Which is hard to learn, self control or winning long term?

[Dewi Aries]

Lack of self-control can lead us to losses in greater amounts, but is there a way that can really be used as a way to always be able to get victory in the long term? my friend, this is gambling, for the problem of control, yes, it is indeed not easy to do but there is a formula that you can follow, meaning you only need to maintain your self-discipline, while for the problem of success in achieving long-term victory, it will never be known how.
So talking about this problem, in my opinion, getting a good victory in the long term is much more difficult than controlling yourself because gambling is an activity that does not have any way that can be useful to guarantee victory.

[Orpichukwu]

2% of your bankroll on each bet is a good one if you can keep that up, but it depends on the type of game you focus on and the amount you always deposit; that 2% if you keep it up will make your stay last longer and your chance of winning increased—that's if you are betting on slot games.

Currently, for the past few months now, I have only been placing bets on sports events. I don't even have a minimum wager amount; how much I wager per bet depends on how long I plan to stay active in the casino, but one thing I focus mainly on is the control over how much of my earnings I deposit.

[panjul07]

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

No I dont, I will always keep on my plan although I'm tempted to bet more than my plan most of the time but I will always try to stay on my plan.
For me it is easier to stay on my plan because I'm not a gambler who like to increase my base bet, but I'm gambler who like to increase the payout/odds.
I'm a gambler who like to hunt big multiplier than to hunt big win with big bet amount so this is why it is easier for me to stay on my plan.
Even if I have to increase my base bet, I will not increase more than 3x of my initial basebet because I play slot and plinko most of the time so I understand the risk if I increased my base bet too much from my initial basebet. 

[AmoreJaz]

2% of your bankroll on each bet is a good one if you can keep that up, but it depends on the type of game you focus on and the amount you always deposit; that 2% if you keep it up will make your stay last longer and your chance of winning increased—that's if you are betting on slot games.

Currently, for the past few months now, I have only been placing bets on sports events. I don't even have a minimum wager amount; how much I wager per bet depends on how long I plan to stay active in the casino, but one thing I focus mainly on is the control over how much of my earnings I deposit.

One thing that I would do to keep up with what I have set to myself is totally stop or pause your game if you have already used up all your bankroll that you have allocated for that session. Whether you are on the verge of winning or not, or on the losing side, you need to be firm with your decision. Otherwise, you will extend yourself to adding more on your deposit up until you already exceeded your limits. Being strict to yourself is like one thing that you need to practice and observe once you start your gaming session.

[DaNNy001]

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

I believe this happen when you are playing on games like slots, it like a mental battle of consistency and this is why overtime you just go off your plan, this is actually done unknowingly to you and sometimes it just your mind telling on you to try out other means as you are not happy with the results you might be getting with that constant fix stake you are using or something it's the other way round as your mind would tell you to increase the stakes so you get to win the game very fast and not waste all day and time gambling.

[rodskee]

Do we have the same struggle?

Yeah, it happens sometimes, especially when I am in the mode of chasing losses. At that time it became very difficult to follow the personal plan. I have also faced the temptation of increasing it when there is a feeling that I will win big. But from experience, I have understood that discipline or self control is very important in gambling. In fact, I see it as a behaviour that all gamblers need to cultivate to enjoy gambling. Indiscipline can easily lead to regrettable actions.

having a solid plan and goal can help you make better gambling decisions moving forward it also helps if you are not impulsive impulses caused by emotions triggered by results in gambling whether it is negative or positive and emotions are normal however you should be able to leave it at that not all emotions should be made into action and in this context when you feel disappointed for losing in gambling it does not mean you should go and chase your losses if you just stick within your limits you will be fine

[Jewan420]

Self-control is the most important and difficult task in gambling. Long-term winning is not in our hands or under our control, but self-control is within our power. Even for an experienced gambler, the most difficult task is to stay in control during losses. It may be easy to stay in control during winning or profit, but a person who can control himself during losses can be called self-controlled. It would be wrong to call a person who controls during profit a self-controlled person. I have got real evidence from the incident of a friend of mine, he has a fair knowledge about gambling and shows him positive about self-control. But suddenly one day he regrets saying that he has lost the money he has allocated to gambling. In short, despite being in profit, he lost all of that money after losing a little. Later he regrets his self-control and is committed to correcting the mistake. You can seek out a mentor for self-control.

