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[Wakate]

lol at the end I tried and lost 200USDT in less than 5 minutes, the chances of loss were 1%. Very suspicious at the first try...

Your loss is proof that even in gambling, even with a 99% chance of winning, you can still lose if you're unlucky. This applies to all games, not just roulette - but all games as well. Many people experience this in sports betting - one example is the Liverpool vs Burnley match. So your first experience can be a lesson for anyone that there is no guarantee of winning in gambling even though the probability of your winning at that time is very high.

This applies to Sportbet too even at the last minute, the game can change which could lead to loses. Gambling is not always certain until we see the final outcome. There are so many players that have lost their bets at the last minute due to insufficient luck that could have keep the winnings for them.

Luck is very important when it comes to gambling and even though you are very skilled at your bet selections, a small mistake from the side of the bet can cause you severe loses even when you could have thought that your bets will bring you fortunes. I don't bet with emotions even though it's my favorite game or team playing, I do apply strict conscious selection before staking my bets. Although even with that, winning is not still certain!

[logfiles]

I have successfully made a good number of deposits and withdrawals from Betpanda without any issues. Now I'm curious to know why Betpanda hasn’t taken any action, even though I shouldn’t be a user according to the terms.

Please, if you are from a restricted country, I would suggest you don't play on the platform. Yes, you have successfully made some withdrawals before which is a good thing but imagine one day you undergo KYC verification check. It simply means you would fail KYC verification, which would complicate things because they already warned you and also listed the restricted country.

[Smartvirus]

I have successfully made a good number of deposits and withdrawals from Betpanda without any issues. Now I'm curious to know why Betpanda hasn’t taken any action, even though I shouldn’t be a user according to the terms.

Please, if you are for a restricted country, I would suggest you don't play on the platform. Yes, you have successfully made some withdrawal before which is a good thing but imagine one day you undergo KYC verification check. It simply means you would fail KYC verification, which would complicate things because they already warned you and also listed the restricted country.

Even terms gets updated from time to time, until it’s updated you don’t get effects from it. Coming from a restricted jurisdiction and being allowed to gamble is one thing, it doesn’t mean you don’t get to be held for it at some point, it’s slowly but surely, except the terms are updated.
Best line of action would always be, knowing the terms you might be bridging and abstain before the casino catches up to you.

[Mahdirakib]

Please, if you are from a restricted country, I would suggest you don't play on the platform. Yes, you have successfully made some withdrawals before which is a good thing but imagine one day you undergo KYC verification check. It simply means you would fail KYC verification, which would complicate things because they already warned you and also listed the restricted country.

Yeah, I have stopped playing at Betpanda since I noticed it. But it isn’t about myself only. I believe there are more users at Betpanda who are playing from a restricted jurisdiction. Most of them are unaware of this as their country isn't listed in the restricted jurisdiction at all other casinos. As a result, they didn't bother to read the terms here at Betpanda. Where the downside of Betpanda is that there is no geo-blocking system available. They have only made a list of restricted countries without showing the warning about this restriction by following the IP addresses of the users.

[Wiwo]

I have successfully made a good number of deposits and withdrawals from Betpanda without any issues. Now I'm curious to know why Betpanda hasn’t taken any action, even though I shouldn’t be a user according to the terms.

Please, if you are for a restricted country, I would suggest you don't play on the platform. Yes, you have successfully made some withdrawal before which is a good thing but imagine one day you undergo KYC verification check. It simply means you would fail KYC verification, which would complicate things because they already warned you and also listed the restricted country.

Even terms gets updated from time to time, until it’s updated you don’t get effects from it. Coming from a restricted jurisdiction and being allowed to gamble is one thing, it doesn’t mean you don’t get to be held for it at some point, it’s slowly but surely, except the terms are updated.
Best line of action would always be, knowing the terms you might be bridging and abstain before the casino catches up to you.

