating a paid mixing service like that is illegal, and services that ignore those rules tend to get shut down or vanish without warning. That risk is part of the user’s total cost whether it’s shown in a banner or not.

It's true that you can't choose another coordinator, but Ginger a.k.a InvisibleBit LLC^[1] has no legal responsibility for you. The only difference is that you won't be scammed with higher fees. the risks are still the same as using a random coordinator.

Unless you do AML on all coins that pass through the wallet and the coinjoin service, you may experience the same kind of problem.

They do "COIN FILTERING" so the results might be better than other coordinators but I don't know if the exchanges give any value to this.


[1] https://github.com/GingerPrivacy/GingerWallet/tree/master/WalletWasabi/Legal/Assets

[GingerWallet]

In the 3 BTC case, the exchange explicitly told the user their coins were linked to the Bybit theft that had been laundered through Wasabi coinjoin rounds. The user didn't "do anything wrong". They simply ended up in rounds where a large share of inputs came from that theft cluster. That is why the account was frozen. It was not "coinjoin got flagged" in the abstract. It was the stolen funds being washed in the very same coinjoin as regular users.

This is exactly the risk we keep pointing out with "free" coordinators that are actively abused by criminals. If you co-mix with known-bad clusters, your otherwise clean coins inherit that exposure when they hit an exchange.

On the AML comment: no wallet or coordinator can guarantee how every exchange scores flows. What we can do is reduce obvious co-mixing risk. Ginger's coordinator applies coin filtering to keep out known high-risk clusters when we become aware of them. That is not AML on every participant and it is not a promise of immunity at exchanges, but it materially lowers the chance of a Bybit-style freeze scenario compared to an uncurated "free" coordinator.

And on "legal responsibility": you are right that we cannot indemnify users against third-party exchange policies. The point of operating as a real company with published terms, taxes, and an accountable compliance posture is service continuity and lowering user risk over time, not pretending we can control exchange scoring.

[JollyGood]

Ginger Wallet runs as a real, registered business and pays taxes. That has costs, obviously. Many of the "free" WabiSabi coordinators run anonymously with no visible legal entity, licensing, or tax compliance. In a lot of jurisdictions operating a paid mixing service like that is illegal, and services that ignore those rules tend to get shut down or vanish without warning. That risk is part of the user’s total cost whether it’s shown in a banner or not.

Also, "free" can become very expensive later. There are public cases on Reddit and Telegram where coins were frozen at exchanges after mixing through those free coordinators that were heavily abused by criminals. One example people discussed was around 3 BTC getting stuck. Imagine losing 3 BTC just because you chose a "free" coordinator that is actively being used by criminals to launder stolen funds and your coins got frozen. Would that still feel free to you?

Though I understand your position on this matter, the fact remains if an exchange wants to block a transfer you will be unable to stop them. Not only that, you will be unable to unblock the transfer to retrieve the funds too. How will you help someone if their funds are blocked by an exchange?

It's true that you can't choose another coordinator, but Ginger a.k.a InvisibleBit LLC^[1] has no legal responsibility for you. The only difference is that you won't be scammed with higher fees. the risks are still the same as using a random coordinator.

If someone does get their funds frozen by an exchange, Ginger Wallet will be unable to help them get the funds released. Them being registered a business that pays taxes will not help customers if funds are frozen by a third party (unless they post to claim otherwise).

[hugeblack]

This is exactly the risk we keep pointing out with "free" coordinators that are actively abused by criminals. If you co-mix with known-bad clusters, your otherwise clean coins inherit that exposure when they hit an exchange.

Many services have tried to be in the middle ground when it comes to privacy, and governments haven't respected these steps.

But overall, we can say that GingerWallet is safer (if you want to deposit to centralized platforms), and the fees aren't as high as mixers.

[cygan]

yesterday the new 2.0.22 version of the ginger wallet was released!
there are several new features and some bug fixes... you can see the complete changelog here including all download files
https://github.com/GingerPrivacy/GingerWallet/releases/tag/v2.0.22

[GingerWallet]

Introducing Secret Hunt — a brand-new way to experience CoinJoin in Ginger Wallet!

Privacy just got fun.
With Secret Hunt, every CoinJoin round gives you a secret word… collect all 12 + the bonus passphrase, restore the hidden wallet, and claim ~€50 in BTC.
Fastest one wins.

No logs. Fully verifiable. Pure Bitcoin.
Launching November 2025 on desktop.

Join the hunt. Strengthen your privacy. Win Bitcoin.