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[BABY SHOES]

Bilbao thwarted everything, and obviously my bet lost because of the draw result of Bilabao vs Girona, I don't want to bet now, and I agree with the choice for Aston Villa, even though the standings are very far below, hopefully this will be Aston Villa first win

Now my bet has been ruined by the RB Salzburg vs Porto match... I thought there would be goals in both halves, but Porto ended up winning at the end of the game.

At first, I had a feeling Porto would win, but again, this was an away game, so I thought the home team might score, but it turned out they didn't.
Damn it... Sometimes I find the European league a little harder to win.

[BitMaxz]

Unfortunately, this won't happen.

This part of the terms basically says it's up to the user to comply. Since every country has its own gaming regulator and licensing body. Each of them keeps their own list of approved casinos, and only those licensed operators should be legally accessible

You are responsible for being compliant to such restrictions and / or bans. It is up to you to ensure that you act in accordance with the laws of your home country or the country where You currently reside.

Betpanda seems allow people to gamble who living on prohibited countries but needs to use VPN.

According to them:

you acknowledge and agree that the gaming services provided are authorized under the jurisdiction of Costa Rica, and not under any domestic licensing regime.

So geoblocking is unnecessary because users should be responsible for their own local jurisdictions.

[Ultegra134]

With VPN, you hide your true IP address and it is not important that you configure the VPN to other countries or your country. If a casino is VPN friendly, they will not trigger KYC just because you switch your IP addresses from one nation to other nations with VPN. They know that you are using VPN for accessing their casino, but it's enough and they don't see it as a user's risky activity.

If there is a restricted area list, a user must register at least with country of residence, in order to register an account and use the casino. If KYC is not mandatory for registration, later I don't get reason why VPN can trigger KYC requirement by the casino. Only if you win big, your account will be under investigation and it can be time for dig deeper in your IP address and identity.

The VPN won't trigger KYC, but KYC is a process you may be asked at any time as it's mandatory in most online casinos, including BetPanda. I was referring to the VPN in case you were accessing from a restricted country and you were asked to submit KYC for whatever reason. Fortunately, in recent posts the user @BitMaxz mentioned that BetPanda doesn't restrict users from betting from prohibited countries, but the VPN is required for obvious reasons (you won't be able to access the casino otherwise). Thus, at least for BetPanda, there's no issue neither in KYC nor for betting from prohibited regions.

[khaled0111]

Betpanda should have added the geo-blocking system since they have some exceptions.

I didn’t quite get your point. Can you play on MetaWin? If you can, then why didn’t they geo-block you? As far as I cas see, they have the same terms you aree complaining about on BetPanda! "It’s your own responsibilty to check if gambling is prohibited in you jurisdiction".
As I said in one of my previous replies: if online gambling is illegal in your country, then better avoid it.
Whether the casino is licensed or not doesn’t matter much in this case.

[PX-Z]

Betpanda should have added the geo-blocking system since they have some exceptions.

... As far as I cas see, they have the same terms you aree complaining about on BetPanda! "It’s your own responsibilty to check if gambling is prohibited in you jurisdiction".
...

Yes, it's stated in the terms and everyone is advised to read them before signing up. Geo-blocking doesn't make much sense anyway since VPNs can bypass it on Betpanda (unless they specifically block VPNs). Only a few casinos actually use strict geo-blocking, and most terms related to this are pretty similar across casinos.

[Mahdirakib]

I didn’t quite get your point. Can you play on MetaWin? If you can, then why didn’t they geo-block you? As far as I cas see, they have the same terms you aree complaining about on BetPanda! "It’s your own responsibilty to check if gambling is prohibited in you jurisdiction".

This clause is mentioned in many casino terms. But casinos actually take the action according to the mentioned countries which are in the restricted jurisdiction list. Betpanda has added many countries to the restricted jurisdiction list which are considered as a gray area for online gambling. I would like to highlight the restricted countries list from Betpanda, Stake and MetaWin here so that you understand my point.