Why should someone from a restricted countries even make attempts to gamble on the site in the first place, i think if those gambler's actually read the terms and conditions of the casino, their should already know that the risk of losing their deposits is always there and should avoid using them entirely.

What i noticed is that some casinos allow users from restricted countries to gamble as ling as they dont violate the casino terms and abusing it, while the casino team make efforts to sort all regulatory problems that restricts their access into the region gambling market.

In all, is better safe than sorry so at the end avoiding them is the best line of action if you are restricted

[panjul07]

Please, if you are from a restricted country, I would suggest you don't play on the platform. Yes, you have successfully made some withdrawals before which is a good thing but imagine one day you undergo KYC verification check. It simply means you would fail KYC verification, which would complicate things because they already warned you and also listed the restricted country.

Yeah, I have stopped playing at Betpanda since I noticed it. But it isn’t about myself only. I believe there are more users at Betpanda who are playing from a restricted jurisdiction. Most of them are unaware of this as their country isn't listed in the restricted jurisdiction at all other casinos. As a result, they didn't bother to read the terms here at Betpanda. Where the downside of Betpanda is that there is no geo-blocking system available. They have only made a list of restricted countries without showing the warning about this restriction by following the IP addresses of the users.

The best possible thing to be done by betpanda is to inform the players who are affected with the update of the terms.
Making such an important update that affect players without notification at all is not a good practice as people may not read terms regularly.
Players may feel of being trapped if there is a change in the terms but there is no notification and no statement to the affected players.

[ryzaadit]

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Making pop-up alerts for term & condition changes could be the solution.

Stake do this a few time, at the time they're changing the term & condition. People should accepted the new term first before accessing the game, so they are agree to the new term.

If people ask, what's if don't agree with the term & having a balance in the casino ? I still should accept the term to allowed or requesting withdraw. They just can created option "NO" and if people choose this is going to straight into wallet withdraw only and ask them to withdraw under the old term & condition.

[BABY SHOES]

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Making pop-up alerts for term & condition changes could be the solution.

Perhaps pop-up notifications like this would be very helpful for people to know whether they are geographically restricted or not.

Not all casinos implement pop-up notifications like this, but it could be a solution to the confusion experienced by some users.

[Ultegra134]

Why should someone from a restricted countries even make attempts to gamble on the site in the first place, i think if those gambler's actually read the terms and conditions of the casino, their should already know that the risk of losing their deposits is always there and should avoid using them entirely.

What i noticed is that some casinos allow users from restricted countries to gamble as ling as they dont violate the casino terms and abusing it, while the casino team make efforts to sort all regulatory problems that restricts their access into the region gambling market.

In all, is better safe than sorry so at the end avoiding them is the best line of action if you are restricted

Because often these countries are restricted by a large number of casinos, while those that aren't are regulated (meaning that you may also have to pay tax and use fiat currencies etc.). This is what often drives people into using casinos that are restricted in their country, and it's something I've also done myself, with TrustDice a few years ago, if I remember correctly. I was aware that at any point, I could have my account locked and my balance lost, but I acknowledged it and had accepted this possibility.

Knowing that, I always kept a small balance, while I wasn't that active in gambling back then, it wasn't too much of a risk, the amounts I was dealing with were quite minor.

[khaled0111]

Yeah, I have stopped playing at Betpanda since I noticed it. But it isn’t about myself only. I believe there are more users at Betpanda who are playing from a restricted jurisdiction. Most of them are unaware of this as their country isn't listed in the restricted jurisdiction at all other casinos. As a result, they didn't bother to read the terms here at Betpanda. Where the downside of Betpanda is that there is no geo-blocking system available.

You did the right thing by stopping playing. However, you will find that rule at almost all licensed casinos, not just at BetPanda.
The reason they don’t automatically restrict access for users from regions where gambling is illegal is probably because they can’t keep track of all of those jurisdictions, especially that local laws change frequently.
So, it’s more of a disclaimer to protect themselves, so they won’t be held responsible if you run into trouble with your local law enforcement.
As it says, it’s your own responsibility to ensure gambling is not illegal in your country.

