Which is hard to learn, self control or winning long term?

[Spaceman1000$]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

That's greed creeping in, a true gambler stays loyal to his strategy, except his strategy fails him. Self control and discipline is a very essential part of a gamblers life. from your narration you will see that staying through to your strategy is the number one discipline you need, anything that makes you go outside of what you've planned gives you a different result, in most cases it can actually work out for you if for instance you increase the percentage of your staking power, but in doing that, you are also increasing the risks involved, so it's better you stay true to your 2% of your bankroll then stay on it for a long term, the result might be coming in little percentages but if accumulated for a while, you see how wonderful it is to accumulate for long period.

[ajiz138]

Do we have the same struggle?

As a gambler self control is very important and if you cannot control your gambling activities, you will not be able to control your emotions and your bankroll, because they work hand in hand. Your problem is thay maybe, you are chasing your losses or you are gambling to make profit by all means. If all thesw are in you head, there is no way that you will be able to have self control when gambling.

So this is the most important thing, maybe it can be said that self-control is the top priority in gambling, no matter how you can do good things if you know the limits because there is self-control.
If you can't control well then there are: continue to chase losses - increase bankroll more than you can - feel dissatisfied because you keep losing, then this is what often causes problems.

[kotajikikox]

You need to understand that winning long term isn’t in our hands.

I was confused too what long term winning entails as I generally do not judge my winning progress based on the years I have gambled but rather I judge my success for every match I play. But I realized OP probably meant that long term winning is just not going astray from the placed long term budget. So if you put it into perspective and see that you did not stray too far away from your planned budget for gambling then it might be a long term win.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

Mistakes are undeniable evidences of learning. Nobody is perfect with discipline, we lose it sometimes and the ability to call yourself to order and not being relaxed when you breach your discipline is very key to your growth. We get better everyday in gambling with commitment and sometimes we still see ourselves gambling irresponsibly, perfection is never reached in gambling in moderation especially if you gamble often, so we keep trying amidst the mistakes.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

The struggle is real bro. I've tried several principles, which I try very well to keep, but few times I get angry over loses and chase it, but I'm quick to call myself to order and even skip some days or a range of time as a punishment to myself for my excessiveness in gambling.

I also make gambling the last thing for the day during my gambling days in order to help curtain myself from extremism in gambling.

[Orpichukwu]

2% of your bankroll on each bet is a good one if you can keep that up, but it depends on the type of game you focus on and the amount you always deposit; that 2% if you keep it up will make your stay last longer and your chance of winning increased—that's if you are betting on slot games.

Currently, for the past few months now, I have only been placing bets on sports events. I don't even have a minimum wager amount; how much I wager per bet depends on how long I plan to stay active in the casino, but one thing I focus mainly on is the control over how much of my earnings I deposit.

One thing that I would do to keep up with what I have set to myself is totally stop or pause your game if you have already used up all your bankroll that you have allocated for that session. Whether you are on the verge of winning or not, or on the losing side, you need to be firm with your decision. Otherwise, you will extend yourself to adding more on your deposit up until you already exceeded your limits. Being strict to yourself is like one thing that you need to practice and observe once you start your gaming session.

You are very correct; where this exceeding personal limit comes in is when you are on the verge of winning and you lose the bet with your last balance. The urge to chase that win is what usually makes some people break their limit; it all starts with, "It's just this one; after this I won't have to deposit again, and after that they will find themselves funding their account over and over again until they run out of money that they could use to fund their account; that's when they will realise how deep they have gone.

[Zoomic]

You need to understand that winning long term isn’t in our hands.

I was confused too what long term winning entails as I generally do not judge my winning progress based on the years I have gambled but rather I judge my success for every match I play. But I realized OP probably meant that long term winning is just not going astray from the placed long term budget. So if you put it into perspective and see that you did not stray too far away from your planned budget for gambling then it might be a long term win.