As per our crypto casino terms and conditions People living or having a permanent or temporary residence in these countries are not entitled to register the player's account on Betpanda.io, or the use of service Betpanda.io: Angola, Bangladesh, Benin, Bhutan, Botswana, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cabo Verde, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Republic of the Congo, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Eswatini, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kyrgyzstan, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Mali, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Rwanda, São Tomé and Príncipe, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Togo, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uganda, Uzbekistan, Zambia, Zimbabwe.Costa Rica, Cuba, Cyprus, Iran, North Korea, Syria, United States, Venezuela, or any countries subject to:

United States sanction or watch lists.
Russian Federation sanction or watch lists.
European Union sanction or watch lists.
Other global sanctions or watch lists.

14.3 Persons located in or reside in Afghanistan, Argentina, Austria, Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Cayman Islands, Colombia, Côte d'Ivoire, Cuba, Curaçao, Czech Republic, Cyprus, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Italy, Liberia, Libya, Lithuania, Malta, Netherlands, North Korea, Ontario, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Serbia, Slovakia, South Africa, South Sudan, Spain, Sudan, Syria, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, United States, Zimbabwe (the "Prohibited Jurisdictions") are not permitted make use of the Service.

MetaWin will not permit Casino Games, games involving wagering to be supplied to any entity that operates in any of the below jurisdictions.

Australia, Austria, Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, Comoros, France, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, United Kingdom, USA, all FATF Blacklisted countries, and/or any other jurisdictions deemed prohibited by the Anjouan Offshore Financial Authority.

I want to say it again that I'm not from a restricted country according to the terms of 99% online casinos. Shouldn't Betpanda add the geo-blocking system while their terms have exceptions (big list of restricted countries) like this? BTW, I'm surprised to see that some valuable forum members (who are promoting Betpanda) are trying to prove me wrong here instead of showing a neutral view.

[notocactus]

This clause is mentioned in many casino terms. But casinos actually take the action according to the mentioned countries which are in the restricted jurisdiction list. Betpanda has added many countries to the restricted jurisdiction list which are considered as a gray area for online gambling. I would like to highlight the restricted countries list from Betpanda, Stake and MetaWin here so that you understand my point.

I want to say it again that I'm not from a restricted country according to the terms of 99% online casinos. Shouldn't Betpanda add the geo-blocking system while their terms have exceptions (big list of restricted countries) like this? BTW, I'm surprised to see that some valuable forum members (who are promoting Betpanda) are trying to prove me wrong here instead of showing a neutral view.

It does not mean anything when you compare the restricted list of Betpanda with other casinos' lists. I know what you want to prove here but when you use a casino, let's obey to their ToS including the restricted list as you only can complain about what's wrong with their action against your account according to their ToS.

I only don't know whether Betpanda changed their ToS (updating it) recently without informing their users about that. If their restricted list has been it is what it is for a long time and was not updated anything recently, you have no valid point for complaining.

Please read this post rightly as I have nothing against you.

[Mahdirakib]

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I have stopped playing at Betpanda when I noticed that my country is on the restricted jurisdiction list in their terms. Most probably they haven't updated the terms recently. The list of restricted countries was same when they came to this forum. It was obviously my mistake as I hadn't read their terms during registration. And I haven't faced any issues at Betpanda, my experience was smooth there with deposits and withdrawals.

But I'm concerned about the big list of the restricted jurisdictions of Betpanda. Because they aren't showing any warning to the users about this restrictions.

[dimonstration]

With VPN, you hide your true IP address and it is not important that you configure the VPN to other countries or your country. If a casino is VPN friendly, they will not trigger KYC just because you switch your IP addresses from one nation to other nations with VPN. They know that you are using VPN for accessing their casino, but it's enough and they don't see it as a user's risky activity.

If there is a restricted area list, a user must register at least with country of residence, in order to register an account and use the casino. If KYC is not mandatory for registration, later I don't get reason why VPN can trigger KYC requirement by the casino. Only if you win big, your account will be under investigation and it can be time for dig deeper in your IP address and identity.