[Ultegra134]

You did the right thing by stopping playing. However, you will find that rule at almost all licensed casinos, not just at BetPanda.
The reason they don’t automatically restrict access for users from regions where gambling is illegal is probably because they can’t keep track of all of those jurisdictions, especially that local laws change frequently.
So, it’s more of a disclaimer to protect themselves, so they won’t be held responsible if you run into trouble with your local law enforcement.

One question, BetPanda states it in their TOS to protect themselves and against users for potential issues that may arise. However, why is BetPanda, and any other casino offering it, VPN friendly? VPN is supposed to mask your address for privacy, but ultimately, your location might be appearing from another country. What's the point then? 99% of users using a VPN have a foreign IP, isn't that indirectly allowing you to gamble from a restricted country, and allowing you to do that with a VPN? Perhaps you might face issues with KYC when and if requested, because then, you'll have to declare your country of residence, but till then, you're free to play, right?

[logfiles]

Yeah, I have stopped playing at Betpanda since I noticed it. But it isn’t about myself only. I believe there are more users at Betpanda who are playing from a restricted jurisdiction. Most of them are unaware of this as their country isn't listed in the restricted jurisdiction at all other casinos. As a result, they didn't bother to read the terms here at Betpanda. Where the downside of Betpanda is that there is no geo-blocking system available. They have only made a list of restricted countries without showing the warning about this restriction by following the IP addresses of the users.

The idea of geo-blocking is not bad. I actually hope they implement it one but also someone who just signs up on a platform without reading any terms of service can really blame the service one their account gets locked up for breach of terms of service.

For example, right before signing up, a member has to confirm that they know what the terms of service are talking about by checking the box "I agree with the Terms of service View Terms of Service"

[panjul07]

Yeah, I have stopped playing at Betpanda since I noticed it. But it isn’t about myself only. I believe there are more users at Betpanda who are playing from a restricted jurisdiction. Most of them are unaware of this as their country isn't listed in the restricted jurisdiction at all other casinos. As a result, they didn't bother to read the terms here at Betpanda. Where the downside of Betpanda is that there is no geo-blocking system available. They have only made a list of restricted countries without showing the warning about this restriction by following the IP addresses of the users.

The idea of geo-blocking is not bad. I actually hope they implement it one but also someone who just signs up on a platform without reading any terms of service can really blame the service one their account gets locked up for breach of terms of service.

For example, right before signing up, a member has to confirm that they know what the terms of service are talking about by checking the box "I agree with the Terms of service View Terms of Service"

In general case like that, of course the players should be responsible for themselves but in the case by Mahdirakib is different because the terms changed after he created an account even after he managed to make some deposits and withdrawals.
That's why he talked about geo-blocking system, if betpanda implement this system then Mahdirakib and other players will be notified after the change if their country is added to the restriction list later.
Or at least betpanda should notify these players so they wont be breaking the updated terms.

[hd49728]

One question, BetPanda states it in their TOS to protect themselves and against users for potential issues that may arise. However, why is BetPanda, and any other casino offering it, VPN friendly? VPN is supposed to mask your address for privacy, but ultimately, your location might be appearing from another country. What's the point then? 99% of users using a VPN have a foreign IP, isn't that indirectly allowing you to gamble from a restricted country, and allowing you to do that with a VPN? Perhaps you might face issues with KYC when and if requested, because then, you'll have to declare your country of residence, but till then, you're free to play, right?

With VPN, you hide your true IP address and it is not important that you configure the VPN to other countries or your country. If a casino is VPN friendly, they will not trigger KYC just because you switch your IP addresses from one nation to other nations with VPN. They know that you are using VPN for accessing their casino, but it's enough and they don't see it as a user's risky activity.