Yea, I too do not have long term plans for gambling.  If we are going to really evaluate our long term success, we would actually realise that there are more losses than wins, which means there may likely be no gain at all in real sense. This is why every gambler needs more of self control than the desire to achieve long term success.  It is this desire to make money from gambling that makes self control seem quite impossible to achieve.  But for any gambler that would see gambling as a regular fun activity and not necessarily as an opportunity to get out of poverty, he would definitely be able to control himself effortlessly.

[rachael9385]

Do we have the same struggle?

As a gambler self control is very important and if you cannot control your gambling activities, you will not be able to control your emotions and your bankroll, because they work hand in hand. Your problem is thay maybe, you are chasing your losses or you are gambling to make profit by all means. If all thesw are in you head, there is no way that you will be able to have self control when gambling.

Absolutely right.
As a gambler if you can't gambler responsibly it means you do not have self control over you gambling activities.Amd this will definitely make you become addicted gambler in the near future. Gamblers should have self control because if they do not gamble will become a pitfall for them and it will turn to be a disaster for them also. Maybe their children will suffer for their actions. Even though you have a lot of money, you one shouldn't wager much into gamble because their are probably people that needed the money lost in the family.

[Stepstowealth]

Do we have the same struggle?

This struggle is not peculiar to just you, self-control is something most people struggle to maintain. It is only a few persons that are able to maintain their discipline all through to the end of their plan. To maintain discipline you need to always remind yourself of the need to do so because the purpose of wanting self-control can easily be forgotten. Have some examples of people in your head who became irresponsible gamblers, so you can always have an image of what not to become.

[Cantsay]

I’m kinda confused here - does one learn how to be a long term winner? Or be in the winning margin for a long time? I know that self control also plays a huge role in managing your gambling activities so if you’re unable to master self control then there’s a high chance that you won’t be able to manage your funds which in turn could lead to loses at the long run.

If you’re unable to control yourself I don’t see how you’d be able to do well in gambling so it’s safe to say self control is more difficult to learn since it makes every other things really easy for you - learning it makes funds allocation easier and also time management more efficient and all this contributes to your success in the gambling space.

[Pi-network314159]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

To me self control is harder, because self control is the pioneer of gambling and or betting addiction. Wether we get addicted to gambling or not, winning or losing all depends on on self control. If we can control our emotions then we have control over all.

Do we have the same struggle?

That is the most general problem for all gamblers and they wish to control themselves when it comes to gambling but however sometimes it's easy and sometime hard. So I will say self control is the most difficult.

[Hewlet]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

you know, self control plays a great role in responsible gambling but at the end, every gambler wants to win in the long run which directly means that the tendency of playing more games to recover looses is going to be an issue and that also, managing losses when you have to keep gambling for the long run ought to also come into play.

you cant really predict how much you can win in the long term, but taking inventory of how much you are using for your gambling at intervals can help you to at least analyze your losses and your gains and make a simple comparison that will help you know if you are losing more in the long run or winning more. consistent gambling is not a straight forward thing so also is learning how to be self controlled and disciplined.

[hedgeh0g]

I’m kinda confused here - does one learn how to be a long term winner? Or be in the winning margin for a long time? I know that self control also plays a huge role in managing your gambling activities so if you’re unable to master self control then there’s a high chance that you won’t be able to manage your funds which in turn could lead to loses at the long run.

If you’re unable to control yourself I don’t see how you’d be able to do well in gambling so it’s safe to say self control is more difficult to learn since it makes every other things really easy for you - learning it makes funds allocation easier and also time management more efficient and all this contributes to your success in the gambling space.

I completely agree with you, without self-control it is impossible to become someone who can win. It is simply a component and the most important part of professional players, for example in poker. I sometimes watch professional poker players and I noticed that they understand perfectly well when they need to get up and leave immediately, because they feel that they are no longer making decisions with their brains, but with their feelings and under the influence of a slight tilt, which can turn into a severe tilt. Ordinary players who are not professionals may not feel this and, accordingly, succumb to emotions, their self-control will collapse and they will play absolutely ugly, making many gross mistakes.

[coolcoinz]

It's literally impossible to learn to win long term. It's not something you can control. Just look at people who claim to be long time gamblers, people who played for 20 years straight. They are experienced but they also lose a lot. It's not like you're able to learn how not to lose. Everybody's got a strategy until they don't.