The VPN won't trigger KYC, but KYC is a process you may be asked at any time as it's mandatory in most online casinos, including BetPanda. I was referring to the VPN in case you were accessing from a restricted country and you were asked to submit KYC for whatever reason. Fortunately, in recent posts the user @BitMaxz mentioned that BetPanda doesn't restrict users from betting from prohibited countries, but the VPN is required for obvious reasons (you won't be able to access the casino otherwise). Thus, at least for BetPanda, there's no issue neither in KYC nor for betting from prohibited regions.

Correct, VPN is just a tool for privacy which casino considers and value when user use it to access their casino. The responsibility on checking whether they are allowed to play on the casino is on the player side.

Suspicious or illegal gambling activities within the casino perimeter are the one the commonly trigger the KYC because that’s the only it’s needed to get details of their customers for further verification.

Betpanda is one of the casino that value privacy which VPN is openly accepted.

[Ultegra134]

Correct, VPN is just a tool for privacy which casino considers and value when user use it to access their casino. The responsibility on checking whether they are allowed to play on the casino is on the player side.

Suspicious or illegal gambling activities within the casino perimeter are the one the commonly trigger the KYC because that’s the only it’s needed to get details of their customers for further verification.

Betpanda is one of the casino that value privacy which VPN is openly accepted.

It's one of the reasons I chose BetPanda, except from the signature campaign part. There's been a crackdown of cryptocurrency casinos in Greece the past few years and can no longer be accessed without a VPN, or at least, a private DNS such as Cloudflare. On BetPanda, I'm safe that me using any of the two isn't an issue, something which other casinos do not allow. KYC may be triggered for a variety of reasons, I don't believe it's only if you raise suspicions, but a combination of "behaviours" that may have you submit your information.

[BABY SHOES]

It's one of the reasons I chose BetPanda, except from the signature campaign part. There's been a crackdown of cryptocurrency casinos in Greece the past few years and can no longer be accessed without a VPN, or at least, a private DNS such as Cloudflare. On BetPanda, I'm safe that me using any of the two isn't an issue, something which other casinos do not allow. KYC may be triggered for a variety of reasons, I don't believe it's only if you raise suspicions, but a combination of "behaviours" that may have you submit your information.

Similar to my country (Indonesia), most crypto casino sites are blocked and cannot be accessed except with a VPN... but the solution now is to change the Cloudflare DNS so that the casino can be accessed again using Cloudflare DNS. We have never experienced any problems, especially since KYC is never requested.

[Wiwo]

Correct, VPN is just a tool for privacy which casino considers and value when user use it to access their casino. The responsibility on checking whether they are allowed to play on the casino is on the player side.

Suspicious or illegal gambling activities within the casino perimeter are the one the commonly trigger the KYC because that’s the only it’s needed to get details of their customers for further verification.

Betpanda is one of the casino that value privacy which VPN is openly accepted.

It's one of the reasons I chose BetPanda, except from the signature campaign part. There's been a crackdown of cryptocurrency casinos in Greece the past few years and can no longer be accessed without a VPN, or at least, a private DNS such as Cloudflare. On BetPanda, I'm safe that me using any of the two isn't an issue, something which other casinos do not allow. KYC may be triggered for a variety of reasons, I don't believe it's only if you raise suspicions, but a combination of "behaviours" that may have you submit your information.

I agree that KYC os not only triggered when a gambler involved in a suspicious or illegal dealings on the casino, we can get kyc demands from a casino even doing our legit normal activities such as placing a withdrawal demand that is above the minimal none kyc account amounts.

So kyc can be triggered for both illegal and legal reasons some times, the site have the right and reserved when such right are enforced.

[Zwei]

But I'm concerned about the big list of the restricted jurisdictions of Betpanda. Because they aren't showing any warning to the users about this restrictions.

i have to agree with @Mahdirakib here, if a casino doesn't allow players from certain jurisdictions but also doesn't ask for that info on signup to check, the least they should do is geo block them.

i mean, from my perspective, it almost looks like they are doing it on purpose to make more money.
if someone like @Mahdirakib (who does know his way around casinos) could make this mistake, other gamblers would do too, and if they lose, it's tough luck, but if they win big, betpanda (or any other casino that has no geo blocking) can just point to the terms, say you are from a restricted jurisdiction and were not allowed to play in the first place, shift all the blame to them, void their wins (refund their deposit if they feel like it), then suspend their accounts.

and from my limited test with a VPN (Costa Rica, Cyprus, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, USA), only the US is geo blocked.