If there is a restricted area list, a user must register at least with country of residence, in order to register an account and use the casino. If KYC is not mandatory for registration, later I don't get reason why VPN can trigger KYC requirement by the casino. Only if you win big, your account will be under investigation and it can be time for dig deeper in your IP address and identity.

[stompix]

What's the point then? 99% of users using a VPN have a foreign IP, isn't that indirectly allowing you to gamble from a restricted country, and allowing you to do that with a VPN?

It allows players to play on restricted games like slots games, that's the thing.
A lot of slots are restricting players from US, EU and many jurisdictions, letting people who are not in the general restricted countries play slots that are banned in their, so you can be from France and not in the restricted countries to open an account but you won't be seeing even 10% of the slot providers. Grey area stuff.


 

[Mahdirakib]

As it says, it’s your own responsibility to ensure gambling is not illegal in your country.

I have already stated that my country isn't listed on the restricted jurisdiction in 99% casinos. I have rarely found any casinos where my country is listed as a restricted country. Betpanda doesn't have a real gambling license. Costa Rica only provides data processing licenses. Still, a lot of casinos operate with this data processing license.

I haven't found my country in the restricted jurisdiction in any Curacao or Anjouan licensed casino. That's why I didn't bother to check the terms here. Betpanda should have added the geo-blocking system since they have some exceptions.

[Dr.Osh]

I was quite surprised to see the result of the match between Bilbao vs Girona. I thought Bilbao would be easy enough to beat Girona. My confidence was finally destroyed when I saw the result of the match, a draw with a score of 1-1. Among the 3 matches I chose, the one I doubted was Sevilla vs Villarreal because both teams were quite strong.

[PX-Z]

Betpanda should have added the geo-blocking system since they have some exceptions.

Unfortunately, this won't happen.

This part of the terms basically says it's up to the user to comply. Since every country has its own gaming regulator and licensing body. Each of them keeps their own list of approved casinos, and only those licensed operators should be legally accessible

You are responsible for being compliant to such restrictions and / or bans. It is up to you to ensure that you act in accordance with the laws of your home country or the country where You currently reside.

[BABY SHOES]

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I was quite surprised to see the result of the match between Bilbao vs Girona. I thought Bilbao would be easy enough to beat Girona. My confidence was finally destroyed when I saw the result of the match, a draw with a score of 1-1. Among the 3 matches I chose, the one I doubted was Sevilla vs Villarreal because both teams were quite strong.

Your previous bet was only thwarted by Bilbao, who ended in a draw at home.

Real Madrid and Sevilla were correct.

Today I'm trying a parlay again in the Europa League matches.
Lille vs SK Brann
Aston Villa vs Bologna
Salzburg vs Porto Btts yes

I'm willing to take Aston Villa in this match even though the team has never won in the Premier League... usually Aston Villa performs much better in the Europa League.

And this time I'm getting ComboBOOST X1.05.

[Dr.Osh]

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I was quite surprised to see the result of the match between Bilbao vs Girona. I thought Bilbao would be easy enough to beat Girona. My confidence was finally destroyed when I saw the result of the match, a draw with a score of 1-1. Among the 3 matches I chose, the one I doubted was Sevilla vs Villarreal because both teams were quite strong.

Your previous bet was only thwarted by Bilbao, who ended in a draw at home.

Real Madrid and Sevilla were correct.

Today I'm trying a parlay again in the Europa League matches.
Lille vs SK Brann
Aston Villa vs Bologna
Salzburg vs Porto Btts yes

I'm willing to take Aston Villa in this match even though the team has never won in the Premier League... usually Aston Villa performs much better in the Europa League.

And this time I'm getting ComboBOOST X1.05.

Bilbao thwarted everything, and obviously my bet lost because of the draw result of Bilabao vs Girona, I don't want to bet now, and I agree with the choice for Aston Villa, even though the standings are very far below, hopefully this will be Aston Villa first win