[Viscore]

Gambling outcomes are unpredictable, so you won't expect for a long-term winning, but bigger wins and smaller amount of losses can be undeniably achieved through having self-control and discipline. The problem is, majority of the gamblers fail to have self-control over greed, but that's just normal for a human being. Eventually, when you have gained more gambling experiences and being exposed to different scenarios, that's when you'll learn the natural way of gaining self-control.

[mirakal]

Both are actually hard to learn, but it becomes harder and more difficult to develop self-control when yourself alone is not willing to adopt it. Instead, you chose to chase your luck and chase your previous losses, which is a bad practice when gambling.

Reality is, for you to win long term, you need to control yourself and become a responsible gambler. It's not actually winning consistently and winning long term, but it's more on maximizing your wins and minimizing your amount of losses.

[Gozie51]

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

You are not the only one in this. I believe without this emotional challenges, the casino owners will go bankrupt because gamblers will bath them with winning streak as they will be consistent with their strategy. Most times when you lose, you want to gain what you have lost by increasing the stake then more loses with regret is the next feeling and as if lessons would be taken from there, the next day it would repeat again until you have exhausted your bankroll.

So for me I think that the most part of our challenge is emotion. We need a steady emotion for a consistent winning strategy but without that, even a consistent strategy will be doubted where there is difficult gambling decision is to be made.

[GxSTxV]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

In my opinion, this subject may totally differ from one gambler to another, but self-control is undeniably one of the biggest challenges for anyone chasing longterm success. Strategies and bankroll management are important but the emotional pull of gambling often ruin even the most disciplined plans and people (one of them was me, even with my deep knowledge and experience). I believe that the urge to chase losses or increase stakes after a big win can feel almost irresistible in many situations, losing control over any plan that might work for years.

What many people don’t or can’t realize is that the real challenge is not just sticking to percentages of your bankroll but maintaining that consistency through both the losses and wins. Emotional discipline is a skill that takes time to develop in any gambler, even then, it’s never considered a success for me.

For some, stepping back for a while and analyzing the losses, way of gambling, time spent, all of these will give him a conclusion on what to do next. Without experience and analysis, that person may fail to learn both: self control not even winning anything.

[swogerino]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

As long as you gamble keeping yourself at bay by learning great self control is the winning move here. This for a simple reason because once you learn the self control at the highest level you simply do not overdo what you already set like 2% of your balance in every stake. I know it is much more difficult to implement it rather than saying it and that is why it is far important to learn this skill, one game that I think can educate you to achieve it is Poker, as Poker is a game of patience if you want to win, you need to have patience to pass on the weak hands with weak cards and only playing when you have a very good pair of cards and also this does not guarantee that you are going to win at all times there. Winning long term is something simply impossible in gambling so don't even bother trying to achieve this.

[Tmoonz]

Do we have the same struggle?

Yeah, it happens sometimes, especially when I am in the mode of chasing losses. At that time it became very difficult to follow the personal plan. I have also faced the temptation of increasing it when there is a feeling that I will win big. But from experience, I have understood that discipline or self control is very important in gambling. In fact, I see it as a behaviour that all gamblers need to cultivate to enjoy gambling. Indiscipline can easily lead to regrettable actions.

It is very hilarious how most times we don't keep to the plans, surely if there are no roles there wouldn't be any self control and discipline which is more easier said than done, primarily gambling itself is built around emotions which we can not completely denied irrespective of our approach towards gambling. However, Sticking or working towards over coming whatever circumstances that will make us not to go against our plans will help us a lot in the journey of a good responsible gambling behaviors. When we don't have that self control we end up making decisions based on pressure and emotions.