[Smartvirus]

I agree that KYC os not only triggered when a gambler involved in a suspicious or illegal dealings on the casino, we can get kyc demands from a casino even doing our legit normal activities such as placing a withdrawal demand that is above the minimal none kyc account amounts.

So kyc can be triggered for both illegal and legal reasons some times, the site have the right and reserved when such right are enforced.

Unusual behavior can come under many activities such as,

Attempting to withdraw above limits like you’ve mentioned,
Attempting to withdraw above a range for which, your account has been known to circumvent,
The types of bet you play, as per what market you patronize,
The amounts you deposit and the type of net you gambled it on, the odds,
Attempting to withdraw to a strange address after being consistent on an address,
The device you are lodged in from and activities about your lodging in…

There is a host of them that could result in a flag and you’ll be required to do a KYC.

[ryzaadit]

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Yesh, that's how should be.

Anyway, I reporting these to live-chats and hopefully they're updating the GEO BLOCK to evey list country are restricted by Betpanda. These should be easy stuff since they already have the GEO.

[khaled0111]

So kyc can be triggered for both illegal and legal reasons some times, the site have the right and reserved when such right are enforced.

To put it simply, if a casino (or any other service provider) states in their ToS that they reserve the right to request identity verification, then you ought to know that you may be asked to do so at any time and should be prepared for that. Most casinos conduct random checks and cross-checks on their customers and that’s why you may be asked to complete KYC even if you haven’t done anything wrong.
In fact, I’ve even seen casinos claiming to be kyc-free ask their customers to verify their identity (not so common but it happened).
What really matters is that if you play at a reputable casino and do nothing against their terms then there is nothing to worry about.

[Trueal1]

Beware of this site. I requested just 104 usdt. They claim to pay instantly but it was not my case. I reached twice the live chat and they response curiously was the same in both cases. They replied instantly in a prewrite draft that it seems they do frequently; that in some rare cases they check withdrawals by security departaments. I made just 7-8 bets there. If they want to check my activity it can be done in minutes. I played mostly basket. To me seems shady at best

[hd49728]

Beware of this site. I requested just 104 usdt. They claim to pay instantly but it was not my case. I reached twice the live chat and they response curiously was the same in both cases. They replied instantly in a prewrite draft that it seems they do frequently; that in some rare cases they check withdrawals by security departaments. I made just 7-8 bets there. If they want to check my activity it can be done in minutes. I played mostly basket. To me seems shady at best

How long has it been so far with Your withdrawal case?

Even you made 7 to 8 bets, if your account had activities broke the casino ToS, they had solid reasons to investigate your account further. You can no complain about that if you broke their terms but if they told you to wait for investigation result, please aait for their answer to you about it later.

They have a representative here as well as their signature campaign manager can help by informing the casino team about your case too. For now, please wait.

You can post there
[LIST] Scam Accusation Cases Against Betting Platform on The Forum

[ryzaadit]

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Sportbets?

Potential getting flags, just some few information. If you maybe getting caught, restricted on other casino and the casino using the same provider bookmarker... they can restricted you on the other casino and flag them.

No matter the amounts.

[Mahdirakib]

i mean, from my perspective, it almost looks like they are doing it on purpose to make more money.

Yeah, they are doing it for their own benefit. I believe they have a huge amount of users from those restricted countries as the warning (geo-block) isn't available. Until now, we haven't seen anyone to complain that user accounts have been blocked and winnings are confiscated for playing from a restricted country.

and from my limited test with a VPN (Costa Rica, Cyprus, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, USA), only the US is geo blocked.

It means the big list of restricted countries is just a show off. Maybe they haven't added the geo-blocking system for those countries which are considered as gray areas, or where the online gambling laws aren't too strict yet.