For instance, I hear a lot of people tell you what to do when you win, how you should have self-control and walk away, but what if you lose your first bet and then lose again? How do you walk away from a round where you had no wins at all? How do you start again after your first gambling experience was a loss. Nobody teaches that

[Cityhunter34]

Do we have the same struggle?

As a gambler self control is very important and if you cannot control your gambling activities, you will not be able to control your emotions and your bankroll, because they work hand in hand. Your problem is thay maybe, you are chasing your losses or you are gambling to make profit by all means. If all thesw are in you head, there is no way that you will be able to have self control when gambling.

Indeed, that is the truth. As a responsible gambler, self control is paramount. It's the most crucial aspect to consider before engaging in gambling, as it helps prevent frequent losses. By exercising self control you can avoid chasing losses and make informed decisions, ultimately leading to a more enjoyable and responsible gaming experience.

[Ziskinberg]

It's literally impossible to learn to win long term.

Impossible is a strong word, maybe it's just unlikely. Sports betting, as a form of gambling, does offer a chance to win in the long run, but that chance is undeniably slim. Some see it as more than just luck, a game where strategy and knowledge play a role.

I honestly think that mindset is everything. If you convince yourself it’s impossible, even when the odds aren’t entirely against you, then you’re setting yourself up to lose. Consistency and disciplined bankroll management are your real keys to success.., and self-control plays a huge part in this, because without it, winning might truly remain out of reach.

[Fortify]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

It's a bit of an unfair comparison really. We all have the ability to learn self control, however we don't all have the ability to win long term and winning odds are often outside of our control. If you are playing against other players (with the "house" taking a commission) then there will always be a winner and a loser, generally more intelligent people will win a lot more frequently than the more average intelligence people - that's just a simple reality if we're talking about games like poker, they'll be doing a lot more calculations to determine profitability and logic after every card. With enough practice a large chunk of people could become above average, but they'll lose money along the way and it can take years of practice to start dominating in this single skill based game.

[junder]

First, I think that winning in gambling cannot be obtained consistently or in the long term, because of course the house will always have a greater chance of winning and ordinary players only have a limited chance of winning and that cannot be changed anyway, and there is no sure way to win in gambling other than relying on luck.

Control is a common problem that many gamblers do not set self-control until they always lose a lot of money, this can still be learned and honed to be better in the future because I myself have experienced changes that are quite profitable for myself. So I think it is more difficult to learn a win that can last in the long term.

[JunaidAzizi]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

Self-control and long-term success are two follow-up ways in betting, and both play a significant role in the gambling world. I have experienced many times that when I go toward recovering my losses and chasing them, I lose control of myself, which triggers more and more losses. In gambling, self-control is the pathway to achieving the destination, and we know that the destination is long-term success. So, if you can't control yourself, then your greed and anger will take over, and you will never achieve your long-term success.

[Julien_Olynpic]

In fact, we are talking about discipline here. This is a very interesting question, because in my opinion many people answer it incorrectly. Because it is not about discipline or self-control. The thing is that a person who has problems with self-control does not really have a truly winning strategy in the long term. And subconsciously you understand this. A person who does not have a winning strategy or thinks that he has one, will constantly doubt his strategy. And the person will try to change his strategy in the process of the game itself. Of course, this is not a game, but constant experimentation. And most experiments always end in failure.

[Jody.Drummer]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

Someone who is addicted still has a chance to recover and no longer be addicted even though it seems difficult but I am sure there are some people who can succeed in recovering from their addiction and returning to normal life, but for everyone I think it is impossible to get long-term benefits in gambling even with those who are said to be professional in gambling I think they also cannot get long-term benefits.
The casino is the king in this case and they have the power to win, so I don't think anyone can beat the casino by being able to get long-term benefits. Maybe to get big profits it can happen at one time luck is on someone's side getting a big win or jackpot and about this there is also news or news while for someone who can get long-term benefits I have never found it, maybe it's the same as someone who earns income from gambling and that is impossible.