[Kelward]

Discipline and self control is very important if you want to be a responsible gambler because the temptation to over gamble is always there. Gambling is not like a job or investment that you can put your time and money into with expectations of getting sure returns. Gambling wins is by luck therefore a gambler needs to control how he spends his money on gambling, because the probability of losing is greater than winnings. Without self control in gambling it is very easy to become addicted and that is a dangerous place to be, so I'll say that control is a basic requirement for every gambler.

[bias]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Yes, it is. It's as simple as that. No matter how good your betting strategy is for the short or long term, you can be doomed if you lose your self-control for even one minute (maybe even less than that). That's why the most successful players had, have, and will always have self-control. They are concentrated on their strategy and they never derail.

[Nrcewker]

You need to understand that winning long term isn’t in our hands. Winning completely depends on our luck, and sadly we cannot control the luck. No skill or strategy helps you to win the games. It’s just pure luck and nothing else. Now on the other hand, we can control ourselves from extreme gambling. So practically, if we see it, then definitely self-control is possible. One just needs to set gambling budgets and only gamble when there is the highest possibility of making money.

[hahay]

Self control and winning long term for me of course winning long term is very difficult, basically if you can get a long term win then of course you have become rich in gambling. Therefore, because there  not many gamblers who can get rich in gambling, then winning long term is something that is very difficult compared to self control. But indeed, it does not mean that self control is easy, because of course there will always be factors for us  to be really affected by the situation and the odds available, so it will be very possible for every bettor to increase their bets. But at least, if we have good self control then we will also have a chance to win even if only for a short win, not for the long term.

[Hispo]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

I could guarantee you pretty much all gamblers have faced the same struggles you refer to when comes to keeping discipline and keeping a budget, it is result of greed kicking in on their mind and it is specially difficult to keep ones plans when we see other people gamble and get extraordinary results when they decide to get more risks than we usually take ourselves.
I don't have a long term strategy or plan because I have assume from a long time ago casinos will ultimately win over whatever I try to pull off, so I limit myself to wager cents at the time, so I can prolong my time of amusement on the casino.

Whatever you long term plan is to get money of the casino, I cannot do anything beyond wishing you good luck and not allow greed to push you towards bad choices or gambling addiction .

[BitMaxz]

Discipline and self control is very important if you want to be a responsible gambler because the temptation to over gamble is always there. Gambling is not like a job or investment that you can put your time and money into with expectations of getting sure returns. Gambling wins is by luck therefore a gambler needs to control how he spends his money on gambling, because the probability of losing is greater than winnings. Without self control in gambling it is very easy to become addicted and that is a dangerous place to be, so I'll say that control is a basic requirement for every gambler.

It is honestly not a basic because discipline and self-control during addiction are, for me, a constant battle because they are the most difficult to maintain when you become addicted to gambling. I am sure you will face such a thing in the long-term, but if you can avoid the addiction and you are not expecting anything in return while gambling or just gambling for fun, then you might be able to avoid addiction, but the chances of doing so depend on how you control your source of funds. Perhaps having a separate bank with the restriction of your wife might help to avoid withdrawing more; it is part of discipline to overcome it and learn more about self-control until you have your own set of rules as your limit so that you can't go beyond those rules.

[qwertyup23]

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For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

We do have the same struggle.

The emergence of online gambling in the Philippines has become a core issue given that most online influencers endorse such activity. Lots of billboards being advertised by known celebrities to the point that 1 out of 5 households in the country has and is continuing to engage in online gambling. The problem with the continuous addiction is its ease of access given that every person can gamble by just searching it on the internet. Additionally, most gambling games are already tied with payment platforms which increases its accessibility further.

Personally, I had the same struggle with yours OP. For example, I would set an initial budget; and when it comes to losing, I would exceed my budget and even bet more in the process in hopes of regaining my losses. Unfortunately, this creates an endless cycle of "chasing our winnings" and we become trap in the gambling Ferris wheel.